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I want peoples opinion in why is rosencrantz and guildenstern are important in hamlet? Why are they neccessary? (This is not for an essay. Its for a presentation )
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Why do i get the feeling members use CR to do their essays for them! o_O

I did Hamlet again this year but since my exam is now over i deliberately pushed all knowledge out in favour of the next exam text!
Personally i thought the point of them was that they weren't majorly 'neccesary'. To summarsise some uses though:
-- Comedy (farce) since people can't identify between them.
-- Practical purpose is to take Hamlet to England. (death)
-- To help the audience understand Hamlet's 'madness' more since he uses them to use his 'madness with method' on regularly.
-- To die. A strange completion to the play when they are mentioned at the end.
-- Slight existensialist ideas.

However some of that might be more from the book i'm doing now: Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead. It's a play written by Tom Stoppard and focuses on his own telling of their side of the Hamlet story. I would reccomend it since it shows possible themes that could have been hinted at in Hamlet and it's actually funny ^-^
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Do it your self you lazy bum
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Huh. I feel generous so I will throw in some snippets from an essay I did (you'd better make a donation to CR as thanks).

- their conversations help us to see the overall aspect of Hamlet by recalling salad days when they were good friends with Hamlet.
- they were used to illustrate Hamlet's decision making and force of actions, e.g. having his old friends killed
- they are examples of how easily corruptible people in the court can be, e.g. spying on their old friend Hamlet and to explain why Hamlet feels isolated
- Their actions and dialogue are also used as a sketchy exploration of loyalty, friendship and ambition.

All in all -- while they are generally seen as a comedy act, they are used to provide insights into Hamlet's personality, past and lifestyle.
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Boo!!! I want people to do my homework!
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*cough* cliffnotes *cough*
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rosencrantz and guildenstern <-- HAHAHA! i got a question about them wrong in a test i had like 2 months ago x3 but now i know!

They arent really important... they are like... Hamlets "friends" but they kinda betray him and are like spying on him because Claudius orders them to They die because Hamlet reads a letter that orders his execution and changes it and they kill those two instead. Smart
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Posted 4/16/07

s_j_b wrote:

Why do i get the feeling members use CR to do their essays for them! o_O

I did Hamlet again this year but since my exam is now over i deliberately pushed all knowledge out in favour of the next exam text!
Personally i thought the point of them was that they weren't majorly 'neccesary'. To summarsise some uses though:
-- Comedy (farce) since people can't identify between them.
-- Practical purpose is to take Hamlet to England. (death)
-- To help the audience understand Hamlet's 'madness' more since he uses them to use his 'madness with method' on regularly.
-- To die. A strange completion to the play when they are mentioned at the end.
-- Slight existensialist ideas.

However some of that might be more from the book i'm doing now: Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead. It's a play written by Tom Stoppard and focuses on his own telling of their side of the Hamlet story. I would reccomend it since it shows possible themes that could have been hinted at in Hamlet and it's actually funny ^-^


That play is classic. I just revisited those two on YouTube recently (just clips offered). The two characters of the play reflect very well with the spinoff play centering around those two. Like what you said, it's quite an effective way of portraying their significance more than what one could get by just reading Hamlet because their motiffs and themes are almost easy to miss.
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R&G also act as foil characters to Horatio, sine he is in fact the only person who is loyal to Hamlet and therefore the only one he can trust with the secret that he's only acting crazy.
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^ That's a good point. Crap. I've already handed in my essay.

^crying in a corner^
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thanks alot guys/girls. nething else
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Posted 4/16/07
This probably should have been posted in that Help Thread (http://www.crunchyroll.com/showforumtopic?id=1291).

But since you got your answers, someone should lock it now.
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^ D= let me study....stop reporting stuff....jk thanks

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