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U.S. Copyright Law That Allows Equipment Seizures Signed
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Posted 10/14/08 , edited 10/14/08
On Monday, United States President George W. Bush signed into law the Prioritizing Resources and Organization for Intellectual Property (PRO IP) Act, which will allow authorities to seize property in civil copyright cases and will create an "Intellectual Property Enforcement Coordinator" position to oversee the government's efforts in copyright enforcement.

An earlier version of the bill, then known as the Enforcement of Intellectual Property Rights Act, had included a provision which would have allowed the Justice Department to bring civil lawsuits against intellectual property infringers on behalf of content owners. A second provision would have counted individual songs on an album as separate works if they were created by different artists, and thus would have dramatically increased the penalties an infringer would face. Both of these provisions were removed before the bill reached the president.

Certain provisions did survive which would allow for seizure of "property used, or intended to be used, in any manner or part to commit or facilitate" copyright or trademark infringement. Broadly interpreted, these provisions could apply to computers used for file-sharing video and audio content. The final version of the bill had passed the Senate on September 26 by unanimous consent and had passed the House of Representatives on September 28 by a 381 to 41 margin.

In a separate development last week, Canada's Conservative Party's election platform promises to re-introduce copyright-reform legislation that would increase the fines for unauthorized downloads of copyrighted materials. The party's proposed legislation would also outlaw attempts to circumvent digital rights management schemes, just as America's Digital Millennium Copyright Act has made most forms of circumvention illegal. Conservative Party's earlier attempt to introduce copyright legislation met heavy resistance and was quietly dropped earlier this year.

-taken from animenewsnetwork.


So what do you guys think? I don't think this one's a duplicate if it is. The one before was "a bill" this one is "a law"

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-Although it says here "USA" it also affects other foreign countries. e.g. Japan.
-I don't know if it will affect the fansub as a whole.. and the DLing of Japanese anime songs.

I haven't read the whole bill coz it's freaking long 63 pages. give me some time though and I "might" explain it further.
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It's going to do more harm than good.
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Posted 10/14/08
hmmmmmmmm... not many people will be left with computers.
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Posted 10/14/08
Hold up!! Can you be more simple with this info? I dnt really care for Politics. But if whatever DumbF*** Pres. Bush did will affect us in the way we watch Anime, i want to know.
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I don't really understand, but I have a question, apparently I am going to the US, Florida on Jan with my friend, and my Zune (MP3 player and video player) and Laptop are filled with downloaded stuff? are they gonna take them away or something? cause in London, they didn't do anything!
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I'll try to explain it again after i read the whole law.

But as for now (without reading the whole law)

it says that.. Downloading or Uploading Copyright Materials.. (e.g. songs, movies, softwares, games yes PSP games) will be prosecuted under civil law. Not only the distributor (uploaders or the one who uploads those songs, videos etc) but also the downloader (us as in "we") as well. I don't know about the fine or the punishment yet.

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@taei.. I'm not to sure about those. But there was this some random guy who said that If there are songs already in your mp3s you wont get sued. but THEN there was this another guy who said that you will be.



for some reasons i can't use the quote mark >_>

and if someone out there who can enlighten us what this law is all about. please feel free to do so.. I'm not a jackass who knows everything. Sorry for my lack of knowledge
Posted 10/14/08 , edited 10/14/08
if your dumb enough to get caught cause your ALWAYS DLing that's you, but i see if said DLer was a fan subber then now were talkin about them digging into our anime cause his computer was taken, which is what i don't like about that..... honestly though if what i want to know if they inspect said persons computer and it linked to other people who also sub then what? learn japanese(which I been pickin up here and there)? actually BUY anime instead of watchin it free? i don't mind the latter, it's just for the working folk i rather use my money to pay bills then BUY an anime dvd.
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omnigear1975 wrote:

if your dumb enough to get caught cause your ALWAYS DLing that's you, but i see if said DLer was a fan subber then now were talkin about them digging into our anime cause his computer was taken, which is what i don't like about that..... honestly though if what i want to know if they inspect said persons computer and it linked to other people who also sub then what?


Most laws aren't made for a specific task, they are made to give lawmakers (and plaintiffs in this case) more ability to prosecute over a certain issue. In this case if you are under suspect of distributing copyrighted material they can seize any and all property used to distribute it. It doesn't matter if you downloaded or uploaded 1 song or 1000 everyone is equal under this law. Furthermore, if while in the process of searching your computer for the said copyrighted material they should find more than what they had originally expected then you can be tried for that as well.
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Posted 10/14/08
It may take a while for us to understand futher this LAW. It may hurt us who enjoying free DL service on the net. Coz it may be limited or even banned.
Posted 10/14/08

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omnigear1975 wrote:

if your dumb enough to get caught cause your ALWAYS DLing that's you, but i see if said DLer was a fan subber then now were talkin about them digging into our anime cause his computer was taken, which is what i don't like about that..... honestly though if what i want to know if they inspect said persons computer and it linked to other people who also sub then what?


Most laws aren't made for a specific task, they are made to give lawmakers (and plaintiffs in this case) more ability to prosecute over a certain issue. In this case if you are under suspect of distributing copyrighted material they can seize any and all property used to distribute it. It doesn't matter if you downloaded or uploaded 1 song or 1000 everyone is equal under this law. Furthermore, if while in the process of searching your computer for the said copyrighted material they should find more than what they had originally expected then you can be tried for that as well.


then quite honestly the only safe people are people without computers. i'm pretty sure almost everyone is going to get penalized if it's for 1-1000 songs as an example. if they were smart and searched for example fan subbers, if say 3 out of 100 were searched and became under suspect for either uploading material or using bootleg programs to create our subs, what i want to know if they would start focusing on them and our anime, like i said b4 i dont mind learning japanese or buying a dvd, anime for me is just a way i waste unused time outside of gaming.
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I doubt that this law will have all too much of an effect on the average person. The U.S. government is not going to spend extra money to hunt down people who are illegally downloading things. Rather, this will probably be another step of punishment for those who are caught, making it easier for the Police to stop large cases of illegal downloading they find. It is much easier for them to work when they have an actual law behind them as opposed to a bill. However, unless actually caught in the act of downloading illegally, I don’t see the police confiscating the average person's computer.



As for larger groups and companies who are allowing people to download illegally....well they will probably be much easier for the government to stop. Having not read the law however, this is mere speculation on my part.
Posted 10/14/08
anyway this sucks! to sum up my feelings about this ;p.
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Posted 10/14/08
It does suck, but most people who even uses computer gets thing off internet. So if this law was actually strictly enforced, i bet a ton of people will lose their computers..
Posted 10/14/08
another attempt at controlling the population, annoying but it wont stop people from downloading. The very idea is ridiculous
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Posted 10/14/08
people who download at public places can't be traced, lol
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