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Mac's Rock!!
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I just got virtual PC for my mac. THERE SHALL BE NO END TO THE HORROR!
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PC's are far far more compatible with.. everything


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Posted 4/17/07
well since Im a graphic designer I use those adobe/macromedia suites...

and im telling, I see a huge difference in the way mac renders compared to pc.

pc to me is still more dominant in my life, but im looking to get a G5 for myself soon.

every graphic designer should get one.
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thefinalword: cool your a graphic designer. i'm a designer in training actually to be exact i'm a student studying BA hons graphics & Illus. got a long way to go though. and yeah macs are definitely the best for designers, there smooth, fast, quality and reliable.
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n0odle wrote:

I got a mac too....hanging by a chain in the backyard. When I get stressed I take my bat there and you know.

If it works send that bitch to me xD If you don't want it i'll take it and turn it into something useful.


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People switching to gay macs? What has the world come to?

Trusted computing(sp?), Bloated software, and insecurity. I could find plenty wrong with your Windows box, but the truth is that we learn to tolerate everyone's preference.

I'm a poweruser and like Macs, their not "dumbed down" As much as they've simplified the "point, click, drag" environment. I don't see how you consider Windows any less "dumbed down" o.O considering it follows the exact same philosophy of "Do everything for the user." While Windows is still trying to phase out DOS at-least Apple is trying to improve the Terminal and keep the BSD part alive and well for those who like to do some terminal commands like SSH. Seems like all the Windows hacks have been relegated to slinking around the registry. If you REALLY want a computer that isn't of this philosophy you should check out something like Slackware.

I hear Macs are also Excellent coding machines. After some classes I hope to prove that myself.


gopherthegold wrote:

I just got virtual PC for my mac. THERE SHALL BE NO END TO THE HORROR!

If I remember correctly Virtual PC for Mac sucks. O.o


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PC's are far far more compatible with.. everything


Exactly.

I'd like to you explain "Compatible"
If your talking about how you can't build and upgrade your own Mac (only true with processor and motherboard, RAM and HDD, and Airport card are upgradable) then you don't realize that while its a curse, its also a partial blessing. Because Apple only uses certain components the software can be better optimized for the hardware. In the same way a game console works. Because of this Macs generally have a longer life-span then their Windows companions.

While the first is partially valid the other meaning makes me chuckle. If your talking about things like peripherals then I'd say Mac has better "out of the box" support as I learned with my digital Camera. I had to install the driver for Windows as opposed to plugging in and uploading to iPhoto. Supposedly Apple is also working on intergrating an opensource driver for older printers too. No citation for it though.

True, there are more drivers available for Windows, but as for them not being compatible with outside electronics is bull. So far my peripherals experience has been better on a Mac then on Windows.


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well since Im a graphic designer I use those adobe/macromedia suites...

and im telling, I see a huge difference in the way mac renders compared to pc.

pc to me is still more dominant in my life, but im looking to get a G5 for myself soon.

every graphic designer should get one.

A lot of the rendering differences has to do with the differences between OpenGL and DirectX. Wish I still have the link to a side-by-side comparison...

Thankfully though PhotoShop CS3 is still going to release with a Universal Binary, so that will ease things up for the Intel Mac users.

Has anyone cited the "Lack of games" yet?
Just remember thats more a political problem then a hardware problem.

I like PCs and Macs. PCs definitely have a better file manager (Damn you finder for having no "up arrow" button!) and the uninstall feature in Windows is definitely more comprehensive. I just don't like where PCs are heading.

Would like to continue, but class time ^^;
Posted 4/17/07
The bottom line when considering what kind of computer to get, is what do you want to do with it .

If you want to do everything , Game , network , manage your finances , write reports and so on , the best choice is a Pc .

If you are looking for a specific purpose , say graphic or audio work , then a Mac is what you want to go with .

If you have a lot of time to put in, and want to do programming, run a server , and anything more technical, then Linux is your box.

Windows , will do anything you want it to , but tends to crash , and isnt the best for certain tasks .

Mac does what it does and does it well , but doesnt do anything else.

Linux , does anything you want it to , but you have to spend time to learn how to do it , and sometimes have to get pretty creative to get it done.
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i use a mac in school
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Yes, Virtual PC can't game for sh**, but I have access to all the codecs, cracks, apps, and file types that I've been without for so long. I just increased my multimedia capabilities even more. Yes, Intel based macs can use boot camp, but not everyone can afford one. Besides, my current mac is still awesome, and I refuse to be a consumer whore and own two computers when one is still making me happy.
Posted 4/17/07
Macs are like the computers for the "noob". Macs are simple to use and its pretty safe from hackers. PC's are for the "pros". PCs are harder to handle and their usually meant for people who hack or just really good with computers. The only downside to a PC is someone might hack your computer. The downside to Macs are they are expensive, you can't upgrade them(you have to buy a septate system to operate certain functions), there's no left click button, there huge, and if you even get one virus in your system your pretty much screwed. With PC's you can custom design them to look better and function faster. With a Mac......you can get a different color!

Mac's are for the weak!
PCs are for the pros!
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EvenGodDoesntKnow wrote:

Macs are like the computers for the "noob". Macs are simple to use and its pretty safe from hackers. PC's are for the "pros". PCs are harder to handle and their usually meant for people who hack or just really good with computers. The only downside to a PC is someone might hack your computer. The downside to Macs are they are expensive, you can't upgrade them(you have to buy a septate system to operate certain functions), there's no left click button, there huge, and if you even get one virus in your system your pretty much screwed. With PC's you can custom design them to look better and function faster. With a Mac......you can get a different color!

Mac's are for the weak!
PCs are for the pros!


God damnit you didn't read my post >.<

My Sister couldn't use my Mac... But she can use a PC... define "Noob" and you'll find her. O.o Careful with how you use that word.

" PCs are harder to handle and their usually meant for people who hack or just really good with computers"
I assume you mean Windows by PC. If you were talking about an advanced Linux distro I'd agree.

But other then that.. your statement is stupid. Both Macs and Windows try their damned hardest to keep the user from configuring the system, to say Windows is for hacking is like trying to say coconuts exist to be raped. Windows and Macs are both for the "noobs"

"The downside to Macs are they are expensive"
This is true, but most of what you pay for is a much more expansive software package then you get with a Windows PC, and Macs have a longer lifespan then most PCs.

"you can't upgrade them"
Read my last post please...

"no left click button"
There is if you buy a Mighty Mouse. But! Macs force the user to user Key-combos more to get things done(which is a faster way then right click). The right-click for Macbooks is Ctrl-click. Works the same way.

"if you even get one virus in your system your pretty much screwed."
...Don't have to worry about that! Considering, There are NO viruses for Mac 10.4 Tiger

but that doesn't mean that there are no security apps ready to find problems. Macscan and ClamXAV are two scanners that are maintained...

"there huge"
My Macbook is quite petite thank you very much.

"you can custom design them to look better and function faster"
And there goes your "cheaper PC" budget down the shitter! Custom design is EXPENSIVE. Anyways as a commercially purchased option they are pretty well designed, very clean looking.
The only way you can make them run faster is generally by chopping off features or buy expensive hardware. (Cheaper goes down the drain AGAIN)
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thats about the fourth time I've had to argue the Mac-side. I'm not a fanboy, but I hate ignorance. Leave me alone now... this isn't a Mac-bashing thread or a "Mac vs Windows" thread
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Bam! I just installed Windows Vista Ultimate like 20 minutes ago. Ownage. MS 1 - Apple 0
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Bam! I just installed Windows Vista Ultimate like 20 minutes ago. Ownage. MS 1 - Apple 0


How's it working?

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n0odle wrote:

Bam! I just installed Windows Vista Ultimate like 20 minutes ago. Ownage. MS 1 - Apple 0


How's it working?



Still checking out the features. It seems that people that were bashing Vista for being a memory hog has a crappy computer. It don't hog memory at all, but it dose take more than XP. Aero is nice. And I have yet to find a software that I use that is not compatible with Vista.
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The problem with Vista's memory is two fold, one isn't a problem though.

A: It requires about 2GBs to run as smoothly as XP did with 1GB. 2GB is expensive. @.@ It'll come down soon though.

B: Most people lament at how when they have 2GBs its all being used all the time. This is just because Windows likes to put it's RAM to work instead of letting it sit idle. Its actually not a bad thing.
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