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Who is most suited for Kyoko?
Posted 10/18/08
definantly ren! shou is a loser that dosen't deserve her
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Posted 10/18/08
This is actually a really difficult argument if you've read the manga (which I've been doing for almost a year now. >_> Started at the beginning, hee! X3 ) and understand the complexities of their lives and of human emotions.


However, Ren couldn't make that possible while he's still an actor.


When you include the fact that when one works in the entertainment industry it's almost impossible for them to be in a relationship without their lover being targeted (especially when it's a random 'nobody' who has caught their attention) by their obsessed fans...


Even as it makes him fall more and more in love with her, reminding him more and more of what she was like as a child and what he himself was like back then, if he wants to protect her-and of course he does!!- he will have to stay away from her...
...Though of course, that can't be helped. u.u;



The argument against Sho is that


Asshole.

I would honestly rather Kyoko be alone than with either of these two.




If she has to be with either of these complicated characters, Ren is the lesser of two evils. (... You heard me. D= I love this guy to bits and pieces-I'm not just saying that-but he really is... )

Over a ridiculously unbearable period of time, Ren and Kyoko really could be together...
but I am not at all opposed to seeing her not be in that kind of relationship with anyone for a good while.
I just hope Ren doesn't get himself into some random relationship in the mean time. -_-
That would about kill me. DX
(Then again, he IS a guy and a celebrity... it'll probably happen... -_- And then he'll start to have sex with her... probably will... and the girl will hate seeing Ren and Kyoko together, so she'll try to ban him from her... and he'll try, but will see it's pointless... relationship would be over. =D )
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Posted 10/18/08
LOTS more to add...

The problem with Ren, aside from the issues I already talked about, includes the way Kyoko sees him. As her talented senior actor, he's someone she looks up to, respects, and wants to somewhat be able to compete with. More than anything, she'd love to act on his level or reach a level where he will actually praise her. She wants to BE someone in his eyes... but that's because she respects him and admires him.
She doesn't love him on a romantic level, and I have this feeling that if he were to tell her how he felt about her, it would only make things difficult for her. She wouldn't be able to actually believe him, and she'd probably say something like "haha, that's so funny, you're such a great actor that I actually BELIEVED you for a few seconds! XD Oh, Tsuruga-san, you're so mean, you shouldn't joke like that! XD"
Meanwhile, poor Ren... *sighs for his sake*
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Posted 10/18/08
hmmmmmmmm.............. i think ren~ but sometimes shou... but i think ren... yeah, it's ren
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Posted 10/19/08
Ren and Kyoko are better.. Shou dumped her in a way..
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Posted 10/19/08
DUH!!!! REN!!!!

kyoko and ren!!!! kyaaaaa~~~
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Posted 10/19/08
My decision is irrevocable! Ren for Kyouko to the bitter end!

The manga says it all, from the 2nd chapter up to now, this manga have been steadily progressing into a Kyouko and Ren love affair.There is so much feeling whenever these two are alone together. More than mentor and student, there is that undercurrent of denied feelings between them. Ren who is more experienced with relationships recognize the signs but suppresses it for both their sake. He knows the right time hasn't come. Kyouko, innocent in love and spurned by it once displays the symptoms in so many ways yet happily minimizes it as admiration. She subconsciously feels she isn't ready. These two are unwilling to taint the comfortable corner they have built around themselves.

More than 20 volumes has passed and still they skitter on the edge of speaking out. And this has made me exhausted and happy because it means I still have something to look forward to every month.

As for Shou, he is there to provide spice and conflict that is a requirement for all Shoujo manga. Someone who is connected to the lady enough to shake the gentleman into more serious thoughts and actions. He pops up here and there just enough to remind Kyouko that he is still alive. Since Kyouko discovered she had a niche in acting, she has been rather forgetful of Shou and has since made Ren the center of her thoughts.... look how time changes peoples' perspective. This is reality, no matter how painful the heartbreak, time and work helps us forget and someone even better helps us heal.


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Posted 10/19/08
i'm sorry i have to go with the majority which is Ren coz he's always the one who encourages her to work hard n he's always there for her beside, she feels safe when he's around
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zell8 wrote:

okay don't flame me but im one of the four who picked sho...

i don't particularly like or dislike sho as a reader. sure, what he did to kyouko is unforgivable, but i find that the only parts that had made my heart skip a beat (literally) were the scenes that showed kyouko's and sho's feelings for each other. sho don't come anywhere near my type of guy, be it as friends or lovers or anime or real-life, so my preference for him in this case is not personal... rather, the chemistry between kyouko n sho is so obvious(to me) that one can't help rooting for them... albeit reluctantly.

on the other hand, kyouko n ren's interactions(conversations etc) feels more awkward. they're more formal with each other because they are a senior-junior-colleague relationship, so i suppose the awkwardness is natural. however, it is a big no-no when it shows up in their supposedly more lovey moments(e.g kyouko being overly apologetic again). their progress is too slow, n i begin to wonder if they'll end up together, despite knowing very well they most probably will.

edit: love and hate, though they're at the extreme opposite ends of the spectrum, are both sentiments that require very strong feelings. you'll only get angry regarding a person if you yourself care about the person, be it positively or negatively. love and hate are actually very similar; being seperated by one fine line. although kyouko hates sho's guts now, it just goes to show the depth of her feelings for sho, such that she changes the entire course of her life for him(jumped impulsively into showbiz in order to get her revenge).

conclusion: sho over ren as kyouko's romantic partner(ofcourse, sho cannot see her as a maid anymore n must apologise n yadayada so on n so forth)



nice deduction i can see where your going with it. but if she forgives sho then i think they ruined the story whats the lesson of the story if that happens? you can be an asshole but life will treat you well

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Posted 10/19/08
Ren, of course!!!
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Posted 10/19/08
oh c'mon..it has to be ren!!
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Posted 10/19/08

zell8 wrote:

okay don't flame me but im one of the four who picked sho...

i don't particularly like or dislike sho as a reader. sure, what he did to kyouko is unforgivable, but i find that the only parts that had made my heart skip a beat (literally) were the scenes that showed kyouko's and sho's feelings for each other. sho don't come anywhere near my type of guy, be it as friends or lovers or anime or real-life, so my preference for him in this case is not personal... rather, the chemistry between kyouko n sho is so obvious(to me) that one can't help rooting for them... albeit reluctantly.

on the other hand, kyouko n ren's interactions(conversations etc) feels more awkward. they're more formal with each other because they are a senior-junior-colleague relationship, so i suppose the awkwardness is natural. however, it is a big no-no when it shows up in their supposedly more lovey moments(e.g kyouko being overly apologetic again). their progress is too slow, n i begin to wonder if they'll end up together, despite knowing very well they most probably will.

edit: love and hate, though they're at the extreme opposite ends of the spectrum, are both sentiments that require very strong feelings. you'll only get angry regarding a person if you yourself care about the person, be it positively or negatively. love and hate are actually very similar; being seperated by one fine line. although kyouko hates sho's guts now, it just goes to show the depth of her feelings for sho, such that she changes the entire course of her life for him(jumped impulsively into showbiz in order to get her revenge).

conclusion: sho over ren as kyouko's romantic partner(ofcourse, sho cannot see her as a maid anymore n must apologise n yadayada so on n so forth)



That's an interesting way to see it. Well, even though it seems awkward between Kyoko and Ren, the story might develop to change it. And with Kyoko and Shou, they may very well have chemistry (I can't tell...)

I don't really mind who Kyoko ends up with. I wouldn't mind whether she didn't end up with either (or anyone at all). All I care about is whether its going to be a good ending. I have no idea what type of ending would make it a good one, but I just hope for one.
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Posted 10/19/08

Nikumo wrote:

I gotta admit Sho and her actually show more of somewhat tht lovers aura as opposed to Ren, I mean itd be awesome if she ends up with Ren; but tht girl.. is slow as syrup when it comes to "love" and "bonds". She does seem to see Ren as someone she admires and looks up to.. sadly not so much like a boyfriend. While he sees her in both povs. I mean she even quotes @ one time "Someday I want to act on the same lvl with this guy". Honestly, Kyoko has like no watsoever intentions of love anymore ever since her incident, shes got more that competitive nature now, acting on the same lvl as ren, and beating Sho [forcing him to feel defeat], see none of her emotions emit a sense of shes looking for love, and thats one aspect I kinda of think kyoko's character should definitely develop; thats the whole reason why she was put into the :Love me Section: yet she hasnt made much progress in that area, but on the bright side her actings become wow!


I think her emitting a sensethat she's looking for love is not intended. Hasn't she, in a way, hardened her heart because she has been hurt a few times (her mother and Shou).

Also, I think from this part of the manga, Kyoko has been in denial about this topic. Her re-assuring herself here sort of gives me that type of impression.
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Posted 10/19/08
Ren. although he seems as though he has some issues with his past. the dark aura thing etc.

still....Ren. he's hot.
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Posted 10/19/08 , edited 10/19/08
My guess is the manga might end in a open ended way with kyoko choosing neither of them but both still having a chance at her...

But i really could see ren and kyoko together as kyoko really find comfort when she is with ren... the stone that ren gave her as corn, kyoko treat it as something which will ward away the stalker guy (forgotten his name) and when she look at the stone, she remember the scene where ren kissed the stone and somehow blessing it in the process....
Somehow ren has become her knight in shiny armour in her heart without knowing.....
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