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Posted 10/21/08
I came across this topic while scooping around for manga. I read the manga I.S and I felt really fortunate that I have a specific gender and all my organs are according to my gender. At the same time, I realised how strong people with "disorders of sex development" (DSD) are, to be able to fit in and not give up on life even though they're considered weird by other people which I disagree.

I always knew of transexual people and never paid much attention, there were times when I had made fun of them and I feel ashamed of myself. The reason I started this topic was so that others may know more about humans and perhaps abolish all discrimination whatsoever. Each individual may be different from one another but that ought not cause any discrimination. Take this thread as a place to discuss any experiences with people with "disorders of sex development" (DSD) or anything to do with them. I wish to have whosoever read this thread realise that differences should not set people apart and everyone is equal. There is a difference between transexual people and people with DSD, don't mix them up.

I recommend reading the manga I.S which talks about the lives of people with such disorders
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I.S._(manga)

Information about Intersexuality ( The link might have a picture or two that is of a person's genitals, View it openly)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersexuality

Once again the purpose of this thread is to understand one another, not to put them in the lime light but to understand and change ourselves for the better.

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Kindly remove it.

Avoid any flaming and if you have no opinion, don't post.
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I don't know where you've been for the past few thousand years or so, but it's part of human nature to dislike people who are different. There will always be people who will discriminate against transsexual people, just as there will always be people who discriminate against every other group of people you can imagine.
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makimaki_sataandagi wrote:


I always knew of transexual people and never paid much attention,


You do know that the intersexed and transsexuals are not one in the same, right?
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Cuddlebuns wrote:

I don't know where you've been for the past few thousand years or so, but it's part of human nature to dislike people who are different. There will always be people who will discriminate against transsexual people, just as there will always be people who discriminate against every other group of people you can imagine.




Though I agree with OP, What Cuddle wrote is sadly the truth.
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Posted 10/21/08

EBKemanon wrote:


makimaki_sataandagi wrote:


I always knew of transexual people and never paid much attention,


You do know that the intersexed and transsexuals are not one in the same, right?


Yes I do, but I never knew of intersexed people.
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Actually, the manga's been made into a Japanese TV drama that goes by the same name. I consider the jp tv drama to be a quite nice watch as it explores the given subject from a societal point of view and (sadly) doesn't point out too many scientific facts (so it shouldn't hurt the lazy brains), but nonetheless, it's making the subject more graspable. One can see the sufferance and psychological conflicts intersexuals have to go through. But it also shows how the family suffers by having an IS as member of their family. It's not easy to be different from the rest, really.

Other than that, among humans there have been no recorded cases of true hermaphrodites. As for intersexuals, as far as I know, there is a 1/4500 chance that someone is born with said condition. There are also various types of intersexuals depending on their physical attributes. Some can look like guys, but on the inward they have attributes of the female gender, etc. It's quite an unexplored matter.

As for society matters, people who are different were and still are treated differently. But in some cultures those people were also glorified, thought of as godly beings, or quite on the contrary, considered as devils.
Once science made breakthroughs in medicine, the parents of IS children were talked into getting their child a surgery. The after effects of the surgeries most of them got when they were still just babies are quite overwhelming. There are horrific stories about those surgeries and the treatment such people received and how unthoughtful the parents were, or more like, how overwhelmed the parents were as they were completely ignorant of the matter and thus ended up being put into a corner by the docs. The wish that their child would grow up to be normal and happy, completely trying to forget that their child is an IS, never willing to accept their child's disorder partly due to the cruel nature of society. The inconsiderate torture that the doctors put their victims through. A lot of IS stories are quite saddening.
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Cuddlebuns wrote:

I don't know where you've been for the past few thousand years or so, but it's part of human nature to dislike people who are different. There will always be people who will discriminate against transsexual people, just as there will always be people who discriminate against every other group of people you can imagine.

However, almost all intolerance for people who are different stems from the same root. The fact that it is human nature makes it so prevalent and ubiquitous in our society, but that doesn't mean the world can't be a better place and it would be if people were more willing to identify and let go of their intolerant urges. It takes strength and effort to change, conversely the easy way out is to let those discriminatory and bigoted feelings flourish.

Also troubling is the tendency of many who resist efforts to make the world a more tolerant, accepting and loving place are so confused and uneducated in the terminology. Thus leading to a great deal of misinformation and complicating the struggle against discrimination.

For example in one thread I pointed out how chromosomal irregularities exist with regards to biological sex and development. And someone replied how we'd have a bunch of hermaphrodites running around if there were occasionally females born with Y-sex chromosomes.
Posted 9/11/11

Cuddlebuns wrote:

I don't know where you've been for the past few thousand years or so, but it's part of human nature to dislike people who are different. There will always be people who will discriminate against transsexual people, just as there will always be people who discriminate against every other group of people you can imagine.


Then we transcend beyond the immaturity of indifference to difference.
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I think one way to lower down the intolerance percentage would be to stop hiding the existence of IS, and confronting people with it on a global level..
Can we really throw a rock at someone's head for being scared, shocked, overwhelmed when suddenly being confronted with something they've never seen, met before? They don't know how to handle such situations and so their first reaction will be unwelcoming, maybe even rude seeing as the society around them isn't doing any better in handling the situation that has arisen.
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