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I own Asperger. Where my prize?
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autistic people

and people that just wont to touch u all time like WTF u hitting me when you say hi every time and people that just randomly talk to u hit u and you don't no them and when you no them they wont live you alone i let one borrow my ipad and i never got back for like to hoers amount times i had can i have back he just like blanked me out got back in the end after he got bored of playing fruit ninja
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i am a person with a autistic disorder i have Asperger and all i can say is its sucks to have been born with this could have been way worse off but my life has not been a walk in the park and i can live and deal with it better now that i am older but from my own experience if you know you're going to get a child with with a autistic disorder all i can say is consider abortion since life won't be easy for the people around them but also life will be very hard for them and from other autistic people that i have seen the most happy are the ones who are so far gone that they don't realize how different and dependent they are but this is my opinion from my own life experience and what i have seen
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Fortuna wrote:

General rule for me is no to euthanasia. Who am I to take away life? Do I know if God will heal the person? At any case, I will try my best to care for them.


i hope you mean that as a rule for your self not like all those church people that wants to force this for everyone cause if you do and i mean this for all people who are against euthanasia for all circumstances and want to force that down people's throats like religion i hope you realize how wrong you are one day when something happens to you or someone you love and have to suffer or see them suffer like that and then still say and think the same
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I have an gentic disorder, Nerurofibromatosis (NF). http://www.nfinc.org/what.shtml
Neurofibromatosis (NF) is a genetic disorder of the nervous system which causes tumors to form on the nerves anywhere in the body at any time. This progressive disorder affects all races, all ethnic groups and both sexes equally. NF is one of the most common genetic disorders in the United States (one in every 3,000 to 4,000 births).

NF1 is what I have but a less serve case than some I have known. I am thankful for at least that.
Personal belief:
For the most part 'natural selection' has come to a halt. Those that in the past would have died or not have made it in society, live to reproduce and pass on the genes. However minor my case may be it will be amplified in the next generation, even more so if it is with someone, known or unknown to them, that has the same condition. I despise the fact that I have it but believe that I somehow have added for the good to those and the world around me.
For the most part I am in pain for most of the day, tumors wrap around my nerves, twisting causing suffering. But this is a genetic disorder and by no means contagious. Some of us may look different or weird but are wonderful people. I would never wish this upon my child though. There are so many genetic faults that mine almost seems trivial compared to them. We cannot let the unknown scary us so badly. Who is to say it is not for the better? We can not say for certain that the world would be better with their absence.


I have the same disorder as well. My NF is mid-grade as it manifested with scoliosis as well as sub-dermal growths. None on the surface so far at least. In addition to the pain inherent to the disorder I also worry about children I know I would not want to have a child with the same disorder. The pain and the surgeries (spinal correction for the scoliosis). My main concern is that as an autosomal dominant disorder with a healthy partner the odds are 50% that my child will inherit. Those odds go up to 100% if my partner has the condition as well. That has long been a concern in relationships with me the fear that I cannot give my eventual wife a healthy child.
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Life is never that easy. Being with a person who is physically or mentally challenge makes your life sensible so given to have a chance having my own offspring that have a special conditions. No doubt, i will fight for him or her to give the quality life for she or he deserves it and i deserve it too for she or he is of my own flesh and blood.

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I was lucky to inherit decent DNA, but should I decide to have children with someone who seriously risks passing on a debilitating condition, I would opt for adoption instead.

Disabled individuals are as precious as any other, but it seems irresponsible and cruel to bring about a life filled with suffering when a simple test can prevent it.
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Generally I am against the idea of killing life but since I am not in that situation I wouldn't know what I would do since being in stressful situations can change how we think. Generally if you want to die that is your choice but if you are not able to show your wants (like in this case a baby) then it isn't right to kill it. If they got to the age of say 16 / 18 / 21 (depending on when you call them an adult) and they would like to be "put to sleep" it would be their choice. I would first recommend they get help from a professional to see if they could sort out their problems (medication or whatever) and then would have to respect their decision even if I might not agree with it.
I honestly couldn't say how I would act but I would like to think my thoughts of anti killing (unless the person chooses it after assessments to see if help is possible and finds out it isn't or something).
My views are my own not a church's or anyone else's. (I am an atheist btw)
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They should be killed at birth.
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"i hope you mean that as a rule for your self not like all those church people that wants to force this for everyone cause if you do and i mean this for all people who are against euthanasia for all circumstances and want to force that down people's throats like religion i hope you realize how wrong you are one day when something happens to you or someone you love and have to suffer or see them suffer like that and then still say and think the same"

Holy crap, sentence structure please! Complete thoughts and punctuation are your friends.
Giving every child the opportunity at life is NOT shoving religion down someone's throat. People today are so prissy they don't actually know what real hardship and oppression are.

I was born with a lot of genetic problems, though none of them very extreme. I have a club foot which is a deformity that has now taken away my ability to walk without pain. Because of it, I also now have moderate to severe osteo-arthritis at the age of 31.
I have moderate to severe asthma which is partially genetic and my doctors and I both struggle to keep it under control.
I had epilepsy as a child. I had what were called petite-mal seizures, now called absentee seizures where I'd just stop what I was doing for a minute or two and then return to where I left off.
Genetics have also taken away my hearing. I have a 40% hearing loss in the left ear and 80% in the right. I have to read lips to hear conversations that happen in front of me and I must have closed captions in order to watch TV.

So maybe my brain functions normally and overall I can still be fairly independent. But even with these things, my life isn't worth any less than anyone else's. My right to live isn't on the back burner because of someone else's want of convenience. There is nothing in my life that makes me think "gee, everything would have been so much better if mom just aborted me." And I seriously doubt that thought runs through ANY child who has a genetic disorder or a troubled life's brain.

So, no. Even if my child had 0 chance to live outside the womb, I would carry them until they died. Science has been wrong so many times and there have been SOOO many exceptions to the rules. I believe in giving every life the chance it deserves.
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kobatastic wrote:

"i hope you mean that as a rule for your self not like all those church people that wants to force this for everyone cause if you do and i mean this for all people who are against euthanasia for all circumstances and want to force that down people's throats like religion i hope you realize how wrong you are one day when something happens to you or someone you love and have to suffer or see them suffer like that and then still say and think the same"

Holy crap, sentence structure please! Complete thoughts and punctuation are your friends.
Giving every child the opportunity at life is NOT shoving religion down someone's throat. People today are so prissy they don't actually know what real hardship and oppression are.

I was born with a lot of genetic problems, though none of them very extreme. I have a club foot which is a deformity that has now taken away my ability to walk without pain. Because of it, I also now have moderate to severe osteo-arthritis at the age of 31.
I have moderate to severe asthma which is partially genetic and my doctors and I both struggle to keep it under control.
I had epilepsy as a child. I had what were called petite-mal seizures, now called absentee seizures where I'd just stop what I was doing for a minute or two and then return to where I left off.
Genetics have also taken away my hearing. I have a 40% hearing loss in the left ear and 80% in the right. I have to read lips to hear conversations that happen in front of me and I must have closed captions in order to watch TV.

So maybe my brain functions normally and overall I can still be fairly independent. But even with these things, my life isn't worth any less than anyone else's. My right to live isn't on the back burner because of someone else's want of convenience. There is nothing in my life that makes me think "gee, everything would have been so much better if mom just aborted me." And I seriously doubt that thought runs through ANY child who has a genetic disorder or a troubled life's brain.

So, no. Even if my child had 0 chance to live outside the womb, I would carry them until they died. Science has been wrong so many times and there have been SOOO many exceptions to the rules. I believe in giving every life the chance it deserves.


wow respect for you that with all these problems that you haven't fallen to severe depression
and still find joy in life

guess that shows that suffering is a thing of the mind
but the reason why i am so pro euthanasia is because i hate suffering and i am one of those people who wishes he hadn't been born
and i have been depressed most of the time since i was little and still get depressed a lot now but have learned to live with it
yes i have thought a lot about suicide
but i was a coward since i didn't want to die painfully
and now i have people who are deer to me and would be very sad if did die and next to that killing yourself or being killed is scary
but i guess i starting to sound like i want pity from you by now but that isn't the case

i simply don't want anyone alive that doesn't want to be alive and i hate everyone that forces those people to stay alive
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steef4000000 wrote:
wow respect for you that with all these problems that you haven't fallen to severe depression
and still find joy in life

guess that shows that suffering is a thing of the mind
but the reason why i am so pro euthanasia is because i hate suffering and i am one of those people who wishes he hadn't been born
and i have been depressed most of the time since i was little and still get depressed a lot now but have learned to live with it
yes i have thought a lot about suicide
but i was a coward since i didn't want to die painfully
and now i have people who are deer to me and would be very sad if did die and next to that killing yourself or being killed is scary
but i guess i starting to sound like i want pity from you by now but that isn't the case

i simply don't want anyone alive that doesn't want to be alive and i hate everyone that forces those people to stay alive


I can understand where you're coming from, but children can't make that decision -- especially unborn children. The decision of euthanasia is made for them and I cannot stand for that.

I'm extremely happy to hear that you have a support group now! Depression is real and I think a lot of people sweep it under the rug or just say "take some pills and feel better" and those approaches are wrong. Yes, medication does help, but it's not the sole solution. Humans are naturally social animals. I know some people will pop in and say they're happier being alone but we thrive when we're in groups and being supported by others. I think people will find that social support is a huge factor in someone's willingness to live. I think if we could take this approach and provide something more positive in suffering people's lives then they'd have happiness that they'd want to keep.

Anyway, regardless of everything, you're still very much entitled to your opinion and beliefs. =) Thought processes should come from all angles. And even if I disagree, I now have a general idea as to how the other side might look and that's a good thing.

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kobatastic wrote:


steef4000000 wrote:
wow respect for you that with all these problems that you haven't fallen to severe depression
and still find joy in life

guess that shows that suffering is a thing of the mind
but the reason why i am so pro euthanasia is because i hate suffering and i am one of those people who wishes he hadn't been born
and i have been depressed most of the time since i was little and still get depressed a lot now but have learned to live with it
yes i have thought a lot about suicide
but i was a coward since i didn't want to die painfully
and now i have people who are deer to me and would be very sad if did die and next to that killing yourself or being killed is scary
but i guess i starting to sound like i want pity from you by now but that isn't the case

i simply don't want anyone alive that doesn't want to be alive and i hate everyone that forces those people to stay alive


I can understand where you're coming from, but children can't make that decision -- especially unborn children. The decision of euthanasia is made for them and I cannot stand for that.

I'm extremely happy to hear that you have a support group now! Depression is real and I think a lot of people sweep it under the rug or just say "take some pills and feel better" and those approaches are wrong. Yes, medication does help, but it's not the sole solution. Humans are naturally social animals. I know some people will pop in and say they're happier being alone but we thrive when we're in groups and being supported by others. I think people will find that social support is a huge factor in someone's willingness to live. I think if we could take this approach and provide something more positive in suffering people's lives then they'd have happiness that they'd want to keep.

Anyway, regardless of everything, you're still very much entitled to your opinion and beliefs. =) Thought processes should come from all angles. And even if I disagree, I now have a general idea as to how the other side might look and that's a good thing.



yes its funny since in this subject you and i will never truly agree i think
but what you say about unborn children i do understand now
but its hard for me to understand cause i have always felt like this because of what i was born with
but now know there are people like you who despite are born with lots of problems can still be happy
Posted 1/6/13

karmacide wrote:

They should be killed at birth.



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