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Is hollywood racist again for making goku white?
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Posted 10/23/08
Yeah, plenty of Asian American Hollywood actors (not big name ones, but hey, I've never heard of the actor playing Goku anyway), why not use them?
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Posted 10/23/08
Come to think about it, did they even make Goku a asian? I mean, he's a alien.
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Posted 10/23/08 , edited 10/23/08

Runekn wrote:

Come to think about it, did they even make Goku a asian? I mean, he's a alien.


But he wasn't white either. He is an alien but he was like a human with a monkey tail and all of their race were black hair. Still it doesn't take away fact that he was brought up by asian culture.the clothes,symbols,food and style are all asian.
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Posted 10/23/08
This thread makes me laugh. I have a couple points.

1) Maybe, just maybe they've casted the best actor they can afford, who was willing to do it?

2) Most Asian countries are faaaaaaaaaaaaaaar more racist than the USA. If you aren't of that ethnicity, you're an outsider forever, even if you've lived there for more than one generation.

3) Not everyone who has Korean or Japanese citizenship is of Korean or Japanese descent. As an example, I'm relatively certain there are actually a fair number of people in Japan that are originally Korean. Sooooo why can't Japan/Korea/Taiwan/etc remake movies or dramas with actors of the proper ethnic group?

4) Would it be racist if Goku was black?
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Posted 10/23/08 , edited 10/24/08
Lets hope this movie doesnt suck.
DBZ deserve a good remake,special effects and kick ass fighting scenes you know what a mean^^.

And about the racist thing all countries practice this kind of discrimination its just normal.
*not reffering to the thread*
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Posted 10/23/08 , edited 10/24/08

Runekn wrote:

Come to think about it, did they even make Goku a asian? I mean, he's a alien.


haha Good point...

I think the one who made the topic is the racist.. Racism exist in many forms the way how she said that the Caucasian actor does not deserve to be goku for originally its an Asian movie is a form of racism. Whites also have the right to play in any character they want if you deprive them of it for its an Asian movie that is also racism. Another thing is threadstarter you are also libelous.. You said stealing roles that are supposed to be Asian.. You miss the point that they adapted the movie into their own(means they making their own version).. Making it their own version it doesn't necessarily mean they have to follow the sequence of an Asian movie but only to adapt the story and not the country where it came from..
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Posted 10/24/08
ugh... its not racist at all.. thats stupid.. they can choose w.e whoever they want for their own version of dbz or death note,, if ur saying that all char have to be asian just because they originated from japan then UR RACIST.

im asian myself, and i honestly dont give a sht bout goku being white.. im fine as long as the char fits the role and is good at acting. its like ur saying horror movies such as the eye, the shutter which are originated from asia are remade racist.. cosz now the people in it are white.

FYI anime chars are not real people...
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Posted 10/24/08

Lavvy wrote:

I was just about to say the above.

If this is an American version, why don't they use Asian American actors and actresses? There are plenty (watch Better Luck Tomorrow, Finishing the Game, even Harold and Kumar, etc), they are never called in because of the fact that are not considered to be "American" enough, even if they're born in America, speak perfect English, and only go back to Asia for a vacation.

Only way for this to change is when people wake up to the fact that there is more than one kind of "American" in the US. Saying that this is the American version doesn't mean anything because there are Asians in America. And the Asian American community in Los Angeles is enormous, it's just that no one considers them to be a viable casting option, because they aren't considered "American."

There was also an argument about how Hollywood movies are big in Asia, something about Spiderman being Asian to penetrate the Asian market. This only proves my point. Asia is fine with watching white people on screen being heroes, so why can't America be fine with it too?

Besides, Hollywood would be big regardless, it's Hollywood.


When i say "American" - i'm referring to your typical white/black American who are 'uneducated' about asian movies. The American version is suppose to covert these people to become fans of their product.

They're not aiming to target the fans of the orginal film, simply because the standards would be too high for them to meet - as seen in here, there's been so many complaints from fans already.

So, they're aiming to profit from these 'Americans' that aren't as educated about asian films - simply because it's an easier target. To do this, adjustments needs to be made, since they won't understand the 'culture' of asian films. Different actors are selected so that the audience can relate to the film and therefore, would watch the next remake they produce, and the company gets more income.

Yes, Asians are part of the American population, but I think they've assumed that most Asians would've already know about these asian films, and thus is not the targeted audience. However, feel free to watch it even if you're an asian. But if you're a fan who hate remakes, don't watch it...you're only increasing their ratings, which will motivate them to remake even more!
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Posted 10/24/08
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"If it's an American remake, why not use Asian Americans?"

If it's an American remake, why not use.....AMERICAN actors? Oh wait, they are.....
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Posted 10/24/08

Sutaseiu wrote:

This thread makes me laugh. I have a couple points.

1) Maybe, just maybe they've casted the best actor they can afford, who was willing to do it?

2) Most Asian countries are faaaaaaaaaaaaaaar more racist than the USA. If you aren't of that ethnicity, you're an outsider forever, even if you've lived there for more than one generation.

3) Not everyone who has Korean or Japanese citizenship is of Korean or Japanese descent. As an example, I'm relatively certain there are actually a fair number of people in Japan that are originally Korean. Sooooo why can't Japan/Korea/Taiwan/etc remake movies or dramas with actors of the proper ethnic group?

4) Would it be racist if Goku was black?



1)Maybe they should look for an random asian actor.I don't remember any asian american actor being expensive.

2) So you admit that the usa are being racist(mostly bias) and you don't have to tell me about asian being MORE racist. I'm black and had my worst experiences from them but I'm not going to use that to justify this remake.

3)I couldn't give a crap japan/korea/taiwan are all asian anyway.

4)Yes it would be racist because there is no black goku in the anime. But wouldn't have been better if piccolo was black?


Stick with the damn original story is based in some asian culture.



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Posted 10/24/08 , edited 10/24/08
I think it mostly has to do with the fact that it's an "american" remake.... just like french films have french actors and korean films have korean actors and spanish films have spanish actors...... it's the same with EVERY country....... I don't really think it matters where the story originated..... I don't think ethnicity really plays a big part in casting....... ecspecially where the target audience for something like this can only be kids........ I bet the casting person never even thought of something like casting based on ethnicity
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Posted 10/24/08
not racist .....well i hope not ........there just kinda stupid for doing that ...........BUT it is the AMERICAN VERSION.....what do you expect......
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Posted 10/24/08 , edited 10/24/08
who said that DB took place in japan?

anyway, all i'm seeing is WAH WAH WAH... Go eat a wah burger and some french cries.
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Posted 10/24/08
It amazes how there are people don't see the reality behind the american remake.It' not just about the american audience and money.Its how they want to change the orginal dragonball .Other than the dragonball z fans theren't that many people that even knows wtf dragonball is.Many will even think the original idea comes from america without knowing the truth.This isn't the first time they did this look at speed racer,deathnote ect.Most people would rather watch american movies than some low budget asian movie.I guess it's true asian will NEVER have proper main roles in america .You will always have that same typical martial art role
lmao

Anyway that's the end of story with me

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Posted 10/24/08
This is off topic, but....
What do u think about the Japanese Spiderman from the 70s.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGxde2a2_iQ

Do u think its racist that they made it in Japan with Japanese actors when the Spiderman story
originated in New York?
I don't think its racist. They're just making their version for their targeted audience
just like how Dragonball is made in America.
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