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NEWS: Law Journal Article Supports Fansubs
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WOW, that sure is sume serious talkin lol. Moral rights. Wow i dont think i understood sume of that but if its supportin ANIME FANSUBS ROCK ON DUDE!!
Posted 10/27/08

Malgilin wrote:

the fansubs is the only way for me to have good anime cause in poland anime is not that well distributed so fansubs yes!


I would argue your standard on "good anime" being of fansubs, because the quality of fansubs will never be as good as authentic licensed release. Poland, as well as the rest of eastern Europe, have their own regional licensing companies like Reanimedia and XL Media. Although the available titles are relatively few in-between, but this is just like how North American anime licensing was like back in the early stage.

It's undeniable that fansubbing helps spreading anime internationally, but it does nothing to help maturing the limited anime market, strengthening the overstressed anime industry, nor ensuring the overall lack in quality of current anime series.
Posted 10/27/08

MissCaramel wrote:

WOW, that sure is sume serious talkin lol. Moral rights. Wow i dont think i understood sume of that but if its supportin ANIME FANSUBS ROCK ON DUDE!!


Have you ever imagine just what legalizing fansubs will do to anime industry as a whole? Just because you lack the understanding in order to see the danger in a situation, it doesn't mean that the danger isn't there anymore.
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Posted 10/27/08
who cares, nobody cares about the law or anime in India... a win-win situation for me
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Posted 10/27/08
tl:dr
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First anime, then, music!
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DomFortress wrote:


MissCaramel wrote:

WOW, that sure is sume serious talkin lol. Moral rights. Wow i dont think i understood sume of that but if its supportin ANIME FANSUBS ROCK ON DUDE!!


Have you ever imagine just what legalizing fansubs will do to anime industry as a whole? Just because you lack the understanding in order to see the danger in a situation, it doesn't mean that the danger isn't there anymore.


Well, there is market shift happenning here. Some more analysis is needed to see if this strategy of Toei and Gonzo will work here in crunchyroll to see if streaming is a viable option for marketing. I am sure that you are aware of that.

I guess that crunchyroll should start having a buy the DVD option for a worldwide audience if this actually works; Anime is not as isolated anymore. Well, there would be a problem with the R1 and regional formatting. Well, the companies could use this site as launch pad. But whatever, just a thought.

A streaming site/ shop "LAWL"
Hey, I would actually buy some from here. "LAWL"


142 wrote:

First anime, then, music!


Well, it is backwards here in the U.S. It was music, then Anime.
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Posted 10/27/08
hmmm i agree with this one...
Posted 10/27/08

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Well, there is market shift happenning here. Some more analysis is needed to see if this strategy of Toei and Gonzo will work here in crunchyroll to see if streaming is a viable option for marketing. I am sure that you are aware of that.

I guess that crunchyroll should start having a buy the DVD option for a worldwide audience if this actually works; Anime is not as isolated anymore. Well, there would be a problem with the R1 and regional formatting. Well, the companies could use this site as launch pad. But whatever, just a thought.

A streaming site/ shop "LAWL"
Hey, I would actually buy some from here. "LAWL"



As for this podcast marketing strategy, there are pros and cons to it.

pros: wider audiences on an international base at a reduced cost. Anime series in general lack exposure outside its regional distribution. If an anime series made only available on Japanese television network, then legally speaking, the only way for us to watch it is via subscription to that network. Not many anime fans know this, but anime studios have to purchase time slots from TV stations in order to show their series. This is why the sponsorships from various companies, because it cost a lot for these time slots, unless the TV station commission an anime studio to produce a series for a given time slot. For a North American website like crunchyroll, anime studios like Gonzo and Sunrise, formerly known as Toei, all they had to do is purchase the bandwidth from crunchyroll at a mere fraction of the cost that would be for a TV station, and they can showcase their works to North American audiences per regional agreement.

cons:international bandwidth regulation. Users with IP addresses that are outside of the North America region may experience a limitation on these series because they aren't North American users. Although crunchyroll allows users from all nations to sign up for its services, but the licensing agreements doesn't cover those who aren't in the same region as the website's. And for crunchyroll itself, it can't advertise legitimate media releases of anime series because of its majority of illegitimate fansubs.

Anime studios earn their profits mostly from DVD sales, not from merchandises that are related with their titles. The above method might reduce their overall marketing cost, but it won't guarantee them an increase on DVD sales, so long as people only watch fansubs and not buying legitimate DVD releases when made available.
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Posted 10/27/08

DomFortress wrote:

As for this podcast marketing strategy, there are pros and cons to it.

pros: wider audiences on an international base at a reduced cost. Anime series in general lack exposure outside its regional distribution. If an anime series made only available on Japanese television network, then legally speaking, the only way for us to watch it is via subscription to that network. Not many anime fans know this, but anime studios have to purchase time slots from TV stations in order to show their series. This is why the sponsorships from various companies, because it cost a lot for these time slots, unless the TV station commission an anime studio to produce a series for a given time slot. For a North American website like crunchyroll, anime studios like Gonzo and Sunrise, formerly known as Toei, all they had to do is purchase the bandwidth from crunchyroll at a mere fraction of the cost that would be for a TV station, and they can showcase their works to North American audiences per regional agreement.

cons:international bandwidth regulation. Users with IP addresses that are outside of the North America region may experience a limitation on these series because they aren't North American users. Although crunchyroll allows users from all nations to sign up for its services, but the licensing agreements doesn't cover those who aren't in the same region as the website's. And for crunchyroll itself, it can't advertise legitimate media releases of anime series because of its majority of illegitimate fansubs.

Anime studios earn their profits mostly from DVD sales, not from merchandises that are related with their titles. The above method might reduce their overall marketing cost, but it won't guarantee them an increase on DVD sales, so long as people only watch fansubs and not buying legitimate DVD releases when made available.


Well, you seem to know about this subject more than me, so I'll ask some questions.

Considering that the SUB version was the only released as some sort of a universal format (Region ALL, I guess), doesn't that cut on the production cost?
- Add the factors of less cost promotion of crunchyroll

Doesn't this plan seem some what advantageous to the Anime companies?
If not, why so?

Notes:
- About the IP addresses. I guess people could use proxy servers if they want it that badly.
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Posted 10/27/08
They're talkin' about some serious stuff here..
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Posted 10/27/08

xenarr wrote:

They're talkin' about some serious stuff here..


Well, this forum can't just be all about favorites, best hair, etc.
Anime is serious business.
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Posted 10/27/08
so is this supporting subs and insulting dubs ?
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Posted 10/27/08 , edited 10/27/08
Supporting subs.. high five for that..
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talktalk wrote:

so is this supporting subs and insulting dubs ?


A little bit of both. I just wish I could my hands on the journal article.
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