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Posted 4/24/07

Oh wouldn't Hitler be proud. Public smoking bans are gaining more and more popularity in big cities. Which is good...if you believe taking away a person's right to light up whenever he is feeling anxious, stressed, or satisfied is coshure. I understand the hazards of smoking and second hand smoke. But a public smoking ban in parks, streets, and OUTSIDE at restaurants is just little bit excessive. Whatever happened to a person's right to choose what he/she does. The most ridiculous thing is that governments and anti-smoking groups want to ban and make cigarettes illegal, while other known killers such as let's say...i don't know MCDONALDS, and other fast food franchises get to sick there fat injected foods in to young children and everyone else.
People smoke cause they choose to smoke, people smoke because people have addictive personalities. If it wasn't people smoking, it would be people addicted to Big Mac's, chocolate, caffeine, wait...already happened...
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Posted 4/24/07
i can't agree more to this.

wow. cigarettes--i do agree is detrimental to one's health, but it shouldn't be completely banned. that's just ridiculous. surprisingly there are actually a lot of positive aspects about smoking. it can help people relax and for some it improves concentration (cognitive studies have actually shown this to be true). governments make profit from taxes on cigarettes which can fund for schools, hospitals, etc. also.. shouldn't people have the right to choose whether they smoke or not?? i'm sure they know not to smoke in a secluded room full of non-smokers.. but they should be able to do it anywhere else.
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Posted 4/24/07

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Oh wouldn't Hitler be proud. Public smoking bans are gaining more and more popularity in big cities. Which is good...if you believe taking away a person's right to light up whenever he is feeling anxious, stressed, or satisfied is coshure. I understand the hazards of smoking and second hand smoke. But a public smoking ban in parks, streets, and OUTSIDE at restaurants is just little bit excessive. Whatever happened to a person's right to choose what he/she does. The most ridiculous thing is that governments and anti-smoking groups want to ban and make cigarettes illegal, while other known killers such as let's say...i don't know MCDONALDS, and other fast food franchises get to sick there fat injected foods in to young children and everyone else.
People smoke cause they choose to smoke, people smoke because people have addictive personalities. If it wasn't people smoking, it would be people addicted to Big Mac's, chocolate, caffeine, wait...already happened...


well.... see there is this whole "cancer" thing... and second hand smoke can cause it as well.... i don't think i get fat sitting next to someone eating a big mac

i'm just pissed when i hear about bars getting smoking banned. that's just wrong. everywhere else i'm ok with... though if they ban everywhere, they need to put in more "smoking rooms" like you see in airports.

as much as america is criticized by the rest of the world for our health, i think it's interesting we're the most proactive nation when it comes to regulating smoking, though europe is getting better.
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yeah but those smoking pits in airports are overwhelming. its too much smoke, for me anyway.
Posted 4/24/07
If smoking needs to be banned from public places because its such a danger to society then why the fuck are cigarettes legal?
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If I can't smoke on the streets where the fuck can I smoke?
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Posted 4/24/07
^ are we now following this sentence-structure format??

[har har... joke]
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^ are we now following this sentence-structure format??


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Posted 4/24/07
haha. ya...cigarettes should be illegal. but the tobacco industry has been here for so long...i guess it would be hard to remove.
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Posted 4/24/07
so what happens to the freedom of choice?

isnt wars fought over that freedom? do people think that taking away this freedom is going to solve anything?

if you take away smoking, ban cars for the Co2 it produces, rubber since it doesnt degrade, plastics for the same reason.

the fact is smoking is a personal preference, it doesnt impair skills, it harms the user more than anything. its that persons choice.

and just to add, if smoking is such a bad thing, get rid of alcohol too, because alcohol causes alot of problems too...
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^ amen
Posted 4/24/07
^^ but then I would like the freedom to go to a bar where there is no smoke, to walk along a path without coughing due to car fumes, not to have landfill sites dotting the landscape

So - where do we stop?
I'd say we need to ensure that people have the freedom, but cannot encroach upon other's freedoms. - smoking kills others, it encroaches upon their freedom!!!
I would be pro smoking areas (which are separated from non-smoking areas) where smokers can go and smoke. I would like to have the chance to be somewhere without that smoke as well though.
We should ban aggressive alcoholics from drinking, but not the average person who does not encroach upon other's freedoms as a result of drinking.
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^ hm good point. side note: in chicago, smoke-free clubs/bars actually do exist.

[ i don't want to feel like a regulator here. where is stryfe604? :O) ]
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Posted 4/24/07
right behind you slowdanse, your my deputy (BTW half your cr points are mine)

^^ yeah make a good point, and i agree completely im just saying a total ban and criminalizing of tobacco is not the answer
Posted 4/24/07
In Germany unfortunately a large proportion of adults (and kids) smoke, so it's really difficult for non-smokers like me to get away from them.
Luckily stations have smoking areas, down at the ends to keep smokers away from "normal" passengers. There won't be a smoking ban in Germany any time soon either, the smoking Lobby is too strong.

Yeah, criminalisation is wrong, but freedom must work both ways.
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