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The Norse Gods is the right religion, Christianity is Dead Wrong!
Posted 11/4/08
^ lies.
Don't sugar-coat it.
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Posted 11/5/08
I guess I have strong faith. Even though there has been testimonies and evidence about other religions I still hold true to my own.
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Posted 11/5/08

g31025 wrote:

I guess I have strong faith. Even though there has been testimonies and evidence about other religions I still hold true to my own.


ever hear the saying Faith is for fools!?
(who was it that said that?)


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Posted 11/5/08

Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


g31025 wrote:

I guess I have strong faith. Even though there has been testimonies and evidence about other religions I still hold true to my own.


ever hear the saying Faith is for fools!?
(who was it that said that?)





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Posted 11/5/08

Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


g31025 wrote:

I guess I have strong faith. Even though there has been testimonies and evidence about other religions I still hold true to my own.


ever hear the saying Faith is for fools!?
(who was it that said that?)




You do know that science requires faith also, right? Even thought it's supported by evidence, there's always the possibility that there is more evidence out there that can disprove anything and everything we have learned through scientific discoveries. So no matter what you consider to be true, we're all fools because we all have faith that our beliefs are more truthful than everyone else's beliefs.
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Posted 11/5/08

Cuddlebuns wrote:


Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


g31025 wrote:

I guess I have strong faith. Even though there has been testimonies and evidence about other religions I still hold true to my own.


ever hear the saying Faith is for fools!?
(who was it that said that?)




You do know that science requires faith also, right? Even thought it's supported by evidence, there's always the possibility that there is more evidence out there that can disprove anything and everything we have learned through scientific discoveries. So no matter what you consider to be true, we're all fools because we all have faith that our beliefs are more truthful than everyone else's beliefs.

LOL... Faith is belief without evidence. Faith is believing in something even if everything points to it not being true, that is not science.
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^^^As a matter of fact it is.

There are VERY few CONCRETE TRUTHS in this world, especially in science. Almost everything else is a "educated theory".
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Darkphoenix3450 wrote:

LOL... Faith is belief without evidence. Faith is believing in something even if everything points to it not being true, that is not science.


Faith is also having the confidence that something is true ("confidence or trust in a person or thing: faith in another's ability." from dictionary.com). Of course this definition of faith isn't exactly the same as having religious faith, which is belief without evidence, but assuming that the statement "faith is for fools" is true, even believing in science makes you a fool because almost nothing (if anything) in science is concrete, and there's always the possibility that what we consider to be a scientific "truth" now can be disproven by some new discovery made 5 minutes from now. So we have faith that everything we know about science is true and that there is no evidence to disprove it.

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Posted 11/5/08

Cuddlebuns wrote:


Darkphoenix3450 wrote:

LOL... Faith is belief without evidence. Faith is believing in something even if everything points to it not being true, that is not science.


Faith is also having the confidence that something is true ("confidence or trust in a person or thing: faith in another's ability." from dictionary.com). Of course this definition of faith isn't exactly the same as having religious faith, which is belief without evidence, but assuming that the statement "faith is for fools" is true, even believing in science makes you a fool because almost nothing (if anything) in science is concrete, and there's always the possibility that what we consider to be a scientific "truth" now can be disproven by some new discovery made 5 minutes from now. So we have faith that everything we know about science is true and that there is no evidence to disprove it.



hahaha so true!

that still doesn't make me have faith in god, but it was so true!!
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Posted 11/6/08
First question you should ask yourself, why the hell are we here? You can put off the question and just live like whatever and die without knowing, or, try to dispute it. This is where philosophy starts. If you some how get to a conclusion that there must be some sort of invisible force at work, then you're one step to becoming religious.
From there you don't try to match your values with the ones out there, you study them all like you were in college. Not only must you learn the knowledge, you must apply it. Applying it is what makes you more religious.
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Posted 11/6/08

Cuddlebuns wrote:


Darkphoenix3450 wrote:

LOL... Faith is belief without evidence. Faith is believing in something even if everything points to it not being true, that is not science.


Faith is also having the confidence that something is true ("confidence or trust in a person or thing: faith in another's ability." from dictionary.com). Of course this definition of faith isn't exactly the same as having religious faith, which is belief without evidence, but assuming that the statement "faith is for fools" is true, even believing in science makes you a fool because almost nothing (if anything) in science is concrete, and there's always the possibility that what we consider to be a scientific "truth" now can be disproven by some new discovery made 5 minutes from now. So we have faith that everything we know about science is true and that there is no evidence to disprove it.



Oh not this again -__- , I'm not going to argue for those Fundamentalists who do have faith that's litterally blind faith. Physical evidence isn't the only kind of logical proof for anything. How do you suppose we come up with hypotheses for science? By using our logic thinking. When things happen differently then we thought then we learn correct. Same thing goes for religion if you do it right. We propose a situation, test it, and make conclusions. Of course there are some things in religion that can only be explained to people with abstract concept but for things like the concept of ceremonial burial, it's simple.
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Posted 11/7/08

crunchypibb wrote:


Cuddlebuns wrote:


Darkphoenix3450 wrote:

LOL... Faith is belief without evidence. Faith is believing in something even if everything points to it not being true, that is not science.


Faith is also having the confidence that something is true ("confidence or trust in a person or thing: faith in another's ability." from dictionary.com). Of course this definition of faith isn't exactly the same as having religious faith, which is belief without evidence, but assuming that the statement "faith is for fools" is true, even believing in science makes you a fool because almost nothing (if anything) in science is concrete, and there's always the possibility that what we consider to be a scientific "truth" now can be disproven by some new discovery made 5 minutes from now. So we have faith that everything we know about science is true and that there is no evidence to disprove it.



Oh not this again -__- , I'm not going to argue for those Fundamentalists who do have faith that's litterally blind faith. Physical evidence isn't the only kind of logical proof for anything. How do you suppose we come up with hypotheses for science? By using our logic thinking. When things happen differently then we thought then we learn correct. Same thing goes for religion if you do it right. We propose a situation, test it, and make conclusions. Of course there are some things in religion that can only be explained to people with abstract concept but for things like the concept of ceremonial burial, it's simple.


The only form of logical thinking that I know of is the scientific method (form a hypothesis, test it, support it with evidence, make it a plausible theory that may be disproven by new evidence later on). As far as I know, any "hypothesis" that is prevalent in religion (the Bible is the word of God, all things need a creator, etc) cannot be tested or verified by any amount of research that we do, because all deities are beyond the physical world, and science only explains the natural world. To me it seems like most religious people's "logical thinking" is make a hypothesis>affirm that it is true without testing it and ignore any evidence against it>believe it is an absolute truth that can never be changed. Of course that's fine since religion deals with things beyond our physical world, but I don't see how it's the same logic as the scientific method, since anyone can believe anything they want no matter what anyone else says, but it's still just as valid as everyone else's beliefs. If science worked like that, we'd probably all still be living in wooden huts and spear hunting buffalo.
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Posted 11/7/08 , edited 11/7/08

Cuddlebuns wrote:


crunchypibb wrote:


Cuddlebuns wrote:


Darkphoenix3450 wrote:

LOL... Faith is belief without evidence. Faith is believing in something even if everything points to it not being true, that is not science.


Faith is also having the confidence that something is true ("confidence or trust in a person or thing: faith in another's ability." from dictionary.com). Of course this definition of faith isn't exactly the same as having religious faith, which is belief without evidence, but assuming that the statement "faith is for fools" is true, even believing in science makes you a fool because almost nothing (if anything) in science is concrete, and there's always the possibility that what we consider to be a scientific "truth" now can be disproven by some new discovery made 5 minutes from now. So we have faith that everything we know about science is true and that there is no evidence to disprove it.



Oh not this again -__- , I'm not going to argue for those Fundamentalists who do have faith that's litterally blind faith. Physical evidence isn't the only kind of logical proof for anything. How do you suppose we come up with hypotheses for science? By using our logic thinking. When things happen differently then we thought then we learn correct. Same thing goes for religion if you do it right. We propose a situation, test it, and make conclusions. Of course there are some things in religion that can only be explained to people with abstract concept but for things like the concept of ceremonial burial, it's simple.


The only form of logical thinking that I know of is the scientific method (form a hypothesis, test it, support it with evidence, make it a plausible theory that may be disproven by new evidence later on). As far as I know, any "hypothesis" that is prevalent in religion (the Bible is the word of God, all things need a creator, etc) cannot be tested or verified by any amount of research that we do, because all deities are beyond the physical world, and science only explains the natural world. To me it seems like most religious people's "logical thinking" is make a hypothesis>affirm that it is true without testing it and ignore any evidence against it>believe it is an absolute truth that can never be changed. Of course that's fine since religion deals with things beyond our physical world, but I don't see how it's the same logic as the scientific method, since anyone can believe anything they want no matter what anyone else says, but it's still just as valid as everyone else's beliefs. If science worked like that, we'd probably all still be living in wooden huts and spear hunting buffalo.


-I think that last statement was rather exagerated. Remember that religion/philosophy and science are two different fields of knowledge, they don't merge that often. You probably don't think that a form of scientific method wouldn't work simply because you look at all of the religions as correct. As in science and likewise in religion and philosophy, only one idea can work. Many theories around the one correct idea can work. I'm not saying that one religion is 100% proven right, but there is certainly one out that that knows about the real truth than the others. Simply focusing on the negatives will never get you anywhere.
-I will admit that philosophy and religion are not ideal sciences, hell they're not even catagorized that way, but they simply shouldn't be refuted like you said before. Keep in mind that religion is not just about heaven and hell, it's about how we live our lives on earth. Religion does make those hypothesis and the "tests" are not in labs, but rather you see it performed in the field. From the Christian religion, it's do unto others as you would have others do onto you. I don't think I have to explain this one since you learn this in kindergarten. As I said before, there are going to be some concepts that can only be explain with abstract concepts because we can't find anything on earth to compare it to, or test it for that matter.
-Keep in mind I'm NOT defending the Fundamentalists. There are other Christians out there besides them.
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Posted 11/9/08

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sigh dude that is just a shitty attempt at trolling 0/10


Stop being a mindless Spamming troll! Don't post on my threads if you do not have the IQ for the ED in the first place.
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Odin was in Final Fantasy IV


LMAO
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