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I just read a news paper that is saying most high schools and colleges no longer requires students to study the playwright Shakespeare. Personally I’m all for this. There are so much more important things you can teach students about than some unoriginal playwright. I’ve always considered him a master of literature but to be honest I don’t think he’s as great as many people consider him. His imagery is great, but his stories aren’t very original. Many people say that he was a master of the foote and meter, but he invented words so of course it was a lot easier for him to capture a beat… Anyway, that’s off topic. Some people are getting mad. They say Shakespeare is one of the most important figures in literature and that literature is an important subject. I agree with their later proclamation but no the former. I think literature should be taught, however I think there are more important figures to focus on than Shakespeare. Maybe he was a prodigy, but he didn’t like… completely revolutionize literature as we know it.

Honestly I’m not quite -for- this, but I’m certainly not against it. I don’t view it as that important. It’s a negligible matter only useful for a good debate here on CR.
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Shakespeare is not gone yet...i love Shakespeare...hes like a hero...i loved his macbeth, Hamlet and Romeo and Juliet...what stories they were..they blew me away...sigh
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Well those stories weren't that great. They're cliche. It's how he puts them together that makes him a good playwright if you ask me... Especially Romeo and Juliet.... But no, he's not 100% gone yet, but if we continue down the path we are going....
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Why is Shakespeare needed in school again?
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Not at my school, you read at least one Shakespeare play three out of the four years, and I don't see them stopping anytime soon.
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though i love romeo and juliet.. i'm not against his works not being taught on highschools.. there are still better stuff that can be taught and can also relate to our everyday lives.. such as to kill a mockingbird although blacks have the same equality as any other race now. its still a god book.
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Posted 4/24/07

SeraphAlford wrote:

Well those stories weren't that great. They're cliche. It's how he puts them together that makes him a good playwright if you ask me... Especially Romeo and Juliet.... But no, he's not 100% gone yet, but if we continue down the path we are going....


You just answered your own question then. Macbeth, Romeo and Juliet, and Hamlet are the stories that they make us read in high school. If you, a student, has realized that the stories hold minimal educational value, then why would school systems apply that crap for teaching purposes?
In my opinion, those 3 works were pretty boring, but then again I barely paid attention to each of them during class. Maybe they should stop making us read those three plays and instead focus on other of Shakespeare's writings that can suggest more constructivity than uninteresting drama and fiction.
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nnnnnnnnnnoooooooooooooo. i had to suffer from it so future kids should also.
Posted 4/24/07
That's a good thing. I never really understood those plays anyway.
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You all must have had terrible teachers, I always enjoyed Shakespeare. Sometimes we did fun things like at scenes out in class. The fight scenes were the best.
Posted 4/24/07
seraph, your initial posts are so long I rarely bother to even read the whole thing.....

I usually just get the jist of the post from other posters....

as for shakespeare, the man was a genious in his own right.
A little bit of shakespeare is good to waken up today's moronic youth.

get them off the couch and away from their mtv bullshit.
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if only Romeo X Juliet is true to Shakespear's Romeo and Juliet
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Although those stories are cliche in this era, they were pretty innovative for his time after all.

Also Shakespeare is mainly studied because it is the popular genre of the age. English is meant to study texts from different parts of history, and Shakespeare has a pretty unique style. The structure of iambic pentameter and old english is important to understand for its significance. The plot isn't the only part being studied. Many essays are revolved around the idea on how literature has changed throughout the ages and Shakespeare can be used for comparative purposes as he is the novel writer of the Renaissance.

At my school, I've read Julius Caesar, Romeo and Juliet, Macbeth, and Hamlet. It wasn't that bad in my view. I have to agree that the acting was probably the best part of the whole experience.
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I think it's good to have some knowledge about who Shakespeare is (as he's still well-known enough to be considered a classic). Maybe a unit on Renaissance literature in which one of their options is to read Shakespeare and write a report?
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n0odle wrote:

Why is Shakespeare needed in school again?
It makes a significant contribution to a better understanding of English language and its history. Let's use an example, taken from Romeo & Juliet: "O Romeo, wherefore art thou, Romeo?"

Today people might think Juliet was asking where Romeo was, but if we look at old English, we will discover that it translates to "O Romeo, why does it have to be you, Romeo?" That's why I find Shakespeare's works (in terms of etymology) interesting.

Quite a few sayings, phrases and words we use a lot today originate with Shakespeare's works as well. Such as 'the jaws of death' (12th Night), 'the game is afoot' (Henry IV), 'bated breath' (The Merchant of Venice), 'pound of flesh' (TMoV), and 'break the ice' (The Taming of the Shrew).

I think it's all down to how well a teacher teaches. If she makes it boring it'll be boring as fuck. I'm pretty lucky that ours made it interesting enough to engage our interest long enough to respect Shakespeare and similar playwrights (e.g. Marlowe).
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