Anime DEM (possible spoilers)
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Posted 4/24/07 , edited 4/24/07
Do you like these characters that came out of nowhere and solve all the problems?/Or those DEM moments that an impossible miracles happen? Why or why not?

Or discuss about any DEM charactes/DEM moments that appeared in any anime.
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Posted 4/24/07
Deus ex machina you mean? I'm afraid a lot of people here won't recognize that term.

It's a poor excuse for resolving an issue. Happens all the time in stories because writers place their characters in such ridiculous situations that they can't possibly have any hope without some sort of coincidental incident.
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Posted 4/24/07

jamehze wrote:

Deus ex machina you mean? I'm afraid a lot of people here won't recognize that term.

It's a poor excuse for resolving an issue. Happens all the time in stories because writers place their characters in such ridiculous situations that they can't possibly have any hope without some sort of coincidental incident.


sorry I should have explain what DEM is. Sometimes I get lazy.
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DEM = Deus ex Machina (I think thats what you're thinking of)

Its when something unexpected, out of context, device or event that occurs to resolve the situation or plot. Example, the entire thing was a dream or that it happened on a parallel universe so it doesn't affect the main plot.

Some anime nowadays solve their problems through sudden and drastic events that occur. Usually they come with an explanation but there are some cases where it just happens and it pisses people off.
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Posted 4/24/07
The dem that makes me thinking was how Kakashi gets...

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Mangekyo Sharingan with the two ninjutsu Amaterasu and Susanoo
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Posted 4/24/07
^ Haha. Naruto has some of the most blatant uses of Deus Ex Machina I've seen in a series for a while. Seriously there are so many things that were probably pulled out of the ass just to progress the story. I can't even begin to list them out.
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Posted 4/24/07
hm...but i does give it a twist. i mean from typical animes...i mean if everything was the same..or was solved the same way...it would get boring. i won't say it's bad...but it's a different way of doing things. it's way better than having loopholes.
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Posted 12/26/07
Just a little history on the term Deus ex Machina (although this is not to give an example in anime):

The term Deus ex Machina ("God out of the Machine") came about during the old theatrical interpretations of Mythological stories. Especially in Greek and Roman mythologies, the stories are often characterized by the Gods intervening with human affairs. Usually the case is when a favored hero or race is put in a predicament in which seemingly there is no longer any possible or logical solution to the problems at hand, a God or Gods would come down from their celestial dwellings (eg Olympus) and everything would be suddenly well (it is in our interest to believe that the Gods have power beyond human grasps and they can do anything at will).

In the ancient theatrical arts, these intervention of the Gods in human affairs are often projected as the actor or actress being lowered down from the "heavens" by some sort of backstage mechanisms involving strings and stuffs, hence "God from the machines".

Adapted into literature, it now refers to a style of writing in which, as an escape to an impossible predicament that the writer himself imposed on the characters in the first place, something deviant and out of logic or nature of the plot happens and everything goes well.


(source: Edith Hamilton, Mythology)
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Posted 12/26/07
Postscriptum: from my explanation above, it MUST be something that deviates from the nature of the plot, eg. something magical happens in a story that is about mechs in the future to resolve a certain predicament, when the plot never set out with magic in the first place.
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Pokemon has a lot of DEM situations
Posted 6/5/08
I really don't care for any of this DEM.
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