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America - Is this nation taking over the world?
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you americans pay so much serious attention to your controversies. half a world away, were just smiling, waiting for your precious humanitarian aid. this thread is so RATM.
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I assume you're talking about the axis powers... and there were three of them officially.


Thank goodness someone knew something about the work of world domination. Japan and Germany started it and the other one came after to allied with them. Which resulted the second World War.

America shouldn't do what mistakes other countries did. No matter how great your power is, those countries you are desiring to take over will form as one and kick your ass. But if America will even do something like that, then I'll be happy to betray this country myself. You got a point on the money efforts on the war. But it's not just money, they are also looking for natural resources and what you mention earlier is one of them, oil.


you americans pay so much serious attention to your controversies. half a world away, were just smiling, waiting for your precious humanitarian aid. this thread is so RATM.


I have no idea what the heck are you talking about. Atleast all of you should have a concern. This is not just about a world problem, it's about why the world is lacking cooperation. If you are looking around your hometown. Maybe you would say it's beautiful. But just in case you didn't get inform, maybe one day you will wonder why you are being slaved by other countries.
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can we leave america alone...maybe then they'll leave us alone?? haha. honestly though....the US does stick it's nose everywhere. i mean i understand the whole we are the super power of the world (for now) but seriously...don't think too highly of yourself. in a couple of years...who knows where the US will be? i mean...china and india are doing a decent job of picking themselves up. hey...for all you know....english may not be the universal language anymore. haha.
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you americans pay so much serious attention to your controversies. half a world away, were just smiling, waiting for your precious humanitarian aid. this thread is so RATM.


I have no idea what the heck are you talking about. Atleast all of you should have a concern. This is not just about a world problem, it's about why the world is lacking cooperation. If you are looking around your hometown. Maybe you would say it's beautiful. But just in case you didn't get inform, maybe one day you will wonder why you are being slaved by other countries.


i had the feeling id get this kind of reply. but anyway, its just that i choose to entertain those threads with more priority. after reading the title, i just clicked away to get some laughs... after reading the first post though, i got a 'this post is so teenager bewildered by old folk's world fueled by american music and media' feeling. oh and about world problem, i live in the third world so... just dont. "Maybe you would say it's beautiful." The world is beautiful, tv would tell you otherwise. There are people who suffer, but there are also people giving their lives for those kind of people. Seriously, if your talking about cooperation, for the better of people's welfare worldwide, dont go saying that here, thats too personal and restricted. instead, study hard, graduate foreign affairs with a masters in language and go work for the UN and get heard on BBC laying out your complaints against megacorporations and distribution of wealth.

anyway, just to stay on topic, i, a concerned citizen of the world, do not believe that the united states of america, is trying to take over, by military means, the world just as japan and germany did 68 years ago.
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CrashAriMP5N2O wrote:

Topic not worth arguing, but I'll be nice to even post what I think could relate to this thread.

For your reason 1, you're overlooking the fact that no other country can contribute to humanitarian aid more than the US despite its police-like stance.
Hmmm, it's not as simple nor clean-cut as you implied here. The US media does promote the idea that the US is the biggest contributor, but in reality the US is at near bottom (second last, I think) with Sweden or Luxembourg at top, according to the OECD/GNI reports. There's no denying, though, the US's humanitarian contributions are most publicised. The US media has to be the best thing about the US as it really does know how to utilises its resources in terms of promoting its country worldwide.

Anyway, in layman's terms - yes, the US is the biggest contributor, but when comes to determining capita per head, it isn't. I'm not a fan of statistics as it's too easy to misinterpret statistics but in this case I can't deny they might be right. Rather than directing you to a site with painfully dry text, this one would be good: http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Debt/USAid.asp. The rest of the site is cool, too, but for those who're interested in this, don't rely it as a sole source as it's always a good idea to double check by comparing this with elsewhere.

However when it comes to political influence it's a different story. The US is definitely among those with heaviest global political weight. Ten years ago it had the biggest but today, one of four (I'd say three, but officially it's four).

Hope all that makes sense cos I'm in doubt of my ability to write clearly today.
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killa, I would suggest supporting yourself more in your statements with facts and/or links.
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Ok, im not too sure, i hate stuff like this but
Maybe a few decades ago, you could probably say America was taking over.
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Hmm...is America taking over the world?

So THAT'S why we call globalisation "Americanisation" over here.

American influences are everywhere; you just have to spot a McDonald's / Coca Cola / Microsoft / Nike to see it.

I guess the American capitalist force is taking over, but now with emerging economies, hopefully we will experience less of this as we become exposed to different influences.

I don't feel American capitalism a bad thing; after all it's strangely thanks to their sense of enterprise that we have become a modern society with great infrastructure etc.

Though some Americans feel it is their god-given right to sit on the throne of the world...they just forget that there is a much larger world out there that is NOT what they see as the 'American dream'.

I think America has done its piece now...there's not much left for them to do. I guess we'll see the rise of Asia next.

America has had the throne for too long...people are becoming tired of it.
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dawn1theMARCO wrote:

America shouldn't do what mistakes other countries did. No matter how great your power is, those countries you are desiring to take over will form as one and kick your ass. But if America will even do something like that, then I'll be happy to betray this country myself. You got a point on the money efforts on the war. But it's not just money, they are also looking for natural resources and what you mention earlier is one of them, oil.



here is the issue though - we have the technology available to lose our dependence on oil. but why don't we? because of all the money being made off of it. but it keeps getting blocked from the public. it's not really a run for natural resources - it's just an attempt to make existing natural resources much more more expensive than they already are.


catex wrote:

Hmmm, it's not as simple nor clean-cut as you implied here. The US media does promote the idea that the US is the biggest contributor, but in reality the US is at near bottom (second last, I think) with Sweden or Luxembourg at top, according to the OECD/GNI reports. There's no denying, though, the US's humanitarian contributions are most publicised. The US media has to be the best thing about the US as it really does know how to utilises its resources in terms of promoting its country worldwide.

Anyway, in layman's terms - yes, the US is the biggest contributor, but when comes to determining capita per head, it isn't. I'm not a fan of statistics as it's too easy to misinterpret statistics but in this case I can't deny they might be right. Rather than directing you to a site with painfully dry text, this one would be good: http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Debt/USAid.asp. The rest of the site is cool, too, but for those who're interested in this, don't rely it as a sole source as it's always a good idea to double check by comparing this with elsewhere.

However when it comes to political influence it's a different story. The US is definitely among those with heaviest global political weight. Ten years ago it had the biggest but today, one of four (I'd say three, but officially it's four).

Hope all that makes sense cos I'm in doubt of my ability to write clearly today.


I have a hard time justifying sending out an absurd amount of aid with a national debt of 9 trillion and all of our domestic problems that keeps getting swept under the rug.

That and I was under the impression that unless countries were being attacked, they didn't really want the US involved. France doesn't seem to care for us much now, but I recall them being a lot more positive about the US when we arrived in normandy 60+ years ago.

I'm rather suspect of the link you proivided. You can get statistics to say anything. But looking at raw data, it's hard to argue that contributing 291 million (Luxemburg - second on the list) is much more significant than 22.7 billion the US has (last on the list) . Sure thre is the per capita angle... but I suspect Luxemburg is a lot wealthier than the US per capita as well. The wealth in the US is pretty lopsided, especially when compared with the european countries on the top of that list. Those countries also have obscenely high taxes. Our rich people may be the richest, but I suspect our lower class is far worse off than some of those nation's (on the list provided) lower classes.


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Hmm...is America taking over the world?

So THAT'S why we call globalisation "Americanisation" over here.

American influences are everywhere; you just have to spot a McDonald's / Coca Cola / Microsoft / Nike to see it.

I guess the American capitalist force is taking over, but now with emerging economies, hopefully we will experience less of this as we become exposed to different influences.

I don't feel American capitalism a bad thing; after all it's strangely thanks to their sense of enterprise that we have become a modern society with great infrastructure etc.

Though some Americans feel it is their god-given right to sit on the throne of the world...they just forget that there is a much larger world out there that is NOT what they see as the 'American dream'.

I think America has done its piece now...there's not much left for them to do. I guess we'll see the rise of Asia next.

America has had the throne for too long...people are becoming tired of it.


I blame "americanization" on people buying our shit. Mcdonalds and hip hop wouldn't mean a damn thing overseas if people didn't keep buying it. Foreign countries blaming the US for the popularity of american culture in their homeland is the equivelant of a fatass blaming McDonalds for them stuffing their face with unhealthy food.

I've been predicting that China is going to be the next premier world super power to emerge for a while now. In fact, I beleive this so much that I'm taking 3 years of chinese starting next semester.
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doubt it twith national debt a 6.5 trillion$
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I blame "americanization" on people buying our shit. Mcdonalds and hip hop wouldn't mean a damn thing overseas if people kept buying it.

I've been predicting that China is going to be the next premier world super power to emerge for a while now. In fact, I beleive this so much that I'm taking 3 years of chinese starting next semester.


I guess people are so keen on buying American stuff because they had no "alternative" influence to look to....actually, hang on. Why on earth do people like American stuff so much? What is it...the attraction of appreaing to be wealthy? To be cool/glamorous?

*hides Big Mac burger under desk*

And about China being the next world power, heh, I don't think many Americans will like it; "Pah, we're being overtaken by a bunch of yellow-skinned, backward, rice eating Commies!" OH NOES!
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Zero_UK wrote:


azrael910 wrote:

I blame "americanization" on people buying our shit. Mcdonalds and hip hop wouldn't mean a damn thing overseas if people kept buying it.

I've been predicting that China is going to be the next premier world super power to emerge for a while now. In fact, I beleive this so much that I'm taking 3 years of chinese starting next semester.


I guess people are so keen on buying American stuff because they had no "alternative" influence to look to....actually, hang on. Why on earth do people like American stuff so much? What is it...the attraction of appreaing to be wealthy? To be cool/glamorous?

*hides Big Mac burger under desk*

And about China being the next world power, heh, I don't think many Americans will like it; "Pah, we're being overtaken by a bunch of yellow-skinned, backward, rice eating Commies!" OH NOES!


Thanks for stereotyping and insulting a race, and if you haven't realized there are Chinese Americans.
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kila1221 wrote:

america is taking over the world disguising it as a war on terror
and jamehze the government doesnt listen to its ppl at all


It's people are dumb asses that's why.
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The Chinese being the next world super power is likely, but for them to be able to have such a wide spread cultural influence like the US it will take years. After all you must realize American media has had a lot longer time to spread out its reach and influence peoples thinking to the point a lot of American culture begins to contaminate other cultures. In a sense if the media was properly utilized America could take over the world without firing a shot. But in the long run it would be fairly pointless to take over, the world it would be simpler to find a inhabitable planet and claim it, because once we took over there would still be factions every where who would want to resist and it would take more resources than we are willing to contribute to put them down. Even with the media influence, there are always disinters who would be unwilling to conform to what they would see as an alien influence to there country and way of life. Of course they could be easily squashed if you think about it all it would take would be the media turning their own people against them, but that would be giving the government to much credit on its ability to manipulate media and threw it the masses of the world.
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I really have no doubt that America is falling from it's perch of influence. I also believe that China will be the next superpower in the world, but like Jesterj, I believe that it will take the Chinese years to have the social impact that America has had on the world.

Americanization has covered many parts of the globe. Many American styles and ideals have been mixed with countries cultures, and I'm not just talking hip-hop and McDonalds. Women winning the right to vote, the Civil Rights Movement, The Union for Workers, the building styles of cities, and on and on. American culture is very unique and has changed much of society's views today, and that is going to carry over for a very long time.

Just look at Great Britain and how it fell out of power more than one hundred years ago, and yet English is still the language that makes the world go round.

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