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I agree with jay_jay26. Takumi is a very controlling person. And no one really knows if he's a good father because he isn't around much, and he isn't there much to take care of a pregnant wife. That is not a good father. Yes he provides money, but that doesn't mean Hachi, who has a submissive personality, should be with him. I don't really think he cares for her at all, it's just kinda a way for him to live a little fantasy of what he didn't have, and he doesn't even live it full time. And I do think he forced her to have sex, just because she didn't kick or shout no, doesn't mean it was ok. She feels very guilty, and it seems that she takes everything on herself, and thinks it's all her fault. That is a very abusive relationship. I have seen this type of abuse in person, and if these were real people that you loved, you wouldn't want that for them. Who cares if he's hot, there are a lot of mean hot people.

But I must say Hachi is getting a little more strong willed, which I think is good.
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lmoyer85 wrote:

I agree with jay_jay26. Takumi is a very controlling person. And no one really knows if he's a good father because he isn't around much, and he isn't there much to take care of a pregnant wife. That is not a good father. Yes he provides money, but that doesn't mean Hachi, who has a submissive personality, should be with him. I don't really think he cares for her at all, it's just kinda a way for him to live a little fantasy of what he didn't have, and he doesn't even live it full time. And I do think he forced her to have sex, just because she didn't kick or shout no, doesn't mean it was ok. She feels very guilty, and it seems that she takes everything on herself, and thinks it's all her fault. That is a very abusive relationship. I have seen this type of abuse in person, and if these were real people that you loved, you wouldn't want that for them. Who cares if he's hot, there are a lot of mean hot people.

But I must say Hachi is getting a little more strong willed, which I think is good.


Hear, hear.I totally agree with you. I'm actually a huge TakumixHachi fan, but I'm loving Nobu again. I defended Takumi so many times in the past but he keeps F*cking things up.

No one deserves to be in a relationship, when their "significant other," is taking them for granted. I too agree that Hachi puts up with a lot of her crap when no one in a relationship deserves that. Yes, I know she agreed to marry him and maybe she does deserve that crap, but it doesn't mean that she has to be content with it. She has forgiven him so many times and yet he can still be an ass.

I think takumi will realize hachi's true worth once they become separated.
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Posted 2/24/09

jane_cutieh wrote:

NOBUO!!!!!


Takumi's a jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerk!!!! [he only cares about his work and that freakin Reira!!!]


Yeah, I agree.
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yeah right takumi is controlling person the only person he can't control is hachi... does hachi knows how to control takumi? i bet she does she knows too well what's takumi's weakness and she knows how to use against him.. people always blame takumi but i think hachi is at fault too when people talk about how takumi put his work over his family hachi also put her friendship over her family too so both of them were at fault. And i also think that takumi as a womanizer was just a thing of the past. He matured and he is a good father and i think that what matters most.
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definitely NOBU!!!!!!!! nobu cares about hachi and realli luvs her. takumi is a player and is kinda possessive....
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gentlewater wrote:

yeah right takumi is controlling person the only person he can't control is hachi... does hachi knows how to control takumi? i bet she does she knows too well what's takumi's weakness and she knows how to use against him.. people always blame takumi but i think hachi is at fault too when people talk about how takumi put his work over his family hachi also put her friendship over her family too so both of them were at fault. And i also think that takumi as a womanizer was just a thing of the past. He matured and he is a good father and i think that what matters most.


AS always I support you gentlewaters ^_^ given I think nobu is grown up now and a great man but I still think hachi and takumi are good for each other!!!!
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I think we need to look at this is a bigger picture. Nobu and Hachi sure they are cute together I agree; however, in the long run their relationship might not be so good. Having two exactly the same "needy" types together will actually deteriorate w/e maturity those two finally achieved. Takumi is also needy in one aspect, but hell he doesn't show it, and he's not high maintenance at all, unlike some other people in the manga. Sure Takumi cheats on Hachi, I for one hate that. But if that's the main reason why some of you think those two should break up, well IMO that's not such a great idea. Takumi and Hachi has two kids together, and it's already been indicated after all those crazy troubles Takumi and hachi still love each other in the future. Their love managed and "triumphed" shall I say, while Nobu and Hachi's went down the drain. And maybe it went down the drain for a reason. The reason being, it just wasn't meant to be.
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The reason why i don't like nobu to be with hachi is because his character is so common; nice guy, devoted, he has this presence like we can depend on him and he sincerily love hachi. I don't think this this is bad at all but it's less exciting for me and i can find a guy like nobu in other shojo manga and when takumi appeared in front of nana i think wow this is different. The presence of takumi which he appeared to be a bad guy makes us wonder is he really that bad? did he only play with hachi? and those sort of thoughts. As the story progress and their relationship deepen we beginning to see a different side Takumi. And so the questions keep growing. Is he truly in love with her? is he capable enough to look after hachi? Will he be a good dad? And so on. There are tons of questions. And as for nobu? Did he had a big impact in hachi's life or was he just like shouji? their relationship didn't even have the chance to flourish it ended before it bloom. Which is a shame really coz some of you were hoping for them to be together. I dont' think it's right to still pair them knowing they both move on with their own lives. Nobu is with the actress and hachi is with takumi. Although hachi and takumi face marital problems they still married and hachi qoute "after everything that happened there is no reason for a divorce" or something like that. She is still trying to keep up the family and is there a big reason for them to get divorce? At the moment i didn't see any. I remember other said takumi is a jerk he support reira and he ignore his wife. I don't think it was a big deal i don't get why others make a fuzz in that scene. Hachi is pregnant doesn't mean she's not in good health. Whereas reira she's more vulnerable it was only right for takumi to assist her.

The author sometimes mislead us and keep us guessing of what gonna happen next. One thing i like is that she always give us a hint and that's what i keep believing.
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Posted 3/7/09 , edited 3/7/09

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I think that the two both have their faults. Well, not exactly faults, but perhaps flaws. Takumi, I guess loves Hachi, but he doesn't show it like Nobu does. I think that Nobu has much deeper feelings, but lets her go because he realizes his 'inability' to care for her child and her. However, now that the manga is where it is up to, I think Nobu should go with Hachi. He's grown up, and although he's with Yuri (grr...) I don't think that relationship will last.


Hmm... (still reading first page)

Now that you've mentioned it, since we haven't seen Yuri in the 'present-day' glimpses... O_O
Maybe.. there's a possibility there as well. But I don't think Hachi would put her family into danger like that, by having affairs. I think. I don't know. Can't explain myself clearly, but I think that since she would want to make the best out of her broken family for her children that she wouldn't do that. I'm reminded of the scene in the anime where she's preparing a bath for Nobu and there's just a cliffhanger there. O_O What happened after he held her back?! WHAT!?

Lol. I'm not really a big fan of either Nobu or Takumi when it comes to shipping. In some ways, I like them both. I see the way how they both affected Hachi in positive ways, and in a sense, I'm "team Switzerland" (shout out to those who get this! XP)... I'm good with either one as long as Hachi's happy. =D

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I think takumi will realize hachi's true worth once they become separated.


Or rather now?

I mean, there was a line in... I think chap. 74? Where Naoki and him were talking about what he would do if the divorce came through, and Takumi said that everyday would be a battle field for him. So I'm guessing that he's already either missing her presence. And like some of you said, he pinned for something that he did not have: a complete family. So maybe this living situation bothers him more than he likes to show?
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takumi.

even though he's like hurting her (EMOTIONALLY) and stuff, i dunno why, but i want Takumi to be with Hachi, clinging on the hope that one day Takumi will realize that he loves hachi (i still dont know if he actually loves her though..) and treat her better..
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TAKUMI. Although I'm pretty sure Hachi will end up with Nobu.
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takimi it's so cool,but nobu it's funny and i think hachi look better with nobu
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Takumi
Takumi Would Be the Best for Hachi Because Nobu Is Just Not Meant For Her. Plus Takumi Is totally Sexyy ;))) Remember the time he Cant stand the tought of somebody else inside of Nana, It was Bwahhh ;D
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nobu!!he is so lovely....
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I love Takumi x Hachi!
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