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Exotic, Supercar, Luxury, Tuner, etc.
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Ok people, so listen up and please read before u post.

I want to know how each person will catagorized cars base on their thinking. For example, COST to me doesn't determine how i look at a car. and i know that alot of cars can be catagorized in multi catagory.

Ok, a better example think of the NSX (90's-05) to me i would put that in the Exotic family becuz to me it's not about the maker name its about the car itself and how u judge it and not about hoe much the car cost or if it has to be a euro car to be consider exotic, super, etc...so here is my little list:

Exotic
Honda/Acura NSX
Lambo's
Farrari F lines (f50, etc)
Dodge Viper
keg CCX (can't spell the damn name and too tire to look up)
DB9

Supercar
Ultimate Aero
Veyron (yup yup)
Enzo
Gamb. 911t (the 700++hp lines)
McLaren SLR
Ford GT
Nissan Skyline lines (i know alot of people will say im nuts)

Tuner- this will be ALOT of cars but i will only list a few (remember this is my personal opinion)
Toyota Supra
Chevy Corvette (not the ZR1)
Pointiac GTO (old and new)
BMW M3
Evo's

Luxury
Rolls Royce cars(yea thats how i want to spell it makes it easier)
Cadilliac cars


Ok, as of right now i know many people will think im stupid or nuts but here me out. The reason why the CCX got put in the Exotic cat. is because to me (and i know its a very fast car) it register as a "OMG that car is HOTT)....the same goes for the farrari F lines. now, i put the skyline in the Supercar cat. because its not about speed (although revelent) or money its just that when u think about Jap supercar u think about skylines...and believe me if it werent for their damn gov strict regulation shit they probably built the fastest cars in the world (stock) and the european cars would be for people with money. the M3 got to be tuners cuz stock, even a Evo FQ400 will keep up with it.

I know alot of people will say alot of shit back but hey this is how i view them and this is MY opinion on them (thank GOD were all not the same mind)....so go ahead and post yours
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No Muscle?
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mokney wrote:

No Muscle?


Does not really exist anymore.
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veyron1001 wrote:


mokney wrote:

No Muscle?


Does not really exist anymore.


Hmm, well you see,

Muscle Cars are still in production, but they are not actually classified as such. When they first came out they were labeled as a super car. But technically you should still have it up there.

Modern Muscle includes HSV W427, Pontiac GTO/Holden Monaro V2-VZ, FPV GT-P and Chevrolet Camero which will be available in Australia soon. They are still considered muscle cars.
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viper should be with the super cars not the exotics
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Shabbernigdo wrote:

viper should be with the super cars not the exotics


the reason y the viper was not listed in the super car section is cuz most high end vette can keep up/beat them....just not the ACR viper, and that is another thing too i didn't say ALL viper lines im just refering to the reg rt/srt-10, but definitely not the ACR
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viper should be with the super cars not the exotics


also its just in my opinion but please give me ur list i like to see how other people's opinion
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I believe exotic to be more on feature where as supercar is more on power. The Henessy Viper is a super car.
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mokney wrote:


veyron1001 wrote:


mokney wrote:

No Muscle?


Does not really exist anymore.


Hmm, well you see,

Muscle Cars are still in production, but they are not actually classified as such. When they first came out they were labeled as a super car. But technically you should still have it up there.

Modern Muscle includes HSV W427, Pontiac GTO/Holden Monaro V2-VZ, FPV GT-P and Chevrolet Camero which will be available in Australia soon. They are still considered muscle cars.


I think xiong just probably forgot this category on accident honestly.

Even though i'm japanese, my first car that i babied was a '69 Camaro RS/SS with a 350 in it, nothing major, only real thing 'aftermarket' to it was a tunnel ram.

Also, muscle cars have no actual confusion between them, though sometimes people debate whether or not the Corvettes and Vipers are muscle cars or not, or if the SRT-4 Neons should be in the tuner category or the muscle category via mopar heritage.

The pontiac GTO for example as well as the Saturn Sky/Solstice/Opel GT are all considered tuner cars as opposed to muscle cars.

The new Charger was a failure, because to me it should've never been a 4-door with such low-balled power with tank-like weight.

The Holdens never made it to the US and therefore can't be considered American muscle because even though they are indeed GM derivatives, there's really nothing GM about Holden. I've always put Holden far above any of GM's lines. My dream truck is still a Murano.

Muscle cars IMO were never supercars. not even the classics. They were all from the same story, being regular 4 or 6-bangers that due to desperation of lacking sales, the automakers put truck engines into them. But the price, overall aesthetics, and popularity was what kept them separate from the Exotic class, which is all about what the average joe can't get.
Plus, muscle cars died out due to cost strains on the company as well as so many street races and accidents because of the leniency of seatbelt laws at the time. So, slow econobox cars liek the Honda CVCC and even the old '73 Celica's which look like muscle cars, were the prime choice amongst parents and some teens.

I could say more, but i'm piss drunk. lol.

Just putting in my $0.02.

Have a great day!
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xiongboy wrote:

Ok people, so listen up and please read before u post.

I want to know how each person will catagorized cars base on their thinking. For example, COST to me doesn't determine how i look at a car. and i know that alot of cars can be catagorized in multi catagory.
:)


wait... so what do you want us to do? Copypaste your list, add a shitload of cars, and then tell you how we label each of them?

That's like 20 Questions game on steroids man.

Just gimme a true sleeper like a '94 Mazda GTR, a Peugeot 106 Rallye, or a '91 Galant VR4 and i'll be a happy man.
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RossoCorsa wrote:


mokney wrote:


veyron1001 wrote:


mokney wrote:

No Muscle?


Does not really exist anymore.


Hmm, well you see,

Muscle Cars are still in production, but they are not actually classified as such. When they first came out they were labeled as a super car. But technically you should still have it up there.

Modern Muscle includes HSV W427, Pontiac GTO/Holden Monaro V2-VZ, FPV GT-P and Chevrolet Camero which will be available in Australia soon. They are still considered muscle cars.


I think xiong just probably forgot this category on accident honestly.

Even though i'm japanese, my first car that i babied was a '69 Camaro RS/SS with a 350 in it, nothing major, only real thing 'aftermarket' to it was a tunnel ram.

Also, muscle cars have no actual confusion between them, though sometimes people debate whether or not the Corvettes and Vipers are muscle cars or not, or if the SRT-4 Neons should be in the tuner category or the muscle category via mopar heritage.

The pontiac GTO for example as well as the Saturn Sky/Solstice/Opel GT are all considered tuner cars as opposed to muscle cars.

The new Charger was a failure, because to me it should've never been a 4-door with such low-balled power with tank-like weight.

The Holdens never made it to the US and therefore can't be considered American muscle because even though they are indeed GM derivatives, there's really nothing GM about Holden. I've always put Holden far above any of GM's lines. My dream truck is still a Murano.

Muscle cars IMO were never supercars. not even the classics. They were all from the same story, being regular 4 or 6-bangers that due to desperation of lacking sales, the automakers put truck engines into them. But the price, overall aesthetics, and popularity was what kept them separate from the Exotic class, which is all about what the average joe can't get.
Plus, muscle cars died out due to cost strains on the company as well as so many street races and accidents because of the leniency of seatbelt laws at the time. So, slow econobox cars liek the Honda CVCC and even the old '73 Celica's which look like muscle cars, were the prime choice amongst parents and some teens.

I could say more, but i'm piss drunk. lol.

Just putting in my $0.02.

Have a great day!


Actually, Muscle car was not even used until the 80's where they were phased out. Back in the 60's/70's they were considered super cars as I read. The article in my Aussie Muscle mag says that muscle was more on power than features...so maybe muscle is constituted by the focus of high horsepower/kilowatts etc etc.


The Holdens never made it to the US and therefore can't be considered American muscle because even though they are indeed GM derivatives, there's really nothing GM about Holden. I've always put Holden far above any of GM's lines. My dream truck is still a Murano.


Hmm, it can be classified as American muscle because GM sent some of their team to Holden to help with the VE construction.

The Monaro V2-VZ were sent to America and England and re badged as the Pontiac GTO (V2) and Vauxhall VXR is actually based on the design for the HSV GTO/GTS Coupe from V2-VZ ie the body kits were the same. Vauxhall then introduced the VR8 which is a VE HSV GTS. The VE was first developed back in 99-00 after the release of the VT range. Because GM was looking for a new car to add, they added the Monaro's, But during the development of the VE, they sent their own techs to help with the design as they were to be distributed world wide under different names. Since 2000, Holden began using LS1 engines in their SS and HSV ranges. LS2 and the L76 engines were introduced to the VZ line up, and the L98 and LS3 have been introduced to the VE V8 line. Holden took advantage of their parent company to move up against Ford, which in Australia is the other car company that Aussies identify with. The reason was that the car was meant to be for the US market as the G8. So far only the Middle East and England have received the VE models. There are also talks for the sports Ute range to be imported to America as interviews have said that 50 Cent has expressed interest.

But on the note of the Muscle tag, wouldn't it be considered tuner as well? They are bought with the same intentions as other tuners, to modify in manner similar to Japanese tuner cars...so could they be considered tuners for that reason??
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xiongboy wrote:

Ok people, so listen up and please read before u post.

I want to know how each person will catagorized cars base on their thinking. For example, COST to me doesn't determine how i look at a car. and i know that alot of cars can be catagorized in multi catagory.
:)


wait... so what do you want us to do? Copypaste your list, add a shitload of cars, and then tell you how we label each of them?

That's like 20 Questions game on steroids man.

Just gimme a true sleeper like a '94 Mazda GTR, a Peugeot 106 Rallye, or a '91 Galant VR4 and i'll be a happy man.


not copy n paste cuz im sure u dont agree with some of my list....i just like to see how U would list it
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Posted 11/9/08
I pick tuner over all else
b/c supercars/exotics are bought for name only
people don't ever trick those out b/c they don't want to void their precious little warranty
so tuners are #1!!!!!!!
plus you can always tune a car to be faster then a super/exotic car
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why theres no mini-van on your list? Is the coolest, reliable and a chick magnet vehicle
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Exotic: over $50K (without all the optional items)

Supercar: 0-60 under 4 sec. and light weight (without all the optional items)

Tuner: self explanatory (nearly anything and no limit)

Luxury: heavy cars with leather seats and costing over $30K (without all the optional items)

Muscle: Any coupe and four door built by America and Australia (although most Australian cars are owned by American manufactures. Again (without all the optional items))

Economy: under $14k (with all the optional items) and Hybrid and Diesel (including BMW diesel cars)

Bicycles: self explanatory unless you put a rocket on it
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