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Exotic: over $50K (without all the optional items)

Supercar: 0-60 under 4 sec. and light weight (without all the optional items)

Tuner: self explanatory (nearly anything and no limit)

Luxury: heavy cars with leather seats and costing over $30K (without all the optional items)

Muscle: Any coupe and four door built by America and Australia (although most Australian cars are owned by American manufactures. Again (without all the optional items))

Economy: under $14k (with all the optional items) and Hybrid and Diesel (including BMW diesel cars)

Bicycles: self explanatory unless you put a rocket on it


Where do you live for you to think an exotic car costs start at $50k?
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Actually, Muscle car was not even used until the 80's where they were phased out. Back in the 60's/70's they were considered super cars as I read. The article in my Aussie Muscle mag says that muscle was more on power than features...so maybe muscle is constituted by the focus of high horsepower/kilowatts etc etc.


The Holdens never made it to the US and therefore can't be considered American muscle because even though they are indeed GM derivatives, there's really nothing GM about Holden. I've always put Holden far above any of GM's lines. My dream truck is still a Murano.


Hmm, it can be classified as American muscle because GM sent some of their team to Holden to help with the VE construction.

The Monaro V2-VZ were sent to America and England and re badged as the Pontiac GTO (V2) and Vauxhall VXR is actually based on the design for the HSV GTO/GTS Coupe from V2-VZ ie the body kits were the same. Vauxhall then introduced the VR8 which is a VE HSV GTS. The VE was first developed back in 99-00 after the release of the VT range. Because GM was looking for a new car to add, they added the Monaro's, But during the development of the VE, they sent their own techs to help with the design as they were to be distributed world wide under different names. Since 2000, Holden began using LS1 engines in their SS and HSV ranges. LS2 and the L76 engines were introduced to the VZ line up, and the L98 and LS3 have been introduced to the VE V8 line. Holden took advantage of their parent company to move up against Ford, which in Australia is the other car company that Aussies identify with. The reason was that the car was meant to be for the US market as the G8. So far only the Middle East and England have received the VE models. There are also talks for the sports Ute range to be imported to America as interviews have said that 50 Cent has expressed interest.

But on the note of the Muscle tag, wouldn't it be considered tuner as well? They are bought with the same intentions as other tuners, to modify in manner similar to Japanese tuner cars...so could they be considered tuners for that reason??


Muscle cars were just lowballer compacts with large truck engines crammed into them due to desparation of sales. As far as them being supercars, Supercars were called so because they were cars most people couldn't afford at the time. Muscle cars were still on the affordable part of the spectrum even when compared to the dollar values in those years.

I appreciate the info you have regarding GM where you're from, but although there are several rebadges, the engine output and tuning, amount of work in them, as well as what market each country targets, was (and still is) completely different in the minds of the big 3, which is why they're now begging for government bailouts after seeing what "uncle sam" did for nationwide banks.

Now to your question on the "muscle tag", in my opinion and that of MANY all around the world, it is INDEED a tuner. Hell, even America's coveted NASCAR, though it says "STOCK CAR RACING", is indeed, far from it. We built our cars and swapped more powerful motors just like they do, we are doing everything they do, only difference is, due to a lot of Japan's laws, the bigger your engine equals the higher the taxes, so everyone stuck to heavily modifying 4-cylinder engines. But simply put, the iconic styling and power of those days (300 horsepower was easily realized in those days, but just dyno queens. the weight of the vehicles negated the high horsepower numbers) are what they, the muscle car aficionados, believe is what makes americans superior to japanese, french, and the germans.

Seems to me the only thing that killed it was the over-the-top styling that many posers tried to emulate for cheap to try and pretend they were high-horsepower cars... but muscle cars had that too with people having V6 or I6 Mustangs that they'd try covering up and rebadging as V8's.

Americans just want to believe that they're #1 at something i suppose...
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mokney wrote:

Actually, Muscle car was not even used until the 80's where they were phased out. Back in the 60's/70's they were considered super cars as I read. The article in my Aussie Muscle mag says that muscle was more on power than features...so maybe muscle is constituted by the focus of high horsepower/kilowatts etc etc.


The Holdens never made it to the US and therefore can't be considered American muscle because even though they are indeed GM derivatives, there's really nothing GM about Holden. I've always put Holden far above any of GM's lines. My dream truck is still a Murano.


Hmm, it can be classified as American muscle because GM sent some of their team to Holden to help with the VE construction.

The Monaro V2-VZ were sent to America and England and re badged as the Pontiac GTO (V2) and Vauxhall VXR is actually based on the design for the HSV GTO/GTS Coupe from V2-VZ ie the body kits were the same. Vauxhall then introduced the VR8 which is a VE HSV GTS. The VE was first developed back in 99-00 after the release of the VT range. Because GM was looking for a new car to add, they added the Monaro's, But during the development of the VE, they sent their own techs to help with the design as they were to be distributed world wide under different names. Since 2000, Holden began using LS1 engines in their SS and HSV ranges. LS2 and the L76 engines were introduced to the VZ line up, and the L98 and LS3 have been introduced to the VE V8 line. Holden took advantage of their parent company to move up against Ford, which in Australia is the other car company that Aussies identify with. The reason was that the car was meant to be for the US market as the G8. So far only the Middle East and England have received the VE models. There are also talks for the sports Ute range to be imported to America as interviews have said that 50 Cent has expressed interest.

But on the note of the Muscle tag, wouldn't it be considered tuner as well? They are bought with the same intentions as other tuners, to modify in manner similar to Japanese tuner cars...so could they be considered tuners for that reason??


Muscle cars were just lowballer compacts with large truck engines crammed into them due to desparation of sales. As far as them being supercars, Supercars were called so because they were cars most people couldn't afford at the time. Muscle cars were still on the affordable part of the spectrum even when compared to the dollar values in those years.

I appreciate the info you have regarding GM where you're from, but although there are several rebadges, the engine output and tuning, amount of work in them, as well as what market each country targets, was (and still is) completely different in the minds of the big 3, which is why they're now begging for government bailouts after seeing what "uncle sam" did for nationwide banks.

Now to your question on the "muscle tag", in my opinion and that of MANY all around the world, it is INDEED a tuner. Hell, even America's coveted NASCAR, though it says "STOCK CAR RACING", is indeed, far from it. We built our cars and swapped more powerful motors just like they do, we are doing everything they do, only difference is, due to a lot of Japan's laws, the bigger your engine equals the higher the taxes, so everyone stuck to heavily modifying 4-cylinder engines. But simply put, the iconic styling and power of those days (300 horsepower was easily realized in those days, but just dyno queens. the weight of the vehicles negated the high horsepower numbers) are what they, the muscle car aficionados, believe is what makes americans superior to japanese, french, and the germans.

Seems to me the only thing that killed it was the over-the-top styling that many posers tried to emulate for cheap to try and pretend they were high-horsepower cars... but muscle cars had that too with people having V6 or I6 Mustangs that they'd try covering up and rebadging as V8's.

Americans just want to believe that they're #1 at something i suppose...


Ahhh, didn't know that. Suppose it might be true, but I do enjoy driving the family v8 more than I did the 4 cylinder, guess its preference.
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RossoCorsa wrote:


mokney wrote:

Actually, Muscle car was not even used until the 80's where they were phased out. Back in the 60's/70's they were considered super cars as I read. The article in my Aussie Muscle mag says that muscle was more on power than features...so maybe muscle is constituted by the focus of high horsepower/kilowatts etc etc.


The Holdens never made it to the US and therefore can't be considered American muscle because even though they are indeed GM derivatives, there's really nothing GM about Holden. I've always put Holden far above any of GM's lines. My dream truck is still a Murano.


Hmm, it can be classified as American muscle because GM sent some of their team to Holden to help with the VE construction.

The Monaro V2-VZ were sent to America and England and re badged as the Pontiac GTO (V2) and Vauxhall VXR is actually based on the design for the HSV GTO/GTS Coupe from V2-VZ ie the body kits were the same. Vauxhall then introduced the VR8 which is a VE HSV GTS. The VE was first developed back in 99-00 after the release of the VT range. Because GM was looking for a new car to add, they added the Monaro's, But during the development of the VE, they sent their own techs to help with the design as they were to be distributed world wide under different names. Since 2000, Holden began using LS1 engines in their SS and HSV ranges. LS2 and the L76 engines were introduced to the VZ line up, and the L98 and LS3 have been introduced to the VE V8 line. Holden took advantage of their parent company to move up against Ford, which in Australia is the other car company that Aussies identify with. The reason was that the car was meant to be for the US market as the G8. So far only the Middle East and England have received the VE models. There are also talks for the sports Ute range to be imported to America as interviews have said that 50 Cent has expressed interest.

But on the note of the Muscle tag, wouldn't it be considered tuner as well? They are bought with the same intentions as other tuners, to modify in manner similar to Japanese tuner cars...so could they be considered tuners for that reason??


Muscle cars were just lowballer compacts with large truck engines crammed into them due to desparation of sales. As far as them being supercars, Supercars were called so because they were cars most people couldn't afford at the time. Muscle cars were still on the affordable part of the spectrum even when compared to the dollar values in those years.

I appreciate the info you have regarding GM where you're from, but although there are several rebadges, the engine output and tuning, amount of work in them, as well as what market each country targets, was (and still is) completely different in the minds of the big 3, which is why they're now begging for government bailouts after seeing what "uncle sam" did for nationwide banks.

Now to your question on the "muscle tag", in my opinion and that of MANY all around the world, it is INDEED a tuner. Hell, even America's coveted NASCAR, though it says "STOCK CAR RACING", is indeed, far from it. We built our cars and swapped more powerful motors just like they do, we are doing everything they do, only difference is, due to a lot of Japan's laws, the bigger your engine equals the higher the taxes, so everyone stuck to heavily modifying 4-cylinder engines. But simply put, the iconic styling and power of those days (300 horsepower was easily realized in those days, but just dyno queens. the weight of the vehicles negated the high horsepower numbers) are what they, the muscle car aficionados, believe is what makes americans superior to japanese, french, and the germans.

Seems to me the only thing that killed it was the over-the-top styling that many posers tried to emulate for cheap to try and pretend they were high-horsepower cars... but muscle cars had that too with people having V6 or I6 Mustangs that they'd try covering up and rebadging as V8's.

Americans just want to believe that they're #1 at something i suppose...


Ahhh, didn't know that. Suppose it might be true, but I do enjoy driving the family v8 more than I did the 4 cylinder, guess its preference.


I loved my '69 Camaro RS/SS back when i had it... it would confuse people as to why a Japanese guy was driving it and actually caring for it, lol.

But i've just been a hardcore Mitsubishi Evolution, Toyota Supra, and S2000 fan. For some reason the skylines never appealed to me, lol.
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mokney wrote:


RossoCorsa wrote:


mokney wrote:

Actually, Muscle car was not even used until the 80's where they were phased out. Back in the 60's/70's they were considered super cars as I read. The article in my Aussie Muscle mag says that muscle was more on power than features...so maybe muscle is constituted by the focus of high horsepower/kilowatts etc etc.


The Holdens never made it to the US and therefore can't be considered American muscle because even though they are indeed GM derivatives, there's really nothing GM about Holden. I've always put Holden far above any of GM's lines. My dream truck is still a Murano.


Hmm, it can be classified as American muscle because GM sent some of their team to Holden to help with the VE construction.

The Monaro V2-VZ were sent to America and England and re badged as the Pontiac GTO (V2) and Vauxhall VXR is actually based on the design for the HSV GTO/GTS Coupe from V2-VZ ie the body kits were the same. Vauxhall then introduced the VR8 which is a VE HSV GTS. The VE was first developed back in 99-00 after the release of the VT range. Because GM was looking for a new car to add, they added the Monaro's, But during the development of the VE, they sent their own techs to help with the design as they were to be distributed world wide under different names. Since 2000, Holden began using LS1 engines in their SS and HSV ranges. LS2 and the L76 engines were introduced to the VZ line up, and the L98 and LS3 have been introduced to the VE V8 line. Holden took advantage of their parent company to move up against Ford, which in Australia is the other car company that Aussies identify with. The reason was that the car was meant to be for the US market as the G8. So far only the Middle East and England have received the VE models. There are also talks for the sports Ute range to be imported to America as interviews have said that 50 Cent has expressed interest.

But on the note of the Muscle tag, wouldn't it be considered tuner as well? They are bought with the same intentions as other tuners, to modify in manner similar to Japanese tuner cars...so could they be considered tuners for that reason??


Muscle cars were just lowballer compacts with large truck engines crammed into them due to desparation of sales. As far as them being supercars, Supercars were called so because they were cars most people couldn't afford at the time. Muscle cars were still on the affordable part of the spectrum even when compared to the dollar values in those years.

I appreciate the info you have regarding GM where you're from, but although there are several rebadges, the engine output and tuning, amount of work in them, as well as what market each country targets, was (and still is) completely different in the minds of the big 3, which is why they're now begging for government bailouts after seeing what "uncle sam" did for nationwide banks.

Now to your question on the "muscle tag", in my opinion and that of MANY all around the world, it is INDEED a tuner. Hell, even America's coveted NASCAR, though it says "STOCK CAR RACING", is indeed, far from it. We built our cars and swapped more powerful motors just like they do, we are doing everything they do, only difference is, due to a lot of Japan's laws, the bigger your engine equals the higher the taxes, so everyone stuck to heavily modifying 4-cylinder engines. But simply put, the iconic styling and power of those days (300 horsepower was easily realized in those days, but just dyno queens. the weight of the vehicles negated the high horsepower numbers) are what they, the muscle car aficionados, believe is what makes americans superior to japanese, french, and the germans.

Seems to me the only thing that killed it was the over-the-top styling that many posers tried to emulate for cheap to try and pretend they were high-horsepower cars... but muscle cars had that too with people having V6 or I6 Mustangs that they'd try covering up and rebadging as V8's.

Americans just want to believe that they're #1 at something i suppose...


Ahhh, didn't know that. Suppose it might be true, but I do enjoy driving the family v8 more than I did the 4 cylinder, guess its preference.


I loved my '69 Camaro RS/SS back when i had it... it would confuse people as to why a Japanese guy was driving it and actually caring for it, lol.

But i've just been a hardcore Mitsubishi Evolution, Toyota Supra, and S2000 fan. For some reason the skylines never appealed to me, lol.


I reckon the EVO VIII was a hot number, and supra er I think 1996 era (dunno the actual year, the smoother styled models) are my favourite Japanese cars. We used to have a skyline but sold it. But for most of my life, my family have loved V8's and Holden, and I am the same. Speaking of cars, I should have mine soon hopefully. It's a shame though, cause if I had 30k I'd probably buy either a Supra or something...but that damn V8 and its exhaust note compel me otherwise.
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I reckon the EVO VIII was a hot number, and supra er I think 1996 era (dunno the actual year, the smoother styled models) are my favourite Japanese cars. We used to have a skyline but sold it. But for most of my life, my family have loved V8's and Holden, and I am the same. Speaking of cars, I should have mine soon hopefully. It's a shame though, cause if I had 30k I'd probably buy either a Supra or something...but that damn V8 and its exhaust note compel me otherwise.


The Evo 8 and 9 I loved because each part of the car had an almost perfect balance of performance in all aspects.

The brakes were high-end brembo's on all fours that were logged to outperform the corvettes and other higher-price tagged cars during that year, the engine itself was a marvel for the fact a 2.0L 4-cyl. would have 300hp and near similar torque, plus it was a small and nimble yet very roomy four door sedan. For me, that car was an absolute perfect balance of everything. Sure, it didn't have just ONE thing it super-excelled at, but yet it didn't have any real weaknesses.

The supras you're referring to are from 1993 to 1998 in the US, while in Japan and other countries i believe it went on further.
The twin turbo six speed was an amazing car, and the clutch was so forgiving even though it was one of the first stickshifts i'd ever driven, i never stalled in it. Plus, the stock internals on that engine could handle upwards of 700horsepower (rumored to handle more, but i'm leaving it at 700 to be safe).

Chevy is bringing what looks like a Murano truck to the states sometime in 09 supposedly. I'm just scared minitruck fanatics will put it on a shitty airbag suspension and then slam the rear and raise the front so they can throw sparks like a bunch of idiots.

I was addicted to the V8 sound for a while but then the sound of the Subaru STi's got to me... lol.
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Are you talking about the 2jz engine in the supra? that thing can handle wayyy over 700, into the thousands, there are tuners in atlanta that do so but there is no point in doing so...

yes.. and the boxer engine is --;;; DROOL
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taketoshibc wrote:

Exotic: over $50K (without all the optional items)

Supercar: 0-60 under 4 sec. and light weight (without all the optional items)

Tuner: self explanatory (nearly anything and no limit)

Luxury: heavy cars with leather seats and costing over $30K (without all the optional items)

Muscle: Any coupe and four door built by America and Australia (although most Australian cars are owned by American manufactures. Again (without all the optional items))

Economy: under $14k (with all the optional items) and Hybrid and Diesel (including BMW diesel cars)

Bicycles: self explanatory unless you put a rocket on it


Where do you live for you to think an exotic car costs start at $50k?


hey! I'm poor, so everything is exotic to me.
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mokney wrote:

I reckon the EVO VIII was a hot number, and supra er I think 1996 era (dunno the actual year, the smoother styled models) are my favourite Japanese cars. We used to have a skyline but sold it. But for most of my life, my family have loved V8's and Holden, and I am the same. Speaking of cars, I should have mine soon hopefully. It's a shame though, cause if I had 30k I'd probably buy either a Supra or something...but that damn V8 and its exhaust note compel me otherwise.


The Evo 8 and 9 I loved because each part of the car had an almost perfect balance of performance in all aspects.

The brakes were high-end brembo's on all fours that were logged to outperform the corvettes and other higher-price tagged cars during that year, the engine itself was a marvel for the fact a 2.0L 4-cyl. would have 300hp and near similar torque, plus it was a small and nimble yet very roomy four door sedan. For me, that car was an absolute perfect balance of everything. Sure, it didn't have just ONE thing it super-excelled at, but yet it didn't have any real weaknesses.

The supras you're referring to are from 1993 to 1998 in the US, while in Japan and other countries i believe it went on further.
The twin turbo six speed was an amazing car, and the clutch was so forgiving even though it was one of the first stickshifts i'd ever driven, i never stalled in it. Plus, the stock internals on that engine could handle upwards of 700horsepower (rumored to handle more, but i'm leaving it at 700 to be safe).

Chevy is bringing what looks like a Murano truck to the states sometime in 09 supposedly. I'm just scared minitruck fanatics will put it on a shitty airbag suspension and then slam the rear and raise the front so they can throw sparks like a bunch of idiots.

I was addicted to the V8 sound for a while but then the sound of the Subaru STi's got to me... lol.


Just a question,

Are you confusing the Holden Monaro with the Nissan Murano??

I remember the first time I stalled a manual, first driving lesson in a fucking yaris. Awful cars to be honest. Stiff steering wheel and the pedals were tiny. I'm 6 foot 1 and my feet cramped when I drove it.

For good cars with smaller engines you can't leave out the Ford xr6 Turbo or F6. They handle like monsters, and while not tuned to a horsepower reading high, it still performs well. I had the intention of buying a base model car *Holden VL/VK* and modding myself with a bulk lot of mods...but alas, insurance and BMW finance are devils in disguise!

EDIT : If indeed you are referring to the Holden sports utility, then you probably wont. It's just a sedan without the rear seats. I'm trying to buy a VU Maloo *HSV Variant of the model*.

There are alot of sites out there who have done bulk mods on utes, like here in WA Eddy Tassone,
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mokney wrote:


RossoCorsa wrote:


mokney wrote:

I reckon the EVO VIII was a hot number, and supra er I think 1996 era (dunno the actual year, the smoother styled models) are my favourite Japanese cars. We used to have a skyline but sold it. But for most of my life, my family have loved V8's and Holden, and I am the same. Speaking of cars, I should have mine soon hopefully. It's a shame though, cause if I had 30k I'd probably buy either a Supra or something...but that damn V8 and its exhaust note compel me otherwise.


The Evo 8 and 9 I loved because each part of the car had an almost perfect balance of performance in all aspects.

The brakes were high-end brembo's on all fours that were logged to outperform the corvettes and other higher-price tagged cars during that year, the engine itself was a marvel for the fact a 2.0L 4-cyl. would have 300hp and near similar torque, plus it was a small and nimble yet very roomy four door sedan. For me, that car was an absolute perfect balance of everything. Sure, it didn't have just ONE thing it super-excelled at, but yet it didn't have any real weaknesses.

The supras you're referring to are from 1993 to 1998 in the US, while in Japan and other countries i believe it went on further.
The twin turbo six speed was an amazing car, and the clutch was so forgiving even though it was one of the first stickshifts i'd ever driven, i never stalled in it. Plus, the stock internals on that engine could handle upwards of 700horsepower (rumored to handle more, but i'm leaving it at 700 to be safe).

Chevy is bringing what looks like a Murano truck to the states sometime in 09 supposedly. I'm just scared minitruck fanatics will put it on a shitty airbag suspension and then slam the rear and raise the front so they can throw sparks like a bunch of idiots.

I was addicted to the V8 sound for a while but then the sound of the Subaru STi's got to me... lol.


Just a question,

Are you confusing the Holden Monaro with the Nissan Murano??

I remember the first time I stalled a manual, first driving lesson in a fucking yaris. Awful cars to be honest. Stiff steering wheel and the pedals were tiny. I'm 6 foot 1 and my feet cramped when I drove it.

For good cars with smaller engines you can't leave out the Ford xr6 Turbo or F6. They handle like monsters, and while not tuned to a horsepower reading high, it still performs well. I had the intention of buying a base model car *Holden VL/VK* and modding myself with a bulk lot of mods...but alas, insurance and BMW finance are devils in disguise!

EDIT : If indeed you are referring to the Holden sports utility, then you probably wont. It's just a sedan without the rear seats. I'm trying to buy a VU Maloo *HSV Variant of the model*.

There are alot of sites out there who have done bulk mods on utes, like here in WA Eddy Tassone,


Lol i stand corrected. i was mixing it up with the Holden truck... i'm tempted to say the Ute... but the nose/grille is totally different... and it's not the SS-V HSV either. ...damn half-assed news articles. Now i'm embarrassed, lol.

and actually i could leave out the Ford xr6 because i have yet to see it or any variant in the states, lol. They don't even have the EGT-Cosworth over here.

Thanks again for correcting me.
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mokney wrote:


RossoCorsa wrote:


mokney wrote:

I reckon the EVO VIII was a hot number, and supra er I think 1996 era (dunno the actual year, the smoother styled models) are my favourite Japanese cars. We used to have a skyline but sold it. But for most of my life, my family have loved V8's and Holden, and I am the same. Speaking of cars, I should have mine soon hopefully. It's a shame though, cause if I had 30k I'd probably buy either a Supra or something...but that damn V8 and its exhaust note compel me otherwise.


The Evo 8 and 9 I loved because each part of the car had an almost perfect balance of performance in all aspects.

The brakes were high-end brembo's on all fours that were logged to outperform the corvettes and other higher-price tagged cars during that year, the engine itself was a marvel for the fact a 2.0L 4-cyl. would have 300hp and near similar torque, plus it was a small and nimble yet very roomy four door sedan. For me, that car was an absolute perfect balance of everything. Sure, it didn't have just ONE thing it super-excelled at, but yet it didn't have any real weaknesses.

The supras you're referring to are from 1993 to 1998 in the US, while in Japan and other countries i believe it went on further.
The twin turbo six speed was an amazing car, and the clutch was so forgiving even though it was one of the first stickshifts i'd ever driven, i never stalled in it. Plus, the stock internals on that engine could handle upwards of 700horsepower (rumored to handle more, but i'm leaving it at 700 to be safe).

Chevy is bringing what looks like a Murano truck to the states sometime in 09 supposedly. I'm just scared minitruck fanatics will put it on a shitty airbag suspension and then slam the rear and raise the front so they can throw sparks like a bunch of idiots.

I was addicted to the V8 sound for a while but then the sound of the Subaru STi's got to me... lol.


Just a question,

Are you confusing the Holden Monaro with the Nissan Murano??

I remember the first time I stalled a manual, first driving lesson in a fucking yaris. Awful cars to be honest. Stiff steering wheel and the pedals were tiny. I'm 6 foot 1 and my feet cramped when I drove it.

For good cars with smaller engines you can't leave out the Ford xr6 Turbo or F6. They handle like monsters, and while not tuned to a horsepower reading high, it still performs well. I had the intention of buying a base model car *Holden VL/VK* and modding myself with a bulk lot of mods...but alas, insurance and BMW finance are devils in disguise!

EDIT : If indeed you are referring to the Holden sports utility, then you probably wont. It's just a sedan without the rear seats. I'm trying to buy a VU Maloo *HSV Variant of the model*.

There are alot of sites out there who have done bulk mods on utes, like here in WA Eddy Tassone,


Lol i stand corrected. i was mixing it up with the Holden truck... i'm tempted to say the Ute... but the nose/grille is totally different... and it's not the SS-V HSV either. ...damn half-assed news articles. Now i'm embarrassed, lol.

and actually i could leave out the Ford xr6 because i have yet to see it or any variant in the states, lol. They don't even have the EGT-Cosworth over here.

Thanks again for correcting me.


Yeah, its cool, I was thinking for a second "Murano?? Nissan and GM??"

But yeah, its actually going to be a VE SS Ute. The SS-V was indeed a concept but now the V is the top class. We get SS and SSV.



Is this what you were talking about??
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Posted 11/11/08

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RossoCorsa wrote:


mokney wrote:


RossoCorsa wrote:


mokney wrote:

I reckon the EVO VIII was a hot number, and supra er I think 1996 era (dunno the actual year, the smoother styled models) are my favourite Japanese cars. We used to have a skyline but sold it. But for most of my life, my family have loved V8's and Holden, and I am the same. Speaking of cars, I should have mine soon hopefully. It's a shame though, cause if I had 30k I'd probably buy either a Supra or something...but that damn V8 and its exhaust note compel me otherwise.


The Evo 8 and 9 I loved because each part of the car had an almost perfect balance of performance in all aspects.

The brakes were high-end brembo's on all fours that were logged to outperform the corvettes and other higher-price tagged cars during that year, the engine itself was a marvel for the fact a 2.0L 4-cyl. would have 300hp and near similar torque, plus it was a small and nimble yet very roomy four door sedan. For me, that car was an absolute perfect balance of everything. Sure, it didn't have just ONE thing it super-excelled at, but yet it didn't have any real weaknesses.

The supras you're referring to are from 1993 to 1998 in the US, while in Japan and other countries i believe it went on further.
The twin turbo six speed was an amazing car, and the clutch was so forgiving even though it was one of the first stickshifts i'd ever driven, i never stalled in it. Plus, the stock internals on that engine could handle upwards of 700horsepower (rumored to handle more, but i'm leaving it at 700 to be safe).

Chevy is bringing what looks like a Murano truck to the states sometime in 09 supposedly. I'm just scared minitruck fanatics will put it on a shitty airbag suspension and then slam the rear and raise the front so they can throw sparks like a bunch of idiots.

I was addicted to the V8 sound for a while but then the sound of the Subaru STi's got to me... lol.


Just a question,

Are you confusing the Holden Monaro with the Nissan Murano??

I remember the first time I stalled a manual, first driving lesson in a fucking yaris. Awful cars to be honest. Stiff steering wheel and the pedals were tiny. I'm 6 foot 1 and my feet cramped when I drove it.

For good cars with smaller engines you can't leave out the Ford xr6 Turbo or F6. They handle like monsters, and while not tuned to a horsepower reading high, it still performs well. I had the intention of buying a base model car *Holden VL/VK* and modding myself with a bulk lot of mods...but alas, insurance and BMW finance are devils in disguise!

EDIT : If indeed you are referring to the Holden sports utility, then you probably wont. It's just a sedan without the rear seats. I'm trying to buy a VU Maloo *HSV Variant of the model*.

There are alot of sites out there who have done bulk mods on utes, like here in WA Eddy Tassone,


Lol i stand corrected. i was mixing it up with the Holden truck... i'm tempted to say the Ute... but the nose/grille is totally different... and it's not the SS-V HSV either. ...damn half-assed news articles. Now i'm embarrassed, lol.

and actually i could leave out the Ford xr6 because i have yet to see it or any variant in the states, lol. They don't even have the EGT-Cosworth over here.

Thanks again for correcting me.


Yeah, its cool, I was thinking for a second "Murano?? Nissan and GM??"

But yeah, its actually going to be a VE SS Ute. The SS-V was indeed a concept but now the V is the top class. We get SS and SSV.



Is this what you were talking about??


haha! yep that's the one... only the grille was jet black with a center divider line making it look like a kidney grille without the chrome. Saw it in a GenroQ advertisement.
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Thats a Pontiac GTO front. You can easily order multiple styles for VE's now. If ya want some more info on the car and some of the ones that have been modded riding around my area just ask me. I know that the Performance Shop who modded our Monaro have a Twin Turbo LS2 VE R8 that pretty much destroys most cars on the road atm, they do some stellar work with the LS engine range.

Should be getting a ute myself soon, I'll put some pics up when I get it.
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