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Should Prostitution be legal in the U.S.
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crazykl45 wrote:
There's an age minimum and an age limit for a prostitute. What happens to them when they can't work anymore?

They're on their own (and generally the state protects those who are under 18 with certain benefits), and the one's who are legal will out-business the under-age prostitute. You kill two birds with one stone.


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Then you have to keep in mind there will still be pimps out there in the world, peddling girls.
Pimps only exist because they have the connections and facilities for prostitution business. Make it legal and prostitution bars can work on their own. Ex: Amsterdam


crazykl45 wrote:
All legalization will do is to give these guys the right to advertise out in the open and try to expand their market, the right to recruit more girls, and ability to use them for profit without regard for their well being.

Or or, they can work by themselves or under a decent boss since they can now legally pull lawsuits on them for bad business practice.


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What would happen if a pimp did have a prositute who caught an STD? Would she get treated under an "employee health plan" or would she get dumped out on the streets since she can't work anymore?

If it's legalized, prostitution would have a strict health requirement that requires consistent testing. In addition, it would force customers certain requirements like condoms. In other words, you curb the chances of STD spreading through protocols. If they get an STD that cannot be cured, then yes, she would be fired from her job. If she gets an STD, then yes, she would be removed from the facility. You don't bring an employee into a construction zone after he breaks his arm do you?

Proof that legal structures protocols work:
In Kenya, where the importance of chancroid in HIV transmission was first described in the late 1980s, interventions targeting sex workers and STD patients were implemented. Reported condom use by sex workers has since increased to over 80% in project areas and the incidence of genital ulcers has declined. Chancroid, once the most common ulcer etiology, now accounts for fewer than 10% of genital ulcers seen in clinics in Nairobi, Kenya.

In Senegal, HIV prevalence among pregnant women has been below 1% for more than a decade. A strong multisectoral response, an effective STD control programme and early legalization of prostitution have been credited for this low level. Special clinical services, for example, offer regular examination and treatment for registered sex workers. Not only has there been a significant decline in STD rates among sex workers and pregnant women between 1991 and 1996, but genital ulcers are also no longer common and chancroid is reportedly rare. (Steen, 2001)

Health plan? Maybe.


crazykl45 wrote:
All of the basic employee protections that people enjoy probably couldn't exist for these women, in spite of the fact that they'd be some of the more vulnerable employees out there.

Sure they can. Look at the legalized prostitution business in Amsterdam and see how well they're doing. They're not vulnerable either.
And what do you think prostitutes prefer? Working under pimps who are not limited by any law because they don't follow it or following some proper prostitution business with probably more consistent income of money and business with certain rights and safety issues that workers/customers must follow.


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Lastly, this isn't the same thing as gay marriage. Couples who decide to live together, maybe even adopt kids, and contribute to the community can't even be compared to pimps making a living off of selling someone else's body. This is bad analogy which shouldn't have ever been made.

You're dumb if you can't understand the reasoning behind the analogy.


Although as long as conservative bitches exist in the US, legalizing prostitution will not work because it can't be half-assed by rejections and limitations imposed by the conservative lawmakers.
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There are some parts in U.S.
that prostitution is legal.
But, I don't think it should be.
It just wrong,
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makix wrote:


crazykl45 wrote:
There's an age minimum and an age limit for a prostitute. What happens to them when they can't work anymore?

They're on their own (and generally the state protects those who are under 18 with certain benefits), and the one's who are legal will out-business the under-age prostitute. You kill two birds with one stone.


crazykl45 wrote:
Then you have to keep in mind there will still be pimps out there in the world, peddling girls.
Pimps only exist because they have the connections and facilities for prostitution business. Make it legal and prostitution bars can work on their own. Ex: Amsterdam


crazykl45 wrote:
All legalization will do is to give these guys the right to advertise out in the open and try to expand their market, the right to recruit more girls, and ability to use them for profit without regard for their well being.

Or or, they can work by themselves or under a decent boss since they can now legally pull lawsuits on them for bad business practice.


crazykl45 wrote:
What would happen if a pimp did have a prositute who caught an STD? Would she get treated under an "employee health plan" or would she get dumped out on the streets since she can't work anymore?

If it's legalized, prostitution would have a strict health requirement that requires consistent testing. In addition, it would force customers certain requirements like condoms. In other words, you curb the chances of STD spreading through protocols. If they get an STD that cannot be cured, then yes, she would be fired from her job. If she gets an STD, then yes, she would be removed from the facility. You don't bring an employee into a construction zone after he breaks his arm do you?

Proof that legal structures protocols work:
In Kenya, where the importance of chancroid in HIV transmission was first described in the late 1980s, interventions targeting sex workers and STD patients were implemented. Reported condom use by sex workers has since increased to over 80% in project areas and the incidence of genital ulcers has declined. Chancroid, once the most common ulcer etiology, now accounts for fewer than 10% of genital ulcers seen in clinics in Nairobi, Kenya.

In Senegal, HIV prevalence among pregnant women has been below 1% for more than a decade. A strong multisectoral response, an effective STD control programme and early legalization of prostitution have been credited for this low level. Special clinical services, for example, offer regular examination and treatment for registered sex workers. Not only has there been a significant decline in STD rates among sex workers and pregnant women between 1991 and 1996, but genital ulcers are also no longer common and chancroid is reportedly rare. (Steen, 2001)

Health plan? Maybe.


crazykl45 wrote:
All of the basic employee protections that people enjoy probably couldn't exist for these women, in spite of the fact that they'd be some of the more vulnerable employees out there.

Sure they can. Look at the legalized prostitution business in Amsterdam and see how well they're doing. They're not vulnerable either.
And what do you think prostitutes prefer? Working under pimps who are not limited by any law because they don't follow it or following some proper prostitution business with probably more consistent income of money and business with certain rights and safety issues that workers/customers must follow.


crazykl45 wrote:
Lastly, this isn't the same thing as gay marriage. Couples who decide to live together, maybe even adopt kids, and contribute to the community can't even be compared to pimps making a living off of selling someone else's body. This is bad analogy which shouldn't have ever been made.

You're dumb if you can't understand the reasoning behind the analogy.


Although as long as conservative bitches exist in the US, legalizing prostitution will not work because it can't be half-assed by rejections and limitations imposed by the conservative lawmakers.


I have to agree with you Makix thanks to you I did not have to say a word to that person.

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I don't like the concept of prostitution. However if given a chance to vote on, I would approve its legality.

First, a weak argument yet nonetheless valid, it is done everywhere regardless of legality.
If it were made legal, it would be permitted with certain regulations in place, shifting and encouraging the others into that routine. With it currently being fully illegal, it is likely going to be attached to other things fully illegal, like cocaine. If it were legal, there'd be less encouragement to throw in other illegal matters (much like movies that are bound to be rated R, they generally figure there's no reason to not additionally throw in nudity, no matter how irrelevant it is to plot development).

Besides ... I don't want to say it, but ... I think it would contribute well to the state of the economy.
Posted 7/15/09 , edited 7/15/09
Not at all, exploiting the physiological needs of one is just as bad as anything else that promotes self-destruction (such as smoking). Screw enough people in a short period of time without protection and you're bound to get a disease. On top of that, most of these STDs take up to 6 months to show up. By then, a prostitute has probably passed it on to a hundred people if not more...

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Not only that, males have a 30% of contracting an STD from an infected partner while females have a %70 chance. And it is well known that a great majority of females are prostitutes because they have the ability to manipulate men. Even though a male has less of a chance, a female prostitute is almost guaranteed to contract a disease from whoever it is that is infected so that alone increases the chances of her passing it on because she is screwing so many others...
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it's basically that if the government tried to legalized prostitution, it will reflect how US can lowly be on a global scale. What are we trying to prevent here is the spread of AIDS, STD, gonorrea etc. even if the guy wears his condoms it's not guranteed that he will be entirely safe, there will be still 1-3% that the condom will break or slip-off and how it can affect the young. look what happened to NV now, My moms friend said that 60% High school teens who live there have tried sex, It's not an accurate number,but where did he learn the right number when he was living there for like 2 years? it's simple he got it from the locals, I do also remember he said a funny short story about me that a mom was asking her daughter after going to school and the mother asked: did you bring a condom?daughter replies: yes mom!,then goes to school. He too simply get it from the locals. now for the claim, what will happened to San Francisco if locals says the funny stories?. It will simply reflect on the city itself. Well at least most of us know how lowly can be a prostitute can be right?. Either if it helps the economy or not it's still not the best solution
Posted 7/16/09


I actually agree with these people xD Despite my age and me being female, (If that has anything to do with the point, really >.>) I think it's better that if they made the choice themselves then it's there choice, etc.

And in a positive light, it gives people new options for jobs and might save a few people from just being raped out on the streets 8D

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Not at all, exploiting the physiological needs of one is just as bad as anything else that promotes self-destruction (such as smoking). Screw enough people in a short period of time without protection and you're bound to get a disease. On top of that, most of these STDs take up to 6 months to show up. By then, a prostitute has probably passed it on to a hundred people if not more...

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Not only that, males have a 30% of contracting an STD from an infected partner while females have a %70 chance. And it is well known that a great majority of females are prostitutes because they have the ability to manipulate men. Even though a male has less of a chance, a female prostitute is almost guaranteed to contract a disease from whoever it is that is infected so that alone increases the chances of her passing it on because she is screwing so many others...


Well in many European nations prostitution is legal. They require prostitutes to get checked out and wear protection. Only after every participant’s health is verified can the action actually take place. In other words, you’re more likely to get sick buying a burger at McDonald’s than you are hooking up with a whore in Germany. Why should America not emulate Europe’s success and slow the spread of HIV? This would save hundreds of thousands if not millions of lives every year.

Also, research shows that regular sexual intercourse is actually good for the health. It boosts the immune system, strengthens the heart and lungs, and has various other physiological benefits unique to each gender. Sex can be a natural sleep aid and pain reliever for women, for example.

And if the prostitution were made legal and clean, there would be no ‘preying,’ on anybody. It would all be consensual, no different than sex without the exchange of money involved. I find it funny that porn is legal but whoring is not.

Sex is a beautiful thing. It’s not ugly and shouldn’t be taboo. This is a religious virus. If we can boost the economy, protect hundreds of thousands of women, create thousands of jobs, force the sex industry out of business by providing consumers with a superior/safer/more humanitarian/cheaper/socially acceptable alternative, and save millions of lives all at the same time there’s absolutely no reason we should not do it.
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illincrux wrote:

Not at all, exploiting the physiological needs of one is just as bad as anything else that promotes self-destruction (such as smoking). Screw enough people in a short period of time without protection and you're bound to get a disease. On top of that, most of these STDs take up to 6 months to show up. By then, a prostitute has probably passed it on to a hundred people if not more...

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Not only that, males have a 30% of contracting an STD from an infected partner while females have a %70 chance. And it is well known that a great majority of females are prostitutes because they have the ability to manipulate men. Even though a male has less of a chance, a female prostitute is almost guaranteed to contract a disease from whoever it is that is infected so that alone increases the chances of her passing it on because she is screwing so many others...


Well in many European nations prostitution is legal. They require prostitutes to get checked out and wear protection. Only after every participant’s health is verified can the action actually take place. In other words, you’re more likely to get sick buying a burger at McDonald’s than you are hooking up with a whore in Germany. Why should America not emulate Europe’s success and slow the spread of HIV? This would save hundreds of thousands if not millions of lives every year.

Also, research shows that regular sexual intercourse is actually good for the health. It boosts the immune system, strengthens the heart and lungs, and has various other physiological benefits unique to each gender. Sex can be a natural sleep aid and pain reliever for women, for example.

And if the prostitution were made legal and clean, there would be no ‘preying,’ on anybody. It would all be consensual, no different than sex without the exchange of money involved. I find it funny that porn is legal but whoring is not.

Sex is a beautiful thing. It’s not ugly and shouldn’t be taboo. This is a religious virus. If we can boost the economy, protect hundreds of thousands of women, create thousands of jobs, force the sex industry out of business by providing consumers with a superior/safer/more humanitarian/cheaper/socially acceptable alternative, and save millions of lives all at the same time there’s absolutely no reason we should not do it.


Well have fun bringing that up to the state, although I do believe it is legal in Nevada, and they have to get checked out and all that good stuff, seems to work for them, don't see why it wouldn't work for the rest of us. Not exactly a bad idea. Although if you tried to get it legalized enjoy the resulting bombardment you'd receive from religious groups. But can't hurt to try.
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it is in nevada, maybe it'll be like gay marriage and one state will break the mold and others will follow lol
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Well have fun bringing that up to the state, although I do believe it is legal in Nevada, and they have to get checked out and all that good stuff, seems to work for them, don't see why it wouldn't work for the rest of us. Not exactly a bad idea. Although if you tried to get it legalized enjoy the resulting bombardment you'd receive from religious groups. But can't hurt to try.


I think it’s absurd. We’re fine with legalizing history’s greatest holocaust but gay marriage, prostitution--things that can bring people plenty of happiness without subjecting anyone? Hell no, that's not Christian.
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Well have fun bringing that up to the state, although I do believe it is legal in Nevada, and they have to get checked out and all that good stuff, seems to work for them, don't see why it wouldn't work for the rest of us. Not exactly a bad idea. Although if you tried to get it legalized enjoy the resulting bombardment you'd receive from religious groups. But can't hurt to try.


I think it’s absurd. We’re fine with legalizing history’s greatest holocaust but gay marriage, prostitution--things that can bring people plenty of happiness without subjecting anyone? Hell no, that's not Christian.


Maybe instead of a holocaust against the jews we should do a holocaust against the homophobic christains. give em a taste of their own medicine so to speak. Sound fun ?

Gay marriage doesn't hurt anyone, it's legal in other countries and they do perfectly fine, nothings happened to them. Same with hookers, some countries have legalized it, again worked fine for them. I see nothing wrong with either. I say legalize both of em. But that's just me apparently.
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Maybe instead of a holocaust against the jews we should do a holocaust against the homophobic christains. give em a taste of their own medicine so to speak. Sound fun ?

Gay marriage doesn't hurt anyone, it's legal in other countries and they do perfectly fine, nothings happened to them. Same with hookers, some countries have legalized it, again worked fine for them. I see nothing wrong with either. I say legalize both of em. But that's just me apparently.


Well, the world would probably be better without Christians but a genocidal campaign never helped anything. But, I do have an alternate solution. I say we take all the Jihadic Muslims, Zionist Jews, and skin head Christians and lock them all up in a room and let them ‘resolve their differences.’
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Maybe instead of a holocaust against the jews we should do a holocaust against the homophobic christains. give em a taste of their own medicine so to speak. Sound fun ?

Gay marriage doesn't hurt anyone, it's legal in other countries and they do perfectly fine, nothings happened to them. Same with hookers, some countries have legalized it, again worked fine for them. I see nothing wrong with either. I say legalize both of em. But that's just me apparently.


Well, the world would probably be better without Christians but a genocidal campaign never helped anything. But, I do have an alternate solution. I say we take all the Jihadic Muslims, Zionist Jews, and skin head Christians and lock them all up in a room and let them ‘resolve their differences.’


Awesome, Big room tho. Do we give them weapons ? Like edged weapons, those are more fun than projectile based weapons. How about just putting them all on an island together ?
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i need to make sure that we are on the same language game first.
when i hear about the term "prostitution," everything that comes to my mind is girls ages 12 and above offering sexual intercourse for pay.
Then if that's the case, it should be not legalized.

but if the govt set rules and regulations or laws before a girl can offer her body, then i think legalization is possible.
Of course, government must control or moderate this type of "business"
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