Post Reply
Favorite
The Nation of Israel and Palestine
|
|
|
hi wassup!
|
|
|
Can someone please explain how can people of Israel be a race? I see "racism" here mentioned, so I just want to know.
|
|
unintelligent mode - ON
|
|
|
blancer wrote: Can someone please explain how can people of Israel be a race? I see "racism" here mentioned, so I just want to know. The issue is mainly because Israel is a majority Jewish state, the country is also a home-state for Jews. Some people see Israel=Jews, yet they have a 17% Muslim Arab population that lives in peace with them and has all rights given to them too. And the wall around Gaza was for Israel's protection, suicide bombers kept running into Israel killing innocent civilians. After they built the wall terrorism dropped. and it made Israel safer. Besides, Egypt built a wall on it's Gaza border too, how come no one talks about that? |
|
Wrote a note :D check my pages if you wanna read it!
|
|
|
Yei What do you mean by "the Jewish people"? Norman may have something against Israel and Israelis that continue to implement horrible policies. The same way someone would be against the US and all it has done, it's not racial. "The Jewish people" is not specific enough, that's an entire race of people, they are not all the same. Norman is not stupid enough to have hate for an entire race of people, he is pretty well-educated. Obviously Norman has had trouble with his career, he openly criticizes Israel. He was banned from Israel too, for the same reason. Right, so Norman Finkelstein never does anything wrong. He was only fired from these major universities because he verbally disagrees with his fellow faculty members. It’s all because they’re ignorant and narrow minded and can’t stand to see somebody ‘speak the truth.’ I call Norman Finkelstein an anti-Semite, it’s just because he criticizes Israel. Even though I actually made a thread defending Carter from anti-Semantic claims, and I’ve expressed how stupid I think the same accusations against Obama are, it’s just because I’m criticizing Norman. Don’t you see that what you’re doing here is also employing a typical scapegoat? Any time Norman does anything and we say, ‘hey, that’s wrong/dishonest/racist,’ we’re just criticizing him because we’re, what, Zionist agents? Norman Finkelstein is racist. His own words have convinced me that he’s racist. Yes, this racism is idiotic. But despite your apparent educational elitist ideology, educated individuals can be racist too. It’s not just for us lowly, ignorant Americans. |
|
“Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could...
|
|
|
SeraphAlford wrote: Yei What do you mean by "the Jewish people"? Norman may have something against Israel and Israelis that continue to implement horrible policies. The same way someone would be against the US and all it has done, it's not racial. "The Jewish people" is not specific enough, that's an entire race of people, they are not all the same. Norman is not stupid enough to have hate for an entire race of people, he is pretty well-educated. Obviously Norman has had trouble with his career, he openly criticizes Israel. He was banned from Israel too, for the same reason. Right, so Norman Finkelstein never does anything wrong. He was only fired from these major universities because he verbally disagrees with his fellow faculty members. It’s all because they’re ignorant and narrow minded and can’t stand to see somebody ‘speak the truth.’ I call Norman Finkelstein an anti-Semite, it’s just because he criticizes Israel. Even though I actually made a thread defending Carter from anti-Semantic claims, and I’ve expressed how stupid I think the same accusations against Obama are, it’s just because I’m criticizing Norman. Don’t you see that what you’re doing here is also employing a typical scapegoat? Any time Norman does anything and we say, ‘hey, that’s wrong/dishonest/racist,’ we’re just criticizing him because we’re, what, Zionist agents? Norman Finkelstein is racist. His own words have convinced me that he’s racist. Yes, this racism is idiotic. But despite your apparent educational elitist ideology, educated individuals can be racist too. It’s not just for us lowly, ignorant Americans. Norman Finkelstein is one of the most prominent, respectable and brave scholars on the Israel/Palestine conflict, and the only reason you think he's an anti-Semite is because you don't like his political views. He is definitely not racist, but actually has a much higher level of morality than the people who've put their religion or ethnicity in front of their morality. Noam Chomsky explains how Alan Dershowitz was the reason behind Norman getting denied tenure and being attacked, here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5mEZLjEX-A&feature=channel It's a book he wrote that he didn't like. Noam Chomsky also has pretty strong views on the Israel/Palestine conflict, what do you think of him? |
|
|
|
|
Yei Norman Finkelstein is one of the most prominent, respectable and brave scholars on the Israel/Palestine conflict, and the only reason you think he's an anti-Semite is because you don't like his political views. He is definitely not racist, but actually has a much higher level of morality than the people who've put their religion or ethnicity in front of their morality. Noam Chomsky explains how Alan Dershowitz was the reason behind Norman getting denied tenure and being attacked, here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5mEZLjEX-A&feature=channel It's a book he wrote that he didn't like. Noam Chomsky also has pretty strong views on the Israel/Palestine conflict, what do you think of him? Well, this just got pointless. I’m disappointed in you. |
|
“Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could...
|
|
|
SeraphAlford wrote: Yei Norman Finkelstein is one of the most prominent, respectable and brave scholars on the Israel/Palestine conflict, and the only reason you think he's an anti-Semite is because you don't like his political views. He is definitely not racist, but actually has a much higher level of morality than the people who've put their religion or ethnicity in front of their morality. Noam Chomsky explains how Alan Dershowitz was the reason behind Norman getting denied tenure and being attacked, here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5mEZLjEX-A&feature=channel It's a book he wrote that he didn't like. Noam Chomsky also has pretty strong views on the Israel/Palestine conflict, what do you think of him? Well, this just got pointless. I’m disappointed in you. The entire argument was pointless, because it's just ridiculous. There's no basis for your accusations, so why should they even be taken seriously? You're convinced he's a racist, and I'm convinced you just don't like his political views so you twist them in a way so that you can make silly accusations. I think his views are great and that he's brave for being so open about them. Now, are Noam Chomsky and Raul Hilberg also anti-Semites? Because they both give Norman 100% support and agree with his views. So they must be anti-Semites as well? |
|
|
|
|
Yei The entire argument was pointless, because it's just ridiculous. There's no basis for your accusations, so why should they even be taken seriously? You're convinced he's a racist, and I'm convinced you just don't like his political views so you twist them in a way so that you can make silly accusations. I think his views are great and that he's brave for being so open about them. Now, are Noam Chomsky and Raul Hilberg also anti-Semites? Because they both give Norman 100% support and agree with his views. So they must be anti-Semites as well? Well, if they agree with Norman when he says that the Jewish people are thieves then yes. I’d say that’s an anti-Semantic opinion. |
|
“Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could...
|
|
|
|
|
“Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could...
|
|
|
If you look at Norman and with his intelligence who would dare go to a debate against him and expect to win? Hmm he is a Jew whose parents are holocaust survivors. So basically if you dont have your facts straight all you can resort to is Ad hominem attacks. Thats how the media does everyone especially on Fox. You trash their character and argue with them rather then refute the facts. So far I havent found any good refuting that goes against Norman but just attacks on his character so you wouldnt have to or you know that you cannot do it. I always kept up with Norman and I have never heard any type of Anti-Semitism from him at all. I am sorry to say but only a fool or a weak hearted individual who watches his debates and reads his books find anything hatefull towards jews. If anything all he does is criticize Israel and the USA/Israel doesnt like that. So they try to throw him into the rest of the false accused anti-semites so people wouldnt learn the truth.
I mean gosh if this wasnt true I wouldnt be sitting here typing this. But the fact that everytime you see someone have a little defence for the Palestinian people the media pundits are angered. You right a good book you get labeled. Did anyone see how these two Harvard Professors are now labled anti-semites.by John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen M. Walt called the The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy which exposes AIPAC and its influence in American foreign policy. Ridiculous peoples brains cannot distinguish criticizing Israel actions and the Jewish religion. Yei was right for calling these people brave because as John J. Mearsheimer said he already knew that going into this taboo topic would automatically label him an anti-semite. They how the ADL works and all these other twisted groups trying to silence any information that can be harmful to Israel. But as brave politicians who care about their country they speak up about it. They speak up about how Israel really isnt the soft, kind friendly country as you see her to be. They speak the truth about their influence in this country and how other politicians are afraid just because of this label anti-semitism. They are trying to wake you up so we can get rid of all the damn corruption. |
|
Lol this website is slowly turning into another myspace/facebook.
|
|
|
I found an interesting article regarding summer camps in Gaza. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,534938,00.html. It's nice to know that their values are being taught over the summer by having fun activities that teach children how to kidnap people
|
|
Wrote a note :D check my pages if you wanna read it!
|
|
|
digs wrote: I found an interesting article regarding summer camps in Gaza. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,534938,00.html. It's nice to know that their values are being taught over the summer by having fun activities that teach children how to kidnap people :) meh not really suprised |
|
happy hoildays everyone desu
|
|
|
digs wrote: I found an interesting article regarding summer camps in Gaza. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,534938,00.html. It's nice to know that their values are being taught over the summer by having fun activities that teach children how to kidnap people :) This is really why I’m so skeptical about this, “they’re only fighting because of Israel,” business. Watching Palestinian media, looking at the content of the school books and religious programs, all of this suggests to me that it’s more brainwashing than desperation. |
|
“Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could...
|
|
|
SeraphAlford wrote: digs wrote: I found an interesting article regarding summer camps in Gaza. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,534938,00.html. It's nice to know that their values are being taught over the summer by having fun activities that teach children how to kidnap people :) This is really why I’m so skeptical about this, “they’re only fighting because of Israel,” business. Watching Palestinian media, looking at the content of the school books and religious programs, all of this suggests to me that it’s more brainwashing than desperation. Obviously it's brainwashing, people all over the world are brainwashed to have their parents' beliefs. |
|
|
|
|
Yei Obviously it's brainwashing, people all over the world are brainwashed to have their parents' beliefs. We already had that discussion, but in this case I mean brainwashing in the sense of North Korea where even if your parents raise you to do one thing your publically taught to do what the state wants. In North Korea they teach their children math by saying, “If I throw a grenade and kill two Americans, and then throw another and kill three, how many Americans have I killed?” Now, to be fair Palestine is not as bad as North Korea by a long shot. Still, when you have your children growing up watching Fanfur the Mouse on television and he becomes their version of barney, then you announced “Fanfur was killed by Jews,” and then you teach your children to murder, torture, and launch terror attacks against the Jews the result is inexorable. |
|
“Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could...
|
Videos |
Popular Free Anime |
Community |
Support |
Premium Services |
Partnerships |
Crunchyroll |