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^Western Bias of course. The media is favourably bias towards Israel.
Not to mention that Hamas is a terrorist organization and lets not forget that Americans have become suspicious of people of middle eastern descent due to 911. |
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Real_ZERO wrote: digs wrote: I found an interesting article regarding summer camps in Gaza. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,534938,00.html. It's nice to know that their values are being taught over the summer by having fun activities that teach children how to kidnap people :) source: The Jerusalem Post ** Spoiler Alert!!! click to hide or show** Gaza campers stage 'Schalit abduction' Children in Hamas summer camps reenacted the abduction of IDF soldier Gilad Schalit in the presence of top Hamas officials, according to pictures obtained by The Jerusalem Post. ![]() Label: Palestinian children, dressed as IDF soldiers and holding toy guns, reenact the abduction of Gilad Schalit. According to Israeli defense officials, more than 120,000 Palestinian children are spending the summer in Hamas-run camps. In addition to religious studies, the children undergo semi-military training with toy guns. At a recent summer camp graduation ceremony, the children put on a show reenacting the June 2006 abduction of Schalit. Present was Osama Mazini, a senior Hamas political leader, who is in charge of the Schalit negotiations with Israel on behalf of the terrorist group. In one picture, obtained by the Post, Mazini is seen standing next to Ahmad Bahar, the acting speaker of the Palestinian Legislative Council, distributing Korans to camp counselors. "This sends a message," one Israeli defense official said, regarding Mazini's participation at the ceremony. "This is Hamas's way of showing Palestinian children that kidnapping soldiers is the correct way of life." In contrast to the Hamas summer camps, the United Nations has been running summer games throughout the Gaza Strip for 240,000 children. These games, run by UNRWA, are being held at over 150 locations. The participants are mostly between the ages of six and 15 and engage in sports, arts and crafts, swimming and other cultural activities. ![]() label: Osama Mazini (left), head of the Schalit negotiations for Hamas, at summer camp ceremony. Last week, senior Hamas official Dr. Younes al-Istal told Al-Arabiya TV the UNRWA summer camps were part of a plan to corrupt the younger generation and prepare it for normalization with Israel. Ahead of the summer, the Coordinator of Government Activities in the Territories allowed UNRWA to transfer truckloads of camp equipment - including inflatable swimming pools, toys, spray paint and musical instruments - into the Gaza Strip. Well, the report states "according to pictures obtained by The Jerusalem Post" Where are the pictures? What I can see from the first picture is a play performed by Palestinian children. The label says "Palestinian children, dressed as IDF soldiers and holding toy guns a reenact the abduction of Gilad Shalit" wait a min.. Were IDF soldiers the one who abducted Shalit? Wasn't he abducted while he was on a tank? Or please don't tell me Shalit's matter will be like holocaust issue, in every speech even if it's unrelated. The other picture shows distributing Quran to counselors, what's the problem here? So since this report is based on pictures, Can anybody tell me "What these pictures have to do with Gilad Shalit?" or even "Where is the teaching of "how to kidnap people"" or "the finer points of kidnapping." as Fox added? Otherwise, this report is a load of bunk no wonder fox liked it . Whatever, I bet Palestinian children or any children in their case wouldn't need Hamas or whoever to brainwash them, they just react to what they're going through, Israel only reap what she sow. What if they were the follow soldiers with the one IDF soldier? The fact is that Hamas is a hateful group, Palestinians are largely not peaceful people. They are teaching them to kidnap Jews, and it doesn't surprise me considering on children's shows they teach them to be martyrs for Palestine and Islam by joining Hamas or suicide bombing Israelis that are living in their motherland that really isn't theirs. It looks to me in the picture that the kids dressed as Israeli soldiers are out killing Palestinians (with the one kid on the floor) and destroying things (the other stomping on toys). It looks like they are trying to make the IDF look evil. There is no problem with distributing the Quran to counselors, but when it's to Hamas leaders you know it will be used and spun to fit a wicked ideology and a hate of Israelis. If I were a Muslim I would be disgusted by the fact that they are using the Quran for that purpose. The report isn't based on pictures, they didn't see a photo and make up a story around it. How else would they get the information that almost 120,000 Palestinian children will be at these camps. This isn't a new discovery, and it's the truth that Hamas is running these camps to indoctrinate children into terrorism. These monsters are trying to indoctrinate children... that's just sick. @Zebacly- actually, the world doesn't support Israel. Europe is becoming more and more against Israel because they are weak. Also, there are very few countries that have supported Israel, here is a list of those in the UN who support Israel generally speaking United States Marshall Islands Palau Micronesia Nauru Australia Canada Tuvalu Israel has many enemies and there is much racism against them, They aren't evil and they don't preform evil things. The nation of Israel isn't bent on evil like Palestine and other Arab nations are. The fact is that you can't blame someone for your actions. If someone punches me it is still my fault and my problem if I pick up a gun and shoot him. The truth is that Hamas is evil, the Palestinians are generally racist towards Israel and very oppressive to each other. Did you know that Hamas slaughtered fellow Palestinians a few years ago in order to achieve political power? Israel isn't the one going in and killing innocents, it's Hamas and it has been proven that they did it out of malice fo their own people who didn't support them. The poverty is Hamas' fault. The spend most of their money on military expediters in order to target innocent Israeli civilians. They fund terrorism and spend their money smuggling weapons from Egypt over to Gaza. They don't spend money on food, aid, necessities, or anything else. The UN, Israel, and the US are the prime contributers to the charity sent to Gaza and if it wasn't for Israel, the US, and the UN, Gaza would be far worse off. In fact, Hamas attacked the UN and stole important aid supplies so that they could be the ones giving it to the people in order to make themselves look good. I would encourage you to check out this site http://www.palestinemediawatch.com/. It exposes Palestinian racism, terrorism, and indoctrination within their own media. Israel is not evil, Hamas is. |
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** Spoiler Alert!!! click to hide or show** digs wrote: Real_ZERO wrote: digs wrote: I found an interesting article regarding summer camps in Gaza. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,534938,00.html. It's nice to know that their values are being taught over the summer by having fun activities that teach children how to kidnap people :) source: The Jerusalem Post ** Spoiler Alert!!! click to hide or show** Gaza campers stage 'Schalit abduction' Children in Hamas summer camps reenacted the abduction of IDF soldier Gilad Schalit in the presence of top Hamas officials, according to pictures obtained by The Jerusalem Post. ![]() Label: Palestinian children, dressed as IDF soldiers and holding toy guns, reenact the abduction of Gilad Schalit. According to Israeli defense officials, more than 120,000 Palestinian children are spending the summer in Hamas-run camps. In addition to religious studies, the children undergo semi-military training with toy guns. At a recent summer camp graduation ceremony, the children put on a show reenacting the June 2006 abduction of Schalit. Present was Osama Mazini, a senior Hamas political leader, who is in charge of the Schalit negotiations with Israel on behalf of the terrorist group. In one picture, obtained by the Post, Mazini is seen standing next to Ahmad Bahar, the acting speaker of the Palestinian Legislative Council, distributing Korans to camp counselors. "This sends a message," one Israeli defense official said, regarding Mazini's participation at the ceremony. "This is Hamas's way of showing Palestinian children that kidnapping soldiers is the correct way of life." In contrast to the Hamas summer camps, the United Nations has been running summer games throughout the Gaza Strip for 240,000 children. These games, run by UNRWA, are being held at over 150 locations. The participants are mostly between the ages of six and 15 and engage in sports, arts and crafts, swimming and other cultural activities. ![]() label: Osama Mazini (left), head of the Schalit negotiations for Hamas, at summer camp ceremony. Last week, senior Hamas official Dr. Younes al-Istal told Al-Arabiya TV the UNRWA summer camps were part of a plan to corrupt the younger generation and prepare it for normalization with Israel. Ahead of the summer, the Coordinator of Government Activities in the Territories allowed UNRWA to transfer truckloads of camp equipment - including inflatable swimming pools, toys, spray paint and musical instruments - into the Gaza Strip. Well, the report states "according to pictures obtained by The Jerusalem Post" Where are the pictures? What I can see from the first picture is a play performed by Palestinian children. The label says "Palestinian children, dressed as IDF soldiers and holding toy guns a reenact the abduction of Gilad Shalit" wait a min.. Were IDF soldiers the one who abducted Shalit? Wasn't he abducted while he was on a tank? Or please don't tell me Shalit's matter will be like holocaust issue, in every speech even if it's unrelated. The other picture shows distributing Quran to counselors, what's the problem here? So since this report is based on pictures, Can anybody tell me "What these pictures have to do with Gilad Shalit?" or even "Where is the teaching of "how to kidnap people"" or "the finer points of kidnapping." as Fox added? Otherwise, this report is a load of bunk no wonder fox liked it . Whatever, I bet Palestinian children or any children in their case wouldn't need Hamas or whoever to brainwash them, they just react to what they're going through, Israel only reap what she sow. What if they were the follow soldiers with the one IDF soldier? The fact is that Hamas is a hateful group, Palestinians are largely not peaceful people. They are teaching them to kidnap Jews, and it doesn't surprise me considering on children's shows they teach them to be martyrs for Palestine and Islam by joining Hamas or suicide bombing Israelis that are living in their motherland that really isn't theirs. It looks to me in the picture that the kids dressed as Israeli soldiers are out killing Palestinians (with the one kid on the floor) and destroying things (the other stomping on toys). It looks like they are trying to make the IDF look evil. There is no problem with distributing the Quran to counselors, but when it's to Hamas leaders you know it will be used and spun to fit a wicked ideology and a hate of Israelis. If I were a Muslim I would be disgusted by the fact that they are using the Quran for that purpose. The report isn't based on pictures, they didn't see a photo and make up a story around it. How else would they get the information that almost 120,000 Palestinian children will be at these camps. This isn't a new discovery, and it's the truth that Hamas is running these camps to indoctrinate children into terrorism. These monsters are trying to indoctrinate children... that's just sick. @Zebacly- actually, the world doesn't support Israel. Europe is becoming more and more against Israel because they are weak. Also, there are very few countries that have supported Israel, here is a list of those in the UN who support Israel generally speaking a punch ! u call that a puch ?! imagin that a foreigner killed ur family just because he owns ( or thinks that ) ur house .. Isaerl didn't even knocked the door .. i know that Hamas is bad but the Palestinians r not .. Isreal is horrible .. yes Israel killed innocent ppl .. & destroyed innocent families ! Isreal made bad acts .. also Hamas .. & say .. i didn't understand what did u mean by " isn't bent on evil like Palestine and other Arab nations " r they bent on evil ??! |
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Oedi wrote: ^Western Bias of course. The media is favourably bias towards Israel. Not to mention that Hamas is a terrorist organization and lets not forget that Americans have become suspicious of people of middle eastern descent due to 911. Reuters edited photos to exaggerate the aggression of Israel’s attack. BBC was called out by an independent television show and exposed for its anti-Israel bias. The New York Times also published fake photos slandering Israel. CNN aired pollywood scenes supposedly portraying Israeli soldiers shooting down Palestinian civilians. All have provided more coverage of the Palestinian argument than the Israeli argument. CNN even wrongly reported that Israel started the war-when in fact the war was initiated by Hamas missiles from Gaza. They were exposed by a blog called little green footballs and later investigated by other sources. 60 minutes even did an episode about it. Now, that means 60 minutes is biased in favor of Israel, doesn’t it? Well, no. They also did a show about Israeli apartheid in Westbank. Hamas is a terrorist organization, and as far as being suspicious of people of Middle Eastern Decent, you’re probably right. But let’s not forget that the Israelites are Middle Eastern too, and that on 9/11 five Israeli’s were arrested because they were of “Middle Eastern Descent,” and taking pictures of the bombing from the top of their van. Jump over to the Zeitgeist Discussion and you'll see Americans are also suspiciosu of Jews. |
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is Hamas trying to help Palestinians .. her country ..? or destroy it ? i wonder ..
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SeraphAlford wrote: Hamas is just trying to achieve its own goal, destruction of Israel. The Palestinian people are expendable if it means achieving this goal. well .. why r they wanting to destroy Israel? isn'i it to help Palestinians ? |
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Maybe, but to me it seems they don't care about the Palestinians as long as they can destroy Israel. They'd prolly like to see good things for Palestine, but they care more about seeing bad things for Israel. At least that's how it appears to me, but I cannot speak for them. |
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SeraphAlford wrote: Maybe, but to me it seems they don't care about the Palestinians as long as they can destroy Israel. They'd prolly like to see good things for Palestine, but they care more about seeing bad things for Israel. At least that's how it appears to me, but I cannot speak for them. hmm .. i see .. so how did hamas became strong ? who is supporting them |
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Hamas originated as an Islamic brotherhood. Although this group has been dedicated to the destruction of Israel since 1948 (According to the chairman of Hamas, and a Hamas election add) it was by and large a humanitarian organization. Israel and America both provided funding because of the brotherhoods dedication to relief programs in Palestine. However, once Hamas had gotten a large amount of ground level support it changed and drafted a charter calling for the execution of Jews and saying that this is an obligation of Muslims, citing the Qur’an to argue its point. Since then Hamas’ use of terror tactics on Israelis’ and Palestinians have brought it condemnation from Fatah and the PLO, many of the Palestinian people, and every nation outside of the Middle East and some within. |
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drizza wrote: Ugh Fox News source I cannot stand it but if thats true then of course it is wrong. Both sides are teaching hate I mean where do you think the Racism towards Palestinians comes from? The parents teaching it to the kids. Like I stated we are failing any real solution to this problem. As long as Palestine lives in occupation they going to hate Jews/Israelis. As long as rocket fire keeps bombarding Israel vice versa. This stuff shouldnt be a surprise and the longer this conflict last how can we ever expect these two countries to live side by side? We need someone to take an equal stance looking out for both interest rather then one over the other. It’s like Ronald Reagan said. You can’t expect Israel to put its cities within shelling distance of their enemy and go back to the 1967 borders while there’s war. But on the flip side, Israel does need to be working towards generating trust-and to some degree they have. In exchange for peace they returned the Sinai. They also gave back Gaza. But the ULTIMATE signal of peace, the best way Israel could build trust, would be to stop building new settlements, end the excess ‘check points,’ redirect their wall so that it doesn’t cut apart east Jerusalem and Westbank. But they refuse to do this, so the Palestinians go on believing Jews are menions of the anti-Christ, the war goes on, the lands not given back, and a never ending circle. |
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digs wrote: Israel has many enemies and there is much racism against them, They aren't evil and they don't preform evil things. The nation of Israel isn't bent on evil like Palestine and other Arab nations are. The fact is that you can't blame someone for your actions. If someone punches me it is still my fault and my problem if I pick up a gun and shoot him. The truth is that Hamas is evil, the Palestinians are generally racist towards Israel and very oppressive to each other. Did you know that Hamas slaughtered fellow Palestinians a few years ago in order to achieve political power? Israel isn't the one going in and killing innocents, it's Hamas and it has been proven that they did it out of malice fo their own people who didn't support them. The poverty is Hamas' fault. The spend most of their money on military expediters in order to target innocent Israeli civilians. They fund terrorism and spend their money smuggling weapons from Egypt over to Gaza. They don't spend money on food, aid, necessities, or anything else. The UN, Israel, and the US are the prime contributers to the charity sent to Gaza and if it wasn't for Israel, the US, and the UN, Gaza would be far worse off. In fact, Hamas attacked the UN and stole important aid supplies so that they could be the ones giving it to the people in order to make themselves look good. I would encourage you to check out this site http://www.palestinemediawatch.com/. It exposes Palestinian racism, terrorism, and indoctrination within their own media. Israel is not evil, Hamas is. That link obviously made by Israeli or whoever support Israel. Always refer to genuine website. and please give your post space like what I did above, so it'll be easier for us to read. Ever heard Veteran soldiers of Israel, this is their confession of what evil action happening in Gaza, reported by BBC UK http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8151336.stm And the testimony which all of them been rejected by Israel. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8151611.stm Palestinians killed during Israeli military offensive in Gaza, 27 Dec to 18 Jan - Palestinian claims followed by Israelis claims: Total dead: 1,434 / 1,166 Fighters: 235 / 710-870 Non-combatants: 906 / 295-460 Women: 121 / 49 Children under 16: 288 / 89 Sources: Palestinian Center for Human Rights and Israeli Defence Intelligence Research Dept. And who ignores America for building more houses in Palestine's terrtory? http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2008/03/mil-080331-rianovosti05.htm http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090719/wl_mideast_afp/mideastdiplomacyisraelussettlerjerusalem_20090719143232 http://current.com/items/90473348_again-israel-ignores-obama-administration.htm (Ignoring Obama's administration) From youtube : Cruel but Necessary: Opinions in Jerusalem about the Settlements and Obama |
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** Spoiler Alert!!! click to hide or show** digs wrote: Real_ZERO wrote: digs wrote: I found an interesting article regarding summer camps in Gaza. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,534938,00.html. It's nice to know that their values are being taught over the summer by having fun activities that teach children how to kidnap people :) source: The Jerusalem Post ** Spoiler Alert!!! click to hide or show** Gaza campers stage 'Schalit abduction' Children in Hamas summer camps reenacted the abduction of IDF soldier Gilad Schalit in the presence of top Hamas officials, according to pictures obtained by The Jerusalem Post. ![]() Label: Palestinian children, dressed as IDF soldiers and holding toy guns, reenact the abduction of Gilad Schalit. According to Israeli defense officials, more than 120,000 Palestinian children are spending the summer in Hamas-run camps. In addition to religious studies, the children undergo semi-military training with toy guns. At a recent summer camp graduation ceremony, the children put on a show reenacting the June 2006 abduction of Schalit. Present was Osama Mazini, a senior Hamas political leader, who is in charge of the Schalit negotiations with Israel on behalf of the terrorist group. In one picture, obtained by the Post, Mazini is seen standing next to Ahmad Bahar, the acting speaker of the Palestinian Legislative Council, distributing Korans to camp counselors. "This sends a message," one Israeli defense official said, regarding Mazini's participation at the ceremony. "This is Hamas's way of showing Palestinian children that kidnapping soldiers is the correct way of life." In contrast to the Hamas summer camps, the United Nations has been running summer games throughout the Gaza Strip for 240,000 children. These games, run by UNRWA, are being held at over 150 locations. The participants are mostly between the ages of six and 15 and engage in sports, arts and crafts, swimming and other cultural activities. ![]() label: Osama Mazini (left), head of the Schalit negotiations for Hamas, at summer camp ceremony. Last week, senior Hamas official Dr. Younes al-Istal told Al-Arabiya TV the UNRWA summer camps were part of a plan to corrupt the younger generation and prepare it for normalization with Israel. Ahead of the summer, the Coordinator of Government Activities in the Territories allowed UNRWA to transfer truckloads of camp equipment - including inflatable swimming pools, toys, spray paint and musical instruments - into the Gaza Strip. Well, the report states "according to pictures obtained by The Jerusalem Post" Where are the pictures? What I can see from the first picture is a play performed by Palestinian children. The label says "Palestinian children, dressed as IDF soldiers and holding toy guns a reenact the abduction of Gilad Shalit" wait a min.. Were IDF soldiers the one who abducted Shalit? Wasn't he abducted while he was on a tank? Or please don't tell me Shalit's matter will be like holocaust issue, in every speech even if it's unrelated. The other picture shows distributing Quran to counselors, what's the problem here? So since this report is based on pictures, Can anybody tell me "What these pictures have to do with Gilad Shalit?" or even "Where is the teaching of "how to kidnap people"" or "the finer points of kidnapping." as Fox added? Otherwise, this report is a load of bunk no wonder fox liked it . Whatever, I bet Palestinian children or any children in their case wouldn't need Hamas or whoever to brainwash them, they just react to what they're going through, Israel only reap what she sow. What if they were the follow soldiers with the one IDF soldier? The fact is that Hamas is a hateful group, Palestinians are largely not peaceful people. They are teaching them to kidnap Jews, and it doesn't surprise me considering on children's shows they teach them to be martyrs for Palestine and Islam by joining Hamas or suicide bombing Israelis that are living in their motherland that really isn't theirs. It looks to me in the picture that the kids dressed as Israeli soldiers are out killing Palestinians (with the one kid on the floor) and destroying things (the other stomping on toys). It looks like they are trying to make the IDF look evil. There is no problem with distributing the Quran to counselors, but when it's to Hamas leaders you know it will be used and spun to fit a wicked ideology and a hate of Israelis. If I were a Muslim I would be disgusted by the fact that they are using the Quran for that purpose. The report isn't based on pictures, they didn't see a photo and make up a story around it. How else would they get the information that almost 120,000 Palestinian children will be at these camps. This isn't a new discovery, and it's the truth that Hamas is running these camps to indoctrinate children into terrorism. These monsters are trying to indoctrinate children... that's just sick. You know summer camps that run by Hamas, and the number of Palestinian children who attended is not new, it was in AFP report in Jun 2009. I just wonder about the "teaching of the kidnapping" part. The fact that part of Jpost report was according to pictures, is stated at the begining of it, so they should provide those pictures if there's any other; to be more credible, otherwise their report is nonsense. I'm not surprised about how Fox dramatise things, but how some believe everything from it. |
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Ryutai-Desk wrote: digs wrote: Israel has many enemies and there is much racism against them, They aren't evil and they don't preform evil things. The nation of Israel isn't bent on evil like Palestine and other Arab nations are. The fact is that you can't blame someone for your actions. If someone punches me it is still my fault and my problem if I pick up a gun and shoot him. The truth is that Hamas is evil, the Palestinians are generally racist towards Israel and very oppressive to each other. Did you know that Hamas slaughtered fellow Palestinians a few years ago in order to achieve political power? Israel isn't the one going in and killing innocents, it's Hamas and it has been proven that they did it out of malice fo their own people who didn't support them. The poverty is Hamas' fault. The spend most of their money on military expediters in order to target innocent Israeli civilians. They fund terrorism and spend their money smuggling weapons from Egypt over to Gaza. They don't spend money on food, aid, necessities, or anything else. The UN, Israel, and the US are the prime contributers to the charity sent to Gaza and if it wasn't for Israel, the US, and the UN, Gaza would be far worse off. In fact, Hamas attacked the UN and stole important aid supplies so that they could be the ones giving it to the people in order to make themselves look good. I would encourage you to check out this site http://www.palestinemediawatch.com/. It exposes Palestinian racism, terrorism, and indoctrination within their own media. Israel is not evil, Hamas is. That link obviously made by Israeli or whoever support Israel. Always refer to genuine website. and please give your post space like what I did above, so it'll be easier for us to read. Ever heard Veteran soldiers of Israel, this is their confession of what evil action happening in Gaza, reported by BBC UK http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8151336.stm And the testimony which all of them been rejected by Israel. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8151611.stm Palestinians killed during Israeli military offensive in Gaza, 27 Dec to 18 Jan - Palestinian claims followed by Israelis claims: Total dead: 1,434 / 1,166 Fighters: 235 / 710-870 Non-combatants: 906 / 295-460 Women: 121 / 49 Children under 16: 288 / 89 Sources: Palestinian Center for Human Rights and Israeli Defence Intelligence Research Dept. And who ignores America for building more houses in Palestine's terrtory? http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2008/03/mil-080331-rianovosti05.htm http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090719/wl_mideast_afp/mideastdiplomacyisraelussettlerjerusalem_20090719143232 http://current.com/items/90473348_again-israel-ignores-obama-administration.htm (Ignoring Obama's administration) From youtube : Cruel but Necessary: Opinions in Jerusalem about the Settlements and Obama Haha, so the link is an Israeli conspiracy? Regardless of who made it, it's true. That is what goes around in the Palestinian media and it's very racist, ugly, and promotes terrorism. And those testimonies are very incriminating. They were first of all taken by a group who hates Israel and wants to make them look bad, and secondly it was reported by BBC, they are renown for anti-Israel bias and report selective truths sometimes. What the Gaza offensive bad? Israel didn't go in to kill civilians, that's fact. They didn't go in and target women and children. Do you know why so many died? It's because Hamas used women, children, and innocents as human shields, they hid weapons in Mosques and in private civilian places. Did you know that Israel sent leaflets from the sky warning civilians of an incoming bombing? Or that they called residential homes and sent text messages to people who may have been in danger of bombing? Did you know that Israel opened the border and provided free excellent health care for wounded Palestinians? And did you also know that Hamas prevented the wounded from going to Israel for treatment? Israel is not evil, period. The "evil" US and Israel are the biggest donors of aid to Palestinians. Hamas and the Arab world paint Israel as a "Zionist Regime" full of racist Jews that want to kill innocent people and make up the holocaust in oder to justify evil. |
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Ryutai-Desk Total dead: 1,434 / 1,166 Fighters: 235 / 710-870 Non-combatants: 906 / 295-460 Women: 121 / 49 Children under 16: 288 / 89 Sources: Palestinian Center for Human Rights and Israeli Defence Intelligence Research Dept. Well, in the 1991 Gulf War Coalition forces massacred 30,000 Iraqis. That’s ignoring the Kuwaitis who were accidently caught in the cross fire, and thousands of the Iraqis were civilians. In one day 400 civilians, mostly women and children, were killed by one bomb. Most of the Iraqi soldiers were killed after throwing down their weapons in surrender or fleeing. At the end of the war a traffic jam of 2000 civilian vehicles was intentionally targeted and bombed by US and British aircraft. No one knows how many thousands were killed. All in all, the Iraquis only killed 248 in the coalition. Today in the Iraq war a total of 3000 Iraqis die every week, most of the civilians. This is my major complaint about the Palestine v. Israel incident. Comparatively speaking, Israel is fighting in a more densely populated region and with less casualties than what the Coalition and US forces inflict in their wars. So, really they’re actually doing pretty good. According to the human rights watch, most of the Palestinian victims were killed by unmanned drone planes. And they credit the high civilian casualty rate (which actually wasn’t very high, compared to other wars,) to ground level irresponsibility not to Israeli aggression. In other words, the soldiers aren’t being as careful as they’re supposed to be. Which is bad, and Israel needs to get its ass into gear, but people manipulate that and say Israel intentionally did this. In addition, people accredit the war to Israel’s wall around Gaza. But that wall wasn’t built until the Israeli public was outraged with their government for failing to protect them when a Palestinian rocket killed a 4 year old girl. The government was pressured by its people to provide them with security-the security they deserve. Now, parts of the wall on Gaza are IN Gaza. These should be torn down. The wall in Westbank and East Jerusalem should also be torn down. But, Israel has a right to build on its own territory rather the terrorists like it or not. In the case of Gaza, MOST of the wall is in Israel. Israel has the right to build that wall, and I don’t think it’s fair to tell them to put their civilians at risk for the sake of Palestinian civilians. who ignores America for building more houses in Palestine's terrtory? http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2008/03/mil-080331-rianovosti05.htm http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090719/wl_mideast_afp/mideastdiplomacyisraelussettlerjerusalem_20090719143232 http://current.com/items/90473348_again-israel-ignores-obama-administration.htm (Ignoring Obama's administration Well, there are two sides to this. On one hand, America is demanding Israel to do things that we ourselves would not do and the Israeli’s are offended because they’re our number one supporter in the UN and they share their military technologies almost exclusively with us. On the other side these demands aren’t actually demands, they’re conditions. Israel receives large amounts of foreign aid from America, second only to Iraq. (We give about the same amount to Egypt too.) Now, we say: “In exchange for our funding, you must stop retaliating to missile attacks and stop building your security fence/settlements in the Westbank.” Well, we ourselves wouldn’t do this. But it’s just like the international gag rule. It’s our money, we have a right to put whatever conditions on our money we so desire. It’s our money, after all. And if they don’t want to stop building in Westbank then that’s their business. (Theirs, Palestine’s, and the UN’s but not ours.) But, they should stop lying to us and taking our money if they’re not going to live up to the conditions of our agreement. It’s not just Obama. George Bush was actually putting increasing penalties on military aid to Israel because they refuse to stop building those settlements. Obama is just jump starting what Bush was slowly beginning. And rightfully so. |
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