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Posted Jun 28 2009, edited Jun 28 2009
I like all these anti-Semantic cartoons. They’re so wonderful. I absolutely adore how that Jewish child is so stereotypically racist. My turn!

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"Hush baby, hush. Damn that Palestinian rocket that has woken you. Have this bottle, and you will relaxe and go to sleep"

Baby's bottle: "Gaza"

Al-Risala March 6 2008

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Yei
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Posted Jun 28 2009

SeraphAlford wrote:

I like all these anti-Semantic cartoons. They’re so wonderful. I absolutely adore how that Jewish child is so stereotypically racist. My turn!

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"Hush baby, hush. Damn that Palestinian rocket that has woken you. Have this bottle, and you will relaxe and go to sleep"

Baby's bottle: "Gaza"

Al-Risala March 6 2008

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Seriously, how are they anti-Semitic?? They don't got anything to do with race.
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Posted Jun 29 2009

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israil should not exist.

I truly despise its existence.




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That pretty much sums it up right there. A picture speaks a thousand words.
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Posted Jun 29 2009

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I know you didn't say all Christians believed that, I was just pointing out that not even most do. And there are good Christian camps and then there are Political "Jesus camps" where they brainwash kids in "Jesus Name." Sometimes for good intentions but they are vastly confused and do it in a way that isn't Christ-like. They say they are a large group, but in reality they are very very small. I have never even personally heard of one of those brainwashing political Jesus camps and my state is fairly Christian. They can't fix elections and they certainly don't have a hold over who wins. If this was true Obama wouldn't be president and the Democrat party wouldn't have complete political monopoly in every federal branch of the US Government. They make Israel a big issue because they mainly just don't like the Arab-Muslim nations who oppose Israel. Hate is wrong, and these people commit that sin through their actions. It isn't so much a support for Israel as much as it is a hate for the Arab world. I'm not an expert on this subject but thats what I conclude from it all.


Ok, here's the stats: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6rSjrBhUIA

Right after this^ he gets interviewed and he says if his entire group votes, they would decide the election. By that I think he meant give someone the boost they may need to win, if it's close.

The Jesus Camp movie wasn't just about the brainwashing at the camp, it was about the brainwashing in general. In the beginning it shows what the kids lives are like at home, what their parents who home school them tell them. In the end the kids are gonna turn out the way Ted Haggard wanted them to turn out (well, not anymore), and he was George Bush's adviser.

And I don't think they are so interested in Israel because the Arab countries are against it lol, most of the Arab countries are under US control anyways, they could pose no real threat. And there's alot of hate in other parts of the world, and for some reason they just decided to focus on the hate against Israel? There's a genocide happening in Darfur, but Israel is a much bigger problem for people in the US? I think they love Israel so much and it's such a huge issue in the US for religious reasons, and maybe the US political ties with it.


The reason why Israel is such an issue in the US is because the US is directly involved in the conflict. I am not sure about our involvement in Darfur as I didnt doo too much research. Our country funds that country, gives them military weapons freely to bombard the Palestinians and we veto every resolution against them. We have many organizations in our country that is successfully able to stir public opinion in favor of Israel and character assinate those against Israel. Many Americans are aware of this and are fed up rather they be muslim, christian, jews (yes there are jews who are fed up with Israel and her hypocritical actions), non religious people who can see through the smoke and see Israel for the true, lieing, barbaric nation they are. Obama can talk the talk but to me he isnt walking the walk if he wants Israel to really stop settlement expansions he needs to give them an option. Either stop or we withdraw all aid to you.
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Posted Jun 29 2009

SeraphAlford wrote:

I absolutely adore how that Jewish child is so stereotypically racist. My turn!

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"Hush baby, hush. Damn that Palestinian rocket that has woken you. Have this bottle, and you will relaxe and go to sleep"

Baby's bottle: "Gaza"

Al-Risala March 6 2008


This cartoon speaks the truth... ( AFP, Reuters, Yahoo! *)

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Posted Jun 29 2009
I really think that the Palestinians need to stop the violence and spreading lies. Israel is not murdering anyone, Palestinians are not being racially oppressed. On the contrary, the opposite is happening. Children are being brainwashed into hating Israel, they are taught to be martyrs for Palestine, they kill each other over political power. Yet through all the corruption, violence, and hatred, Palestine pleads the cry of an oppressed innocent. This is far from the truth. The biggest oppressor, murderer, and threat to Palestinians is the government of Palestine and the Islamic extremists who commit acts of terrorism.
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Posted Jun 29 2009, edited Jun 29 2009
This is one brave Jewish guy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMGuYjt6CP8

digs, this guy explains our (mine, drizza & azera's) view on this issue pretty well. People won't listen to Norman FInkelstein (who's parents survived the Holocaust) because he gets anti-Semite accusations, but maybe you'll listen to this guy.
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Posted Jun 29 2009, edited Jun 29 2009
I watched the video, that guy is a liar, he compared Israel to Nazis and said that they "massacre" Palestinians because they are justified to do it because of the Holocaust. He said Israel was created by Jewish terrorism, when in reality it was due to his country (the UK) giving it's British Mandate to the UN, who then gave Jordan tot he Arabs and Israel to the Jewish population. There was not Jewish terrorism, in fact one day after Israel was officially created by the UN, Arab armies came in and tried to kill them all and destroy the country when it was new and weak... and they lost. I understand what he says, but it seems to me to be lies meant to appeal to emotion and I would take it all with a pinch of salt, but I appreciate the link and the info. Here is a site that is very informative and shows mostly what people from my view hold. http://www.masada2000.org/. The 35 lessons are very enlightening on the whole conflict. The site doesn't show all my views, and some of the wording is fairly strong, but the info is true and it shows the side the media won't.
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Posted Jun 29 2009, edited Jun 29 2009

digs wrote:

I'll watch the video when I have time. But here is a site that is very informative and shows mostly what people from my view hold. http://www.masada2000.org/. The 35 lessons are very enlightening on the whole conflict.


This is what SeraphAlford must feel like when he sees anything anti-Semitic, except this is actually racist lol

I really don't know what to say. The whole site seems like religious extremist Christian/Zionist views filled with ignorance and nothing credible. The people from Christians United for Israel would probably find it too extreme lol. First of all the religious stuff and "the myth of the Palestinian people" stuff is irrelevant. The part that starts to get relevant is the "GREED, PRIDE, ENVY!" section, with the evil green goblin/Arab scary looking dude. "From the moment the Jewish People re-established sovereignty in their ancient homeland, they sought genuine peace with all of their neighbors." Biased is not even the right word here, I can't even describe it. It seems they left out the ethnic cleansing and massacring and basically literally stealing the lives of millions of innocent people that still today are living in refugee camps. Nothing there justifies any of the reasons we're against Israel.
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Posted Jun 29 2009

digs wrote:

I watched the video, that guy is a liar, he compared Israel to Nazis and said that they "massacre" Palestinians because they are justified to do it because of the Holocaust. He said Israel was created by Jewish terrorism, when in reality it was due to his country (the UK) giving it's British Mandate to the UN, who then gave Jordan tot he Arabs and Israel to the Jewish population. There was not Jewish terrorism, in fact one day after Israel was officially created by the UN, Arab armies came in and tried to kill them all and destroy the country when it was new and weak... and they lost. I understand what he says, but it seems to me to be lies meant to appeal to emotion and I would take it all with a pinch of salt, but I appreciate the link and the info. Here is a site that is very informative and shows mostly what people from my view hold. http://www.masada2000.org/. The 35 lessons are very enlightening on the whole conflict. The site doesn't show all my views, and some of the wording is fairly strong, but the info is true and it shows the side the media won't.


Israel does massacre Palestinians all the time, that's common knowledge. Many Zionists use the Holocaust and antisemitism to justify all Israel's actions, and they do it by immediately bringing out the anti-Semite and Holocaust denier claims, and like he said, his grandmother didn't die so she could be used as an excuse for Israel to do whatever it wants. It is a fact that there was Jewish terrorism, this is also common knowledge on this issue. In the time period just before Israel's creation, there were many Jewish/Zionist terrorist groups, as well as Arab ones. The Jewish ones attacked and killed the British powers there, and that could very well be the reason Britain suddenly decided to give up on them, therefore making it possible for the Zionists to create a state.
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Posted Jun 29 2009, edited Jun 29 2009
http://www.masada2000.org/solution.html

I really don't like this site....

The UN and the rest of the world's solution obviously can't work. And then go on ahead and make fun the worst off of the Palestinians.
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Posted Jun 29 2009, edited Jun 29 2009
The site isn't Zionist, they just tell the truth about Palestine. If telling the truth and having that stance makes someone Zionist then I guess I'm a little Zionist myself. The info is factual. They don't make fun of the Palestinians, they just expose the truth of what Palestine really is.

And Israel does not massacre Palestinians. They don't just walk into Gaza or the West Bank and shoot people up. Israel isn't Evil, the Palestinian governments are. It's Palestinian and Arab propaganda that says Israel kills innocents and that it's some giant satanic country. the truth is that the Palestinians are oppressed by Palestinians and Arabs, not Israelis. The Palestinians teach a very violent and evil message of hate in their schools, they teach that Israel has no right to exist and that it is Palestinian land that was stolen and is now occupied by "Jewish thugs." The website speaks the truth, and if the truth is Zionist because it exposes the Palestinian government and shows Israel's right, then the world needs to listen and stop condemning Israel and upholding the terrorists.
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Posted Jun 29 2009, edited Jun 29 2009

digs wrote:

The site isn't Zionist, they just tell the truth about Palestine. If telling the truth and having that stance makes someone Zionist then I guess I'm a little Zionist myself. The info is factual. They don't make fun of the Palestinians, they just expose the truth of what Palestine really is.

And Israel does not massacre Palestinians. They don't just walk into Gaza or the West Bank and shoot people up. Israel isn't Evil, the Palestinian governments are. It's Palestinian and Arab propaganda that says Israel kills innocents and that it's some giant satanic country. the truth is that the Palestinians are oppressed by Palestinians and Arabs, not Israelis.


Zionism is the political movement to make a Jewish homeland in Palestine, I don't think you're necessarily a Zionist, just a supporter of Zionism. I'm guessing Zionists are just the ones that are directly part of the movement. The beginning of the original webpage you posted is not really important, I don't care what Palestinians and Palestine really are and what the history is. The place where they were making fun of the Palestinians was the page I put in the same post, the crazy solutions one.

I don't even think Zionists argue over whether Israel has massacred Palestinians. They just massacred 1400 Palestinians a couple months ago. And yes they have just walked into Gaza or West Bank and shot people up, IDF soldiers have sniped and murdered hundreds if not thousands of Palestinians like that over the years. In my opinion Israel is pretty evil, it sure does alot of evil things. Then again most government of the world are evil, but Israel isn't honest about it's evils and even tries to make excuses, which is low.

You seem ignorant of alot of things Israel has been doing to Palestinians in the past. Do you wanna see what Amnesty International, the UN and many other Human Rights watch groups say about Israel's treatment of Palestinians? I thought it was common knowledge, Israel treats them like dirt, just like that UK guy said. From the way Israel has treated Palestinians in the past, you could easily come to the conclusion that they don't care about Palestinian's rights or lives, and are extremely cruel with them. That's why I don't like Israel, that's why Norman Finkelstein and that UK guy don't like Israel. It's not just random ignorant hatred, we don't like Israel because of what it's done to Palestinians, and you are just unaware of what it's done to Palestinians.
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Posted Jun 29 2009

Yei wrote:


digs wrote:

I'll watch the video when I have time. But here is a site that is very informative and shows mostly what people from my view hold. http://www.masada2000.org/. The 35 lessons are very enlightening on the whole conflict.


This is what SeraphAlford must feel like when he sees anything anti-Semitic, except this is actually racist lol.



I didn't read the entire thing, because most of it seems to be simple common knowledge. I mean, pretty much everyone knows that the Palestinians have no real claim to Israel. They have a claim to Westbank, Gaza, and East Jerusalem though-and in this way that website is misleading. Israel has no right to be in any of those areas. Whatever the case, from what I did read there wasn’t anything racist. You want to quote which lines, specifically, you felt were racist?
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Posted Jun 29 2009, edited Jun 29 2009

SeraphAlford wrote:


Yei wrote:


digs wrote:

I'll watch the video when I have time. But here is a site that is very informative and shows mostly what people from my view hold. http://www.masada2000.org/. The 35 lessons are very enlightening on the whole conflict.


This is what SeraphAlford must feel like when he sees anything anti-Semitic, except this is actually racist lol.



I didn't read the entire thing, because most of it seems to be simple common knowledge. I mean, pretty much everyone knows that the Palestinians have no real claim to Israel. They have a claim to Westbank, Gaza, and East Jerusalem though-and in this way that website is misleading. Israel has no right to be in any of those areas. Whatever the case, from what I did read there wasn’t anything racist. You want to quote which lines, specifically, you felt were racist?


I barely even looked at the "claim" parts, not really important who God gave land to or who was there 2000 years ago. The "GREED, PRIDE, ENVY!" part, with the green Arab guy is where it gets less formal and more crazy.
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