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I would encourage you to check out this site http://www.palestinemediawatch.com/. It exposes Palestinian racism, terrorism, and indoctrination within their own media. Israel is not evil, Hamas is.


That link obviously made by Israeli or whoever support Israel. Always refer to genuine website. and please give your post space like what I did above, so it'll be easier for us to read.

Ever heard Veteran soldiers of Israel, this is their confession of what evil action happening in Gaza, reported by BBC UK
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8151336.stm

And the testimony which all of them been rejected by Israel.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8151611.stm


From youtube :
Cruel but Necessary: Opinions in Jerusalem about the Settlements and Obama



Haha, so the link is an Israeli conspiracy? Regardless of who made it, it's true. That is what goes around in the Palestinian media and it's very racist, ugly, and promotes terrorism. And those testimonies are very incriminating. They were first of all taken by a group who hates Israel and wants to make them look bad, and secondly it was reported by BBC, they are renown for anti-Israel bias and report selective truths sometimes.

What the Gaza offensive bad? Israel didn't go in to kill civilians, that's fact. They didn't go in and target women and children. Do you know why so many died? It's because Hamas used women, children, and innocents as human shields, they hid weapons in Mosques and in private civilian places.

Did you know that Israel sent leaflets from the sky warning civilians of an incoming bombing? Or that they called residential homes and sent text messages to people who may have been in danger of bombing? Did you know that Israel opened the border and provided free excellent health care for wounded Palestinians? And did you also know that Hamas prevented the wounded from going to Israel for treatment? Israel is not evil, period.

The "evil" US and Israel are the biggest donors of aid to Palestinians. Hamas and the Arab world paint Israel as a "Zionist Regime" full of racist Jews that want to kill innocent people and make up the holocaust in oder to justify evil.


Yes, the link is conspiracy. That website only provides you news about the cruelty of Hamas, Palestine, Iran and Moslem in general. Do you notice some pages written Hebrew? That's fact that someone from Israel made it to counter Al-Jazeera TV who also always reported about Palestine's victim, but Al-Jazeera provides us the images of women and children suffering badly from continuous attack by Israel. And Israel uses heavy weapon against Hamas when they well-informed Hamas is in civilian building. They should used soldiers if they only want to eliminate Hamas Militant

Maybe it's true that Hamas used civillians as human shields, hence that proven Israel ignored that and attack civilians as well.

Was there any news from media that Israel sent leaflets to warning civilians? And what the civilians supposed to do after they received it? They have nowhere to go. After all, Israel almost bombed all the places in Gaza. The leaflets are like notifications they'll died....

Israel provides free medical care for Palestinians when they know they caused all that wound? (I'd like to know the sources)
Also Israel violated The Geneva Treaty of 1980 for using white phosphorus in civilian areas.
"Residents said that they suffered burns on their feet when they walked where the shelling had taken place. "
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article5519433.ece
http://www.world-crisis.com/news/838_0_1_0_C/

This is the fact what Israel did in Gaza, also they humiliated Moslem by attacked them at the time of their, holy month or what they called that? Idul Fitri?

But yes, I think both sides are in fault, whether is Iran's president that said want to vanish Israel from world map and the extremist.
Both acts only caused more hatred and vengeance

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Total dead: 1,434 / 1,166
Fighters: 235 / 710-870
Non-combatants: 906 / 295-460
Women: 121 / 49
Children under 16: 288 / 89

Sources: Palestinian Center for Human Rights and Israeli Defence Intelligence Research Dept.


Today in the Iraq war a total of 3000 Iraqis die every week, most of the civilians. This is my major complaint about the Palestine v. Israel incident. Comparatively speaking, Israel is fighting in a more densely populated region and with less casualties than what the Coalition and US forces inflict in their wars. So, really they’re actually doing pretty good.


It's not good, as long as they have victims from civilians. I know this is inevitable in most of war. But that's not acceptable as long as women, children and old people were involved in this war. Why Israel continuing the attack, knowing their filed is in more densely populated region?
It caused more suffering to weak people, more torture by soldiers and more HATRED to Israel.


According to the human rights watch, most of the Palestinian victims were killed by unmanned drone planes. And they credit the high civilian casualty rate (which actually wasn’t very high, compared to other wars,) to ground level irresponsibility not to Israeli aggression. In other words, the soldiers aren’t being as careful as they’re supposed to be. Which is bad, and Israel needs to get its ass into gear, but people manipulate that and say Israel intentionally did this.


Yes, Israel are really careful for what actions they will do. Also very well-known, how they torture civilians. Not many civilians were died, because they were tortured especially by phosphorous
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article5519433.ece
http://www.world-crisis.com/news/838_0_1_0_C/
"Residents said that they suffered burns on their feet when they walked where the shelling had taken place. "


Now, parts of the wall on Gaza are IN Gaza. These should be torn down. The wall in Westbank and East Jerusalem should also be torn down. But, Israel has a right to build on its own territory rather the terrorists like it or not. In the case of Gaza, MOST of the wall is in Israel. Israel has the right to build that wall, and I don’t think it’s fair to tell them to put their civilians at risk for the sake of Palestinian civilians.

Well, we ourselves wouldn’t do this. But it’s just like the international gag rule. It’s our money, we have a right to put whatever conditions on our money we so desire. It’s our money, after all. And if they don’t want to stop building in Westbank then that’s their business. (Theirs, Palestine’s, and the UN’s but not ours.) But, they should stop lying to us and taking our money if they’re not going to live up to the conditions of our agreement.


Yes, it's your own money to build anything in your countries. Nobody cares. But if what you build concerning to other country and affect the people from another country, that's the problem. You can't do whatever you like for your own country. Examples like what N.Korea and Iran build their own nuclear, what US doing with Missile defence in east-Europe, what Russia did in Georgia, what many developing and developed country manufacture their industry and releasing the carbon that affect to the rest of the world.

That's no what a country supposed to be. A country should follow international law, like geneva treaty in war sector. From begin with, this world is not own by one country, belief, race or gender. This world is everyone.


It’s not just Obama. George Bush was actually putting increasing penalties on military aid to Israel because they refuse to stop building those settlements. Obama is just jump starting what Bush was slowly beginning. And rightfully so
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Another proof, Israel is being ignorant and do not follow international rules and law whether it's from US or UN.
Not only the government, but the citizens as well.
Look : Cruel but Necessary: Opinions in Jerusalem about the Settlements and Obama


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It's not good, as long as they have victims from civilians. I know this is inevitable in most of war. But that's not acceptable as long as women, children and old people were involved in this war. Why Israel continuing the attack, knowing their filed is in more densely populated region?
It caused more suffering to weak people, more torture by soldiers and more HATRED to Israel.


Hamas fled into Gaza City, Israel simply made the pursuit. It's bad but Hamas has to be taken out, and we can't let their wall of human shields stop us from achieving that goal. Israel can't either. Hamas stole Gaza from the PLO and the Palestinian people. That's against international law, hints the UN condemns Hamas as a terrorist orginization. Hamas has to be removed and Gaza has to be given back to a democratic rule.
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It's not good, as long as they have victims from civilians. I know this is inevitable in most of war. But that's not acceptable as long as women, children and old people were involved in this war. Why Israel continuing the attack, knowing their field is in more densely populated region?
It caused more suffering to weak people, more torture by soldiers and more HATRED to Israel.


Hamas fled into Gaza City, Israel simply made the pursuit. It's bad but Hamas has to be taken out, and we can't let their wall of human shields stop us from achieving that goal. Israel can't either. Hamas stole Gaza from the PLO and the Palestinian people. That's against international law, hints the UN condemns Hamas as a terrorist orginization. Hamas has to be removed and Gaza has to be given back to a democratic rule.


In other word, tainted your hand by blood of innocent's people for the sake of peace?
Yes, we know PLO was recognized by UN. But was PLO recognized by Israel?

The Palestinian National Charter as amended in 1968 endorsed the use of "armed struggle" against "Zionist imperialism."




Hamas has to be removed and Gaza has to be given back to a democratic rule.

That's what we called pressure from America, forced society to follows democratic system, which in middle east they believe in Islamic laws.

What's happened if the people do not want to follow the democracy system? The war happening right now, in front our eyes, caused heavy injured to innocent's people because of ideology. The Empire of Saudi Arabia doing well by its law, they do not follow the democracy system but they can cooperate well with America.

Well, actually Hamas did that democracy system.
In the Palestinian legislative election of 2006, Hamas gained the majority of seats in the first fair and democratic elections held in Palestine, defeating the ruling Fatah party. The "List of Change and Reform", as Hamas presented itself, obtained 42.9% of the vote and 74 of the 132 seats. Many perceived the preceding Fatah government as corrupt and ineffective, and Hamas's supporters see it as an "armed resistance"


This is what people's voice in Palestine if that what you called democracy. Well, the problem is the neighbor nation that doesn't like this. Ignoring international laws, killed civilians and even mass bombed them in day which they called.. "Idul Fitri" I think? The day after Ramadhan, or so I heard. That's humiliation.
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Well, actually Hamas did that democracy system.
In the Palestinian legislative election of 2006, Hamas gained the majority of seats in the first fair and democratic elections held in Palestine, defeating the ruling Fatah party. The "List of Change and Reform", as Hamas presented itself, obtained 42.9% of the vote and 74 of the 132 seats. Many perceived the preceding Fatah government as corrupt and ineffective, and Hamas's supporters see it as an "armed resistance"


This is what people's voice in Palestine if that what you called democracy. Well, the problem is the neighbor nation that doesn't like this. Ignoring international laws, killed civilians and even mass bombed them in day which they called.. "Idul Fitri" I think? The day after Ramadhan, or so I heard. That's humiliation.


See, this is where people confuse themselves on the issue. Yes, Hamas did attain a majority of seats in the election but they did NOT take over Gaza democratically. That would be like if the Democratic party took over Texas by brute force and then said, “well we got voted to a majority of seats in the Senate.” One does not relate to the other.

Hamas' democratic election and Hamas' coup to attain power in Gaza are completely separate events which have nothing to do with one another.
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What's happened if the people do not want to follow the democracy system? The war happening right now, in front our eyes, caused heavy injured to innocent's people because of ideology. The Empire of Saudi Arabia doing well by its law, they do not follow the democracy system but they can cooperate well with America.


Isn't that the beauty of the democratic system? That you can chose to be undemocratic? But the Palestinians didn't chose that. Hamas mad that decision for them. You don't honestly intend to defend Hamas? And don't kid yourself, the war in Iraq is about oil.
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Well, actually Hamas did that democracy system.
In the Palestinian legislative election of 2006, Hamas gained the majority of seats in the first fair and democratic elections held in Palestine, defeating the ruling Fatah party. The "List of Change and Reform", as Hamas presented itself, obtained 42.9% of the vote and 74 of the 132 seats. Many perceived the preceding Fatah government as corrupt and ineffective, and Hamas's supporters see it as an "armed resistance"


This is what people's voice in Palestine if that what you called democracy. Well, the problem is the neighbor nation that doesn't like this. Ignoring international laws, killed civilians and even mass bombed them in day which they called.. "Idul Fitri" I think? The day after Ramadhan, or so I heard. That's humiliation.


See, this is where people confuse themselves on the issue. Yes, Hamas did attain a majority of seats in the election but they did NOT take over Gaza democratically. That would be like if the Democratic party took over Texas by brute force and then said, “well we got voted to a majority of seats in the Senate.” One does not relate to the other.

Hamas' democratic election and Hamas' coup to attain power in Gaza are completely separate events which have nothing to do with one another.


So you meant if they did not take it 'democratically' they can't become authority over Palestine, even though they won the voice of majority of Palestine's people through election? And that election is a part of Democracy, right?

It's so obvious Hamas didn't want to be part of that election. It's simply because they do not want to acknowledge the democracy system, they prefer Islamic laws, we all know that. And I think Hamas didn't interfere the whole election's progress, only small dispute. I think because Hamas also want to be acknowledge by others nation and do not want be treated as the world's enemy as America always said, so they let it go the election and see how the Palestine's heart belongs to.

As we know, Palestine's people heart is belong to Hamas. They don't want to be controlled by Fatah, as they think Fatah is the puppet of America and Israel. Palestinian wants to be ruled by Hamas, with Islamic laws. That's Palestine voice. That's their right as human's being.

SO?! Why Israel and America do not approve their right? Doesn't human right is the core of Democracy they always proud of?

If they can't appreciate Palestine voice, with or without Democracy, they shouldn't stick their nose to internal affair of Palestine people.



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What's happened if the people do not want to follow the democracy system? The war happening right now, in front our eyes, caused heavy injured to innocent's people because of ideology. The Empire of Saudi Arabia doing well by its law, they do not follow the democracy system but they can cooperate well with America.


Isn't that the beauty of the democratic system? That you can chose to be undemocratic? But the Palestinians didn't chose that. Hamas mad that decision for them.


Yes, the beauty of Democracy is freedom. That's what Democracy offers to society, as I live in a country that adopt Democracy as its government system too. Hence, that beauty has been tainted to evilness, when Democracy were being forced as ideology to the wrong mindset of people. As America always do.. until now.

Take example, Japan. That country used to adopt imperialism as their government system as the King as their leader and the decision maker as all of politics around Japanese and its relation to foreign country, now in desperate situation. As they originally do not fit in Democracy system, but America forced them to implement that system which has been cause severe damages to stabilization to Japan.

Chaos reigned in Japan's ruling Liberal Democratic Party ahead of the expected August 30 election, as backbenchers and others in the government jockeyed to try and remove Prime Minister Taro Aso to prevent what they see is electoral oblivion.

http://www.asxnewbie.com/Overseas-Stock-Markets/Overseas-Stock-Markets/japan-facing-political-chaos-as-economy-steadies.html

And many nations that's not really suit for Democracy system..... leads to many damages within the country. Zimbabwe... and Iran maybe?


You don't honestly intend to defend Hamas? And don't kid yourself, the war in Iraq is about oil.


What if I am a kid from war's victim and I'm at lose side from those who fighting to get the land? Do I have a right to speak while you from the country that praise and proud of Democracy knowing the fact that I'm a lower human's being from 4th world country and struggled to... at least survive not seeking for human's right?

I would take your word as offend if I'm not a kid 13 years old, which is yes, I'm a lolita here trying to know what older people or adult thinks here... which is really disappointing when I talked here...
A person really biased, favoring Israel without knowing the truth in the field and ignoring the pain Palestine has been endure. Easily accused them (Arab people, Palestine, Iranian and others) as terrorist which is really being ignorant!

And I didn't even mentioned a single thing about Iraq and Oil. Well, you speak the truth about America. Invading weak country as much as they desire for resources, attacking civilians in Afghanistan, Iraq and now Palestine with Israel.

Is hurting people really that fun?! Is shooting people gives your soldiers happiness that much?! Is seeing poor people suffering not enough for you that gives you superior feelings as 1st world country?! Is that not enough so you having fun in another's people country, slaughtering them while laughing?! IS that NOT ENOUGH?!

I, as a 13 years old human beings, looked, felt and suffered at the reality. The reality that world has been leaded by inhuman beings.

If you do not want to be an inhuman beings which you WILL BE as your environment makes you realizes the world's reality. Go out from your college, release your mind from books and feel the pain of others, or at least.... get a cruel life to open your eyes.............

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I support Palestine!
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Israel continues to just throw arabs out of their homes on the street and move foreign Jews in while the Arab countires (aka puppets of the west) countries and world just watches. This isnt going to help Israel popularity but only keep making them look like the barbaric dogs they are trying desperatly with their organizations in western countries to gain sympathy.

Homewreckers and Vultures

Where are the Arabs to Stand Up for the Hanoun and Ghawi Families?

By BOUTHAINA SHAABAN

I would like you to try and imagine someone forcing his way into your home without permission and ordering you at gun point to leave the safe home you have built through a lifetime of toil and hard work and turned into a nest for your children and grandchildren. Imagine foreign soldiers coming from the far ends of the world armed to the teeth with inherited hatred against you to expel you from your home, replace you, occupy your land, and put an end to your existence and history.

Like anyone else, you look round for help from family, friends and neighbors. You find them busy currying favours with authorities they think are capable of determining their destiny, while they themselves have the key to their destiny if they stand for their dignity and for their rights. Despite their differences, you see them equal before the Israeli occupier who erected checkpoints on their roads to humiliate them, violate their identity and usurp their rights. Nevertheless, you see them preoccupied with small battles among themselves forgetful of the only battle worthy of their effort and their struggle: the battle for their freedom and their independence.

If you cannot imagine that because you have no experience of the crimes and humiliation of occupation, just consider the case of the Hanoun and Ghawi families in the Sheikh Jarrah neighbourhood of Jerusalem. Israeli soldiers threw the two families and all their belongings out of their homes. Foreign settlers, with a brutality that characterizes all racists, rushed in while the men, women and children of the two families, seventy of them, looked on with grief and frustration for the lost home, the memories, the happy moments which brought them together with friends and family, the aspirations which once filled their souls.

Arab and Muslim readers could read in the dim eyes of the Arab Muslim mother, the feelings of disappointment, frustration and despair of all the millions of Arabs and Muslims and of all the ‘civilized’ world which never tires of talking about freedom, democracy and human rights. One could read a question on her innocent face: are not we, Arab Muslim Palestinians, human beings?! Where are all those hundreds of millions of Arabs and Muslims in the four corners of the world? Why do not they rush to our aid? Or are they like the scum of a turbulent stream?

Despite the enormity of the crime and the tragedy, most of the Arab media limited themselves to quick news stories about the Hanoun and Ghawi families. The media also turned a page on Judaizing the names of Arab villages and cities in Palestine, preventing the Palestinians from remembering the nakba, or catastrophe, and were only descriptive about the model of the temple which Israel has built next to al-Aqsa mosque in a long series of attempts to turn it into a synagogue.

Instead of being preoccupied with Israeli threats to the rights and sanctities of their brothers, particularly to the first of the holy Muslim shrines, part of Arab officialdom is busy calculating the extent of the power of Turkey and Iran and how it affects the Arab identity and the future of the region.

While the Israeli threat engulfs Jerusalem, and while Israeli settlements are sprawling all over Palestine, and Ehud Barak threatens to destroy all Lebanon if its people reject Israeli hegemony; and after Iranian officials talked about the duty of all Arabs to defend any Arab country threatened with aggression; and after Turkish officials called on the Arabs to unite and face plots aimed at dividing and weakening them, some Arab columnists responded by talking about the danger of the ‘Ottoman Pasha’ and the ‘Persian enemy’. Such articles are, of course, an integral part of a tireless campaign which has been raging for years to weaken the Arabs and undermine them completely even with regard to ties and relations which could contribute to their revival if they made good use of them.

The fact of the matter is that the geopolitical and economic situation in our region is in a transitional phase during which Arabs are suffering from total weakness and deliberate division. Turkey and Iran have in recent years, and for political and religious motives, shown support for the Arab position, particularly against foreign aggression and occupation of Palestine and Lebanon. So, what is the Arab position towards this important strategic geopolitical transformation? What are the criteria they use in assessing this relationship?

There is no disputing the fact that the coming age is the age of knowledge. The Western, and particularly the Israeli, attack against Iran is caused by their fear that Iran would possess knowledge of nuclear energy which will enable it to have an independent national will. Their explicit and implicit battles with Turkey are caused by Turkey’s strategic policy which has made Turkey a crucial player in energy transmission between Europe and Asia.

Through the Nabucco pipeline and the South Stream project, Turkey has insured the prosperity of Turkish economy and the power and status for the Turkish nation for future decades and maybe the next century, while the Arabs ignore the source of the strategic power which they have in their oil, water and geographical position and destroy all the elements of their power by division and fragmentation. That is why their role is shriveling internationally and diminishing regionally.

If Arabs continue on this course they will be no more significant than the scum and froth over a stream. Hundreds of millions of Arabs and Muslims failed to stand and defend Gaza, Mohammad al-Durra and the Hanoun and Ghawi families, while President Bill Clinton has gone to North Korea to bring back an American journalist. The millions of Arabs should stand and be counted because the enemies have gathered over our nation like hungry vultures.

Bouthaina Shaaban is Political and Media Advisor at the Syrian Presidency, and former Minister of Expatriates and spokesperson for Syria. . She has also been a writer and professor at Damascus University since 1985. She was nominated for Nobel Peace Prize in 2005.

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But should the Palestinians be allowed to have their land from 1946? Had how did they acquire it in the first place? Historically, the land of Israel has belong to the Hebrew people.


Historically, the land of the USA has belong to the Native Americans. I don't think you'd be okay to leave the USA to the Native americans, right?


hahaha damn straight!
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Lol this is a good question and a good article.

Gross Violations of Human Rights
Why Not Sanctions for Israel?

By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS

In Israel, a country stolen from the Palestinians, fanatics control the government. One of the fanatics is the prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu. Last week Netanyahu called for “crippling sanctions” against Iran.

The kind of blockade that Netanyahu wants qualifies as an act of war. Israel has long threatened to attack Iran on its own but prefers to draw in the US and NATO.

Why does Israel want to initiate a war between the United States and Iran?


Is Iran attacking other countries, bombing civilians and destroying civilian infrastructure?

No. These are crimes committed by Israel and the US.


Is Iran evicting peoples from lands they have occupied for centuries and herding them into ghettoes?

No, that’s what Israel has been doing to the Palestinians for 60 years.


What is Iran doing?

Iran is developing nuclear energy, which is its right as a signatory to the Non-Proliferation Treaty. Iran’s nuclear energy program is subject to inspections by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), which consistently reports that its inspections find no diversion of enriched uranium to a weapons program.

The position taken by Israel, and by Israel’s puppet in Washington, is that Iran must not be allowed to have the rights as a signatory to the Non-Proliferation Treaty that every other signatory has, because Iran might divert enriched uranium to a weapons program.

In other words, Israel and the US claim the right to abrogate Iran’s right to develop nuclear energy. The Israeli/US position has no basis in international law or in anything other than the arrogance of Israel and the United States.

The hypocrisy is extreme. Israel is not a signatory to the Non-Proliferation Treaty and developed its nuclear weapons illegally on the sly, with, as far as we know, US help.


As Israel is an illegal possessor of nuclear weapons and has a fanatical government that is capable of using them, crippling sanctions should be applied to Israel to force it to disarm.

Israel qualifies for crippling sanctions for another reason. It is an apartheid state, as former US President Jimmy Carter demonstrated in his book, Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid.


The US led the imposition of sanctions against South Africa because of South Africa’s apartheid practices. The sanctions forced the white government to hand over political power to the black population. Israel practices a worse form of apartheid than did the white South African government. Yet, Israel maintains that it is “anti-semitic” to criticize Israel for a practice that the world regards as abhorrent.

What remains of the Palestinian West Bank that has not been stolen by Israel consists of isolated ghettoes. Palestinians are cut off from hospitals, schools, their farms, and from one another. They cannot travel from one ghetto to another without Israeli permission enforced at checkpoints.

The Israeli government’s explanation for its gross violation of human rights comprises one of the greatest collection of lies in world history. No one, with the exception of American “christian zionists,” believes one word of it.

The United States also qualifies for crippling sanctions. Indeed, the US is over-qualified. On the basis of lies and intentional deception of the US Congress, the US public, the UN and NATO, the US government invaded Afghanistan and Iraq and used the “war on terror” that Washington orchestrated to overturn US civil liberties enshrined in the US Constitution. One million Iraqis have paid with their lives for America’s crimes and four million are displaced. Iraq and its infrastructure are in ruins, and Iraq’s professional elites, necessary to a modern organized society, are dead or dispersed. The US government has committed a war crime on a grand scale. If Iran qualifies for sanctions, the US qualifies a thousand times over.

No one knows how many women, children, and village elders have been murdered by the US in Afghanistan. However, the American war of aggression against the Afghan people is now in its ninth year. According to the US military, an American victory is still a long ways away. Admiral Michael Mullen, Chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, declared in August that the military situation in Afghanistan is “serious and deteriorating.”

Older Americans can look forward to the continuation of this war for the rest of their lives, while their Social Security and Medicare rights are reduced in order to free up funds for the US armaments industry. Bush/Cheney and Obama/Biden have made munitions the only safe stock investment in the United States.

What is the purpose of the war of aggression against Afghanistan? Soon after his inauguration, President Obama promised to provide an answer but did not. Instead, Obama quickly escalated the war in Afghanistan and launched a new one in Pakistan that has already displaced 2 million Pakistanis. Obama has sent 21,000 more US troops into Afghanistan and already the US commander in Afghanistan, General Stanley McChrystal, is requesting 20,000 more.

Obama is escalating America’s war of aggression against the Afghanistan people despite three high profile opinion polls that show that the American public is firmly opposed to the continuation of the war against Afghanistan.

Sadly, the ironclad agreement between Israel and Washington to war against Muslim peoples is far stronger than the connection between the American public and the American government. At a farewell dinner party last Thursday for Israel’s military attache in Washington, who is returning to Israel to become deputy chief of staff of the Israeli military, Admiral Mike Mullen, chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, Undersecretary of Defense Michele Flournoy, and and Dan Shapiro, who is in charge of Middle East affairs on the National Security Council, were present to pay their respects. Admiral Mullen declared that the US will always stand with Israel. No matter how many war crimes Israel commits. No matter how many women and children Israel murders. No many how many Palestinians Israel drives from their homes, villages, and lands. If truth could be told, the true axis-of-evil is the United States and Israel.

Millions of Americans are now homeless because of foreclosures. Millions more have lost their jobs, and even more millions have no access to health care. Yet, the US government continues to squander hundreds of billions of dollars on wars that serve no US purpose. President Obama and General McChrystal have taken the position that they know best, the American public be damned.

It could not be made any clearer that the President of the United States and the US military have no regard whatsoever for democracy, human rights, and international law. This is yet another reason to apply crippling sanctions against Washington, a government that has emerged under Bush/Obama as a brownshirt state that deals in lies, torture, murder, war crimes, and deception.

Many governments are complicit in America’s war crimes. With Obama’s budget deep in the red, Washington’s wars of naked aggression are dependent on financing by the Chinese, Japanese, Russians, Saudis, South Koreans, Indians, Canadians and Europeans. The second this foreign financing of American war crimes stops, America’s wars of aggression against Muslims stop.

The US is not a forever “superpower” that can indefinitely ignore its own laws and international law. The US will eventually fall as a result of its hubris, arrogance, and imperial overreach. When the American Empire collapses, will its enablers also be held accountable in the war crimes court?

Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan administration. He is coauthor of The Tyranny of Good Intentions.He can be reached at: PaulCraigRoberts@yahoo.com

You know wise Americans like this, Ron Paul, Jesse Ventura and any who speak up without fear gives me a lot of hope for this country.
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Sanctions against Israel = Anti-Semitic. As usual.

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Posted 9/3/09

drizza wrote:




Add more:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsOLYSJMRUs Ahmadinejad Interview with Larry King
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v65vhw5pkY4 Ahmadinejad Interview with Charlie Rose
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykd-syzZ4ZY Ahmadinejad on Holocaust

Israelis Are Not Jews and American Leaders Are Not Christian

Ahmadinejad answered all questions that all of us might want to know about Iran more than what media told us, propaganda.



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azera wrote:

Sanctions against Israel = Anti-Semitic. As usual.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6tyTSK6BjM
Opinion of Israel citizen about settlement and Obama.
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