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Do you dislike/hate Shou?
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Posted 11/9/08
I like him for his looks
but dislikes him for the way he treats kyouko
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I am a big Sho hater and as of episode 5 in the anime, i am a Ren hater too. My friend says Ren is actually nice...but he has a funny way of showing it.
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Not at all. You know, I don't think Sho really took Kyouko along to Tokyo just so she could be his maid. I mean, he was around a lot more in the beginning; the problems didn't start until he got popular. And from the flashbacks, it seems like he got along pretty well with Kyouko in the beginning, too. I think he took her along mostly for emotional support. He didn't want to be alone in a strange city. Also, you notice that Sho gets his manager to take care of him when she comes into the picture. He's affectionate toward her, but he also depends on her a lot. So it's like he didn't need Kyouko as much anymore.

It was wrong for Sho to treat Kyouko like that, but... he couldn't really love her. She devoted her life to serving him, and they weren't equals. Kyouko didn't have any interests of her own, and she never stood up for herself. He couldn't respect her because she didn't respect herself. Sho couldn't relate to Kyouko because she put herself below him; she wasn't on his level. Basically, Sho treated Kyouko like a maid because that was the role she assumed herself. That's why it's easy to believe that he actually does love her later, because she's become a much stronger person. She has an attractive personality at that point. You know, I think that Sho maybe didn't intend to really dump Kyouko like that. I think he was tired of her behavior and stopped coming around for that reason, and then he talked about her immaturely. But I think he always cared about her more than he let on, even if he doesn't know it. He didn't mind using her, but he always worried about her when she was upset over something like her mother.

And you know, Kyouko used Sho, too, in her own way. It wasn't mean like what Sho did, but... She basically put him in the role of her prince so she could live out her Cinderella fantasy. Kyouko had always been scorned by people like her mother, so she felt like the only way people would care about her was if she was useful to them. That's where she found her self-worth, and that's what she staked her happiness on. So waiting on Sho made Kyouko feel good about herself, and she was also depending on that to make her happy. She was dependent upon him for her self-worth and her happiness. That's a lot of pressure to put on another person. It's like she was trying to make him love her, and that's bad. No one wants to feel obligated to someone else. Also, Kyouko didn't really treat Sho like a real person. She ignored his flaws and preferred to see him as her "prince" than as who he really was. That's almost like saying that the real Sho wasn't good enough, he had to be an ideal for Kyouko.

I'm not really sure whether Kyouko really ever loved Sho in the first place. I think she cared about him as a friend, but she didn't get depressed when she found out the truth. I mean, I wouldn't expect her to mope around all the time, but it seems like she would have been at least a little sad. But the only thing she got sad about how she had wasted her life waiting on Sho. I think that Kyouko probably thought she was in love with Sho, but she was really in love with living out her fairy-tale life. Subconsciously, of course. I feel like it could've been someone else for her.

Anyway, I couldn't hate Sho. He's just too adorable. It's so cute how he's so childish. It's so funny when he acts like a little kid to his manager, or thinks about how wonderful he is, or loses his temper. I think Sho, more than being mean, was just immature. He was selfish with Kyouko the way a spoiled kid would've been. He's started to grow up a little now and take more responsibility, and that's really sweet, too. That scene where he took Kyouko that scar cream was just adorable. I think I really prefer Kyouko with Ren, but I like her with Sho, too. I love love/hate relationships, and their arguments are just adorable. You can tell how close they are. But I think Nakamura plans it so we don't ever like Sho/Kyouko too much. I noticed that instead of saying that he cares about Kyouko in vol. 15, he says she's still "his." I don't like his possessiveness. I think that's his childishness again, but it's still selfish. I do wish Kyouko would get over her hatred, though. As long as she's after revenge, she's still letting Sho determine her worth. She can only feel satisfied when he admits that she's won. I hope she realizes that eventually.
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i hate him, he's so full of himself.
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hmm...in the beginning i really think that sho is an idiot...really...so i hated him so much...

but eventually i discover new things about him and even admire him for his musical intelligence and a bit of his charm...

so gradually the hate started to decrease...but i can't say that i'll eventually like him entirely...maybe a little understanding but i'm not going too far to switch sides with him...after all, it was his fault in the first place that people (viewers/readers) will think of him as such (an "idiot" towards kyoko) and support the girl instead...
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Posted 11/11/08
i somewhat hate him a little... i really hope she gets her revenge soon
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Posted 11/16/08

attitudester wrote:

I like him for his looks
but dislikes him for the way he treats kyouko


same here!!!! if not for his smexiness, id probably hate him to the core...
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Hakajin wrote:

Not at all. You know, I don't think Sho really took Kyouko along to Tokyo just so she could be his maid. I mean, he was around a lot more in the beginning; the problems didn't start until he got popular. And from the flashbacks, it seems like he got along pretty well with Kyouko in the beginning, too. I think he took her along mostly for emotional support. He didn't want to be alone in a strange city. Also, you notice that Sho gets his manager to take care of him when she comes into the picture. He's affectionate toward her, but he also depends on her a lot. So it's like he didn't need Kyouko as much anymore.

It was wrong for Sho to treat Kyouko like that, but... he couldn't really love her. She devoted her life to serving him, and they weren't equals. Kyouko didn't have any interests of her own, and she never stood up for herself. He couldn't respect her because she didn't respect herself. Sho couldn't relate to Kyouko because she put herself below him; she wasn't on his level. Basically, Sho treated Kyouko like a maid because that was the role she assumed herself. That's why it's easy to believe that he actually does love her later, because she's become a much stronger person. She has an attractive personality at that point. You know, I think that Sho maybe didn't intend to really dump Kyouko like that. I think he was tired of her behavior and stopped coming around for that reason, and then he talked about her immaturely. But I think he always cared about her more than he let on, even if he doesn't know it. He didn't mind using her, but he always worried about her when she was upset over something like her mother.

And you know, Kyouko used Sho, too, in her own way. It wasn't mean like what Sho did, but... She basically put him in the role of her prince so she could live out her Cinderella fantasy. Kyouko had always been scorned by people like her mother, so she felt like the only way people would care about her was if she was useful to them. That's where she found her self-worth, and that's what she staked her happiness on. So waiting on Sho made Kyouko feel good about herself, and she was also depending on that to make her happy. She was dependent upon him for her self-worth and her happiness. That's a lot of pressure to put on another person. It's like she was trying to make him love her, and that's bad. No one wants to feel obligated to someone else. Also, Kyouko didn't really treat Sho like a real person. She ignored his flaws and preferred to see him as her "prince" than as who he really was. That's almost like saying that the real Sho wasn't good enough, he had to be an ideal for Kyouko.

I'm not really sure whether Kyouko really ever loved Sho in the first place. I think she cared about him as a friend, but she didn't get depressed when she found out the truth. I mean, I wouldn't expect her to mope around all the time, but it seems like she would have been at least a little sad. But the only thing she got sad about how she had wasted her life waiting on Sho. I think that Kyouko probably thought she was in love with Sho, but she was really in love with living out her fairy-tale life. Subconsciously, of course. I feel like it could've been someone else for her.

Anyway, I couldn't hate Sho. He's just too adorable. It's so cute how he's so childish. It's so funny when he acts like a little kid to his manager, or thinks about how wonderful he is, or loses his temper. I think Sho, more than being mean, was just immature. He was selfish with Kyouko the way a spoiled kid would've been. He's started to grow up a little now and take more responsibility, and that's really sweet, too. That scene where he took Kyouko that scar cream was just adorable. I think I really prefer Kyouko with Ren, but I like her with Sho, too. I love love/hate relationships, and their arguments are just adorable. You can tell how close they are. But I think Nakamura plans it so we don't ever like Sho/Kyouko too much. I noticed that instead of saying that he cares about Kyouko in vol. 15, he says she's still "his." I don't like his possessiveness. I think that's his childishness again, but it's still selfish. I do wish Kyouko would get over her hatred, though. As long as she's after revenge, she's still letting Sho determine her worth. She can only feel satisfied when he admits that she's won. I hope she realizes that eventually.


I love this long reply. I will think that Kyoko and Sho will be better off as friends than lovers (after reading this post ^^) while Kyoko and Ren will be as lovers =D

I'll agree with your assessment of Sho - he is immature and childish, more than that, he's confident of himself, perhaps displaying his confidence so much that it becomes arrogance... If I'm not wrong, he's 18, yes? Then that can explain his insensitivity at the beginning of the story and he has changed little by little as the plot progresses (= I think I like Sho because he has a vast character change in the story - one that I will say make-up of a good character in dramatic stories.
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as i have only seen the anime, yes i hate Sho. I hope he fails as a star. He is jealous of an established star and does not want to seem to work for his own fame. CRASH AND BURN!
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Posted 11/17/08
at first i really hate and despise him...but as i read the manga...and when i got into the beagle arc i started to like him, it shows that he really cares for kyouko...and he was about to confess what she means to him, right? but Ren found a way to stop it...nyahaha...i like him=70% i like ren=99.9% i like reino(beagle guy)=95%.^_^LOL
Posted 11/18/08
well in some way i still hate him, but when i read to the part after he finish his pv with kyoko, look like his mind has change about kyoko a lil bit, but i still hope kyoko end up with ren
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I love this long reply. I will think that Kyoko and Sho will be better off as friends than lovers (after reading this post ^^) while Kyoko and Ren will be as lovers =D

I'll agree with your assessment of Sho - he is immature and childish, more than that, he's confident of himself, perhaps displaying his confidence so much that it becomes arrogance... If I'm not wrong, he's 18, yes? Then that can explain his insensitivity at the beginning of the story and he has changed little by little as the plot progresses (= I think I like Sho because he has a vast character change in the story - one that I will say make-up of a good character in dramatic stories.


Oh, thank you. I'm glad someone actually read all that. Yeah, I like that about Sho, too. He starts off as an immature character, but he grows throughout the manga/anime. Most characters like that don't seem to learn anything.
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Well...I don't really hate nor like Shotaro though...I just feel that he has that impt part in the story. If he's not in the story, then would the story sounds as gd as it is now?

Still Kyoko and Ren being together is the best ending I could ever hope for
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Posted 11/19/08
Mii is dislike him for the personality and the way him treat Kyoko like Trash How CAn he do that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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i dislike his attitude but i like his appearence!
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