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Posted 11/9/08

what do u think?

in my opinion, well dat will be good...but its goin to based on people...
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does race really matter?
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does race really matter?


i nev say that, im saying that its based on the people
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That is possible but it may not happen very soon in the future. Probably in the far future because so far i haven't seen anyone in the political scene who is being horne to take over PM Lee...
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haha... i agree... i think pm lee has quite some way to go...
As for a minority race pm, well, the thing is that Singapore is based on multiracialism, so in elections, race should not matter. So it's possible that Singapore will one day have a malay or indian pm or while we're talking about that, why not caucasian, or someone from a mixed marriage... ^^ but also, SIngapore runs on meritocracy, so as long as the candidate can embody the values of Singapore, it doesnt matter what race or religion or background in general. But may i point out some things. As raised by our current pm, America has voted along racial lines still. And also, shouldnt we in our goal or attaining racial harmony and not just tolerance or ignorance, aim for a society that looks beyond race and sees people? And for this i not only refer to the citizens, but also the authorities.
I think no matter what the race, the hope is that we will exist in a society where people are not barred from opportunities based on who they are, but more than that, able to live life with dignity, with their needs met fully. Im not advocating a welfare state here though. But it's also a personal wish of mine to see the racial and in some cases religious boundaries be lowered significantly. Where help is not given to and by people primarily along racial lines. But that calls for individual effort then. ^^ and ive gone off-track and written another essay. haha, sorry.
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In my perspectives, when it comes to something as important as concluding the next PM, Singaporeans wouldn't give a damn about races. Though we don't get to directly vote who gets to be the next leader, at least we wouldn't make any complains knowing what's best for our country.
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haha... i agree... i think pm lee has quite some way to go...
As for a minority race pm, well, the thing is that Singapore is based on multiracialism, so in elections, race should not matter. So it's possible that Singapore will one day have a malay or indian pm or while we're talking about that, why not caucasian, or someone from a mixed marriage... ^^ but also, SIngapore runs on meritocracy, so as long as the candidate can embody the values of Singapore, it doesnt matter what race or religion or background in general. But may i point out some things. As raised by our current pm, America has voted along racial lines still. And also, shouldnt we in our goal or attaining racial harmony and not just tolerance or ignorance, aim for a society that looks beyond race and sees people? And for this i not only refer to the citizens, but also the authorities.
I think no matter what the race, the hope is that we will exist in a society where people are not barred from opportunities based on who they are, but more than that, able to live life with dignity, with their needs met fully. Im not advocating a welfare state here though. But it's also a personal wish of mine to see the racial and in some cases religious boundaries be lowered significantly. Where help is not given to and by people primarily along racial lines. But that calls for individual effort then. ^^ and ive gone off-track and written another essay. haha, sorry.


Surely what you've said is heartfelt but the lingering fact that certain religions still invokes followers to show biased viewpoints to fellow believers hinders your dreams for a racial/religion harmonious nation.
Not that I'm speaking ill upon such.
On your point about help not given regardless of race/religion, I don't see that as a problem at all in Singapore.
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Surely what you've said is heartfelt but the lingering fact that certain religions still invokes followers to show biased viewpoints to fellow believers hinders your dreams for a racial/religion harmonious nation.
Not that I'm speaking ill upon such.
On your point about help not given regardless of race/religion, I don't see that as a problem at all in Singapore.


haha... im impressed you bothered to read... and i agree... but it also begs the question, then is Singapore a country where religion takes place over nationality? If it does, and if race, which is tied to religion, even by the government, also takes precedence with regards to loyalty, then i guess you cant expect voters to put nation before their racial or religious groups.

and about the second point, im confused, but let me clarify what i meant. ^^ In Singapore, we see a depoliticization of help, such that some, is given through organizations such as SINDA, CDAC, and MENDAKI. But also beyond this, for organizations such as Ren Ci, many of the patients are chinese, in fact a large majority. I'm not sure about the rest, but it does seem that help is sought and help is given, along the CMIO lines, though not always, as in the case of hospitals and such. Of course, there are reasons why this is done, but my question is can it be done any other way?

But at the same time, i recognize that much of what is say is utopian "nonsense" and cannot be realized, or would be almost impossible to realize in the real world due to the complex nature of society. Unless, possibly, a genius such as lelouch vi britannia came along... haha
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prident wrote:



Surely what you've said is heartfelt but the lingering fact that certain religions still invokes followers to show biased viewpoints to fellow believers hinders your dreams for a racial/religion harmonious nation.
Not that I'm speaking ill upon such.
On your point about help not given regardless of race/religion, I don't see that as a problem at all in Singapore.


haha... im impressed you bothered to read... and i agree... but it also begs the question, then is Singapore a country where religion takes place over nationality? If it does, and if race, which is tied to religion, even by the government, also takes precedence with regards to loyalty, then i guess you cant expect voters to put nation before their racial or religious groups.

and about the second point, im confused, but let me clarify what i meant. ^^ In Singapore, we see a depoliticization of help, such that some, is given through organizations such as SINDA, CDAC, and MENDAKI. But also beyond this, for organizations such as Ren Ci, many of the patients are chinese, in fact a large majority. I'm not sure about the rest, but it does seem that help is sought and help is given, along the CMIO lines, though not always, as in the case of hospitals and such. Of course, there are reasons why this is done, but my question is can it be done any other way?

But at the same time, i recognize that much of what is say is utopian "nonsense" and cannot be realized, or would be almost impossible to realize in the real world due to the complex nature of society. Unless, possibly, a genius such as lelouch vi britannia came along... haha


You bothered to write so I'll read. haha
Mmm..which is why the government also instilled a brilliant counter to that with the ratio balance of races in political parties. Just so that the people maintain a healthy mindset of voting for the right reasons.

I most definitely do not think that your idea of having things done differing from the CMIO model is too far-fetched as to be classified as impractical or unrealistic. My perspective of why this is such is because individuals feel more at ease being amongst their own groups..y'know, like how you'd rather your own toilet bowl than your neighbors? It's a nature of humans, really...
But also, not like no one's doing a neutral job in helping others..Red Cross for example, non-political, non-religious. It'll really help if more organizations like such is made...when it comes to helping out, everyone does a part..leaving the religious practices to each own personal time.

And yeah..maybe that's why people like us love watching anime, something apart from the real world that we all fantasize about.
Kinda sad when you realize that actually..lol
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