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Selfishly Lying About Illegitimate Fansubs, The Internet Bullies
Posted 11/10/08 , edited 11/11/08
The Internet Defamation Law is a tort law that allows one person may be held liable for damaging another's reputation over the internet. It's based on the real life defamation law, which defines defamation is the communication of a statement that makes a false claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may give an individual, business, product, group, government or nation a negative image.

In my last topic, I made a claim that the internet fansub groups are stealing from anime studios. And my claim was based on the fact that the internet fansubs groups violated the TRIPS agreement and the Berne Convention, when they distributed illegitimate anime fansubs for free, and thus overpopulated the global anime market.

http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-371988/The-Anime-Fansub-Groups-Stealing-From-Anime-Studio-One-Episode-At-A-Time.html

However, my topic got the attention of a group of internet bullies, and they sprog into action by targeting my topic and my person in their secret CR group forum. Here's a screen shot on the post regarding my topic, please pay attention on the use of words "if you like fansub kill him" at the end of the post:

And without fail, this group of internet bullies begone attacking my person with flamers and trolls, while at the same time misinforming the CR users with false claims. Here are detailed screen shots of their flamers and trolls like actions, while they selfishly lied about illegitimate fansubs:

Here's AnimeKami with his claim on "a good theory" without facts:

Here's -Athrine- with his claim on "saying the whole anime industry is losing money thats so selfish":

Here's -Athrine- back with his claim on "there losing money but only the north american anime industry":

Here's -Athrine- back again with his claim on "Holy crap wtf is this shit":

Here's GoPlayGo with his claim on "I see an idiot with no good rebuttal trying to sound smart":

Here's GoPlayGo back with his claim on "oh look at me, i am zendude. When a business has no profit in it any more, lets invest even more in it and lose more money!!!! oh man i am so smart i should be the president of idiotville":

Here's GoPlayGo back again with his claim on "Oh whats wrong? u deleted all our latest reply to u. Having a hard time thinking of a rebuttal? Pretty shameful when you quoted some and can't quote back then turn to reporting to mods."

Here's robihr with his claim on "fansubs are not guilty of stealing money from "weak powerless " anime studios"

Here's robihr back with his claim on "it doesnt influence anime studios directly"

Here's WhereEaglesFly with his claim on "piracy is already in history... so as the anime piracy":

Here's xO_Skittles_Ox with her claim on "You're 30? and you can't have a civilized conversation with Bk about this?"

Here's xO_Skittles_Ox back with her claim on "so either you're "bored and in need of a life" or "you're trolling", take your pick? Do you really need this much time to come up with a "decent" reply?":


These flamings and trolling posts made by the internet bullies went beyond control, to a point that CR forum mod Jorlwind locked my topic. And right after that, I got a personal message from GoPlayGo with his claim on "LOL! got your thread locked. Told you so":


So is this the internet fansub groups had become, with internet bullies as their biggest supporters? They would lie about fansubs being free, and overpopulate the market at the cost of nothing? They would spend misconceptions about the industry to misinform their fans, and just pretend that everything is fine as it should be? They would attack anything that threaten their position, by acting like some presto intellects without facts and reasoning? They would steal from anime studios, yet lie about them violating the TRIPS agreement and the Berne Convention, by saying these illegitimate fansubs were all free? This is nothing like the fansub groups that I was once in 13 years ago. These kind of behaviors of flamers, trolls, and false claims were out right criminal by law!

Remember, what internet bullies are doing with their flamers, trolls and false claim like behaviors can be interpreted as violations on the internet defamation law:


Before I open the topic for discussions, I want to remind everyone that flamers and trolls are strictly prohibited on this thread. So DO NOT REPLY, DO NOT GIVE THEM ANYTHING TO FEED OFF FROM. Remember to state your claim with facts or sound reasoning, and respect others by responding to their claim likewise.

And now I open the topic for discussions.
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Posted 11/10/08 , edited 11/10/08
Wait! While I agree at most of your points in anime industry in the past. I think it is hypocritical to make this 'name-calling' thread while saying that flamers and trolls are strictly prohibited on this thread when it is, by far, common sense to believe that is thread is an act of 'trolling' and 'flaming' due to use of 'name-calling'.

To my understanding, this is more of an "anti-bullies" thread than an "anti-fansub" thread.
Posted 11/10/08
okay, it's fine that you wanted to post it

but making putting up other user's opinion is just the same . . .

great god, you're a hypocrite
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Good lord, the rage is strong in here.
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So, basically, you just need attention on the internet? I seem to deduce this, due to the fact that you refuted people's points when it clearly doesn't match the topic. Another thing is that you are only held liable if you do not provide any support that you defamed a person with evidence. By the way, if "cyber bullies" really do piss you off, I suggest you get out of the internet. Besides, your point contradicts your statement, you said not to "reply" to internet "bullies", yet you clearly are replying to them indirectly. I vouch this topic to be locked AGAIN because of not only this topic encourages flaming, but also by having the first post ALMOST COMPLETELY off topic.
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Posted 11/10/08
Meh ... wtf I'm trying to watch anime ...


Funny, how most of my post doesn't even show?

You call me the "internet bully" but I was the one that reported the thread to Jorlwind to begin with? Also, intsead of throwing around random insults toward people, why don't you take a look at yourself for moment. Did you not criticize Bk? I'm sensing a hypocrite.

Fix up your brain, instead of criticizing others. Nothing you say has any purpose or logic. Get the fuck out.

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Posted 11/10/08

BrylleNoGotoku wrote:

Wait! While I agree at most of your points in anime industry in the past. I think it is hypocritical to make this 'name-calling' thread while saying that flamers and trolls are strictly prohibited on this thread when it is, by far, common sense to believe that is thread is an act of 'trolling' and 'flaming' due to use of 'name-calling'.

To my understanding, this is more of an "anti-bullies" thread than an "anti-fansub" thread.


Remember, it's only a violation when the claim was made false without facts nor reasoning. And that's not the case with this topic at all.

And it may look like "anti-bullies" to you, but the fact is these internet bullies are the strongest voice that's representing the internet fansub groups so far, with their act of defamation on anime industry.
Posted 11/10/08

DomFortress wrote:


BrylleNoGotoku wrote:

Wait! While I agree at most of your points in anime industry in the past. I think it is hypocritical to make this 'name-calling' thread while saying that flamers and trolls are strictly prohibited on this thread when it is, by far, common sense to believe that is thread is an act of 'trolling' and 'flaming' due to use of 'name-calling'.

To my understanding, this is more of an "anti-bullies" thread than an "anti-fansub" thread.


Remember, it's only a violation when the claim was made false without facts nor reasoning. And that's not the case with this topic at all.

And it may look like "anti-bullies" to you, but the fact is these internet bullies are the strongest voice that's representing the internet fansub groups so far, with their act of defamation on anime industry.


The claim could be made without reasoning, as long as it doesn't defame your reputation. I highly doubt you'd get your reputation damaged on teh internetz from strangers.
Posted 11/10/08

TimeHollow wrote:


DomFortress wrote:


BrylleNoGotoku wrote:

Wait! While I agree at most of your points in anime industry in the past. I think it is hypocritical to make this 'name-calling' thread while saying that flamers and trolls are strictly prohibited on this thread when it is, by far, common sense to believe that is thread is an act of 'trolling' and 'flaming' due to use of 'name-calling'.

To my understanding, this is more of an "anti-bullies" thread than an "anti-fansub" thread.


Remember, it's only a violation when the claim was made false without facts nor reasoning. And that's not the case with this topic at all.

And it may look like "anti-bullies" to you, but the fact is these internet bullies are the strongest voice that's representing the internet fansub groups so far, with their act of defamation on anime industry.


The claim could be made without reasoning, as long as it doesn't defame your reputation. I highly doubt you'd get your reputation damaged on teh internetz from strangers.


Yes you can. Just look at all the bad things that the internet bullies had said about the North American licensing industry on the internet, you can see just how these false claims can do to the licensing companies' reputation.
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