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It doesnt mean that Yuki and Zero will end up together, cause ive read that in the end (SPOILER!) ,
Zero points his bloody rose gun on Yuki and attempts to kill her, because she has become a vampire.


well actually, he doesn't ATTEMPT to kill her, cuz it seems like you're implying that he tried to SHOOT HER...but to me, it's kinda clear that he won't kill her...especially ever since chapter 44 was scanned...besides, he loves her WAY TOO MUCH...haha...zero and yuuki baby!


I think so too! But I doubt that he will be with her. Maybe he will just run away?


well if he runs away, i would probably kill him...haha...sorry, that's a little dramatic...but i'm a die-hard zero and yuuki fan so i REALLY HOPE that they will still end up together...it's just another lover's quarrel...haha (STAYING OPTIMISTIC!)


kaname fans says that zero is week...that's so a shallow reason...,,, how can he be weak when... all the hard time he went through he still lived and he's trying to restrain himself on becoming a vampire...he demonstrates a strong will of heart even though yuuki left him...he still wants to do his thing...he rocks and that is a good thing...i dunno if you understand...but he has this sense of dignity.... that other characters dont have... weak minded.... kaname fans are saying that zero is weak minded...most of them because he still cant get over it...you can never get over from an experience like that and it will take a lifetime.......and about about something scary as that..for god sake he lost his family...that is basically a human instict ,thoughts and feelings...kaname fans dont understand that...its a basic knowledge
zero is a kind person....evidence...he didnt killed yuuki....even though he has so much grudge towards vampires...and he despises them....i love zero man.....this must be a zero and yuuki lovestory!rock on!


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Rido Kuran (玖蘭 李土, Kuran Ridō?) is a pureblood vampire, Shizuka Hio's former fiancé, Senri Shiki's father, and elder brother to Haruka and Juri Kuran. He is the main antagonist of the story. According to Asato Ichijo, he is the true head of the Kuran family. Ten years ago, seeking to take the Kuran princess, Yuki, Rido killed his brother, Haruka. Kaname attempted to kill Rido, but found he was unable to and a triumphant Rido revealed that as the one who resurrected Kaname, he is Kaname's master[13]. Instead Kaname reduced Rido to the state where he required another pureblood vampire's blood in order to revive fully.

Secretly aided by the Ancient Vampire Council and the Hunters' Association, Rido manipulates events from the shadows by transferring his soul to other bodies and taking control. Rido possesses eyes of two different colors (crimson and blue), and when his soul is transferred to a different body, that body has the same eyes. When Rido takes possession of Shiki's body, he goes to Cross Academy. After a brief confrontation with Kaname and later Rima, Kaname gives his blood to Rido's body in order to restore Rido to his original body.

Ichiru reveals that Rido is the one who added Shizuka's ex-human lover to the list of Level E vampires to be liquidated by the Hunter's Association and attempts to kill Rido as revenge for Shizuka, but instead is mortally wounded. Following his true body's revival, Rido's vampires sense his revival and begin to attack the school students in order to capture prey for Rido to feed on. Rido attempts to compel Aido to feed upon him, but is thwarted by his niece. Seeing Yuki's resemblance to her mother, Rido changes his original desire from eating Yuki (in order to gain power) to taking Yuki as his lover as a replacement for Juri[14], who he loved but never wanted him. Rido's life comes to an end when he is defeated by Yuki and Zero.
huraay witch means zero and yuuki end up together


yay,,,,,!!! zero and yuuki...im dying to see them together...i hope they will end up together...really really hope.....




yuuki almost killed rido and zero knock her off the top of the academy then after rido died zero is trying to kill yuuki. Uh and tons of other jerk's thing he done as well which make me hate zero.

uh and i read this out of the manga it self.


i read the manga and im well updated what's happenin...and were still arent sure how it will end so....stop saying yuuki's gonna end up with kaname....cuz the manga is still going on...i am aware of what's happenin....zero isnt hatable at all...yuuki was the one who first betrayed him...yuuki knows from the start that zero despise vampires..but still she chose to be a vampire and chose kaname...basically all zero did was letting her go..and yuuki knows what she will be dealing with....put that in mind....then zero betrayed her...and as far as the manga goes,,,,, i think kaname is more hatable..... his attitude is not really good....... his possessive and so envious towards zero,,,and that characteristic is not good...,,,, no humility at all...and he's so cunning...master of deception....he utterly have a split personality.........and there's something mischievious about him that makes him not trustworthy...and about pacifism...i dont believe in that shit...after yuuki is a pureblood....I dont know if you understand...what i mean about zero about..... even though yuuki is a vampire...he still carry on doing his thing in spite of everything...in chapter 44...zero cant kill yuuki..because it shows how much he had been attatched to her...and i believe it should be zero and yuuki in the end...theyve been together through weakness,pain and they both help each other through everything... yea kaname is protecting yuuki...in a way he is...but it is a matter of being together,,,,and standing up from everything...kaname became distant with yuuki since the start of the establishment of the cross academy..and zero was there...always and since they were young...they were together always....and there love is much much purer........so it should be yuuki and zero....i thing its a mistake if it's yuuki and kaname even though they have a past compared it to zero....it's much beautiful and purer....i dunno anyways lets see...........



never said she end up with kaname hell she may not end up with any one she mite die. but i despise zero
Uh and kaname does not like fighting all he wants is yuuki to be safe and happy.
hat why he manipulated zero all this time to kill rido.

i will tell you why i hate zero.
think what you want from it.
First yes bad thing happened to him as a kid. However how he treat vampire is like saying a some one from Russia killed my parents so every one from ti most be evil.
this is just a side reason why i hate him.
The reason i hate him is his weak minded. so weak that he can't get over what happened to him always wanting to die yuuki since they was young always did things to help him always trying her best for him.
However he never change he kept the same attitude. Uh and all those flash back was of her helping him doing things for him. Uh and she never betrayed any one. she was born a pure blood so of course she would become one sooner are later again. Plus she never even showed a bit of feeling more then a friend towards zero. she showed over and over again that she loved kaname.
so she don't even love zero that way so i don't even see how they can be together.
Uh and from some one who have been through terrible events and never had some oen to lay on to care about em like zero did and i still made it through and became better over time from it. which zero never did get over it. he still cry's about ti all the time still wanting to die he is so weak. A lot more of his attitude piss me off.



no i do think zero has a strong heart....what are you talkin about weak minded...all the years he's been restraing his self to be a vampire.....he's fighting it in the best he could.....and he has a strong heart even though yuuki was a vampire still...he didnt gave up in everything...is that what you call weak....you know the thing kaname is different frrom zero because kaname already had the power from the start but zero doesnt have anything...and yet he continues to live for yuuki...even though a lot of things happened...he still couldnt kill yuuki.....it just happened that yuuki is a vampire...and he loves her...he's not weak....

we still dont know about kaname and zero....yuuki has strong feelings for zero also. and she might realize this if zero confess to her..and as far as i can tell yuuki missess her previous life. theyre might be a twist..and it's still going....
i dont you kaname fans cant see that yuuki might have feelings for zero and this thing is a test for them to realize how important their relationship is...its the differences that made them be together and parted ways...zero exempifies a strong will of heart and that is why many thinks zero is the vampire knight. yuuki from the start is will to risk her life for zero just so she he can survive,he always worry about him...and always care for him...and no specific description about zero to her...we stll dont know what she thinks about zero...and about zero bad thing that happened to him since he was a kid...you can never get over on such a terrible thing and that relates in real life...also...and he lost everything..you cant blame him being by that time...and mentally derange...

Zero's will oto fight and feelings are fighting....and that makes him indecisive...put yourself in his situation...it just made it so realistic...

"However how he treat vampire is like saying a some one from Russia killed my parents so every one from ti most be evil."
i dont understand this...this is an anime..how can it be related to your story...it's hard to believe sorry...



not a kaname lover just hate zero.
And about relating stuff human kind always relate and compare life to story's
It how we get story's in the first place.
the thing i said about Russia was a saying to show you how he treats vampire is wrong.
Zero is extremely weak. So what tons of bad stuff happened to him get over it and move on and if more bad stuff happens get over it to and moves on. Who the fuck cares if some thing bad happened any way unlike a lot of people/characters who have bad stuff happened to them. At lest he have had yuuki to care for him and he still a idiot. All you done is change what eh actually have done a bit to try and make him look good.
The truth is he's extremely weak and the reason he have kept form falling to lvl E is not because he strong but because of his hatred. I personally think yuuki deserve way better then zero are kaname however out of teh two kaname is a bit better. It extremely easy to tell that yuuki and zero want be together.
When every i see a character as weak as him that they can't get over something which happened to them it get's on my nerves. Their are humans who have had much more terrible stuff happened to them and have never had any one to care for them unlike zero and have made it out good.

UH and if zero so great explain this to me why he knock yuuki off the roof of the academy right before she killed rido. Plus she does not look lonely sad are any thing. She back to being are true self all this time she was being false being something she was not. now she back to being her true self. uh and he have not stop trying to kill yuuki yet he is standing their and their a part of him who does not want to but he is still standing their trying to get him self to do it.

their 3 types of people who like zero
first those who say his hot so he most be a good guy
second those who see he been through a bad experience
and is like ya he not perfect but eh try's so hard for what he been through which is pity
third those who like cruel guys it turn them on.
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Zero and yuki
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Iamthedreamer wrote:


cloudji wrote:


Iamthedreamer wrote:


cloudji wrote:


Iamthedreamer wrote:


firestar1323 wrote:

Rido Kuran (玖蘭 李土, Kuran Ridō?) is a pureblood vampire, Shizuka Hio's former fiancé, Senri Shiki's father, and elder brother to Haruka and Juri Kuran. He is the main antagonist of the story. According to Asato Ichijo, he is the true head of the Kuran family. Ten years ago, seeking to take the Kuran princess, Yuki, Rido killed his brother, Haruka. Kaname attempted to kill Rido, but found he was unable to and a triumphant Rido revealed that as the one who resurrected Kaname, he is Kaname's master[13]. Instead Kaname reduced Rido to the state where he required another pureblood vampire's blood in order to revive fully.

Secretly aided by the Ancient Vampire Council and the Hunters' Association, Rido manipulates events from the shadows by transferring his soul to other bodies and taking control. Rido possesses eyes of two different colors (crimson and blue), and when his soul is transferred to a different body, that body has the same eyes. When Rido takes possession of Shiki's body, he goes to Cross Academy. After a brief confrontation with Kaname and later Rima, Kaname gives his blood to Rido's body in order to restore Rido to his original body.

Ichiru reveals that Rido is the one who added Shizuka's ex-human lover to the list of Level E vampires to be liquidated by the Hunter's Association and attempts to kill Rido as revenge for Shizuka, but instead is mortally wounded. Following his true body's revival, Rido's vampires sense his revival and begin to attack the school students in order to capture prey for Rido to feed on. Rido attempts to compel Aido to feed upon him, but is thwarted by his niece. Seeing Yuki's resemblance to her mother, Rido changes his original desire from eating Yuki (in order to gain power) to taking Yuki as his lover as a replacement for Juri[14], who he loved but never wanted him. Rido's life comes to an end when he is defeated by Yuki and Zero.
huraay witch means zero and yuuki end up together


yay,,,,,!!! zero and yuuki...im dying to see them together...i hope they will end up together...really really hope.....




yuuki almost killed rido and zero knock her off the top of the academy then after rido died zero is trying to kill yuuki. Uh and tons of other jerk's thing he done as well which make me hate zero.

uh and i read this out of the manga it self.


i read the manga and im well updated what's happenin...and were still arent sure how it will end so....stop saying yuuki's gonna end up with kaname....cuz the manga is still going on...i am aware of what's happenin....zero isnt hatable at all...yuuki was the one who first betrayed him...yuuki knows from the start that zero despise vampires..but still she chose to be a vampire and chose kaname...basically all zero did was letting her go..and yuuki knows what she will be dealing with....put that in mind....then zero betrayed her...and as far as the manga goes,,,,, i think kaname is more hatable..... his attitude is not really good....... his possessive and so envious towards zero,,,and that characteristic is not good...,,,, no humility at all...and he's so cunning...master of deception....he utterly have a split personality.........and there's something mischievious about him that makes him not trustworthy...and about pacifism...i dont believe in that shit...after yuuki is a pureblood....I dont know if you understand...what i mean about zero about..... even though yuuki is a vampire...he still carry on doing his thing in spite of everything...in chapter 44...zero cant kill yuuki..because it shows how much he had been attatched to her...and i believe it should be zero and yuuki in the end...theyve been together through weakness,pain and they both help each other through everything... yea kaname is protecting yuuki...in a way he is...but it is a matter of being together,,,,and standing up from everything...kaname became distant with yuuki since the start of the establishment of the cross academy..and zero was there...always and since they were young...they were together always....and there love is much much purer........so it should be yuuki and zero....i thing its a mistake if it's yuuki and kaname even though they have a past compared it to zero....it's much beautiful and purer....i dunno anyways lets see...........



never said she end up with kaname hell she may not end up with any one she mite die. but i despise zero
Uh and kaname does not like fighting all he wants is yuuki to be safe and happy.
hat why he manipulated zero all this time to kill rido.

i will tell you why i hate zero.
think what you want from it.
First yes bad thing happened to him as a kid. However how he treat vampire is like saying a some one from Russia killed my parents so every one from ti most be evil.
this is just a side reason why i hate him.
The reason i hate him is his weak minded. so weak that he can't get over what happened to him always wanting to die yuuki since they was young always did things to help him always trying her best for him.
However he never change he kept the same attitude. Uh and all those flash back was of her helping him doing things for him. Uh and she never betrayed any one. she was born a pure blood so of course she would become one sooner are later again. Plus she never even showed a bit of feeling more then a friend towards zero. she showed over and over again that she loved kaname.
so she don't even love zero that way so i don't even see how they can be together.
Uh and from some one who have been through terrible events and never had some oen to lay on to care about em like zero did and i still made it through and became better over time from it. which zero never did get over it. he still cry's about ti all the time still wanting to die he is so weak. A lot more of his attitude piss me off.



no i do think zero has a strong heart....what are you talkin about weak minded...all the years he's been restraing his self to be a vampire.....he's fighting it in the best he could.....and he has a strong heart even though yuuki was a vampire still...he didnt gave up in everything...is that what you call weak....you know the thing kaname is different frrom zero because kaname already had the power from the start but zero doesnt have anything...and yet he continues to live for yuuki...even though a lot of things happened...he still couldnt kill yuuki.....it just happened that yuuki is a vampire...and he loves her...he's not weak....

we still dont know about kaname and zero....yuuki has strong feelings for zero also. and she might realize this if zero confess to her..and as far as i can tell yuuki missess her previous life. theyre might be a twist..and it's still going....
i dont you kaname fans cant see that yuuki might have feelings for zero and this thing is a test for them to realize how important their relationship is...its the differences that made them be together and parted ways...zero exempifies a strong will of heart and that is why many thinks zero is the vampire knight. yuuki from the start is will to risk her life for zero just so she he can survive,he always worry about him...and always care for him...and no specific description about zero to her...we stll dont know what she thinks about zero...and about zero bad thing that happened to him since he was a kid...you can never get over on such a terrible thing and that relates in real life...also...and he lost everything..you cant blame him being by that time...and mentally derange...

Zero's will oto fight and feelings are fighting....and that makes him indecisive...put yourself in his situation...it just made it so realistic...

"However how he treat vampire is like saying a some one from Russia killed my parents so every one from ti most be evil."
i dont understand this...this is an anime..how can it be related to your story...it's hard to believe sorry...



not a kaname lover just hate zero.
And about relating stuff human kind always relate and compare life to story's
It how we get story's in the first place.
the thing i said about Russia was a saying to show you how he treats vampire is wrong.
Zero is extremely weak. So what tons of bad stuff happened to him get over it and move on and if more bad stuff happens get over it to and moves on. Who the fuck cares if some thing bad happened any way unlike a lot of people/characters who have bad stuff happened to them. At lest he have had yuuki to care for him and he still a idiot. All you done is change what eh actually have done a bit to try and make him look good.
The truth is he's extremely weak and the reason he have kept form falling to lvl E is not because he strong but because of his hatred. I personally think yuuki deserve way better then zero are kaname however out of teh two kaname is a bit better. It extremely easy to tell that yuuki and zero want be together.
When every i see a character as weak as him that they can't get over something which happened to them it get's on my nerves. Their are humans who have had much more terrible stuff happened to them and have never had any one to care for them unlike zero and have made it out good.

UH and if zero so great explain this to me why he knock yuuki off the roof of the academy right before she killed rido. Plus she does not look lonely sad are any thing. She back to being are true self all this time she was being false being something she was not. now she back to being her true self. uh and he have not stop trying to kill yuuki yet he is standing their and their a part of him who does not want to but he is still standing their trying to get him self to do it.

their 3 types of people who like zero
first those who say his hot so he most be a good guy
second those who see he been through a bad experience
and is like ya he not perfect but eh try's so hard for what he been through which is pity
third those who like cruel guys it turn them on.


no you were wrong about the type tpes.......yuuki and zero been together through hardships and pain...they live together, they go to their academy together...love will surely develop between the two of them..and zero even though he knows thay yuuki likes kaname still he did not make her his own possession.,,,,she's free to do what she wants.. he selflessly love yuuki..... he's patient, kind, not jealous, does not delight in evil.... kaname delights in evil...he shows too much of his dark side....and he's off killing many vampires and sometimes i get lost to the manga.....what are you talkin about he has not stop...when he cant kill...her....we still dont know whether zero will kill yuuki but the thing is...he has great attachment to yuuki...and he loves yuuki...this is a test...

and about cruel guys...kaname was the one acting cruel throughout the serious...he's the one being mischievios....and ambitiouss,,,,,zero only wanted to protect yuuki so not she could not be a vampire....and about the level e thing....why do you say it's about the hatred thing...i swear they never mention it in the manga and in the series....zero was biten by shizuka that's why........and kaname....you like kaname because he' protecting yuuki...what have zero havent done...anyway to yuuki that kanme did to her....and as afar as we can tell zero has more attatchment with her life..and they sood up together through everything.. zero was the one who's being hurt all this time.... and he never tried to possess yuuki... kaname is too egoistic too cunning... he protected yuuki in a way...and he became distant to her...then now because of his jealousy.. he took yuuki....from zero..and used zero as his puppet.... trying to act bossy bossy all the time and he doesnt treat his fellow vampires good... i dont trust him...zero is way much better than kaname...in terms personality and determination,,.

reasons why kaname fans like kaname....
his so hot.... he's a pure blood
his cunning and mysterious personality is so hot
he's a bishounen
he protects yuuki
they had a past together,,,,,,,,,,,,,,>>>>>>>>>>>>> even so yuuki had a past with kaname it still nohing compared with zero...she already had the past and the present with zero..and it's purer and beautiful....

You can never get over it when your family dies...and that relates in real life...you can never forget it...move on..you can move on but not completely...that's a human thought, insticat and feelings..that's only a basic knowledge...
what about kaname...'s treatment to the vampires......he treats them like shit...

zero is really something in this series..he made it through everything even if yuuki turned out to be a vampire...
Worst? what do you mean worst...then describe what worst is? he's been blamed for the death of shizuka, he lost his family, he lost yuuki the woman she loved, being treated as shit, being controlled, fighting his way through alive by resisting the level e that resides in him.....what else... failed love, betrayed, all he had now is only his pride....a person who have nothing pride is only that matters but still he still in love with yuuki..... weak...damn he's not weak,,,who will made it through alive like that....kaname has everything from the start...i hate kaname...he's selfish ambitious cunning crafty sly mysterious and not trustworthy.....he's a master of deception....and all his plans are just going on so smoothly...and it's annoyin...he wants everything for himself...he's so spoiled...he thinks too high of himself....and i dont think can love truly...he's only filling up the emptiness of his selfishness...and ambitions...and he acts as if he's more like a big brother....it will be fine if he's only a big brother...but in the extent he's too much....

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Seriously guys, i think you are ALL talking based on your preferences. But this is the truth, Yuuki already loves Zero (She has done Everything to protect him), but is not the same love she has for Kaname.
Even if you hate Kaname, you have to accept that Everything he´s done has been for Yuuki´s sake.
And even if you hate Zero, you alsa have to accept that he really deserves to be loved by yuuki, after everything he´s done for her.

Anyways, i think that in the end, Yuuki will end up with Kaname (that´s what i see coming thankt to the manga), and may be Zero will die, (i sure hope not, because i love him). Or who knows what will happen. Mangakas like to always give their readers a lot of surprises.
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Iamthedreamer wrote:


cloudji wrote:


Iamthedreamer wrote:


cloudji wrote:


Iamthedreamer wrote:


cloudji wrote:


Iamthedreamer wrote:


firestar1323 wrote:

Rido Kuran (玖蘭 李土, Kuran Ridō?) is a pureblood vampire, Shizuka Hio's former fiancé, Senri Shiki's father, and elder brother to Haruka and Juri Kuran. He is the main antagonist of the story. According to Asato Ichijo, he is the true head of the Kuran family. Ten years ago, seeking to take the Kuran princess, Yuki, Rido killed his brother, Haruka. Kaname attempted to kill Rido, but found he was unable to and a triumphant Rido revealed that as the one who resurrected Kaname, he is Kaname's master[13]. Instead Kaname reduced Rido to the state where he required another pureblood vampire's blood in order to revive fully.

Secretly aided by the Ancient Vampire Council and the Hunters' Association, Rido manipulates events from the shadows by transferring his soul to other bodies and taking control. Rido possesses eyes of two different colors (crimson and blue), and when his soul is transferred to a different body, that body has the same eyes. When Rido takes possession of Shiki's body, he goes to Cross Academy. After a brief confrontation with Kaname and later Rima, Kaname gives his blood to Rido's body in order to restore Rido to his original body.

Ichiru reveals that Rido is the one who added Shizuka's ex-human lover to the list of Level E vampires to be liquidated by the Hunter's Association and attempts to kill Rido as revenge for Shizuka, but instead is mortally wounded. Following his true body's revival, Rido's vampires sense his revival and begin to attack the school students in order to capture prey for Rido to feed on. Rido attempts to compel Aido to feed upon him, but is thwarted by his niece. Seeing Yuki's resemblance to her mother, Rido changes his original desire from eating Yuki (in order to gain power) to taking Yuki as his lover as a replacement for Juri[14], who he loved but never wanted him. Rido's life comes to an end when he is defeated by Yuki and Zero.
huraay witch means zero and yuuki end up together


yay,,,,,!!! zero and yuuki...im dying to see them together...i hope they will end up together...really really hope.....




yuuki almost killed rido and zero knock her off the top of the academy then after rido died zero is trying to kill yuuki. Uh and tons of other jerk's thing he done as well which make me hate zero.

uh and i read this out of the manga it self.


i read the manga and im well updated what's happenin...and were still arent sure how it will end so....stop saying yuuki's gonna end up with kaname....cuz the manga is still going on...i am aware of what's happenin....zero isnt hatable at all...yuuki was the one who first betrayed him...yuuki knows from the start that zero despise vampires..but still she chose to be a vampire and chose kaname...basically all zero did was letting her go..and yuuki knows what she will be dealing with....put that in mind....then zero betrayed her...and as far as the manga goes,,,,, i think kaname is more hatable..... his attitude is not really good....... his possessive and so envious towards zero,,,and that characteristic is not good...,,,, no humility at all...and he's so cunning...master of deception....he utterly have a split personality.........and there's something mischievious about him that makes him not trustworthy...and about pacifism...i dont believe in that shit...after yuuki is a pureblood....I dont know if you understand...what i mean about zero about..... even though yuuki is a vampire...he still carry on doing his thing in spite of everything...in chapter 44...zero cant kill yuuki..because it shows how much he had been attatched to her...and i believe it should be zero and yuuki in the end...theyve been together through weakness,pain and they both help each other through everything... yea kaname is protecting yuuki...in a way he is...but it is a matter of being together,,,,and standing up from everything...kaname became distant with yuuki since the start of the establishment of the cross academy..and zero was there...always and since they were young...they were together always....and there love is much much purer........so it should be yuuki and zero....i thing its a mistake if it's yuuki and kaname even though they have a past compared it to zero....it's much beautiful and purer....i dunno anyways lets see...........



never said she end up with kaname hell she may not end up with any one she mite die. but i despise zero
Uh and kaname does not like fighting all he wants is yuuki to be safe and happy.
hat why he manipulated zero all this time to kill rido.

i will tell you why i hate zero.
think what you want from it.
First yes bad thing happened to him as a kid. However how he treat vampire is like saying a some one from Russia killed my parents so every one from ti most be evil.
this is just a side reason why i hate him.
The reason i hate him is his weak minded. so weak that he can't get over what happened to him always wanting to die yuuki since they was young always did things to help him always trying her best for him.
However he never change he kept the same attitude. Uh and all those flash back was of her helping him doing things for him. Uh and she never betrayed any one. she was born a pure blood so of course she would become one sooner are later again. Plus she never even showed a bit of feeling more then a friend towards zero. she showed over and over again that she loved kaname.
so she don't even love zero that way so i don't even see how they can be together.
Uh and from some one who have been through terrible events and never had some oen to lay on to care about em like zero did and i still made it through and became better over time from it. which zero never did get over it. he still cry's about ti all the time still wanting to die he is so weak. A lot more of his attitude piss me off.



no i do think zero has a strong heart....what are you talkin about weak minded...all the years he's been restraing his self to be a vampire.....he's fighting it in the best he could.....and he has a strong heart even though yuuki was a vampire still...he didnt gave up in everything...is that what you call weak....you know the thing kaname is different frrom zero because kaname already had the power from the start but zero doesnt have anything...and yet he continues to live for yuuki...even though a lot of things happened...he still couldnt kill yuuki.....it just happened that yuuki is a vampire...and he loves her...he's not weak....

we still dont know about kaname and zero....yuuki has strong feelings for zero also. and she might realize this if zero confess to her..and as far as i can tell yuuki missess her previous life. theyre might be a twist..and it's still going....
i dont you kaname fans cant see that yuuki might have feelings for zero and this thing is a test for them to realize how important their relationship is...its the differences that made them be together and parted ways...zero exempifies a strong will of heart and that is why many thinks zero is the vampire knight. yuuki from the start is will to risk her life for zero just so she he can survive,he always worry about him...and always care for him...and no specific description about zero to her...we stll dont know what she thinks about zero...and about zero bad thing that happened to him since he was a kid...you can never get over on such a terrible thing and that relates in real life...also...and he lost everything..you cant blame him being by that time...and mentally derange...

Zero's will oto fight and feelings are fighting....and that makes him indecisive...put yourself in his situation...it just made it so realistic...

"However how he treat vampire is like saying a some one from Russia killed my parents so every one from ti most be evil."
i dont understand this...this is an anime..how can it be related to your story...it's hard to believe sorry...



not a kaname lover just hate zero.
And about relating stuff human kind always relate and compare life to story's
It how we get story's in the first place.
the thing i said about Russia was a saying to show you how he treats vampire is wrong.
Zero is extremely weak. So what tons of bad stuff happened to him get over it and move on and if more bad stuff happens get over it to and moves on. Who the fuck cares if some thing bad happened any way unlike a lot of people/characters who have bad stuff happened to them. At lest he have had yuuki to care for him and he still a idiot. All you done is change what eh actually have done a bit to try and make him look good.
The truth is he's extremely weak and the reason he have kept form falling to lvl E is not because he strong but because of his hatred. I personally think yuuki deserve way better then zero are kaname however out of teh two kaname is a bit better. It extremely easy to tell that yuuki and zero want be together.
When every i see a character as weak as him that they can't get over something which happened to them it get's on my nerves. Their are humans who have had much more terrible stuff happened to them and have never had any one to care for them unlike zero and have made it out good.

UH and if zero so great explain this to me why he knock yuuki off the roof of the academy right before she killed rido. Plus she does not look lonely sad are any thing. She back to being are true self all this time she was being false being something she was not. now she back to being her true self. uh and he have not stop trying to kill yuuki yet he is standing their and their a part of him who does not want to but he is still standing their trying to get him self to do it.

their 3 types of people who like zero
first those who say his hot so he most be a good guy
second those who see he been through a bad experience
and is like ya he not perfect but eh try's so hard for what he been through which is pity
third those who like cruel guys it turn them on.


no you were wrong about the type tpes.......yuuki and zero been together through hardships and pain...they live together, they go to their academy together...love will surely develop between the two of them..and zero even though he knows thay yuuki likes kaname still he did not make her his own possession.,,,,she's free to do what she wants.. he selflessly love yuuki..... he's patient, kind, not jealous, does not delight in evil.... kaname delights in evil...he shows too much of his dark side....and he's off killing many vampires and sometimes i get lost to the manga.....what are you talkin about he has not stop...when he cant kill...her....we still dont know whether zero will kill yuuki but the thing is...he has great attachment to yuuki...and he loves yuuki...this is a test...

and about cruel guys...kaname was the one acting cruel throughout the serious...he's the one being mischievios....and ambitiouss,,,,,zero only wanted to protect yuuki so not she could not be a vampire....and about the level e thing....why do you say it's about the hatred thing...i swear they never mention it in the manga and in the series....zero was biten by shizuka that's why........and kaname....you like kaname because he' protecting yuuki...what have zero havent done...anyway to yuuki that kanme did to her....and as afar as we can tell zero has more attatchment with her life..and they sood up together through everything.. zero was the one who's being hurt all this time.... and he never tried to possess yuuki... kaname is too egoistic too cunning... he protected yuuki in a way...and he became distant to her...then now because of his jealousy.. he took yuuki....from zero..and used zero as his puppet.... trying to act bossy bossy all the time and he doesnt treat his fellow vampires good... i dont trust him...zero is way much better than kaname...in terms personality and determination,,.

reasons why kaname fans like kaname....
his so hot.... he's a pure blood
his cunning and mysterious personality is so hot
he's a bishounen

he protects yuuki
they had a past together,,,,,,,,,,,,,,>>>>>>>>>>>>> even so yuuki had a past with kaname it still nohing compared with zero...she already had the past and the present with zero..and it's purer and beautiful....

You can never get over it when your family dies...and that relates in real life...you can never forget it...move on..you can move on but not completely...that's a human thought, insticat and feelings..that's only a basic knowledge...
what about kaname...'s treatment to the vampires......he treats them like shit...

zero is really something in this series..he made it through everything even if yuuki turned out to be a vampire...
Worst? what do you mean worst...then describe what worst is? he's been blamed for the death of shizuka, he lost his family, he lost yuuki the woman she loved, being treated as shit, being controlled, fighting his way through alive by resisting the level e that resides in him.....what else... failed love, betrayed, all he had now is only his pride....a person who have nothing pride is only that matters but still he still in love with yuuki..... weak...damn he's not weak,,,who will made it through alive like that....kaname has everything from the start...i hate kaname...he's selfish ambitious cunning crafty sly mysterious and not trustworthy.....he's a master of deception....and all his plans are just going on so smoothly...and it's annoyin...he wants everything for himself...he's so spoiled...he thinks too high of himself....and i dont think can love truly...he's only filling up the emptiness of his selfishness...and ambitions...and he acts as if he's more like a big brother....it will be fine if he's only a big brother...but in the extent he's too much....



If it was to protect some one i would act just like kaname i would kill hundred of people if it what it took
i would manipulate others if it what it took. To protect some one i loved.
Here the thing you look at zero and in your mind his actions mean one thing and in mine they means another.
Like his hatred for vampires to me that the reason he not a lvl E yet after all he have shown plenty of hatred toward vampire. at one time he called them best in human form. He despise his self for being a vampire
Which is annoying for me as well. I mail you and tell you some of the things i been through.

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Rido Kuran (玖蘭 李土, Kuran Ridō?) is a pureblood vampire, Shizuka Hio's former fiancé, Senri Shiki's father, and elder brother to Haruka and Juri Kuran. He is the main antagonist of the story. According to Asato Ichijo, he is the true head of the Kuran family. Ten years ago, seeking to take the Kuran princess, Yuki, Rido killed his brother, Haruka. Kaname attempted to kill Rido, but found he was unable to and a triumphant Rido revealed that as the one who resurrected Kaname, he is Kaname's master[13]. Instead Kaname reduced Rido to the state where he required another pureblood vampire's blood in order to revive fully.

Secretly aided by the Ancient Vampire Council and the Hunters' Association, Rido manipulates events from the shadows by transferring his soul to other bodies and taking control. Rido possesses eyes of two different colors (crimson and blue), and when his soul is transferred to a different body, that body has the same eyes. When Rido takes possession of Shiki's body, he goes to Cross Academy. After a brief confrontation with Kaname and later Rima, Kaname gives his blood to Rido's body in order to restore Rido to his original body.

Ichiru reveals that Rido is the one who added Shizuka's ex-human lover to the list of Level E vampires to be liquidated by the Hunter's Association and attempts to kill Rido as revenge for Shizuka, but instead is mortally wounded. Following his true body's revival, Rido's vampires sense his revival and begin to attack the school students in order to capture prey for Rido to feed on. Rido attempts to compel Aido to feed upon him, but is thwarted by his niece. Seeing Yuki's resemblance to her mother, Rido changes his original desire from eating Yuki (in order to gain power) to taking Yuki as his lover as a replacement for Juri[14], who he loved but never wanted him. Rido's life comes to an end when he is defeated by Yuki and Zero.
huraay witch means zero and yuuki end up together


yay,,,,,!!! zero and yuuki...im dying to see them together...i hope they will end up together...really really hope.....




yuuki almost killed rido and zero knock her off the top of the academy then after rido died zero is trying to kill yuuki. Uh and tons of other jerk's thing he done as well which make me hate zero.

uh and i read this out of the manga it self.


i read the manga and im well updated what's happenin...and were still arent sure how it will end so....stop saying yuuki's gonna end up with kaname....cuz the manga is still going on...i am aware of what's happenin....zero isnt hatable at all...yuuki was the one who first betrayed him...yuuki knows from the start that zero despise vampires..but still she chose to be a vampire and chose kaname...basically all zero did was letting her go..and yuuki knows what she will be dealing with....put that in mind....then zero betrayed her...and as far as the manga goes,,,,, i think kaname is more hatable..... his attitude is not really good....... his possessive and so envious towards zero,,,and that characteristic is not good...,,,, no humility at all...and he's so cunning...master of deception....he utterly have a split personality.........and there's something mischievious about him that makes him not trustworthy...and about pacifism...i dont believe in that shit...after yuuki is a pureblood....I dont know if you understand...what i mean about zero about..... even though yuuki is a vampire...he still carry on doing his thing in spite of everything...in chapter 44...zero cant kill yuuki..because it shows how much he had been attatched to her...and i believe it should be zero and yuuki in the end...theyve been together through weakness,pain and they both help each other through everything... yea kaname is protecting yuuki...in a way he is...but it is a matter of being together,,,,and standing up from everything...kaname became distant with yuuki since the start of the establishment of the cross academy..and zero was there...always and since they were young...they were together always....and there love is much much purer........so it should be yuuki and zero....i thing its a mistake if it's yuuki and kaname even though they have a past compared it to zero....it's much beautiful and purer....i dunno anyways lets see...........



never said she end up with kaname hell she may not end up with any one she mite die. but i despise zero
Uh and kaname does not like fighting all he wants is yuuki to be safe and happy.
hat why he manipulated zero all this time to kill rido.

i will tell you why i hate zero.
think what you want from it.
First yes bad thing happened to him as a kid. However how he treat vampire is like saying a some one from Russia killed my parents so every one from ti most be evil.
this is just a side reason why i hate him.
The reason i hate him is his weak minded. so weak that he can't get over what happened to him always wanting to die yuuki since they was young always did things to help him always trying her best for him.
However he never change he kept the same attitude. Uh and all those flash back was of her helping him doing things for him. Uh and she never betrayed any one. she was born a pure blood so of course she would become one sooner are later again. Plus she never even showed a bit of feeling more then a friend towards zero. she showed over and over again that she loved kaname.
so she don't even love zero that way so i don't even see how they can be together.
Uh and from some one who have been through terrible events and never had some oen to lay on to care about em like zero did and i still made it through and became better over time from it. which zero never did get over it. he still cry's about ti all the time still wanting to die he is so weak. A lot more of his attitude piss me off.



no i do think zero has a strong heart....what are you talkin about weak minded...all the years he's been restraing his self to be a vampire.....he's fighting it in the best he could.....and he has a strong heart even though yuuki was a vampire still...he didnt gave up in everything...is that what you call weak....you know the thing kaname is different frrom zero because kaname already had the power from the start but zero doesnt have anything...and yet he continues to live for yuuki...even though a lot of things happened...he still couldnt kill yuuki.....it just happened that yuuki is a vampire...and he loves her...he's not weak....

we still dont know about kaname and zero....yuuki has strong feelings for zero also. and she might realize this if zero confess to her..and as far as i can tell yuuki missess her previous life. theyre might be a twist..and it's still going....
i dont you kaname fans cant see that yuuki might have feelings for zero and this thing is a test for them to realize how important their relationship is...its the differences that made them be together and parted ways...zero exempifies a strong will of heart and that is why many thinks zero is the vampire knight. yuuki from the start is will to risk her life for zero just so she he can survive,he always worry about him...and always care for him...and no specific description about zero to her...we stll dont know what she thinks about zero...and about zero bad thing that happened to him since he was a kid...you can never get over on such a terrible thing and that relates in real life...also...and he lost everything..you cant blame him being by that time...and mentally derange...

Zero's will oto fight and feelings are fighting....and that makes him indecisive...put yourself in his situation...it just made it so realistic...

"However how he treat vampire is like saying a some one from Russia killed my parents so every one from ti most be evil."
i dont understand this...this is an anime..how can it be related to your story...it's hard to believe sorry...



not a kaname lover just hate zero.
And about relating stuff human kind always relate and compare life to story's
It how we get story's in the first place.
the thing i said about Russia was a saying to show you how he treats vampire is wrong.
Zero is extremely weak. So what tons of bad stuff happened to him get over it and move on and if more bad stuff happens get over it to and moves on. Who the fuck cares if some thing bad happened any way unlike a lot of people/characters who have bad stuff happened to them. At lest he have had yuuki to care for him and he still a idiot. All you done is change what eh actually have done a bit to try and make him look good.
The truth is he's extremely weak and the reason he have kept form falling to lvl E is not because he strong but because of his hatred. I personally think yuuki deserve way better then zero are kaname however out of teh two kaname is a bit better. It extremely easy to tell that yuuki and zero want be together.
When every i see a character as weak as him that they can't get over something which happened to them it get's on my nerves. Their are humans who have had much more terrible stuff happened to them and have never had any one to care for them unlike zero and have made it out good.

UH and if zero so great explain this to me why he knock yuuki off the roof of the academy right before she killed rido. Plus she does not look lonely sad are any thing. She back to being are true self all this time she was being false being something she was not. now she back to being her true self. uh and he have not stop trying to kill yuuki yet he is standing their and their a part of him who does not want to but he is still standing their trying to get him self to do it.

their 3 types of people who like zero
first those who say his hot so he most be a good guy
second those who see he been through a bad experience
and is like ya he not perfect but eh try's so hard for what he been through which is pity
third those who like cruel guys it turn them on.


no you were wrong about the type tpes.......yuuki and zero been together through hardships and pain...they live together, they go to their academy together...love will surely develop between the two of them..and zero even though he knows thay yuuki likes kaname still he did not make her his own possession.,,,,she's free to do what she wants.. he selflessly love yuuki..... he's patient, kind, not jealous, does not delight in evil.... kaname delights in evil...he shows too much of his dark side....and he's off killing many vampires and sometimes i get lost to the manga.....what are you talkin about he has not stop...when he cant kill...her....we still dont know whether zero will kill yuuki but the thing is...he has great attachment to yuuki...and he loves yuuki...this is a test...

and about cruel guys...kaname was the one acting cruel throughout the serious...he's the one being mischievios....and ambitiouss,,,,,zero only wanted to protect yuuki so not she could not be a vampire....and about the level e thing....why do you say it's about the hatred thing...i swear they never mention it in the manga and in the series....zero was biten by shizuka that's why........and kaname....you like kaname because he' protecting yuuki...what have zero havent done...anyway to yuuki that kanme did to her....and as afar as we can tell zero has more attatchment with her life..and they sood up together through everything.. zero was the one who's being hurt all this time.... and he never tried to possess yuuki... kaname is too egoistic too cunning... he protected yuuki in a way...and he became distant to her...then now because of his jealousy.. he took yuuki....from zero..and used zero as his puppet.... trying to act bossy bossy all the time and he doesnt treat his fellow vampires good... i dont trust him...zero is way much better than kaname...in terms personality and determination,,.

reasons why kaname fans like kaname....
his so hot.... he's a pure blood
his cunning and mysterious personality is so hot
he's a bishounen

he protects yuuki
they had a past together,,,,,,,,,,,,,,>>>>>>>>>>>>> even so yuuki had a past with kaname it still nohing compared with zero...she already had the past and the present with zero..and it's purer and beautiful....

You can never get over it when your family dies...and that relates in real life...you can never forget it...move on..you can move on but not completely...that's a human thought, insticat and feelings..that's only a basic knowledge...
what about kaname...'s treatment to the vampires......he treats them like shit...

zero is really something in this series..he made it through everything even if yuuki turned out to be a vampire...
Worst? what do you mean worst...then describe what worst is? he's been blamed for the death of shizuka, he lost his family, he lost yuuki the woman she loved, being treated as shit, being controlled, fighting his way through alive by resisting the level e that resides in him.....what else... failed love, betrayed, all he had now is only his pride....a person who have nothing pride is only that matters but still he still in love with yuuki..... weak...damn he's not weak,,,who will made it through alive like that....kaname has everything from the start...i hate kaname...he's selfish ambitious cunning crafty sly mysterious and not trustworthy.....he's a master of deception....and all his plans are just going on so smoothly...and it's annoyin...he wants everything for himself...he's so spoiled...he thinks too high of himself....and i dont think can love truly...he's only filling up the emptiness of his selfishness...and ambitions...and he acts as if he's more like a big brother....it will be fine if he's only a big brother...but in the extent he's too much....



If it was to protect some one i would act just like kaname i would kill hundred of people if it what it took
i would manipulate others if it what it took. To protect some one i loved.
Here the thing you look at zero and in your mind his actions mean one thing and in mine they means another.
Like his hatred for vampires to me that the reason he not a lvl E yet after all he have shown plenty of hatred toward vampire. at one time he called them best in human form. He despise his self for being a vampire
Which is annoying for me as well. I mail you and tell you some of the things i been through.



no it isnt about the hatred ,,,,,,,, it's the poison of the vampire that bit him....
it....no such statement has shown....that its because of the hatred..they never mention it....

"If it was to protect some one i would act just like kaname i would kill hundred of people if it what it took
i would manipulate others if it what it took. To protect some one i loved"
Is this what you call love?..there are other better way things to do that this one...behind this statement he always have his ambitions and selfish desires to achieve...this is not true love.... i'll i give you a statement of a real love
Love Is Patient, Love is kind, it does not envey, it does not boast, it is not easily angered it keeps np record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with truth. It always protects always trusts always hopes always perserves. Love never fails.
and if you'll relate this to zero and kaname...zero will win in this....this is the most nearly exact definition of a real and pure love.
you can never blame zero to hold gruge against the vampires...vampires did a lot of cruel,unnaceptable thing and number in his life...and now he's being manipulated....talk about pity....and unfortunate....well i dont know if you cant still understand that...
but this our point of view,,,, kaname knows these whole thing will happen and he's aware of what happenin...and he's plannin to use zero since the beginning...he's a user..and i hate people like that...one thing more that i hate about kaname..is how he looks on poeple around him and how he treats zero....zero approached him in a normal way...and he actss so violently...showing hatefulness because of enviousness is not a good quality...he acts as if zero is his own slave...and he acts goodie goodie around yuuki when the truth behind it he's just showing off......theyre something more about his intentions...i feel that it hasnt been revealed in the manga yet............anyways ok ill read your mail

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Rido Kuran (玖蘭 李土, Kuran Ridō?) is a pureblood vampire, Shizuka Hio's former fiancé, Senri Shiki's father, and elder brother to Haruka and Juri Kuran. He is the main antagonist of the story. According to Asato Ichijo, he is the true head of the Kuran family. Ten years ago, seeking to take the Kuran princess, Yuki, Rido killed his brother, Haruka. Kaname attempted to kill Rido, but found he was unable to and a triumphant Rido revealed that as the one who resurrected Kaname, he is Kaname's master[13]. Instead Kaname reduced Rido to the state where he required another pureblood vampire's blood in order to revive fully.

Secretly aided by the Ancient Vampire Council and the Hunters' Association, Rido manipulates events from the shadows by transferring his soul to other bodies and taking control. Rido possesses eyes of two different colors (crimson and blue), and when his soul is transferred to a different body, that body has the same eyes. When Rido takes possession of Shiki's body, he goes to Cross Academy. After a brief confrontation with Kaname and later Rima, Kaname gives his blood to Rido's body in order to restore Rido to his original body.

Ichiru reveals that Rido is the one who added Shizuka's ex-human lover to the list of Level E vampires to be liquidated by the Hunter's Association and attempts to kill Rido as revenge for Shizuka, but instead is mortally wounded. Following his true body's revival, Rido's vampires sense his revival and begin to attack the school students in order to capture prey for Rido to feed on. Rido attempts to compel Aido to feed upon him, but is thwarted by his niece. Seeing Yuki's resemblance to her mother, Rido changes his original desire from eating Yuki (in order to gain power) to taking Yuki as his lover as a replacement for Juri[14], who he loved but never wanted him. Rido's life comes to an end when he is defeated by Yuki and Zero.
huraay witch means zero and yuuki end up together


yay,,,,,!!! zero and yuuki...im dying to see them together...i hope they will end up together...really really hope.....




yuuki almost killed rido and zero knock her off the top of the academy then after rido died zero is trying to kill yuuki. Uh and tons of other jerk's thing he done as well which make me hate zero.

uh and i read this out of the manga it self.


i read the manga and im well updated what's happenin...and were still arent sure how it will end so....stop saying yuuki's gonna end up with kaname....cuz the manga is still going on...i am aware of what's happenin....zero isnt hatable at all...yuuki was the one who first betrayed him...yuuki knows from the start that zero despise vampires..but still she chose to be a vampire and chose kaname...basically all zero did was letting her go..and yuuki knows what she will be dealing with....put that in mind....then zero betrayed her...and as far as the manga goes,,,,, i think kaname is more hatable..... his attitude is not really good....... his possessive and so envious towards zero,,,and that characteristic is not good...,,,, no humility at all...and he's so cunning...master of deception....he utterly have a split personality.........and there's something mischievious about him that makes him not trustworthy...and about pacifism...i dont believe in that shit...after yuuki is a pureblood....I dont know if you understand...what i mean about zero about..... even though yuuki is a vampire...he still carry on doing his thing in spite of everything...in chapter 44...zero cant kill yuuki..because it shows how much he had been attatched to her...and i believe it should be zero and yuuki in the end...theyve been together through weakness,pain and they both help each other through everything... yea kaname is protecting yuuki...in a way he is...but it is a matter of being together,,,,and standing up from everything...kaname became distant with yuuki since the start of the establishment of the cross academy..and zero was there...always and since they were young...they were together always....and there love is much much purer........so it should be yuuki and zero....i thing its a mistake if it's yuuki and kaname even though they have a past compared it to zero....it's much beautiful and purer....i dunno anyways lets see...........



never said she end up with kaname hell she may not end up with any one she mite die. but i despise zero
Uh and kaname does not like fighting all he wants is yuuki to be safe and happy.
hat why he manipulated zero all this time to kill rido.

i will tell you why i hate zero.
think what you want from it.
First yes bad thing happened to him as a kid. However how he treat vampire is like saying a some one from Russia killed my parents so every one from ti most be evil.
this is just a side reason why i hate him.
The reason i hate him is his weak minded. so weak that he can't get over what happened to him always wanting to die yuuki since they was young always did things to help him always trying her best for him.
However he never change he kept the same attitude. Uh and all those flash back was of her helping him doing things for him. Uh and she never betrayed any one. she was born a pure blood so of course she would become one sooner are later again. Plus she never even showed a bit of feeling more then a friend towards zero. she showed over and over again that she loved kaname.
so she don't even love zero that way so i don't even see how they can be together.
Uh and from some one who have been through terrible events and never had some oen to lay on to care about em like zero did and i still made it through and became better over time from it. which zero never did get over it. he still cry's about ti all the time still wanting to die he is so weak. A lot more of his attitude piss me off.



no i do think zero has a strong heart....what are you talkin about weak minded...all the years he's been restraing his self to be a vampire.....he's fighting it in the best he could.....and he has a strong heart even though yuuki was a vampire still...he didnt gave up in everything...is that what you call weak....you know the thing kaname is different frrom zero because kaname already had the power from the start but zero doesnt have anything...and yet he continues to live for yuuki...even though a lot of things happened...he still couldnt kill yuuki.....it just happened that yuuki is a vampire...and he loves her...he's not weak....

we still dont know about kaname and zero....yuuki has strong feelings for zero also. and she might realize this if zero confess to her..and as far as i can tell yuuki missess her previous life. theyre might be a twist..and it's still going....
i dont you kaname fans cant see that yuuki might have feelings for zero and this thing is a test for them to realize how important their relationship is...its the differences that made them be together and parted ways...zero exempifies a strong will of heart and that is why many thinks zero is the vampire knight. yuuki from the start is will to risk her life for zero just so she he can survive,he always worry about him...and always care for him...and no specific description about zero to her...we stll dont know what she thinks about zero...and about zero bad thing that happened to him since he was a kid...you can never get over on such a terrible thing and that relates in real life...also...and he lost everything..you cant blame him being by that time...and mentally derange...

Zero's will oto fight and feelings are fighting....and that makes him indecisive...put yourself in his situation...it just made it so realistic...

"However how he treat vampire is like saying a some one from Russia killed my parents so every one from ti most be evil."
i dont understand this...this is an anime..how can it be related to your story...it's hard to believe sorry...



not a kaname lover just hate zero.
And about relating stuff human kind always relate and compare life to story's
It how we get story's in the first place.
the thing i said about Russia was a saying to show you how he treats vampire is wrong.
Zero is extremely weak. So what tons of bad stuff happened to him get over it and move on and if more bad stuff happens get over it to and moves on. Who the fuck cares if some thing bad happened any way unlike a lot of people/characters who have bad stuff happened to them. At lest he have had yuuki to care for him and he still a idiot. All you done is change what eh actually have done a bit to try and make him look good.
The truth is he's extremely weak and the reason he have kept form falling to lvl E is not because he strong but because of his hatred. I personally think yuuki deserve way better then zero are kaname however out of teh two kaname is a bit better. It extremely easy to tell that yuuki and zero want be together.
When every i see a character as weak as him that they can't get over something which happened to them it get's on my nerves. Their are humans who have had much more terrible stuff happened to them and have never had any one to care for them unlike zero and have made it out good.

UH and if zero so great explain this to me why he knock yuuki off the roof of the academy right before she killed rido. Plus she does not look lonely sad are any thing. She back to being are true self all this time she was being false being something she was not. now she back to being her true self. uh and he have not stop trying to kill yuuki yet he is standing their and their a part of him who does not want to but he is still standing their trying to get him self to do it.

their 3 types of people who like zero
first those who say his hot so he most be a good guy
second those who see he been through a bad experience
and is like ya he not perfect but eh try's so hard for what he been through which is pity
third those who like cruel guys it turn them on.


no you were wrong about the type tpes.......yuuki and zero been together through hardships and pain...they live together, they go to their academy together...love will surely develop between the two of them..and zero even though he knows thay yuuki likes kaname still he did not make her his own possession.,,,,she's free to do what she wants.. he selflessly love yuuki..... he's patient, kind, not jealous, does not delight in evil.... kaname delights in evil...he shows too much of his dark side....and he's off killing many vampires and sometimes i get lost to the manga.....what are you talkin about he has not stop...when he cant kill...her....we still dont know whether zero will kill yuuki but the thing is...he has great attachment to yuuki...and he loves yuuki...this is a test...

and about cruel guys...kaname was the one acting cruel throughout the serious...he's the one being mischievios....and ambitiouss,,,,,zero only wanted to protect yuuki so not she could not be a vampire....and about the level e thing....why do you say it's about the hatred thing...i swear they never mention it in the manga and in the series....zero was biten by shizuka that's why........and kaname....you like kaname because he' protecting yuuki...what have zero havent done...anyway to yuuki that kanme did to her....and as afar as we can tell zero has more attatchment with her life..and they sood up together through everything.. zero was the one who's being hurt all this time.... and he never tried to possess yuuki... kaname is too egoistic too cunning... he protected yuuki in a way...and he became distant to her...then now because of his jealousy.. he took yuuki....from zero..and used zero as his puppet.... trying to act bossy bossy all the time and he doesnt treat his fellow vampires good... i dont trust him...zero is way much better than kaname...in terms personality and determination,,.

reasons why kaname fans like kaname....
his so hot.... he's a pure blood
his cunning and mysterious personality is so hot
he's a bishounen

he protects yuuki
they had a past together,,,,,,,,,,,,,,>>>>>>>>>>>>> even so yuuki had a past with kaname it still nohing compared with zero...she already had the past and the present with zero..and it's purer and beautiful....

You can never get over it when your family dies...and that relates in real life...you can never forget it...move on..you can move on but not completely...that's a human thought, insticat and feelings..that's only a basic knowledge...
what about kaname...'s treatment to the vampires......he treats them like shit...

zero is really something in this series..he made it through everything even if yuuki turned out to be a vampire...
Worst? what do you mean worst...then describe what worst is? he's been blamed for the death of shizuka, he lost his family, he lost yuuki the woman she loved, being treated as shit, being controlled, fighting his way through alive by resisting the level e that resides in him.....what else... failed love, betrayed, all he had now is only his pride....a person who have nothing pride is only that matters but still he still in love with yuuki..... weak...damn he's not weak,,,who will made it through alive like that....kaname has everything from the start...i hate kaname...he's selfish ambitious cunning crafty sly mysterious and not trustworthy.....he's a master of deception....and all his plans are just going on so smoothly...and it's annoyin...he wants everything for himself...he's so spoiled...he thinks too high of himself....and i dont think can love truly...he's only filling up the emptiness of his selfishness...and ambitions...and he acts as if he's more like a big brother....it will be fine if he's only a big brother...but in the extent he's too much....



If it was to protect some one i would act just like kaname i would kill hundred of people if it what it took
i would manipulate others if it what it took. To protect some one i loved.
Here the thing you look at zero and in your mind his actions mean one thing and in mine they means another.
Like his hatred for vampires to me that the reason he not a lvl E yet after all he have shown plenty of hatred toward vampire. at one time he called them best in human form. He despise his self for being a vampire
Which is annoying for me as well. I mail you and tell you some of the things i been through.



no it isnt about the hatred ,,,,,,,, it's the poison of the vampire that bit him....
it....no such statement has shown....that its because of the hatred..they never mention it....

"If it was to protect some one i would act just like kaname i would kill hundred of people if it what it took
i would manipulate others if it what it took. To protect some one i loved"
Is this what you call love?..there are other better way things to do that this one...behind this statement he always have his ambitions and selfish desires to achieve...this is not true love.... i'll i give you a statement of a real love
Love Is Patient, Love is kind, it does not envey, it does not boast, it is not easily angered it keeps np record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with truth. It always protects always trusts always hopes always perserves. Love never fails.
and if you'll relate this to zero and kaname...zero will win in this....this is the most nearly exact definition of a real and pure love.
you can never blame zero to hold gruge against the vampires...vampires did a lot of cruel,unnaceptable thing and number in his life...and now he's being manipulated....talk about pity....and unfortunate....well i dont know if you cant still understand that...
but this our point of view,,,, kaname knows these whole thing will happen and he's aware of what happenin...and he's plannin to use zero since the beginning...he's a user..and i hate people like that...one thing more that i hate about kaname..is how he looks on poeple around him and how he treats zero....zero approached him in a normal way...and he actss so violently...showing hatefulness because of enviousness is not a good quality...he acts as if zero is his own slave...and he acts goodie goodie around yuuki when the truth behind it he's just showing off......theyre something more about his intentions...i feel that it hasnt been revealed in the manga yet............anyways ok ill read your mail



to kill a great evil some times you most become evil your self and that what kaname did.
To protect love yo have to do stuff which you do not want to do.
the council was trying to hurt yuuki as well as rido he can't kill rido so he made some one who could zero
the council he killed to protect yuuki. the view point you got is stupid this is a cruel world and to protect any good in it you have to become evil your self to do it
sometimes.
It would be nice if your view point actually worked in this world.
love is always protect always hope and always trust that is 3 things you are right about.
If you love some one then you will envy it a part of love love it self have dark side. it how the body works.
Your point of view is of a sheltered child view who thinks about love.
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woah. chill. it's evident that u guys all love VK.

but everyone is entitled to their opinion so relax yar?

it's ok being persuasive and all but no need to shoot people.

in any case, since we're all VK lovers, whatever happens at the end, is what Hino Matsuri thinks is best.

the ending will definitely be great regardless of who yuki ends up or does not end up with.

for me, i do honestly hope it'll be kaname, but if it's zero it's ok too!

hino matsuri has developed all the characters so well that one can't help loving all the characters for their different attributes.

so let's just remain peaceful while expressing your views k.

the world is in enough financial chaos as it is.

peace!
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Rido Kuran (玖蘭 李土, Kuran Ridō?) is a pureblood vampire, Shizuka Hio's former fiancé, Senri Shiki's father, and elder brother to Haruka and Juri Kuran. He is the main antagonist of the story. According to Asato Ichijo, he is the true head of the Kuran family. Ten years ago, seeking to take the Kuran princess, Yuki, Rido killed his brother, Haruka. Kaname attempted to kill Rido, but found he was unable to and a triumphant Rido revealed that as the one who resurrected Kaname, he is Kaname's master[13]. Instead Kaname reduced Rido to the state where he required another pureblood vampire's blood in order to revive fully.

Secretly aided by the Ancient Vampire Council and the Hunters' Association, Rido manipulates events from the shadows by transferring his soul to other bodies and taking control. Rido possesses eyes of two different colors (crimson and blue), and when his soul is transferred to a different body, that body has the same eyes. When Rido takes possession of Shiki's body, he goes to Cross Academy. After a brief confrontation with Kaname and later Rima, Kaname gives his blood to Rido's body in order to restore Rido to his original body.

Ichiru reveals that Rido is the one who added Shizuka's ex-human lover to the list of Level E vampires to be liquidated by the Hunter's Association and attempts to kill Rido as revenge for Shizuka, but instead is mortally wounded. Following his true body's revival, Rido's vampires sense his revival and begin to attack the school students in order to capture prey for Rido to feed on. Rido attempts to compel Aido to feed upon him, but is thwarted by his niece. Seeing Yuki's resemblance to her mother, Rido changes his original desire from eating Yuki (in order to gain power) to taking Yuki as his lover as a replacement for Juri[14], who he loved but never wanted him. Rido's life comes to an end when he is defeated by Yuki and Zero.
huraay witch means zero and yuuki end up together


yay,,,,,!!! zero and yuuki...im dying to see them together...i hope they will end up together...really really hope.....




yuuki almost killed rido and zero knock her off the top of the academy then after rido died zero is trying to kill yuuki. Uh and tons of other jerk's thing he done as well which make me hate zero.

uh and i read this out of the manga it self.


i read the manga and im well updated what's happenin...and were still arent sure how it will end so....stop saying yuuki's gonna end up with kaname....cuz the manga is still going on...i am aware of what's happenin....zero isnt hatable at all...yuuki was the one who first betrayed him...yuuki knows from the start that zero despise vampires..but still she chose to be a vampire and chose kaname...basically all zero did was letting her go..and yuuki knows what she will be dealing with....put that in mind....then zero betrayed her...and as far as the manga goes,,,,, i think kaname is more hatable..... his attitude is not really good....... his possessive and so envious towards zero,,,and that characteristic is not good...,,,, no humility at all...and he's so cunning...master of deception....he utterly have a split personality.........and there's something mischievious about him that makes him not trustworthy...and about pacifism...i dont believe in that shit...after yuuki is a pureblood....I dont know if you understand...what i mean about zero about..... even though yuuki is a vampire...he still carry on doing his thing in spite of everything...in chapter 44...zero cant kill yuuki..because it shows how much he had been attatched to her...and i believe it should be zero and yuuki in the end...theyve been together through weakness,pain and they both help each other through everything... yea kaname is protecting yuuki...in a way he is...but it is a matter of being together,,,,and standing up from everything...kaname became distant with yuuki since the start of the establishment of the cross academy..and zero was there...always and since they were young...they were together always....and there love is much much purer........so it should be yuuki and zero....i thing its a mistake if it's yuuki and kaname even though they have a past compared it to zero....it's much beautiful and purer....i dunno anyways lets see...........



never said she end up with kaname hell she may not end up with any one she mite die. but i despise zero
Uh and kaname does not like fighting all he wants is yuuki to be safe and happy.
hat why he manipulated zero all this time to kill rido.

i will tell you why i hate zero.
think what you want from it.
First yes bad thing happened to him as a kid. However how he treat vampire is like saying a some one from Russia killed my parents so every one from ti most be evil.
this is just a side reason why i hate him.
The reason i hate him is his weak minded. so weak that he can't get over what happened to him always wanting to die yuuki since they was young always did things to help him always trying her best for him.
However he never change he kept the same attitude. Uh and all those flash back was of her helping him doing things for him. Uh and she never betrayed any one. she was born a pure blood so of course she would become one sooner are later again. Plus she never even showed a bit of feeling more then a friend towards zero. she showed over and over again that she loved kaname.
so she don't even love zero that way so i don't even see how they can be together.
Uh and from some one who have been through terrible events and never had some oen to lay on to care about em like zero did and i still made it through and became better over time from it. which zero never did get over it. he still cry's about ti all the time still wanting to die he is so weak. A lot more of his attitude piss me off.



no i do think zero has a strong heart....what are you talkin about weak minded...all the years he's been restraing his self to be a vampire.....he's fighting it in the best he could.....and he has a strong heart even though yuuki was a vampire still...he didnt gave up in everything...is that what you call weak....you know the thing kaname is different frrom zero because kaname already had the power from the start but zero doesnt have anything...and yet he continues to live for yuuki...even though a lot of things happened...he still couldnt kill yuuki.....it just happened that yuuki is a vampire...and he loves her...he's not weak....

we still dont know about kaname and zero....yuuki has strong feelings for zero also. and she might realize this if zero confess to her..and as far as i can tell yuuki missess her previous life. theyre might be a twist..and it's still going....
i dont you kaname fans cant see that yuuki might have feelings for zero and this thing is a test for them to realize how important their relationship is...its the differences that made them be together and parted ways...zero exempifies a strong will of heart and that is why many thinks zero is the vampire knight. yuuki from the start is will to risk her life for zero just so she he can survive,he always worry about him...and always care for him...and no specific description about zero to her...we stll dont know what she thinks about zero...and about zero bad thing that happened to him since he was a kid...you can never get over on such a terrible thing and that relates in real life...also...and he lost everything..you cant blame him being by that time...and mentally derange...

Zero's will oto fight and feelings are fighting....and that makes him indecisive...put yourself in his situation...it just made it so realistic...

"However how he treat vampire is like saying a some one from Russia killed my parents so every one from ti most be evil."
i dont understand this...this is an anime..how can it be related to your story...it's hard to believe sorry...



not a kaname lover just hate zero.
And about relating stuff human kind always relate and compare life to story's
It how we get story's in the first place.
the thing i said about Russia was a saying to show you how he treats vampire is wrong.
Zero is extremely weak. So what tons of bad stuff happened to him get over it and move on and if more bad stuff happens get over it to and moves on. Who the fuck cares if some thing bad happened any way unlike a lot of people/characters who have bad stuff happened to them. At lest he have had yuuki to care for him and he still a idiot. All you done is change what eh actually have done a bit to try and make him look good.
The truth is he's extremely weak and the reason he have kept form falling to lvl E is not because he strong but because of his hatred. I personally think yuuki deserve way better then zero are kaname however out of teh two kaname is a bit better. It extremely easy to tell that yuuki and zero want be together.
When every i see a character as weak as him that they can't get over something which happened to them it get's on my nerves. Their are humans who have had much more terrible stuff happened to them and have never had any one to care for them unlike zero and have made it out good.

UH and if zero so great explain this to me why he knock yuuki off the roof of the academy right before she killed rido. Plus she does not look lonely sad are any thing. She back to being are true self all this time she was being false being something she was not. now she back to being her true self. uh and he have not stop trying to kill yuuki yet he is standing their and their a part of him who does not want to but he is still standing their trying to get him self to do it.

their 3 types of people who like zero
first those who say his hot so he most be a good guy
second those who see he been through a bad experience
and is like ya he not perfect but eh try's so hard for what he been through which is pity
third those who like cruel guys it turn them on.


no you were wrong about the type tpes.......yuuki and zero been together through hardships and pain...they live together, they go to their academy together...love will surely develop between the two of them..and zero even though he knows thay yuuki likes kaname still he did not make her his own possession.,,,,she's free to do what she wants.. he selflessly love yuuki..... he's patient, kind, not jealous, does not delight in evil.... kaname delights in evil...he shows too much of his dark side....and he's off killing many vampires and sometimes i get lost to the manga.....what are you talkin about he has not stop...when he cant kill...her....we still dont know whether zero will kill yuuki but the thing is...he has great attachment to yuuki...and he loves yuuki...this is a test...

and about cruel guys...kaname was the one acting cruel throughout the serious...he's the one being mischievios....and ambitiouss,,,,,zero only wanted to protect yuuki so not she could not be a vampire....and about the level e thing....why do you say it's about the hatred thing...i swear they never mention it in the manga and in the series....zero was biten by shizuka that's why........and kaname....you like kaname because he' protecting yuuki...what have zero havent done...anyway to yuuki that kanme did to her....and as afar as we can tell zero has more attatchment with her life..and they sood up together through everything.. zero was the one who's being hurt all this time.... and he never tried to possess yuuki... kaname is too egoistic too cunning... he protected yuuki in a way...and he became distant to her...then now because of his jealousy.. he took yuuki....from zero..and used zero as his puppet.... trying to act bossy bossy all the time and he doesnt treat his fellow vampires good... i dont trust him...zero is way much better than kaname...in terms personality and determination,,.

reasons why kaname fans like kaname....
his so hot.... he's a pure blood
his cunning and mysterious personality is so hot
he's a bishounen

he protects yuuki
they had a past together,,,,,,,,,,,,,,>>>>>>>>>>>>> even so yuuki had a past with kaname it still nohing compared with zero...she already had the past and the present with zero..and it's purer and beautiful....

You can never get over it when your family dies...and that relates in real life...you can never forget it...move on..you can move on but not completely...that's a human thought, insticat and feelings..that's only a basic knowledge...
what about kaname...'s treatment to the vampires......he treats them like shit...

zero is really something in this series..he made it through everything even if yuuki turned out to be a vampire...
Worst? what do you mean worst...then describe what worst is? he's been blamed for the death of shizuka, he lost his family, he lost yuuki the woman she loved, being treated as shit, being controlled, fighting his way through alive by resisting the level e that resides in him.....what else... failed love, betrayed, all he had now is only his pride....a person who have nothing pride is only that matters but still he still in love with yuuki..... weak...damn he's not weak,,,who will made it through alive like that....kaname has everything from the start...i hate kaname...he's selfish ambitious cunning crafty sly mysterious and not trustworthy.....he's a master of deception....and all his plans are just going on so smoothly...and it's annoyin...he wants everything for himself...he's so spoiled...he thinks too high of himself....and i dont think can love truly...he's only filling up the emptiness of his selfishness...and ambitions...and he acts as if he's more like a big brother....it will be fine if he's only a big brother...but in the extent he's too much....



If it was to protect some one i would act just like kaname i would kill hundred of people if it what it took
i would manipulate others if it what it took. To protect some one i loved.
Here the thing you look at zero and in your mind his actions mean one thing and in mine they means another.
Like his hatred for vampires to me that the reason he not a lvl E yet after all he have shown plenty of hatred toward vampire. at one time he called them best in human form. He despise his self for being a vampire
Which is annoying for me as well. I mail you and tell you some of the things i been through.



no it isnt about the hatred ,,,,,,,, it's the poison of the vampire that bit him....
it....no such statement has shown....that its because of the hatred..they never mention it....

"If it was to protect some one i would act just like kaname i would kill hundred of people if it what it took
i would manipulate others if it what it took. To protect some one i loved"
Is this what you call love?..there are other better way things to do that this one...behind this statement he always have his ambitions and selfish desires to achieve...this is not true love.... i'll i give you a statement of a real love
Love Is Patient, Love is kind, it does not envey, it does not boast, it is not easily angered it keeps np record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with truth. It always protects always trusts always hopes always perserves. Love never fails.
and if you'll relate this to zero and kaname...zero will win in this....this is the most nearly exact definition of a real and pure love.
you can never blame zero to hold gruge against the vampires...vampires did a lot of cruel,unnaceptable thing and number in his life...and now he's being manipulated....talk about pity....and unfortunate....well i dont know if you cant still understand that...
but this our point of view,,,, kaname knows these whole thing will happen and he's aware of what happenin...and he's plannin to use zero since the beginning...he's a user..and i hate people like that...one thing more that i hate about kaname..is how he looks on poeple around him and how he treats zero....zero approached him in a normal way...and he actss so violently...showing hatefulness because of enviousness is not a good quality...he acts as if zero is his own slave...and he acts goodie goodie around yuuki when the truth behind it he's just showing off......theyre something more about his intentions...i feel that it hasnt been revealed in the manga yet............anyways ok ill read your mail



to kill a great evil some times you most become evil your self and that what kaname did.
To protect love yo have to do stuff which you do not want to do.
the council was trying to hurt yuuki as well as rido he can't kill rido so he made some one who could zero
the council he killed to protect yuuki. the view point you got is stupid this is a cruel world and to protect any good in it you have to become evil your self to do it
sometimes.
It would be nice if your view point actually worked in this world.
love is always protect always hope and always trust that is 3 things you are right about.
If you love some one then you will envy it a part of love love it self have dark side. it how the body works.
Your point of view is of a sheltered child view who thinks about love.


calm down...and dont get too personal about this....
it's not a stupid view,,,,,, .
it shows how true love is really is....... i dont expect you to understand anyway...your so blinded by kanames doings.....
and you think its right doing those things...if he really belived about the pacifism he's talkin about....then why not talk to zero in a nice way and plan things out..along with his fellowmen.....and crush the evil ones....oh why not make a speech to create w world eher no one fights and unite the humans and the vampires if pacifism is really his aim...he shouldve done it...and i dont believe in him..........this is like gundam seed and gundam wing...if you havent watch that series....then you will not understand what im talkin about.....and i think you should watch it...the seed one is better,,,...

it is not a stupid view it is something a leader must have....in order to govern his land... kaname look down on his people all the time and doesnt accept suggestion,,,he do his thing in his way and only his way....it doesnt matter if someone is hurt....as long as he achieve his goal.....to protect yuuki yea...in some reason it's also protect yuuki but he has more tainted dark reason why.....
and about the love thing.....its also not stupid.....it is a quality and an inspirational quote to know what is really love...if you think it is shit...then i think the definition of your love thing is worse.....than that....much worst than that....

you should watch gundam seed and gundam seed destiny.....in english dub...you should cause if not your missin really cool...please dont also call this stupid....we just have different likings....

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Rido Kuran (玖蘭 李土, Kuran Ridō?) is a pureblood vampire, Shizuka Hio's former fiancé, Senri Shiki's father, and elder brother to Haruka and Juri Kuran. He is the main antagonist of the story. According to Asato Ichijo, he is the true head of the Kuran family. Ten years ago, seeking to take the Kuran princess, Yuki, Rido killed his brother, Haruka. Kaname attempted to kill Rido, but found he was unable to and a triumphant Rido revealed that as the one who resurrected Kaname, he is Kaname's master[13]. Instead Kaname reduced Rido to the state where he required another pureblood vampire's blood in order to revive fully.

Secretly aided by the Ancient Vampire Council and the Hunters' Association, Rido manipulates events from the shadows by transferring his soul to other bodies and taking control. Rido possesses eyes of two different colors (crimson and blue), and when his soul is transferred to a different body, that body has the same eyes. When Rido takes possession of Shiki's body, he goes to Cross Academy. After a brief confrontation with Kaname and later Rima, Kaname gives his blood to Rido's body in order to restore Rido to his original body.

Ichiru reveals that Rido is the one who added Shizuka's ex-human lover to the list of Level E vampires to be liquidated by the Hunter's Association and attempts to kill Rido as revenge for Shizuka, but instead is mortally wounded. Following his true body's revival, Rido's vampires sense his revival and begin to attack the school students in order to capture prey for Rido to feed on. Rido attempts to compel Aido to feed upon him, but is thwarted by his niece. Seeing Yuki's resemblance to her mother, Rido changes his original desire from eating Yuki (in order to gain power) to taking Yuki as his lover as a replacement for Juri[14], who he loved but never wanted him. Rido's life comes to an end when he is defeated by Yuki and Zero.
huraay witch means zero and yuuki end up together


yay,,,,,!!! zero and yuuki...im dying to see them together...i hope they will end up together...really really hope.....




yuuki almost killed rido and zero knock her off the top of the academy then after rido died zero is trying to kill yuuki. Uh and tons of other jerk's thing he done as well which make me hate zero.

uh and i read this out of the manga it self.


i read the manga and im well updated what's happenin...and were still arent sure how it will end so....stop saying yuuki's gonna end up with kaname....cuz the manga is still going on...i am aware of what's happenin....zero isnt hatable at all...yuuki was the one who first betrayed him...yuuki knows from the start that zero despise vampires..but still she chose to be a vampire and chose kaname...basically all zero did was letting her go..and yuuki knows what she will be dealing with....put that in mind....then zero betrayed her...and as far as the manga goes,,,,, i think kaname is more hatable..... his attitude is not really good....... his possessive and so envious towards zero,,,and that characteristic is not good...,,,, no humility at all...and he's so cunning...master of deception....he utterly have a split personality.........and there's something mischievious about him that makes him not trustworthy...and about pacifism...i dont believe in that shit...after yuuki is a pureblood....I dont know if you understand...what i mean about zero about..... even though yuuki is a vampire...he still carry on doing his thing in spite of everything...in chapter 44...zero cant kill yuuki..because it shows how much he had been attatched to her...and i believe it should be zero and yuuki in the end...theyve been together through weakness,pain and they both help each other through everything... yea kaname is protecting yuuki...in a way he is...but it is a matter of being together,,,,and standing up from everything...kaname became distant with yuuki since the start of the establishment of the cross academy..and zero was there...always and since they were young...they were together always....and there love is much much purer........so it should be yuuki and zero....i thing its a mistake if it's yuuki and kaname even though they have a past compared it to zero....it's much beautiful and purer....i dunno anyways lets see...........



never said she end up with kaname hell she may not end up with any one she mite die. but i despise zero
Uh and kaname does not like fighting all he wants is yuuki to be safe and happy.
hat why he manipulated zero all this time to kill rido.

i will tell you why i hate zero.
think what you want from it.
First yes bad thing happened to him as a kid. However how he treat vampire is like saying a some one from Russia killed my parents so every one from ti most be evil.
this is just a side reason why i hate him.
The reason i hate him is his weak minded. so weak that he can't get over what happened to him always wanting to die yuuki since they was young always did things to help him always trying her best for him.
However he never change he kept the same attitude. Uh and all those flash back was of her helping him doing things for him. Uh and she never betrayed any one. she was born a pure blood so of course she would become one sooner are later again. Plus she never even showed a bit of feeling more then a friend towards zero. she showed over and over again that she loved kaname.
so she don't even love zero that way so i don't even see how they can be together.
Uh and from some one who have been through terrible events and never had some oen to lay on to care about em like zero did and i still made it through and became better over time from it. which zero never did get over it. he still cry's about ti all the time still wanting to die he is so weak. A lot more of his attitude piss me off.



no i do think zero has a strong heart....what are you talkin about weak minded...all the years he's been restraing his self to be a vampire.....he's fighting it in the best he could.....and he has a strong heart even though yuuki was a vampire still...he didnt gave up in everything...is that what you call weak....you know the thing kaname is different frrom zero because kaname already had the power from the start but zero doesnt have anything...and yet he continues to live for yuuki...even though a lot of things happened...he still couldnt kill yuuki.....it just happened that yuuki is a vampire...and he loves her...he's not weak....

we still dont know about kaname and zero....yuuki has strong feelings for zero also. and she might realize this if zero confess to her..and as far as i can tell yuuki missess her previous life. theyre might be a twist..and it's still going....
i dont you kaname fans cant see that yuuki might have feelings for zero and this thing is a test for them to realize how important their relationship is...its the differences that made them be together and parted ways...zero exempifies a strong will of heart and that is why many thinks zero is the vampire knight. yuuki from the start is will to risk her life for zero just so she he can survive,he always worry about him...and always care for him...and no specific description about zero to her...we stll dont know what she thinks about zero...and about zero bad thing that happened to him since he was a kid...you can never get over on such a terrible thing and that relates in real life...also...and he lost everything..you cant blame him being by that time...and mentally derange...

Zero's will oto fight and feelings are fighting....and that makes him indecisive...put yourself in his situation...it just made it so realistic...

"However how he treat vampire is like saying a some one from Russia killed my parents so every one from ti most be evil."
i dont understand this...this is an anime..how can it be related to your story...it's hard to believe sorry...



not a kaname lover just hate zero.
And about relating stuff human kind always relate and compare life to story's
It how we get story's in the first place.
the thing i said about Russia was a saying to show you how he treats vampire is wrong.
Zero is extremely weak. So what tons of bad stuff happened to him get over it and move on and if more bad stuff happens get over it to and moves on. Who the fuck cares if some thing bad happened any way unlike a lot of people/characters who have bad stuff happened to them. At lest he have had yuuki to care for him and he still a idiot. All you done is change what eh actually have done a bit to try and make him look good.
The truth is he's extremely weak and the reason he have kept form falling to lvl E is not because he strong but because of his hatred. I personally think yuuki deserve way better then zero are kaname however out of teh two kaname is a bit better. It extremely easy to tell that yuuki and zero want be together.
When every i see a character as weak as him that they can't get over something which happened to them it get's on my nerves. Their are humans who have had much more terrible stuff happened to them and have never had any one to care for them unlike zero and have made it out good.

UH and if zero so great explain this to me why he knock yuuki off the roof of the academy right before she killed rido. Plus she does not look lonely sad are any thing. She back to being are true self all this time she was being false being something she was not. now she back to being her true self. uh and he have not stop trying to kill yuuki yet he is standing their and their a part of him who does not want to but he is still standing their trying to get him self to do it.

their 3 types of people who like zero
first those who say his hot so he most be a good guy
second those who see he been through a bad experience
and is like ya he not perfect but eh try's so hard for what he been through which is pity
third those who like cruel guys it turn them on.


no you were wrong about the type tpes.......yuuki and zero been together through hardships and pain...they live together, they go to their academy together...love will surely develop between the two of them..and zero even though he knows thay yuuki likes kaname still he did not make her his own possession.,,,,she's free to do what she wants.. he selflessly love yuuki..... he's patient, kind, not jealous, does not delight in evil.... kaname delights in evil...he shows too much of his dark side....and he's off killing many vampires and sometimes i get lost to the manga.....what are you talkin about he has not stop...when he cant kill...her....we still dont know whether zero will kill yuuki but the thing is...he has great attachment to yuuki...and he loves yuuki...this is a test...

and about cruel guys...kaname was the one acting cruel throughout the serious...he's the one being mischievios....and ambitiouss,,,,,zero only wanted to protect yuuki so not she could not be a vampire....and about the level e thing....why do you say it's about the hatred thing...i swear they never mention it in the manga and in the series....zero was biten by shizuka that's why........and kaname....you like kaname because he' protecting yuuki...what have zero havent done...anyway to yuuki that kanme did to her....and as afar as we can tell zero has more attatchment with her life..and they sood up together through everything.. zero was the one who's being hurt all this time.... and he never tried to possess yuuki... kaname is too egoistic too cunning... he protected yuuki in a way...and he became distant to her...then now because of his jealousy.. he took yuuki....from zero..and used zero as his puppet.... trying to act bossy bossy all the time and he doesnt treat his fellow vampires good... i dont trust him...zero is way much better than kaname...in terms personality and determination,,.

reasons why kaname fans like kaname....
his so hot.... he's a pure blood
his cunning and mysterious personality is so hot
he's a bishounen

he protects yuuki
they had a past together,,,,,,,,,,,,,,>>>>>>>>>>>>> even so yuuki had a past with kaname it still nohing compared with zero...she already had the past and the present with zero..and it's purer and beautiful....

You can never get over it when your family dies...and that relates in real life...you can never forget it...move on..you can move on but not completely...that's a human thought, insticat and feelings..that's only a basic knowledge...
what about kaname...'s treatment to the vampires......he treats them like shit...

zero is really something in this series..he made it through everything even if yuuki turned out to be a vampire...
Worst? what do you mean worst...then describe what worst is? he's been blamed for the death of shizuka, he lost his family, he lost yuuki the woman she loved, being treated as shit, being controlled, fighting his way through alive by resisting the level e that resides in him.....what else... failed love, betrayed, all he had now is only his pride....a person who have nothing pride is only that matters but still he still in love with yuuki..... weak...damn he's not weak,,,who will made it through alive like that....kaname has everything from the start...i hate kaname...he's selfish ambitious cunning crafty sly mysterious and not trustworthy.....he's a master of deception....and all his plans are just going on so smoothly...and it's annoyin...he wants everything for himself...he's so spoiled...he thinks too high of himself....and i dont think can love truly...he's only filling up the emptiness of his selfishness...and ambitions...and he acts as if he's more like a big brother....it will be fine if he's only a big brother...but in the extent he's too much....



If it was to protect some one i would act just like kaname i would kill hundred of people if it what it took
i would manipulate others if it what it took. To protect some one i loved.
Here the thing you look at zero and in your mind his actions mean one thing and in mine they means another.
Like his hatred for vampires to me that the reason he not a lvl E yet after all he have shown plenty of hatred toward vampire. at one time he called them best in human form. He despise his self for being a vampire
Which is annoying for me as well. I mail you and tell you some of the things i been through.



no it isnt about the hatred ,,,,,,,, it's the poison of the vampire that bit him....
it....no such statement has shown....that its because of the hatred..they never mention it....

"If it was to protect some one i would act just like kaname i would kill hundred of people if it what it took
i would manipulate others if it what it took. To protect some one i loved"
Is this what you call love?..there are other better way things to do that this one...behind this statement he always have his ambitions and selfish desires to achieve...this is not true love.... i'll i give you a statement of a real love
Love Is Patient, Love is kind, it does not envey, it does not boast, it is not easily angered it keeps np record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with truth. It always protects always trusts always hopes always perserves. Love never fails.
and if you'll relate this to zero and kaname...zero will win in this....this is the most nearly exact definition of a real and pure love.
you can never blame zero to hold gruge against the vampires...vampires did a lot of cruel,unnaceptable thing and number in his life...and now he's being manipulated....talk about pity....and unfortunate....well i dont know if you cant still understand that...
but this our point of view,,,, kaname knows these whole thing will happen and he's aware of what happenin...and he's plannin to use zero since the beginning...he's a user..and i hate people like that...one thing more that i hate about kaname..is how he looks on poeple around him and how he treats zero....zero approached him in a normal way...and he actss so violently...showing hatefulness because of enviousness is not a good quality...he acts as if zero is his own slave...and he acts goodie goodie around yuuki when the truth behind it he's just showing off......theyre something more about his intentions...i feel that it hasnt been revealed in the manga yet............anyways ok ill read your mail



to kill a great evil some times you most become evil your self and that what kaname did.
To protect love yo have to do stuff which you do not want to do.
the council was trying to hurt yuuki as well as rido he can't kill rido so he made some one who could zero
the council he killed to protect yuuki. the view point you got is stupid this is a cruel world and to protect any good in it you have to become evil your self to do it
sometimes.
It would be nice if your view point actually worked in this world.
love is always protect always hope and always trust that is 3 things you are right about.
If you love some one then you will envy it a part of love love it self have dark side. it how the body works.
Your point of view is of a sheltered child view who thinks about love.


calm down...and dont get too personal about this....
it's not a stupid view,,,,,, .
it shows how true love is really is....... i dont expect you to understand anyway...your so blinded by kanames doings.....
and you think its right doing those things...if he really belived about the pacifism he's talkin about....then why not talk to zero in a nice way and plan things out..along with his fellowmen.....and crush the evil ones....oh why not make a speech to create w world eher no one fights and unite the humans and the vampires if pacifism is really his aim...he shouldve done it...and i dont believe in him..........this is like gundam seed and gundam wing...if you havent watch that series....then you will not understand what im talkin about.....and i think you should watch it...the seed one is better,,,...

it is not a stupid view it is something a leader must have....in order to govern his land... kaname look down on his people all the time and doesnt accept suggestion,,,he do his thing in his way and only his way....it doesnt matter if someone is hurt....as long as he achieve his goal.....to protect yuuki yea...in some reason it's also protect yuuki but he has more tainted dark reason why.....
and about the love thing.....its also not stupid.....it is a quality and an inspirational quote to know what is really love...if you think it is shit...then i think the definition of your love thing is worse.....than that....much worst than that....

you should watch gundam seed and gundam seed destiny.....in english dub...you should cause if not your missin really cool...please dont also call this stupid....we just have different likings....



hahahaha tell the world about vampire right away that will only cause a massive panic it better to slowly let human relies something. IF he told any one like zero that yuuki a pure blood zero would hate yuuki
Plus like zero will every listen to kaname his a pure blood so eh have always hated him.
So their no way kaname could every talk to zero like that. Plus he can't tell ever one about his plan since he does not know who is his enemy and who is his friend their. if he told every one that yuuki is a pure blood are about his plans. Then the enemy would have found out. Does not look down just in a bad position where he most act the way he does other wise it could in danger yuuki.
One of the reason i hate zero is because how he never listens he hate vampire and nothing will change it.
Yuuki is his whole goal. Sorry but your view on love love does not act that way is only a child view which sadly a lot of people have until something bad happens and they see the truth
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Rido Kuran (玖蘭 李土, Kuran Ridō?) is a pureblood vampire, Shizuka Hio's former fiancé, Senri Shiki's father, and elder brother to Haruka and Juri Kuran. He is the main antagonist of the story. According to Asato Ichijo, he is the true head of the Kuran family. Ten years ago, seeking to take the Kuran princess, Yuki, Rido killed his brother, Haruka. Kaname attempted to kill Rido, but found he was unable to and a triumphant Rido revealed that as the one who resurrected Kaname, he is Kaname's master[13]. Instead Kaname reduced Rido to the state where he required another pureblood vampire's blood in order to revive fully.

Secretly aided by the Ancient Vampire Council and the Hunters' Association, Rido manipulates events from the shadows by transferring his soul to other bodies and taking control. Rido possesses eyes of two different colors (crimson and blue), and when his soul is transferred to a different body, that body has the same eyes. When Rido takes possession of Shiki's body, he goes to Cross Academy. After a brief confrontation with Kaname and later Rima, Kaname gives his blood to Rido's body in order to restore Rido to his original body.

Ichiru reveals that Rido is the one who added Shizuka's ex-human lover to the list of Level E vampires to be liquidated by the Hunter's Association and attempts to kill Rido as revenge for Shizuka, but instead is mortally wounded. Following his true body's revival, Rido's vampires sense his revival and begin to attack the school students in order to capture prey for Rido to feed on. Rido attempts to compel Aido to feed upon him, but is thwarted by his niece. Seeing Yuki's resemblance to her mother, Rido changes his original desire from eating Yuki (in order to gain power) to taking Yuki as his lover as a replacement for Juri[14], who he loved but never wanted him. Rido's life comes to an end when he is defeated by Yuki and Zero.
huraay witch means zero and yuuki end up together


yay,,,,,!!! zero and yuuki...im dying to see them together...i hope they will end up together...really really hope.....




yuuki almost killed rido and zero knock her off the top of the academy then after rido died zero is trying to kill yuuki. Uh and tons of other jerk's thing he done as well which make me hate zero.

uh and i read this out of the manga it self.


i read the manga and im well updated what's happenin...and were still arent sure how it will end so....stop saying yuuki's gonna end up with kaname....cuz the manga is still going on...i am aware of what's happenin....zero isnt hatable at all...yuuki was the one who first betrayed him...yuuki knows from the start that zero despise vampires..but still she chose to be a vampire and chose kaname...basically all zero did was letting her go..and yuuki knows what she will be dealing with....put that in mind....then zero betrayed her...and as far as the manga goes,,,,, i think kaname is more hatable..... his attitude is not really good....... his possessive and so envious towards zero,,,and that characteristic is not good...,,,, no humility at all...and he's so cunning...master of deception....he utterly have a split personality.........and there's something mischievious about him that makes him not trustworthy...and about pacifism...i dont believe in that shit...after yuuki is a pureblood....I dont know if you understand...what i mean about zero about..... even though yuuki is a vampire...he still carry on doing his thing in spite of everything...in chapter 44...zero cant kill yuuki..because it shows how much he had been attatched to her...and i believe it should be zero and yuuki in the end...theyve been together through weakness,pain and they both help each other through everything... yea kaname is protecting yuuki...in a way he is...but it is a matter of being together,,,,and standing up from everything...kaname became distant with yuuki since the start of the establishment of the cross academy..and zero was there...always and since they were young...they were together always....and there love is much much purer........so it should be yuuki and zero....i thing its a mistake if it's yuuki and kaname even though they have a past compared it to zero....it's much beautiful and purer....i dunno anyways lets see...........



never said she end up with kaname hell she may not end up with any one she mite die. but i despise zero
Uh and kaname does not like fighting all he wants is yuuki to be safe and happy.
hat why he manipulated zero all this time to kill rido.

i will tell you why i hate zero.
think what you want from it.
First yes bad thing happened to him as a kid. However how he treat vampire is like saying a some one from Russia killed my parents so every one from ti most be evil.
this is just a side reason why i hate him.
The reason i hate him is his weak minded. so weak that he can't get over what happened to him always wanting to die yuuki since they was young always did things to help him always trying her best for him.
However he never change he kept the same attitude. Uh and all those flash back was of her helping him doing things for him. Uh and she never betrayed any one. she was born a pure blood so of course she would become one sooner are later again. Plus she never even showed a bit of feeling more then a friend towards zero. she showed over and over again that she loved kaname.
so she don't even love zero that way so i don't even see how they can be together.
Uh and from some one who have been through terrible events and never had some oen to lay on to care about em like zero did and i still made it through and became better over time from it. which zero never did get over it. he still cry's about ti all the time still wanting to die he is so weak. A lot more of his attitude piss me off.



no i do think zero has a strong heart....what are you talkin about weak minded...all the years he's been restraing his self to be a vampire.....he's fighting it in the best he could.....and he has a strong heart even though yuuki was a vampire still...he didnt gave up in everything...is that what you call weak....you know the thing kaname is different frrom zero because kaname already had the power from the start but zero doesnt have anything...and yet he continues to live for yuuki...even though a lot of things happened...he still couldnt kill yuuki.....it just happened that yuuki is a vampire...and he loves her...he's not weak....

we still dont know about kaname and zero....yuuki has strong feelings for zero also. and she might realize this if zero confess to her..and as far as i can tell yuuki missess her previous life. theyre might be a twist..and it's still going....
i dont you kaname fans cant see that yuuki might have feelings for zero and this thing is a test for them to realize how important their relationship is...its the differences that made them be together and parted ways...zero exempifies a strong will of heart and that is why many thinks zero is the vampire knight. yuuki from the start is will to risk her life for zero just so she he can survive,he always worry about him...and always care for him...and no specific description about zero to her...we stll dont know what she thinks about zero...and about zero bad thing that happened to him since he was a kid...you can never get over on such a terrible thing and that relates in real life...also...and he lost everything..you cant blame him being by that time...and mentally derange...

Zero's will oto fight and feelings are fighting....and that makes him indecisive...put yourself in his situation...it just made it so realistic...

"However how he treat vampire is like saying a some one from Russia killed my parents so every one from ti most be evil."
i dont understand this...this is an anime..how can it be related to your story...it's hard to believe sorry...



not a kaname lover just hate zero.
And about relating stuff human kind always relate and compare life to story's
It how we get story's in the first place.
the thing i said about Russia was a saying to show you how he treats vampire is wrong.
Zero is extremely weak. So what tons of bad stuff happened to him get over it and move on and if more bad stuff happens get over it to and moves on. Who the fuck cares if some thing bad happened any way unlike a lot of people/characters who have bad stuff happened to them. At lest he have had yuuki to care for him and he still a idiot. All you done is change what eh actually have done a bit to try and make him look good.
The truth is he's extremely weak and the reason he have kept form falling to lvl E is not because he strong but because of his hatred. I personally think yuuki deserve way better then zero are kaname however out of teh two kaname is a bit better. It extremely easy to tell that yuuki and zero want be together.
When every i see a character as weak as him that they can't get over something which happened to them it get's on my nerves. Their are humans who have had much more terrible stuff happened to them and have never had any one to care for them unlike zero and have made it out good.

UH and if zero so great explain this to me why he knock yuuki off the roof of the academy right before she killed rido. Plus she does not look lonely sad are any thing. She back to being are true self all this time she was being false being something she was not. now she back to being her true self. uh and he have not stop trying to kill yuuki yet he is standing their and their a part of him who does not want to but he is still standing their trying to get him self to do it.

their 3 types of people who like zero
first those who say his hot so he most be a good guy
second those who see he been through a bad experience
and is like ya he not perfect but eh try's so hard for what he been through which is pity
third those who like cruel guys it turn them on.


no you were wrong about the type tpes.......yuuki and zero been together through hardships and pain...they live together, they go to their academy together...love will surely develop between the two of them..and zero even though he knows thay yuuki likes kaname still he did not make her his own possession.,,,,she's free to do what she wants.. he selflessly love yuuki..... he's patient, kind, not jealous, does not delight in evil.... kaname delights in evil...he shows too much of his dark side....and he's off killing many vampires and sometimes i get lost to the manga.....what are you talkin about he has not stop...when he cant kill...her....we still dont know whether zero will kill yuuki but the thing is...he has great attachment to yuuki...and he loves yuuki...this is a test...

and about cruel guys...kaname was the one acting cruel throughout the serious...he's the one being mischievios....and ambitiouss,,,,,zero only wanted to protect yuuki so not she could not be a vampire....and about the level e thing....why do you say it's about the hatred thing...i swear they never mention it in the manga and in the series....zero was biten by shizuka that's why........and kaname....you like kaname because he' protecting yuuki...what have zero havent done...anyway to yuuki that kanme did to her....and as afar as we can tell zero has more attatchment with her life..and they sood up together through everything.. zero was the one who's being hurt all this time.... and he never tried to possess yuuki... kaname is too egoistic too cunning... he protected yuuki in a way...and he became distant to her...then now because of his jealousy.. he took yuuki....from zero..and used zero as his puppet.... trying to act bossy bossy all the time and he doesnt treat his fellow vampires good... i dont trust him...zero is way much better than kaname...in terms personality and determination,,.

reasons why kaname fans like kaname....
his so hot.... he's a pure blood
his cunning and mysterious personality is so hot
he's a bishounen

he protects yuuki
they had a past together,,,,,,,,,,,,,,>>>>>>>>>>>>> even so yuuki had a past with kaname it still nohing compared with zero...she already had the past and the present with zero..and it's purer and beautiful....

You can never get over it when your family dies...and that relates in real life...you can never forget it...move on..you can move on but not completely...that's a human thought, insticat and feelings..that's only a basic knowledge...
what about kaname...'s treatment to the vampires......he treats them like shit...

zero is really something in this series..he made it through everything even if yuuki turned out to be a vampire...
Worst? what do you mean worst...then describe what worst is? he's been blamed for the death of shizuka, he lost his family, he lost yuuki the woman she loved, being treated as shit, being controlled, fighting his way through alive by resisting the level e that resides in him.....what else... failed love, betrayed, all he had now is only his pride....a person who have nothing pride is only that matters but still he still in love with yuuki..... weak...damn he's not weak,,,who will made it through alive like that....kaname has everything from the start...i hate kaname...he's selfish ambitious cunning crafty sly mysterious and not trustworthy.....he's a master of deception....and all his plans are just going on so smoothly...and it's annoyin...he wants everything for himself...he's so spoiled...he thinks too high of himself....and i dont think can love truly...he's only filling up the emptiness of his selfishness...and ambitions...and he acts as if he's more like a big brother....it will be fine if he's only a big brother...but in the extent he's too much....



If it was to protect some one i would act just like kaname i would kill hundred of people if it what it took
i would manipulate others if it what it took. To protect some one i loved.
Here the thing you look at zero and in your mind his actions mean one thing and in mine they means another.
Like his hatred for vampires to me that the reason he not a lvl E yet after all he have shown plenty of hatred toward vampire. at one time he called them best in human form. He despise his self for being a vampire
Which is annoying for me as well. I mail you and tell you some of the things i been through.



no it isnt about the hatred ,,,,,,,, it's the poison of the vampire that bit him....
it....no such statement has shown....that its because of the hatred..they never mention it....

"If it was to protect some one i would act just like kaname i would kill hundred of people if it what it took
i would manipulate others if it what it took. To protect some one i loved"
Is this what you call love?..there are other better way things to do that this one...behind this statement he always have his ambitions and selfish desires to achieve...this is not true love.... i'll i give you a statement of a real love
Love Is Patient, Love is kind, it does not envey, it does not boast, it is not easily angered it keeps np record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with truth. It always protects always trusts always hopes always perserves. Love never fails.
and if you'll relate this to zero and kaname...zero will win in this....this is the most nearly exact definition of a real and pure love.
you can never blame zero to hold gruge against the vampires...vampires did a lot of cruel,unnaceptable thing and number in his life...and now he's being manipulated....talk about pity....and unfortunate....well i dont know if you cant still understand that...
but this our point of view,,,, kaname knows these whole thing will happen and he's aware of what happenin...and he's plannin to use zero since the beginning...he's a user..and i hate people like that...one thing more that i hate about kaname..is how he looks on poeple around him and how he treats zero....zero approached him in a normal way...and he actss so violently...showing hatefulness because of enviousness is not a good quality...he acts as if zero is his own slave...and he acts goodie goodie around yuuki when the truth behind it he's just showing off......theyre something more about his intentions...i feel that it hasnt been revealed in the manga yet............anyways ok ill read your mail



to kill a great evil some times you most become evil your self and that what kaname did.
To protect love yo have to do stuff which you do not want to do.
the council was trying to hurt yuuki as well as rido he can't kill rido so he made some one who could zero
the council he killed to protect yuuki. the view point you got is stupid this is a cruel world and to protect any good in it you have to become evil your self to do it
sometimes.
It would be nice if your view point actually worked in this world.
love is always protect always hope and always trust that is 3 things you are right about.
If you love some one then you will envy it a part of love love it self have dark side. it how the body works.
Your point of view is of a sheltered child view who thinks about love.


calm down...and dont get too personal about this....
it's not a stupid view,,,,,, .
it shows how true love is really is....... i dont expect you to understand anyway...your so blinded by kanames doings.....
and you think its right doing those things...if he really belived about the pacifism he's talkin about....then why not talk to zero in a nice way and plan things out..along with his fellowmen.....and crush the evil ones....oh why not make a speech to create w world eher no one fights and unite the humans and the vampires if pacifism is really his aim...he shouldve done it...and i dont believe in him..........this is like gundam seed and gundam wing...if you havent watch that series....then you will not understand what im talkin about.....and i think you should watch it...the seed one is better,,,...

it is not a stupid view it is something a leader must have....in order to govern his land... kaname look down on his people all the time and doesnt accept suggestion,,,he do his thing in his way and only his way....it doesnt matter if someone is hurt....as long as he achieve his goal.....to protect yuuki yea...in some reason it's also protect yuuki but he has more tainted dark reason why.....
and about the love thing.....its also not stupid.....it is a quality and an inspirational quote to know what is really love...if you think it is shit...then i think the definition of your love thing is worse.....than that....much worst than that....

you should watch gundam seed and gundam seed destiny.....in english dub...you should cause if not your missin really cool...please dont also call this stupid....we just have different likings....



hahahaha tell the world about vampire right away that will only cause a massive panic it better to slowly let human relies something. IF he told any one like zero that yuuki a pure blood zero would hate yuuki
Plus like zero will every listen to kaname his a pure blood so eh have always hated him.
So their no way kaname could every talk to zero like that. Plus he can't tell ever one about his plan since he does not know who is his enemy and who is his friend their. if he told every one that yuuki is a pure blood are about his plans. Then the enemy would have found out. Does not look down just in a bad position where he most act the way he does other wise it could in danger yuuki.
One of the reason i hate zero is because how he never listens he hate vampire and nothing will change it.
Yuuki is his whole goal. Sorry but your view on love love does not act that way is only a child view which sadly a lot of people have until something bad happens and they see the truth


well i am only saying that ....theyre are much better way.....this matter is not laughable at all
i dunno....you seem to dont belive in goodness....and about reality....do you know why the great war decided to stop firing gunfires with each other......they just got tired of it,,,,and talk things over....putting down all their weapons...war is pointless.... you need to watch gndam wing and gundam seed to understand what im talkin about and you'll learn a lot......I have the same view as you before....and learning from this past mistakes in history and wars ive learnt a lot........
ell i dont have to explain anythin anymore...this is just going on like theres no end....
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YUKIxZERO ftw!!!!
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hayt.... guys... lets just wait till the manga ends... so many assumptions already...

some are correct... some are not... some are purely based on facts from the net, opinion and from the manga itself...

guys... ur making the non manga readers feel a little dizzy and confused u know...

~im a manga reader
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please dont agrue this was supossede to be about rido sama
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