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If God exists then y is the world so f***ed up?
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Posted 11/23/08 , edited 11/23/08

imanmoh wrote:

It's a test.



A test?

T ell me something why would a God that knows all, including what your going to do 1000s of years before you did it need to test you? Are you sure this god is just not using us to entertain him self? Like how fat drunk do with football? Or how kids do with there Pokemon Games?
Posted 11/23/08

Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


imanmoh wrote:

It's a test.



A test?

T ell me something why would a God that knows all, including what your going to do 1000s of years before you did it need to test you? Are you sure this god is just not using us to entertain him self? Like how fat drunk do with football? Or how kids do with there Pokemon Games?


We are on this earth to worship him.
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Posted 11/23/08

imanmoh wrote:

We are on this earth to worship him.


So God has an enormous ego and is very insecure about Himself?
Posted 11/23/08 , edited 11/23/08

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imanmoh wrote:

We are on this earth to worship him.


So God has an enormous ego and is very insecure about Himself?


Do i look like God?
If you would like to know the answer for such a question you should ask him.
Maybe then you can play the part of Joan of Arc.
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Posted 11/23/08

imanmoh wrote:


leviathan343 wrote:


imanmoh wrote:

We are on this earth to worship him.


So God has an enormous ego and is very insecure about Himself?


Do i look like God?
If you would like to know the answer for such a question you should ask him.
Maybe then you can play the part of Joan of Arc.


I don't see the point of an all-powerful being creating others to tell him how grateful they are for His existence. They serve no practical purpose (He is all-powerful, he doesn't need helpers) and they are cursed with so many unfortunate things.

Seems like the ultimate form of ego-tripping, that's all.
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Posted 11/23/08

imanmoh wrote:


leviathan343 wrote:


imanmoh wrote:

We are on this earth to worship him.


So God has an enormous ego and is very insecure about Himself?


Do i look like God?
If you would like to know the answer for such a question you should ask him.
Maybe then you can play the part of Joan of Arc.



'I be happy if your God would stop coping from other religions. There nothing new in your religion, its all been stolen from the pagan religions. ' At that the Story of Jesus is nothing more than a copy of many pagan gods, like dated more than 3000 years before his birth.

On top of that there is no evidence for your god at all, and fallowing something you have no proof for is border line mentally ill.

Such a god is real than why not turn the Japanese people into stone! Japan is 60% to 70% Atheist, and only 3% Christian. Yet there less Crime, less teen pregnancies, and Higher educated. Who thunk that not believing n a god would make life better. For shame how can your god let them spit at him like that, why does not your god rage agents them sinners.
Or could it be your God has no power, we know if he had power he would do so just like he did in the bible. (over stupid things.)
Posted 11/23/08

Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


imanmoh wrote:


leviathan343 wrote:


imanmoh wrote:

We are on this earth to worship him.


So God has an enormous ego and is very insecure about Himself?


Do i look like God?
If you would like to know the answer for such a question you should ask him.
Maybe then you can play the part of Joan of Arc.



'I be happy if your God would stop coping from other religions. There nothing new in your religion, its all been stolen from the pagan religions. ' At that the Story of Jesus is nothing more than a copy of many pagan gods, like dated more than 3000 years before his birth.

On top of that there is no evidence for your god at all, and fallowing something you have no proof for is border line mentally ill.

Such a god is real than why not turn the Japanese people into stone! Japan is 60% to 70% Atheist, and only 3% Christian. Yet there less Crime, less teen pregnancies, and Higher educated. Who thunk that not believing n a god would make life better. For shame how can your god let them spit at him like that, why does not your god rage agents them sinners.
Or could it be your God has no power, we know if he had power he would do so just like he did in the bible. (over stupid things.)

There's nothing we can do except to just wait and see.

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Posted 11/23/08
its something called A Plan.
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Posted 11/23/08
God doesn't care or not care. God is completely neutral. We're on our own.
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Posted 11/23/08

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makix wrote:


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Assuming that God does exist...

God isn't doing these stuff. You might notice that its the people who make the wars. Its the people who make themselves hungry because they aren't working.. ok, that might not be true to everyone. but its a really long logic. it boils down to the people.. its the people who causes global warming.. this "was" paradise.. until we ruined it..


People in the world aren't hungry because they don't necessarily "work". Sure, there are those who are hungry because they refuse to work and use all form of currency on drugs, but that's a very small percentage of the urban population. Think 3rd world countries where the money is being funneled to people who don't need it and the poor stay poor. They stay poor and hungry regardless of how hard they work. You're correct on the aspect of "we ruined it", but generally not many people know who exactly ruined it. And generally, when you do learn about who causes all the suffering in the world, you guys reject the idea as impossible because you're so sheltered in your spoiled propaganda defined ideologies.


I find it ironic how when good things happen, it's all God. When bad things happen, it's because of either the devil's influence or because we humans suck.

I'm not going to go into itty bitty details because these arguments never go anywhere; but all I'm going to say is that most religion, not only that of the Abraham God, generally makes no sense.


You're probably arguing with a Fundametalist. Don't bother debating with them. Read my post above this one, it might clarify some things for you.


Yeah, I already know it's most likely futile to "debate" against a Fundamentalist, but hey, might as well give it a try.

Posted 11/23/08
Cause the world is the only fucking god can get.
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Posted 11/23/08

Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


MisterGarcia wrote:

Don't blame God for the mess we've caused on this earth.


Hell half the messes on earth is caused in the name of this imaginary character known as god.
'Murder, Slavery, rape, and even holy wars. '
Yet they have no evidence at all for there god, but it does not stop them from brainwashing people into there religion, and doing whatever it takes to force there fake gods onto the rest of the world.

'the Bible makes for a good story book. Hell Not really I read the bible front to back about 30 times it sucked as a story book as well.' Any one with half a brain could tell that most of the bible was copied from the pagan religions, even Jesus was just a copied character, Just look up Mytho that is the god that was born of a virgin, did miracles for his people, and Died for their sins.' Jesus is just a weaker rip off of that Pagan god character.


Uh, no.
Crime exists because of man's lapse of morality and judgment.

And what books have you been reading to justify your statements about the Bible?
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Posted 11/23/08 , edited 11/24/08

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MEMPHADON wrote:

the gods are powerful, but not omnipotent. Odin gave us life, but that does not mean he can control us. humanity sets its own course, and faces the consequences of its actions.

Geirröth chose to torture Grimnir, Agnar chose to spare him. who ended up impaled on their own sword?




Now that is a lot more logical than the Christian beliefs for real! (just makes more sense.)

I am an atheist and looking into religion from a non-religious point of view the Norse religion and there concept of God or Gods just make more sense and is more likely than the Christians god.



And what's more logical about Norse religion compared to Christian religion?

He just said it. It's basically a fundamental concept behind creation, with God creating us but not fully controlling us. Humanity sets its own course and consequences and whatever. That's Christian, too. I don't see what you mean about Norse being more logical than Christian.

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Posted 11/23/08
because their are faggots in this world that needs to be killed
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God has His purpose. The world today isn't God's fault. Its because of greed, lust the hunger for power and money. Such reasons are the cause of the world's chaotic state. God stated in His commandments the Do's and Don't's, yet we humans refuse to obey them resulting in destruction and mayhem.

For every blessing we praise ourselves ; for every disaster we blame God.
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