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Zero-fans what do you think about episode 7??
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Posted 12/6/08

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She's a vampire.
She was born a vampire.
>.> Zero needs to know the truth.
I feel no sympathy for him.






I aggree with some of that. but, i do feel sympathy for him only bcuz it kind of sucks losing someone important to you after youve lost evryone else.

After saying that, I do have to say that I do prefer Kaname and Yuki together bcuz they were born to be together. Kaname has been so lonely, just watrchin and protecting this person he cares so much about. Yuki obviously loves him, but then again she also has feelings for Zero which she might not be aware of. i think Yuki is the person most you guys shoul hate bcuz she's the one causing both these guys this heartache because of her overly confused heart

BacK on topic- Did I feel bad for Zero? No, not really becuase this is an anime with plot its not called THE ZERO SHOW, it's called Vampire Knight, therefore not every minute of the anime is going to be spent on zero and how he feels.

Do I hate Kaname?Of course not. He has his reasons for what he does- to protect Yuki and yes, most of the people who like Zero like him bcuz he's "hot and he's the underdog". Kaname isn't the antagonist of this story. He's just a character that most viewers dont give a chance. Kaname killed Shizuka so he can gain power to protect yuki form Rido. He gave Zero blood because he knows only zero can kill rido. He lied to yuki about Shizuka because if he told her the truth, he would have to tell her about his past. What im trying to say is Kaname has his reasons for his actions and they're all for yuki. so yes, i do prefer yuki and kaname together.

Do I hate Zero? No- he also loves Yuki, even if he feels he's not worthy. Sometime he becomes overcome with hatred, but who doesn't. Hiss parent were killed by vampires, his brother hates him and the only person he loves(yuki), he can't really be with her. So yes Zero also has he reasons for his actions and just like kaname its all for yuki.

So Technically Zero and Kaname are very alike. Therefore i do not hate any of them. I do prefer Kaname more. That's my OPINION.





I couldn't agree more. I tip my hat off to you.


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yes, this episode was not a good one for zero fans...yuuki becoming a vampire made things much more difficult between her and zero (as if it wasn't already strained!) but we have to keep heart...in most animes, the couple that ends up together has A LOT OF PROBLEMS to deal with and needs to overcome MILLIONS of obstacles before they are finally happy with each other...just think of this as another one of those hurdles for zero and yuuki...i find it hard to believe that after all those issues that yuuki and zero went through together, they just part ways as friends...sounds really bogus...anyway, i was pretty mad that zero pushed yuuki away when she was basically saying how much she needed him, but we know that no matter what zero said, yuuki knows that DOES need zero a whole lot!
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Just wait until episode 10 next week...
Posted 12/6/08

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Okay I'm not a Zero fan but why must you hate Kaname for awakening Yuki, just because there isn't much sreentime for Zero? Excuse me, it's not Kaname's fault to want to appear that many times in one episode, it's the storyline, and one of the most important of all in the story. And is it Kaname's fault to awaken Yuki? No! I think it's better to see Yuki back to her vampire self, so she don't have to cry and cry. And it's not a total anti-Zero episode, and neither is it a Kaname win win episode, you can say it's rather a new start for Yuki. And please don't give me the crying for Zero.. I think I should pity and cry for Kaname more beacause of all the bashings and critizings on him which he doesn't deserve. Kaname isn't bad, please read the manga and understand more, just hating Kaname because you can't get a satisfying result is really unforgivable, that only shows how shallow - minded you're. Plus you can see that the anime gave so many Zero X Yuki moments that it really seemed like Zero X Yuki, the anime also sort of made Kaname looked as if he is a bad guy, but actually he's not. Get your facts straight, don't go hating Kaname unnecessary. I respect your desicion on the pairing you like, so please can you Zero fans respect the other pairing in this anime as well? The love triangle is important in this kind of story to make it interesting, so please stop the hating Kaname act.

I understand their minds because I'm a Zero fan, and now I'll explain it to you.
They aren't hating Kaname because there would be less screen-time for Zero. They hate Kaname because Kaname awakened Yuuki, and now Yuuki will have different characteristics (or so I think), and they also hate Kaname because of some other personal issues with Kaname.
Also, you can't say that you're respecting us if you are clearly NOT. You're calling us shallow-minded, and saying "get your facts straight", when those "facts" are clearly different to everyone, because everyone has different opinions.
Posted 12/6/08

angelcake22 wrote:


TonyTheShredder wrote:


angelcake22 wrote:


123mandy wrote:

She's a vampire.
She was born a vampire.
>.> Zero needs to know the truth.
I feel no sympathy for him.






I aggree with some of that. but, i do feel sympathy for him only bcuz it kind of sucks losing someone important to you after youve lost evryone else.

After saying that, I do have to say that I do prefer Kaname and Yuki together bcuz they were born to be together. Kaname has been so lonely, just watrchin and protecting this person he cares so much about. Yuki obviously loves him, but then again she also has feelings for Zero which she might not be aware of. i think Yuki is the person most you guys shoul hate bcuz she's the one causing both these guys this heartache because of her overly confused heart

BacK on topic- Did I feel bad for Zero? No, not really becuase this is an anime with plot its not called THE ZERO SHOW, it's called Vampire Knight, therefore not every minute of the anime is going to be spent on zero and how he feels.

Do I hate Kaname?Of course not. He has his reasons for what he does- to protect Yuki and yes, most of the people who like Zero like him bcuz he's "hot and he's the underdog". Kaname isn't the antagonist of this story. He's just a character that most viewers dont give a chance. Kaname killed Shizuka so he can gain power to protect yuki form Rido. He gave Zero blood because he knows only zero can kill rido. He lied to yuki about Shizuka because if he told her the truth, he would have to tell her about his past. What im trying to say is Kaname has his reasons for his actions and they're all for yuki. so yes, i do prefer yuki and kaname together.

Do I hate Zero? No- he also loves Yuki, even if he feels he's not worthy. Sometime he becomes overcome with hatred, but who doesn't. Hiss parent were killed by vampires, his brother hates him and the only person he loves(yuki), he can't really be with her. So yes Zero also has he reasons for his actions and just like kaname its all for yuki.

So Technically Zero and Kaname are very alike. Therefore i do not hate any of them. I do prefer Kaname more. That's my OPINION.





I couldn't agree more. I tip my hat off to you.


thank you very much


I understand your opinion, but I'm one of the people who doesn't like Zero just because he's "hot and the underdog". I like him because he has a shady character, and he's just so different to everyone else. He's less open, while everyone else always just says/thinks what they want to.
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ppl, i really DON"T GET Y U PPL R SO MEAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i get the fact that u don't like kaname getting in the way of zero and yuuki's relationship but must u hate him to that depth? Will u ppl plz consider the feelings of the author who tried to make this manga/anime interesting? Can't u ppl plz think of the reactiong the author would have if she knew that ppl HATED a character that she made up and don't you ppl think that vampire knight wouldn't b interesting if their was no kaname, no love triangle!?!?! Well, i'm actually a kanameXyuuki suporter but i don't HATE zero. i just found him a little scary (i'm sorry). So do u pplz mind being just a LITTLE considerate?!?!?

Okay, again, I have to say they don't hate Kaname for that reason... Well, I don't.
In another thread, even though I'm a Zero and Zeki fan, I said that it would be boring without Kaname. I said something like this:
"Even though I AM a Zero and Zeki fan, I admit that without Kaname it would just be boring. Zero would fall to a Level E, and before that, Zero and Yuuki would just run around guarding the Night Class, and the Chairman would call them, then *GASP*, they find out the Chairman is gay, and blah-blah-blah, he ends up with Aido and Kain!"
Okay, I know that was random, but that's seriously what I thought of the anime without Kaname... lol
There's no story without Kaname, Zero, or Yuuki!
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Its super bad.. i am telling you.
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seriously its only an anime, its not real. all artwork and story line are made up. get a life. All i see i discussion is zero this zero that. Zero fans bash Kaname and hate his guts, but I I dont see Kaname fans do this to Zero?! I personally find zero fans very childish and a majority of you guys are probably little kids still growing. remind me of korean antis.
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its soo cute <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 it!!!!^^

kaname x yuki 4eva!!! xD
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I understand their minds because I'm a Zero fan, and now I'll explain it to you.
They aren't hating Kaname because there would be less screen-time for Zero. They hate Kaname because Kaname awakened Yuuki, and now Yuuki will have different characteristics (or so I think), and they also hate Kaname because of some other personal issues with Kaname.

I know you're trying to defend your own favourite character, who doesn't? And let me ask you, by saying these, do you think these "reasons" are acceptable honestly? They hate Kaname just because he awaken Yuki, ask yourself is this reasonable? And after he awakened Yuki plus the less screen time for Zero, this add to their hatred ( I don't know why... ). It's sort of link up. And also the so called personal reasons/issues etc. Hate Kaname because he is ugly? Hate Kaname because I want ZeroXYuki, hate Kaname because I just hate him etc.. Do you really think these are justifiable?
For myself, I really appreciate Yuki to be awaken as a vampire, she is stronger now then before. And for their "reasons", I really am speechless after reading them, they can find any reasons under the sun to say " I hate Kaname ". Does this please you if everything is the other way round, and Zero is targeted? I'm sure it doesn't feel nice right?


Also, you can't say that you're respecting us if you are clearly NOT. You're calling us shallow-minded, and saying "get your facts straight", when those "facts" are clearly different to everyone, because everyone has different opinions.


Am I not? Perhaps I sound that way... However, do you think these replies show that they are not shallow minded?
" I really hated this episode, I hate Kaname. I didn't like it when Zero said Yuki needed Kaname, not Zero! "

" It sucks, I want to kick Yuki and Kaname faces! "

And More... Because they can't get a satisfying result for themselves, they will go hate hate hate. Is this acceptable, ask yourself?
And when I say get your facts straight, I mean don't go hate Kaname unnecessary, I know everyone has different opinions ( who doesn't? ) and did I ever force people to " WTH Why hate Kaname? Hate Zero la!! " Did I? I just hope that these fans can understand Kaname more..And not give those very ridiculous reasons which I can laugh at to hate Kaname.
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Chibitastic wrote:
I understand their minds because I'm a Zero fan, and now I'll explain it to you.
They aren't hating Kaname because there would be less screen-time for Zero. They hate Kaname because Kaname awakened Yuuki, and now Yuuki will have different characteristics (or so I think), and they also hate Kaname because of some other personal issues with Kaname.

I know you're trying to defend your own favourite character, who doesn't? And let me ask you, by saying these, do you think these "reasons" are acceptable honestly? They hate Kaname just because he awaken Yuki, ask yourself is this reasonable? And after he awakened Yuki plus the less screen time for Zero, this add to their hatred ( I don't know why... ). It's sort of link up. And also the so called personal reasons/issues etc. Hate Kaname because he is ugly? Hate Kaname because I want ZeroXYuki, hate Kaname because I just hate him etc.. Do you really think these are justifiable?
For myself, I really appreciate Yuki to be awaken as a vampire, she is stronger now then before. And for their "reasons", I really am speechless after reading them, they can find any reasons under the sun to say " I hate Kaname ". Does this please you if everything is the other way round, and Zero is targeted? I'm sure it doesn't feel nice right?


Also, you can't say that you're respecting us if you are clearly NOT. You're calling us shallow-minded, and saying "get your facts straight", when those "facts" are clearly different to everyone, because everyone has different opinions.


Am I not? Perhaps I sound that way... However, do you think these replies show that they are not shallow minded?
" I really hated this episode, I hate Kaname. I didn't like it when Zero said Yuki needed Kaname, not Zero! "

" It sucks, I want to kick Yuki and Kaname faces! "

And More... Because they can't get a satisfying result for themselves, they will go hate hate hate. Is this acceptable, ask yourself?
And when I say get your facts straight, I mean don't go hate Kaname unnecessary, I know everyone has different opinions ( who doesn't? ) and did I ever force people to " WTH Why hate Kaname? Hate Zero la!! " Did I? I just hope that these fans can understand Kaname more..And not give those very ridiculous reasons which I can laugh at to hate Kaname.


No, by "personal issues", I meant that a lot of fans hate Kaname for different reasons.
Of course I'm a fan of VK&VKG, but I'm not going to go "Ah, Zero's so hot! He should end up with Yuuki! Kaname should die! Die, Kaname!", because without Kaname, the story would be, like... nothing.
Also, not all of the replies are like that. You're just targeting all the replies that ARE like that. This is why everyone thinks that Zero fans are childish––because Kaname fans have indirect methods to make all of them seem childish, even though they are not.
And as for me, to tell you the truth, I've already given my reason to hate Kaname––because he awakened Yuuki, and now she'll have different characteristics. That was just my opinion, of course. It's not like anyone else will acknowledge this; they'll just ignore this and still think that Zero fans are childish.
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Chibitastic wrote:
No, by "personal issues", I meant that a lot of fans hate Kaname for different reasons.
Of course I'm a fan of VK&VKG, but I'm not going to go "Ah, Zero's so hot! He should end up with Yuuki! Kaname should die! Die, Kaname!", because without Kaname, the story would be, like... nothing.
Also, not all of the replies are like that. You're just targeting all the replies that ARE like that. This is why everyone thinks that Zero fans are childish––because Kaname fans have indirect methods to make all of them seem childish, even though they are not.
And as for me, to tell you the truth, I've already given my reason to hate Kaname––because he awakened Yuuki, and now she'll have different characteristics. That was just my opinion, of course. It's not like anyone else will acknowledge this; they'll just ignore this and still think that Zero fans are childish.


Replies that ARE like that ARE the majority, perhaps you're in the minority. And We don't have an indirect methods to make these people seem childish. Firstly, the truth is there as that what's they want to voice out. Secondly, not all are childish, there are some who are understanding ( belonging to the minority ). And to take the step out and replied in that way, already tells that you're childish. And honestly to tell you, whenever I go to any VS forum between Zero and Kaname, I will always find replies critisizing Kaname, whereas the Kaname fans will just answer " Kaname " , " Kaname all the way! " ..
Anyway if you want to hate Kaname, it's your own choice, like you said, it's not like anyone will acknowledge your opinion. I personally don't because I don't really agree with you, but since everyone has different opinions, then just so be it.
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Is Zero gonna be the hunter or hunt-eed? Please be the hunter Zero! pwease!
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im not zero fan.. and im kaname fan... dont think dat vampire knight is just all about zero... kaname is still der and he is a main character too... zero has his episodes.. and kaname will have too
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