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Censoring books is ruining the world.
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Posted 12/8/07

DoNotDisturb wrote:


ali1238 wrote:


wolzen wrote:

lol i know whats the big deal with calling a black person a nigger,nigga,niggar,nig,niglet those things call each other that all the time anyways


you do release how racist your statment is dont you
also when a black person called an another black person nigger it is to show irony of the statment and show charector


Who the fuck give a shit about racism.... I seriously don't see the whole big deal about it. ~Mind the cusses~ Stick back to the topic please.
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I don't really see the whole point of Cencorship, Everyone soon will learn.



i love you in a non pedophile like way since you have the same understanding about racism as me
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dude are you living in a christian cummunity???

its alway natural for priest to opposed those books/other stuff that may

attract their practitioners to go otherwise so

they go the means of banning anything that may appear heresy to them!

they are too shallow they don't have any confidence in their people or in

what they may preach....
Posted 12/8/07

HokiePokie wrote:

Niger come from negro and niggard. Negro is black. Niggard means stupid. Mix the two, and you got nigger.


I thought "nigger" came from slang use of the word "negro". But that's just me.
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Censorship causes blindness
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Well hmm seems like niggard means selfish or something actually. But ey.... I'm not sure.
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is racism allowed here?

holy bloody Jsues trich!
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Posted 12/8/07

wolzen wrote:


DoNotDisturb wrote:


ali1238 wrote:


wolzen wrote:

lol i know whats the big deal with calling a black person a nigger,nigga,niggar,nig,niglet those things call each other that all the time anyways


you do release how racist your statment is dont you
also when a black person called an another black person nigger it is to show irony of the statment and show charector


Who the fuck give a shit about racism.... I seriously don't see the whole big deal about it. ~Mind the cusses~ Stick back to the topic please.
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I don't really see the whole point of Cencorship, Everyone soon will learn.



i love you in a non pedophile like way since you have the same understanding about racism as me


wow i cant believe people look down apon other just because of there race, remindes me of hitler and how the jews treated and killed

if i called some one a honkey or a chink you would talking about racism

(p.s i would never say anything racist about anyone unl;ess it is a light hearted joke which would only be with close and good friends)
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Well, what do you know? Cencorship is the act of blocking material so that it can't be seen. To censor is to hide the ugly side of things. If you shield children from books like Tom Sawyer or Huckleberry Finn because of the use of the "n word", children won't know how to deal with it when confronted with it. Censorship is also technically illegal in the US so the boards of education censoring books are commiting a crime against the first amemdment.

Today, I'm here to say that it is technically illegal to censor, or make it so schools do not read x y or z due to some mild content, books for children. Why do we censor? What do we hope to accomplish by removing great books from booklists? Harry Potter was removed. That is rediculous. By not exposing kids to some gruffer material, we create the illusion that the world is happy and pretty when it's really not. That does not prepare kids for life.

Also, some of the stuff they're putting on banned-book lists is completely mild or irrelevant. What is so offensive? Another reason why censoring is up now-a-days is probably because society is too damn sensitive. If the rest of society were't so damn sensitive to things: No child would be spoiled (By way of a parent being justifiably tough on their kid), kids would be able to handle racism, sexism, ageism better. More and more am I seeing kids spoiled as hell. This has got to stop as well. My point is, censorship blinds people.

Censorship can only cause problems. Do us all a favor, grow some balls, take it like a man and explain to your kids the gruffer sides of life. That's what parents are for: They aren't here for babying every second of the way, they aren't here for covering our eyes when something bad happens. They are here to prepare us for life and explaining things. Parents should be up in arms against censoring, but contemporary society has ruined any chance of that.

My solution is simple: Instead of blocking out the gruffer themes and books, have teachers talk about and explain such things to children, who cannot comprehend. Once they understand, society moves forward again. And then we're all mildly happy until another problem comes about. What does everyone else think?


Agreed, kids will have to learn about all the other stuff in the world someday so why not earlier?
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skygod333 wrote:

Well, what do you know? Cencorship is the act of blocking material so that it can't be seen. To censor is to hide the ugly side of things. If you shield children from books like Tom Sawyer or Huckleberry Finn because of the use of the "n word", children won't know how to deal with it when confronted with it. Censorship is also technically illegal in the US so the boards of education censoring books are commiting a crime against the first amemdment.

Today, I'm here to say that it is technically illegal to censor, or make it so schools do not read x y or z due to some mild content, books for children. Why do we censor? What do we hope to accomplish by removing great books from booklists? Harry Potter was removed. That is rediculous. By not exposing kids to some gruffer material, we create the illusion that the world is happy and pretty when it's really not. That does not prepare kids for life.

Also, some of the stuff they're putting on banned-book lists is completely mild or irrelevant. What is so offensive? Another reason why censoring is up now-a-days is probably because society is too damn sensitive. If the rest of society were't so damn sensitive to things: No child would be spoiled (By way of a parent being justifiably tough on their kid), kids would be able to handle racism, sexism, ageism better. More and more am I seeing kids spoiled as hell. This has got to stop as well. My point is, censorship blinds people.

Censorship can only cause problems. Do us all a favor, grow some balls, take it like a man and explain to your kids the gruffer sides of life. That's what parents are for: They aren't here for babying every second of the way, they aren't here for covering our eyes when something bad happens. They are here to prepare us for life and explaining things. Parents should be up in arms against censoring, but contemporary society has ruined any chance of that.

My solution is simple: Instead of blocking out the gruffer themes and books, have teachers talk about and explain such things to children, who cannot comprehend. Once they understand, society moves forward again. And then we're all mildly happy until another problem comes about. What does everyone else think?


I completely agree with you. I don't see the point of censorship. If they learn about these "bad things" earlier it would be better for them because if they encounter these things when they're older they probably won't know what to do and that could cause a lot of problems for them.
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My favorite book is "The Giver" by Lois Lowry (I think). The world is supposedly a "Utopia" but, in actualliy, Color, emotions are gone. People "chose" their wives and children are not theirs. When twins are born, the lighter one is killed, and the person who kills the baby has no clue what he is doing. There is no music or fun or entertainment. But, along with this the memories of war and other misfortunes are gone, along with the memories of friends and love and such. Snow, summer and such are gone. Your job is chosen by the "elders". Everyone rides bikes. And you do not get a bike untill you are 8 I belive.

If we keep sheltering and censoring our books/TV's and such this will probobly be what the future world will become.

And "The Giver" was a banned/challenged book too.
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Well I don't know about you, but I don't want my five year old sister reading about "niggers", violence, or any dark-themed material just yet. They don't fully understand such things as of yet and to teach them of such things in so early of an age would hasten their innocence and youthful experiences to a halt. We are already living in such depressing times and eventually the kids of today will be exposed to this as they come of age. Why throw them in this hellhole of a reality now? Let them keep some of their innocence for the time being and at least let them finish learning their maths, sciences, grammars and histories before throwing in realism because whether you like it or not, they will have understanding of it eventually.

I didn't grow up by being exposed to racism, sexism, and all that fun stuff, and as I sit here typing this I can confidently tell you all that I probably know more about anything than the rest of you, even under the such "censorship". As you come of age, your understanding of the world becomes more clear and everything just sort of falls into place. To expose kids to this now might just make them bitter and apathetic and not look forward into the future because it's already dark and bleak to begin with.. what's the point? Let them be children. They have the rest of their lives to read up or even experience racism, sexism, violence, rape, trauma, etc.

You guys make it seem like the government censored everything for good, much like how they censor stuff in China and other oppressive nations. All they did was ban certain literature that may be too complex and dark for the youth. They didn't ban it for good, because then, JK Rowling wouldn't be the millionaire she is now, or Tom Sawyer being referred to perpetually in all forms of media. A lot of you forget how lucky we are to be living here with this much freedom. But I guess it's never enough.

Just try to think outside the box every now and then, it's not that hard.
Would you purposely expose your children to things that may potentially traumatize them at their tender age? They still lack the skills to view things in different perceptions.

Still, I don't know why Harry Potter is banned.. perhaps because although the book seems to be aimed at young children, it is perhaps a bit dark and too complex for their understanding?
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I don't agree with the idea of censorship in the general sense of it's existence in a nation but i think schools fall under a little different system. I mean what purpose could there be for a school to use Harry Potter in it's curriculum. It's a popular book but it's not a great work of literature. The only reason I could see it being used is in middle school or something to get kids more interested in reading.

However I don't think books like Tom Sawyer should be removed from the reading list. I had to read that in high school, not fun but it showed a great deal of attention to that period of time and it was an amazing group. I heard there was a group trying to block the book because of the 'n' word but that's just stupid. The word had a different connotation at the time it was used and if you read the book it's pretty clear it wasn't said to do harm.

I don't believe there should be any censorship but there are some books that simply don't belong in an education area, and i'm referring to high school on down, not sure what the equivalent is in other countries.
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I am aganst banning books for kids that are OF THEIR GRADE LEVEL! Of COURSE an elementary school would not have "Black Like Me" in its libararys, for few kids will understand it. If its not in there in the FIRST place, its not going to be challenged.

However, banning Jack and the Beanstalk for "robbery" or Cinderella "for witchcraft" is ridiculous. For schools to ban "Harry Potter" at least 50% of their reading material would also have to be chucked, for plenty of them probobly has to to with relasonships, friendship anf witchcraft.

But, my above statements may deny provliges to more mature and advanced readers. I am a reader. I read harry potter in the second grade, I had a concept of everything around me, because I could handle it. There should be programs to provide books for kids who are way above the reading level of their class. When I was a kid, I never got challenged in school. I depended on my parents for challenging reading material.
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"Niggard" was in no way a contributor to the word nigger. It stemmed directly from "negro".

I can see how that might have made sense to you since you seem to think all black people are stupid, Hokie, but that's a false statement.
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wolzen wrote:

lol i know whats the big deal with calling a black person a nigger,nigga,niggar,nig,niglet those things call each other that all the time anyways


Agreed.
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