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Humanity is insignificant
Posted 11/25/08

Allhailodin wrote:


Gaia93 wrote:


Allhailodin wrote:


Gaia93 wrote:


Allhailodin wrote:

Think about how big the earth is, from one side of the earth to the other(going straight through at the equator) is roughly 3,963.22974 miles. Big right ? Nah, I'll make you realize just how insignificant we really are

The Milky Way Galaxy is roughly 100,000 light years across

1 light year = 5.87849981 × (10 to the 12th) miles

5.87849981 × (10 to the 12th) x 100 000 = 5.87849981 × (10 to the 17th)

5.87849981 × (10 to the 17th) = 587,800,000,000,000,000

Now the earth is only a mere 3,963.22 miles.

When you compare 3,963.22 to 587,800,000,000,000,000, you realize the humanity as a whole is so insignificant it's hilarious.

Now you have to realize that there are probally 100'ds of other 587,800,000,000,000,000 mile galaxies out there seperated by hundreds of times more of space. By now, the earth is on a atomic level. Truly insignificant. Humanity is truly insignificant, its funny.


If that's the case then how about you go kill yourself? Just saying if humanity is so insignifigant and if humans are so evil, then it wouldn't matter if we all got blown up the next day. Not trying to be rude or anything.


By that logic, are you going to kill yourself as well ? And I never said humans are evil. What is evil exactly ? If you can tell me what evil is without using any religious morals or anything from religion all together in your explanation, then i might listen to what you have to say.



First of all, I know you didn't say humans were evil, I was quoting someone else, and second I'm not that philosophical, I don't know much things about life and the universe, but I try to learn them from my experiences. Well what is evil? I’ve always thought it was a persons actions or morals that made a person evil. I could be wrong though, and if that's the case then enlighten me. What do you concider to evil to be?

And no, I probably wouldn't kill myself...


I have no definition for evil, If a human kills another human its wrong, yet your "god" killed hundreds of people, so a human killing another is fine by me. I honestly have no definition of evil. People have free will, who is anybody or anything to tell me what is right and wrong. I decide that for myself.


You say "God" as if it's a bad thing. If you don't believe in God, than that's fine. I'm not here to preach about anything. Actually I agree with you to some extent. People do have free will. Who has the right to tell anyone what is right and wrong? But the "human killing another human being is fine my me" thing, that I don't really agree with. No one has the right to take anyone's life. No one. I believe it's the free will that gets us killed, not God.

It's like this:

Say something tells you not to walk down a dark street at night. Is it God that got you shot by that bullet? I believe he gives you choices, you just have to choose which one you want to go with. By me saying that, what do YOU think?
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Posted 11/25/08 , edited 11/25/08

Allhailodin wrote:
Insignificant in terms of size, sure. But who the hell cares about space dust, cold vacuums and rocks flying around giant balls of fire? If humans were really insignificant we wouldn't be in any kind of position to make value judgments on inanimate objects. All you are doing is privilidging the size of the universe as significant. If humans were actually insignificant, your judgment of what is significant wouldn't matter because you are insignificant.
You are using human metrics, human technology, and human language to communicate with other humans, explain the significance of 587 800 000 000 000 000 miles of existence in this equation? All its doing is just sitting there. Boring. Humans are where they action is.

Would it make a difference if humans fell of the face of the earth ? Nah, if all of humanity ceased to exist for some reason, what difference will it make on a universal scale ? None. We have yet to leave an impact on our galaxy, so no other forms of life will remember us. If we were to all die right now, it wouldn't make a difference anyway, would it ?

587 800 000 000 000 000 miles is a vast vast area, the earth takes up nothing in that space. humans are confined to the earth. so there is a lot of space we haven't explored yet, and since we havent explored it, we have left no impact on the other forms of life, nothing, or nobody will remember us.


Well, now you all you are doing is privileging unknown, possibly non existent creatures, and their knowledge of us as significant. You are still apparently significant enough to decide what is important. So screw those alien pricks. What have they ever done to deserve the knowledge of the existence of humanity? They are the insignificant ones. It doesn't matter if we leave a trace or not because their existence is insignificant and whether or not they learn about us is moot.
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Posted 11/25/08

Gaia93 wrote:


Allhailodin wrote:


Gaia93 wrote:


Allhailodin wrote:


Gaia93 wrote:


Allhailodin wrote:

Think about how big the earth is, from one side of the earth to the other(going straight through at the equator) is roughly 3,963.22974 miles. Big right ? Nah, I'll make you realize just how insignificant we really are

The Milky Way Galaxy is roughly 100,000 light years across

1 light year = 5.87849981 × (10 to the 12th) miles

5.87849981 × (10 to the 12th) x 100 000 = 5.87849981 × (10 to the 17th)

5.87849981 × (10 to the 17th) = 587,800,000,000,000,000

Now the earth is only a mere 3,963.22 miles.

When you compare 3,963.22 to 587,800,000,000,000,000, you realize the humanity as a whole is so insignificant it's hilarious.

Now you have to realize that there are probally 100'ds of other 587,800,000,000,000,000 mile galaxies out there seperated by hundreds of times more of space. By now, the earth is on a atomic level. Truly insignificant. Humanity is truly insignificant, its funny.


If that's the case then how about you go kill yourself? Just saying if humanity is so insignifigant and if humans are so evil, then it wouldn't matter if we all got blown up the next day. Not trying to be rude or anything.


By that logic, are you going to kill yourself as well ? And I never said humans are evil. What is evil exactly ? If you can tell me what evil is without using any religious morals or anything from religion all together in your explanation, then i might listen to what you have to say.



First of all, I know you didn't say humans were evil, I was quoting someone else, and second I'm not that philosophical, I don't know much things about life and the universe, but I try to learn them from my experiences. Well what is evil? I’ve always thought it was a persons actions or morals that made a person evil. I could be wrong though, and if that's the case then enlighten me. What do you concider to evil to be?

And no, I probably wouldn't kill myself...


I have no definition for evil, If a human kills another human its wrong, yet your "god" killed hundreds of people, so a human killing another is fine by me. I honestly have no definition of evil. People have free will, who is anybody or anything to tell me what is right and wrong. I decide that for myself.


You say "God" as if it's a bad thing. If you don't believe in God, than that's fine. I'm not here to preach about anything. Actually I agree with you to some extent. People do have free will. Who has the right to tell anyone what is right and wrong? But the "human killing another human being is fine my me" thing, that I don't really agree with. No one has the right to take anyone's life. No one. I believe it's the free will that gets us killed, not God.

It's like this:

Say something tells you not to walk down a dark street at night. Is it God that got you shot by that bullet? I believe he gives you choices, you just have to choose which one you want to go with. By me saying that, what do YOU think?



No one has the right to take anyone's life. No one. I believe it's the free will that gets us killed, not God.


Fine think what you want. But in reality, a single person dying, will not make a difference on a large scale.


Say something tells you not to walk down a dark street at night. Is it God that got you shot by that bullet? I believe he gives you choices, you just have to choose which one you want to go with. By me saying that, what do YOU think?


In all actuality, death is not a big deal, people die all the time, its a part of life. So if someone gets shot and killed, life will still move forward.

But of something told me not to walk down a street, then I won't walk down that street. Simple
Posted 11/25/08

Allhailodin wrote:


Gaia93 wrote:


Allhailodin wrote:


Gaia93 wrote:


Allhailodin wrote:


Gaia93 wrote:


Allhailodin wrote:

Think about how big the earth is, from one side of the earth to the other(going straight through at the equator) is roughly 3,963.22974 miles. Big right ? Nah, I'll make you realize just how insignificant we really are

The Milky Way Galaxy is roughly 100,000 light years across

1 light year = 5.87849981 × (10 to the 12th) miles

5.87849981 × (10 to the 12th) x 100 000 = 5.87849981 × (10 to the 17th)

5.87849981 × (10 to the 17th) = 587,800,000,000,000,000

Now the earth is only a mere 3,963.22 miles.

When you compare 3,963.22 to 587,800,000,000,000,000, you realize the humanity as a whole is so insignificant it's hilarious.

Now you have to realize that there are probally 100'ds of other 587,800,000,000,000,000 mile galaxies out there seperated by hundreds of times more of space. By now, the earth is on a atomic level. Truly insignificant. Humanity is truly insignificant, its funny.


If that's the case then how about you go kill yourself? Just saying if humanity is so insignifigant and if humans are so evil, then it wouldn't matter if we all got blown up the next day. Not trying to be rude or anything.


By that logic, are you going to kill yourself as well ? And I never said humans are evil. What is evil exactly ? If you can tell me what evil is without using any religious morals or anything from religion all together in your explanation, then i might listen to what you have to say.



First of all, I know you didn't say humans were evil, I was quoting someone else, and second I'm not that philosophical, I don't know much things about life and the universe, but I try to learn them from my experiences. Well what is evil? I’ve always thought it was a persons actions or morals that made a person evil. I could be wrong though, and if that's the case then enlighten me. What do you concider to evil to be?

And no, I probably wouldn't kill myself...


I have no definition for evil, If a human kills another human its wrong, yet your "god" killed hundreds of people, so a human killing another is fine by me. I honestly have no definition of evil. People have free will, who is anybody or anything to tell me what is right and wrong. I decide that for myself.


You say "God" as if it's a bad thing. If you don't believe in God, than that's fine. I'm not here to preach about anything. Actually I agree with you to some extent. People do have free will. Who has the right to tell anyone what is right and wrong? But the "human killing another human being is fine my me" thing, that I don't really agree with. No one has the right to take anyone's life. No one. I believe it's the free will that gets us killed, not God.

It's like this:

Say something tells you not to walk down a dark street at night. Is it God that got you shot by that bullet? I believe he gives you choices, you just have to choose which one you want to go with. By me saying that, what do YOU think?



No one has the right to take anyone's life. No one. I believe it's the free will that gets us killed, not God.


Fine think what you want. But in reality, a single person dying, will not make a difference on a large scale.

I guess that's true in some matters.


Say something tells you not to walk down a dark street at night. Is it God that got you shot by that bullet? I believe he gives you choices, you just have to choose which one you want to go with. By me saying that, what do YOU think?


In all actuality, death is not a big deal, people die all the time, its a part of life. So if someone gets shot and killed, life will still move forward.

So you're saying if someone close to you got shot and killed, then it's not a big deal? I can understand the life will still move forward part, it may hurt for awhile, but that doesn't mean you're supposed to break down and kill yourself, but from that answer it sounds like you don't have any sympathy let alone empathy for anyone if they were to die, and yes death is a part of life but it's still a big deal for the people of the deceased.

But of something told me not to walk down a street, then I won't walk down that street. Simple


I'm glad you have enough sense to listen to it. Some people go anyway.

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Posted 11/25/08

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And how do you go about moving a solar system ?


unfortunately we cant move whole solar system we can only extract some stuff from it, then we use part of that stuff as fuel. and we need lots of fuel, much more than the mass of remaining spaceship.
Of course not very efficient way to spread but still same is with viruses they only use little part of human body and kill the rest.

I think movie series named LEXX dives best approximate(do not expect it to be scientific) demonstration how that may happen.
when Mantrid converts entire universe into its own drones.
(once it started process goes exponential and expansions may reach light speed.)
but later he gets destroyed because foolishly he collects to much mass in one place and makes inescapable black hole.
Posted 11/25/08
thats why we only live on earth...and lucky earth is the only planet we can live on...if not humans would destroy the whole galaxy.
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Allhailodin wrote:
Would it make a difference if humans fell of the face of the earth ? Nah, if all of humanity ceased to exist for some reason, what difference will it make on a universal scale ? None. We have yet to leave an impact on our galaxy, so no other forms of life will remember us. If we were to all die right now, it wouldn't make a difference anyway, would it ?


I see you like this argument, but then would it matter if entire infinite universe just collapsed into one speck if dust? who would care about that? would that be significant event?
what the difference if we are big or small? would something change if you were as big as galaxy? you would be no more significant as if you are in size of bacteria.
universe is infinite, and everything is equal to zero in comparison to infinity.

of course we are nothing in comparison to infinite universe, but we are something greater than zero in comparison to your galaxy, or your galactic super cluster and so on.
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Humanity is not insignificant, because we are Humanity.
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kiwisushi wrote:

thats why we only live on earth...and lucky earth is the only planet we can live on...if not humans would destroy the whole galaxy.

don't worry they will destroy it for sure sooner or later. Humanity have only less than billion years to leave earth before sun explodes or burns completely.
Posted 11/25/08

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kiwisushi wrote:

thats why we only live on earth...and lucky earth is the only planet we can live on...if not humans would destroy the whole galaxy.

don't worry they will destroy it for sure sooner or later. Humanity have only less than billion years to leave earth before sun explodes or burns completely.


yea...we are so...soo....

gaah..i cant even find a word to describe humans.
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Posted 11/25/08

kiwisushi wrote:


Digix wrote:


kiwisushi wrote:

thats why we only live on earth...and lucky earth is the only planet we can live on...if not humans would destroy the whole galaxy.

don't worry they will destroy it for sure sooner or later. Humanity have only less than billion years to leave earth before sun explodes or burns completely.


yea...we are so...soo....

gaah..i cant even find a word to describe humans.


I think best word would be alive here
since we do what all live beings do.
it is just a matter of scale
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Yes, humanity is small compared to the rest of the universe, but, as far as we know, were the only mortal creatures in it actually capable of creating these calculations, comprehending our own existence, and the only real reason for said existence. If we look at it in this perspective, were the smartest, strongest, most powerful kids in the biggest playground imaginable.
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