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If ichigo is consumed by his hollow form, wouldn't he have a shot at becoming an arrancar, maybe reach espada level?
Posted 11/27/08
I'm pretty sure that Ichigo is no typical weak hollow, when consumed by his hollow form. So is he capable of becoming a adjuchas, arrancar, maybe espada? He still carries his zanpaktou like the Grand Fisher, who later became an arrancar.
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Posted 11/27/08
Well, remember earlier in the manga/anime, the Shinigamis commented on how the more human the Hollow appears, the stronger it is?

As we saw during Ichigo's partial transformation against the Vizard (Visored..?), he had a very human shape. Also, even when he wasn't fully transformed (and thus, not as strong as he could possibly be), he was about to use a Cero - only something high level Hollows can use. So, he'd probably ranked a little above the adjuchas for sure. I'm also fairly certain he can overpower an Arrancar, as well. I mean, he nearly does with only using his mask, right?
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Posted 11/27/08

Loki2011 wrote:

Well, remember earlier in the manga/anime, the Shinigamis commented on how the more human the Hollow appears, the stronger it is?

As we saw during Ichigo's partial transformation against the Vizard (Visored..?), he had a very human shape. Also, even when he wasn't fully transformed (and thus, not as strong as he could possibly be), he was about to use a Cero - only something high level Hollows can use. So, he'd probably ranked a little above the adjuchas for sure. I'm also fairly certain he can overpower an Arrancar, as well. I mean, he nearly does with only using his mask, right?


If so, he should be at Espada level?
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Posted 11/28/08
It would take a lot of time but eventually yea, the potential is there.
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Posted 11/28/08
Hm... I guess something around Espada-level...
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Posted 11/28/08
If that happens, I think Ichigo will just be a normal hollow with espada level reiatsu because turning into a menos is a very long process and attaining Vasto Lorde level will take thousands of years.
Posted 11/29/08

anemowave wrote:

If that happens, I think Ichigo will just be a normal hollow with espada level reiatsu because turning into a menos is a very long process and attaining Vasto Lorde level will take thousands of years.


Yea that makes sense for da most part, cuz ichigo must merge with hundreds of hollows, but his reiatsu is high.
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Posted 11/29/08
Ok if ichigo became his hollow form he would be unstoppable during the fight with the vizards he was already at Espada level when he was in his transformation his hollow knew cero and was using it with his index and middle finger when it usually takes the whole hand to use cero so far only Uliquiora and Nintora have used cero without their entire hand i believe in that form he could have killed atleast 4 of the vizard there before actually being over powered maybe even more than 4 cuz they were about to be forced to attempt to kill him
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Posted 11/29/08
Menos Grande arent event strong they are just foot soldiers gillian controll menos as well as espada so if u really think about it menos are just small fry compaired to everyone else
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Posted 11/29/08
hell he's already as strong as some of the espada if he totally hollowfied (is that even a word )he would be mucho strong like level 9000 cos remember the ichigo hollow said he would come back so he's probably gonna get stronger again
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Posted 11/30/08

i think that hollow form of ichigo was its primative state, if he had continued to turn into a hollow, i bellieve the inner hollow would then have taken controll and further transformed, he would be a vastro lord. i mean when it was fighting them it seemed dumb. thats because it was not actually his inner hollow yet, it was just like a primal form of it, if his inner hollow had won that fight. he would have become insanely powerfull atleast to espada number 2 atleast.
Posted 2/18/09
he should be strong but wouldn't he also be evil?
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Posted 2/18/09
I don't think he'd get stronger. First of all, although we've heard of vasto lords, we've actually never seen one in action, pretty much so like the royal guards. We can only assume that they are stronger. Even so, with the espada's current levels that we're seeing, especially thanks to Ulquiorra's release, I really doubt he would be any stronger than that. Ichigo is already at espada level. Halibel made a comment on that and Ulquiorra won't admit it but he knows.

Personally, I think Ichigo going full hollow mode would be just like a ressureccion at maybe 4th, 5th level.
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Posted 2/19/09
Well first he'd have to die and not be sent to soul society in due time (I doubt this would happen). Then once a hollow, he'd have to consume a ton of other hollows and become a menos. If he can maintain his consciousness, he can become to consume other gillian, and become an adjuchas. Then eventually, he could become an arancar with a mask broken off and if he's one of the 10 most powerful people in Hueco Mundo then he'll be an espada.

Like, sure it's possible but it would take a really really long time. And like I said, I doubt that Ichigo wouldn't have a proper soul burial.

As for Ichigo's current power level. When Ulquiorra first sees ichigo and ichigo's hollow tries to take over during Ichigo's fight with yami, Ulquiorra states that when Ichigo's power is at his peak, it's even greater than his own reiatsu. Meaning Ichigo right now has the potential with growth to be at a top espada level (Even though he's not an espada, so it doesn't matter, just saying).
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