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engros's Avatar Level 35 Boy engros 1123 cr points Send Message: 20 / M Offline	Permalink Reply Quote Posted Dec 8 2008 DawgsKitten wrote: Of course. Non-Religious people are not bound by ridiculous laws like actually being able to think for themselves and grow into a more intelligent person. They are less likely to venture out and learn more things. Intelligence doesn't just have to do with Mathematical equations or solving word problems. We are not talking about school. We are talking real life here, kids. People who believe in god technically don't learn a thing on Sundays--seeing as they are not supposed to do anything exept for the worshipping of thier god. So see that takes oh around 42-ish days of learning a year that religious people don't get. Then of course some people even do it on Wednesdays.So let's make that 84 days a year. But with that "tech" bit aside--Non-Religious people are not tied down by a god. Some people refuse to dissect an animal because of their religion. There is another example. Religion is a baracade of the mind. It was made up by adults way-back-when that didn't know what to say when thier kids asked where the earth came from. I mean...seriously who in their right freakin mind would believe a 'virgin' got pregnant. Come on kids. Thats just not the way the system works.....And anyone who believes THAT is certainly not /that/ intelligent.... So you are saying that these people are not intelligent:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_thinkers_in_science
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FZTime 12422 cr points Send Message: 16 / Fluffly Land =D Online	Permalink Reply Quote Posted Dec 8 2008, edited Dec 8 2008 Darkphoenix3450 wrote: http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=4EWyD34FxmI&feature=related Non-Religious people are more likely to be Intelligent than the religious. Rational minds have little need for Gods.? Do you think thats true? Why Or Why Not National Academy of Sciences Pull shows that 85% of the Top leading Scientist in there Field are atheist. (that was in 2006. That is a 8% higher than it was no more than 8 years ago. According to a major study there’s a very strong correlation between atheism and societal health. Here are the most non-religious countries in the world, according to the findings: 1. Sweden 2. Vietnam 3. Denmark 4. Norway 5. Japan 6. Czech Republic 7. Finland 8. France 9. South Korea 10. Estonia From the paper: High levels of organic atheism are strongly correlated with high levels of societal health, such as low homicide rates, low poverty rates, low infant mortality rates, and low illiteracy rates, as well as high levels of educational attainment, per capita income, and gender equality. Most nations characterized by high degrees of individual and societal security have the highest rates of organic atheism, and conversely, nations characterized by low degrees of individual and societal security have the lowest rates of organic atheism. In some societies, particularly Europe, atheism is growing. However, throughout much of the world – particularly nations with high birth rates – atheism is barely discernible. well i sincerely apologize for not reading properly as it is 5 AM in the morning here...and i haven't slept =) if i'm understand correctly, u say that atheism is highly related to high levels of societal health? yes i guess that would be so...though the cause for atheism would be the high levels of societal health because with the people having everything they need...why is there a need for god? everything is there for them.... while people are poor and have nothing...religion gives them hope...hope for a better future however, i disagree that rational minds have little need for gods...when i have found an appropriate answer to that..i'll post again =) deleted my previous posts to start afresh on this discussion XD i'm sorry i thought the thread was on the extreme stuff again...been seeing that alot lately and its quite irritating >.<
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FZTime 12422 cr points Send Message: 16 / Fluffly Land =D Online	Permalink Reply Quote Posted Dec 8 2008 Darkphoenix3450 wrote: brogits wrote: to the OP: no matter how i look at it, and despite all the stats you've given, i'm still not convinced. for you to actually easily accept this theory without deferring judgment, aren't you being too simplistic? can religious beliefs really affect the way you solve a mathematical problem, or any brain twister for that matter? sounds a little far fetched to me. hmmm....well perhaps religion and intelligence are correlated to some extent. but even if the stats are right, what if you're just wrongly interpreting them? how far can religion affect one's intelligence? if a religious person would set aside his beliefs, wouldn't he be able to think logically too? isn't he still innately intelligent? my point may not come out that clear so let me illustrate my idea. obviously, if you ask who is more intelligent--a student or a doctor (stereotyping here, just like your theory), you'd most likely answer the doctor. while this may be true, let's not forget that the student is still learning and hasn't reached his/her full potential yet so the student may be more intelligent. my point is, i think intelligence is relative. you can't really label religious people as generally less intelligent. hmmm...haha...what if, a religious person is influenced by an atheist to abandon his faith, and the ex-religious person then displays even more intelligence than the atheist because he has already detached himself from religiosity. what does that make him? wasn't he originally more intelligent than the atheist, but he just didn't reach his full potential yet before because he was tied to his faith? The red in this case would it not show that religion was indeed holding man kind back if that was the case? Because of religion that person was not able to reach his full potential once he was free of that crutch he was able to climb to new heights that is actually if WAS THE CASE would make the stats I places even more true. I am not saying that people who are religious are stupid. I am saying religion in it self holds humans back, from being able to find there full potential as intellectuals. Its A crutch that in the end hinders on ones growth. i see here...that like me...alot people misunderstand you =) i'm sorry for that...well maybe religion does hinder one...i belief in a god...but this might be true...but do take into account of the level of belief...and even though religion forbids things...the human mind still runs free...it is the action which they limit...i guess that would affect things like experiments and such...for example where religions forbid you to kill mice and stuff for experiments...yes that would hinder the knowledge gain of the person but that depends too..on the level of belief...some people are not strong in their faith...though they believe in a god...they do not let their religion hinder them...that may be the case for people like albert einstein and many other people =)
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kyoukoujin 18886 cr points Send Message: 25 / M / USA Offline	Permalink Reply Quote Posted Dec 8 2008 Spoiler Alert!!! click to hide or show Darkphoenix3450 wrote: http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=4EWyD34FxmI&feature=related Non-Religious people are more likely to be Intelligent than the religious. Rational minds have little need for Gods.? Do you think thats true? Why Or Why Not National Academy of Sciences Pull shows that 85% of the Top leading Scientist in there Field are atheist. (that was in 2006. That is a 8% higher than it was no more than 8 years ago. According to a major study there’s a very strong correlation between atheism and societal health. Here are the most non-religious countries in the world, according to the findings: 1. Sweden 2. Vietnam 3. Denmark 4. Norway 5. Japan 6. Czech Republic 7. Finland 8. France 9. South Korea 10. Estonia From the paper: High levels of organic atheism are strongly correlated with high levels of societal health, such as low homicide rates, low poverty rates, low infant mortality rates, and low illiteracy rates, as well as high levels of educational attainment, per capita income, and gender equality. Most nations characterized by high degrees of individual and societal security have the highest rates of organic atheism, and conversely, nations characterized by low degrees of individual and societal security have the lowest rates of organic atheism. In some societies, particularly Europe, atheism is growing. However, throughout much of the world – particularly nations with high birth rates – atheism is barely discernible. Please, don't tell me you're non-religious.
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Darkphoenix3450 8612 cr points Send Message: 29 / M Offline	Permalink Reply Quote Posted Dec 8 2008 kyoukoujin wrote: Spoiler Alert!!! click to hide or show Darkphoenix3450 wrote: http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=4EWyD34FxmI&feature=related Non-Religious people are more likely to be Intelligent than the religious. Rational minds have little need for Gods.? Do you think thats true? Why Or Why Not National Academy of Sciences Pull shows that 85% of the Top leading Scientist in there Field are atheist. (that was in 2006. That is a 8% higher than it was no more than 8 years ago. According to a major study there’s a very strong correlation between atheism and societal health. Here are the most non-religious countries in the world, according to the findings: 1. Sweden 2. Vietnam 3. Denmark 4. Norway 5. Japan 6. Czech Republic 7. Finland 8. France 9. South Korea 10. Estonia From the paper: High levels of organic atheism are strongly correlated with high levels of societal health, such as low homicide rates, low poverty rates, low infant mortality rates, and low illiteracy rates, as well as high levels of educational attainment, per capita income, and gender equality. Most nations characterized by high degrees of individual and societal security have the highest rates of organic atheism, and conversely, nations characterized by low degrees of individual and societal security have the lowest rates of organic atheism. In some societies, particularly Europe, atheism is growing. However, throughout much of the world – particularly nations with high birth rates – atheism is barely discernible. Please, don't tell me you're non-religious. Don't tell me? Your a barbarian that have bronze age Ideals created by people that think that earth is flat with a dome on it, and the moon makes its own source of light.?
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kyoukoujin 18886 cr points Send Message: 25 / M / USA Offline	Permalink Reply Quote Posted Dec 8 2008, edited Dec 8 2008 Darkphoenix3450 wrote: kyoukoujin wrote: Spoiler Alert!!! click to hide or show Darkphoenix3450 wrote: http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=4EWyD34FxmI&feature=related Non-Religious people are more likely to be Intelligent than the religious. Rational minds have little need for Gods.? Do you think thats true? Why Or Why Not National Academy of Sciences Pull shows that 85% of the Top leading Scientist in there Field are atheist. (that was in 2006. That is a 8% higher than it was no more than 8 years ago. According to a major study there’s a very strong correlation between atheism and societal health. Here are the most non-religious countries in the world, according to the findings: 1. Sweden 2. Vietnam 3. Denmark 4. Norway 5. Japan 6. Czech Republic 7. Finland 8. France 9. South Korea 10. Estonia From the paper: High levels of organic atheism are strongly correlated with high levels of societal health, such as low homicide rates, low poverty rates, low infant mortality rates, and low illiteracy rates, as well as high levels of educational attainment, per capita income, and gender equality. Most nations characterized by high degrees of individual and societal security have the highest rates of organic atheism, and conversely, nations characterized by low degrees of individual and societal security have the lowest rates of organic atheism. In some societies, particularly Europe, atheism is growing. However, throughout much of the world – particularly nations with high birth rates – atheism is barely discernible. Please, don't tell me you're non-religious. Don't tell me? Your a barbarian that have bronze age Ideals created by people that think that earth is flat with a dome on it, and the moon makes its own source of light.? Way to put words on my mouth, you jerk. I ask a yes or no question, you responded with rudeness.
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Darkphoenix3450 8612 cr points Send Message: 29 / M Offline	Permalink Reply Quote Posted Dec 8 2008 kyoukoujin wrote: Darkphoenix3450 wrote: kyoukoujin wrote: Spoiler Alert!!! click to hide or show Darkphoenix3450 wrote: http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=4EWyD34FxmI&feature=related Non-Religious people are more likely to be Intelligent than the religious. Rational minds have little need for Gods.? Do you think thats true? Why Or Why Not National Academy of Sciences Pull shows that 85% of the Top leading Scientist in there Field are atheist. (that was in 2006. That is a 8% higher than it was no more than 8 years ago. According to a major study there’s a very strong correlation between atheism and societal health. Here are the most non-religious countries in the world, according to the findings: 1. Sweden 2. Vietnam 3. Denmark 4. Norway 5. Japan 6. Czech Republic 7. Finland 8. France 9. South Korea 10. Estonia From the paper: High levels of organic atheism are strongly correlated with high levels of societal health, such as low homicide rates, low poverty rates, low infant mortality rates, and low illiteracy rates, as well as high levels of educational attainment, per capita income, and gender equality. Most nations characterized by high degrees of individual and societal security have the highest rates of organic atheism, and conversely, nations characterized by low degrees of individual and societal security have the lowest rates of organic atheism. In some societies, particularly Europe, atheism is growing. However, throughout much of the world – particularly nations with high birth rates – atheism is barely discernible. Please, don't tell me you're non-religious. Don't tell me? Your a barbarian that have bronze age Ideals created by people that think that earth is flat with a dome on it, and the moon makes its own source of light.? Way to put words on my mouth, you jerk. I ask a yes or no question, you responded with rudeness. NO it was more of a joke.. But truthfully is really your belief? You took it hard, so might I be close?
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kyoukoujin 18886 cr points Send Message: 25 / M / USA Offline	Permalink Reply Quote Posted Dec 8 2008 Darkphoenix3450 wrote: kyoukoujin wrote: Darkphoenix3450 wrote: kyoukoujin wrote: Spoiler Alert!!! click to hide or show Darkphoenix3450 wrote: http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=4EWyD34FxmI&feature=related Non-Religious people are more likely to be Intelligent than the religious. Rational minds have little need for Gods.? Do you think thats true? Why Or Why Not National Academy of Sciences Pull shows that 85% of the Top leading Scientist in there Field are atheist. (that was in 2006. That is a 8% higher than it was no more than 8 years ago. According to a major study there’s a very strong correlation between atheism and societal health. Here are the most non-religious countries in the world, according to the findings: 1. Sweden 2. Vietnam 3. Denmark 4. Norway 5. Japan 6. Czech Republic 7. Finland 8. France 9. South Korea 10. Estonia From the paper: High levels of organic atheism are strongly correlated with high levels of societal health, such as low homicide rates, low poverty rates, low infant mortality rates, and low illiteracy rates, as well as high levels of educational attainment, per capita income, and gender equality. Most nations characterized by high degrees of individual and societal security have the highest rates of organic atheism, and conversely, nations characterized by low degrees of individual and societal security have the lowest rates of organic atheism. In some societies, particularly Europe, atheism is growing. However, throughout much of the world – particularly nations with high birth rates – atheism is barely discernible. Please, don't tell me you're non-religious. Don't tell me? Your a barbarian that have bronze age Ideals created by people that think that earth is flat with a dome on it, and the moon makes its own source of light.? Way to put words on my mouth, you jerk. I ask a yes or no question, you responded with rudeness. NO it was more of a joke.. But truthfully is really your belief? You took it hard, so might I be close? Never mind. I don't like people who imaginary put words on somebody's else mouth, rude, and who believes he's a mind reader. I ask 1 + 1 = ? .... you answer "aaah, it's blue." kthanks bye (o^_^o)
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DawgsKitten 495 cr points Send Message: 20 / F / Tennessee Offline	Permalink Reply Quote Posted Dec 8 2008 engros wrote: DawgsKitten wrote: Of course. Non-Religious people are not bound by ridiculous laws like actually being able to think for themselves and grow into a more intelligent person. They are less likely to venture out and learn more things. Intelligence doesn't just have to do with Mathematical equations or solving word problems. We are not talking about school. We are talking real life here, kids. People who believe in god technically don't learn a thing on Sundays--seeing as they are not supposed to do anything exept for the worshipping of thier god. So see that takes oh around 42-ish days of learning a year that religious people don't get. Then of course some people even do it on Wednesdays.So let's make that 84 days a year. But with that "tech" bit aside--Non-Religious people are not tied down by a god. Some people refuse to dissect an animal because of their religion. There is another example. Religion is a baracade of the mind. It was made up by adults way-back-when that didn't know what to say when thier kids asked where the earth came from. I mean...seriously who in their right freakin mind would believe a 'virgin' got pregnant. Come on kids. Thats just not the way the system works.....And anyone who believes THAT is certainly not /that/ intelligent.... So you are saying that these people are not intelligent:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_thinkers_in_science Hun, did you even read the first paragraph of that...? "The list in non-exhaustive and strictly limited to scientists who also contributed to Christian theology or religious thinking." 90% of the people on that list were theologists. Meaning they studied the religion. But it's okay. You tried kiddo. You tried.
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engros's Avatar Level 35 Boy engros 1123 cr points Send Message: 20 / M Offline	Permalink Reply Quote Posted Dec 9 2008 DawgsKitten wrote: engros wrote: DawgsKitten wrote: Of course. Non-Religious people are not bound by ridiculous laws like actually being able to think for themselves and grow into a more intelligent person. They are less likely to venture out and learn more things. Intelligence doesn't just have to do with Mathematical equations or solving word problems. We are not talking about school. We are talking real life here, kids. People who believe in god technically don't learn a thing on Sundays--seeing as they are not supposed to do anything exept for the worshipping of thier god. So see that takes oh around 42-ish days of learning a year that religious people don't get. Then of course some people even do it on Wednesdays.So let's make that 84 days a year. But with that "tech" bit aside--Non-Religious people are not tied down by a god. Some people refuse to dissect an animal because of their religion. There is another example. Religion is a baracade of the mind. It was made up by adults way-back-when that didn't know what to say when thier kids asked where the earth came from. I mean...seriously who in their right freakin mind would believe a 'virgin' got pregnant. Come on kids. Thats just not the way the system works.....And anyone who believes THAT is certainly not /that/ intelligent.... So you are saying that these people are not intelligent:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_thinkers_in_science Hun, did you even read the first paragraph of that...? "The list in non-exhaustive and strictly limited to scientists who also contributed to Christian theology or religious thinking." 90% of the people on that list were theologists. Meaning they studied the religion. But it's okay. You tried kiddo. You tried. You still haven't responded correctly. So are you saying that those people are not intelligent. The first paragraph only meant that the list doesn't include scientists outside of Christianity. And yes they are theologists, but Christian theologists nonetheless. So tell me where have I been wrong? I wasn't proving anything either. I was asking you if you really think that those people are not intelligent. And have you read why there were included? Their contributions to science/history/philosophy? How about Einstein who believed in Spinoza's god?
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brogits 2690 cr points Send Message: 18 / F / guess where Offline	Permalink Reply Quote Posted Dec 9 2008, edited Dec 9 2008 DawgsKitten wrote: engros wrote: DawgsKitten wrote: Of course. Non-Religious people are not bound by ridiculous laws like actually being able to think for themselves and grow into a more intelligent person. They are less likely to venture out and learn more things. Intelligence doesn't just have to do with Mathematical equations or solving word problems. We are not talking about school. We are talking real life here, kids. People who believe in god technically don't learn a thing on Sundays--seeing as they are not supposed to do anything exept for the worshipping of thier god. So see that takes oh around 42-ish days of learning a year that religious people don't get. Then of course some people even do it on Wednesdays.So let's make that 84 days a year. But with that "tech" bit aside--Non-Religious people are not tied down by a god. Some people refuse to dissect an animal because of their religion. There is another example. Religion is a baracade of the mind. It was made up by adults way-back-when that didn't know what to say when thier kids asked where the earth came from. I mean...seriously who in their right freakin mind would believe a 'virgin' got pregnant. Come on kids. Thats just not the way the system works.....And anyone who believes THAT is certainly not /that/ intelligent.... So you are saying that these people are not intelligent:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_thinkers_in_science Hun, did you even read the first paragraph of that...? "The list in non-exhaustive and strictly limited to scientists who also contributed to Christian theology or religious thinking." 90% of the people on that list were theologists. Meaning they studied the religion. But it's okay. You tried kiddo. You tried. haha. i think you have overlooked engros' point. perhaps you were too concerned about his age instead of the gist of what he's saying. hmm...i guess you're too mature to be open-minded? anyways, i think engros was trying to say that there are people who have high IQ but adhere, nevertheless, to some religion. take for instance rene descartes. if you think he's not that intelligent, then i believe you must have a high opinion of your own intelligence to actually look down on his. another thing, how does one measure intelligence? i highly doubt any IQ test would ask anything about one's faith...or any subjective questions for that matter. ---->this was taken from my previous post mmm...i have some things to add as well. just to clarify, faith is belief in inspiration, revelation, or authority while rationality is belief based on reason or evidence. rationalists point out that many people hold irrational beliefs, for many reasons. there may be evolutionary causes for irrational beliefs — irrational beliefs may increase our ability to survive and reproduce. or, according to pascal's wager, it may be to our advantage to have faith, because faith may promise infinite rewards, while the rewards of reason are necessarily finite. beliefs held "by faith" may be seen with the following relationship to rationality: >faith as addressing issues beyond the scope of rationality: in this view, faith is seen as covering issues that science and rationality are inherently incapable of addressing, but that are nevertheless entirely real. accordingly, faith is seen as complementing rationality, by providing answers to questions that would otherwise be unanswerable.
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marie_2902 3355 cr points Send Message: 21 / F / Morocco Offline	Permalink Reply Quote Posted Dec 9 2008 if we're talking about intellignce & science i rather not mix it with religion! anyway in the scienctific world the persons beliefs should stay private & what is important is the competence & the hard work!!!
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marie_2902 3355 cr points Send Message: 21 / F / Morocco Offline	Permalink Reply Quote Posted Dec 9 2008, edited Dec 9 2008 brogits wrote: DawgsKitten wrote: engros wrote: DawgsKitten wrote: Of course. Non-Religious people are not bound by ridiculous laws like actually being able to think for themselves and grow into a more intelligent person. They are less likely to venture out and learn more things. Intelligence doesn't just have to do with Mathematical equations or solving word problems. We are not talking about school. We are talking real life here, kids. People who believe in god technically don't learn a thing on Sundays--seeing as they are not supposed to do anything exept for the worshipping of thier god. So see that takes oh around 42-ish days of learning a year that religious people don't get. Then of course some people even do it on Wednesdays.So let's make that 84 days a year. But with that "tech" bit aside--Non-Religious people are not tied down by a god. Some people refuse to dissect an animal because of their religion. There is another example. Religion is a baracade of the mind. It was made up by adults way-back-when that didn't know what to say when thier kids asked where the earth came from. I mean...seriously who in their right freakin mind would believe a 'virgin' got pregnant. Come on kids. Thats just not the way the system works.....And anyone who believes THAT is certainly not /that/ intelligent.... So you are saying that these people are not intelligent:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_thinkers_in_science Hun, did you even read the first paragraph of that...? "The list in non-exhaustive and strictly limited to scientists who also contributed to Christian theology or religious thinking." 90% of the people on that list were theologists. Meaning they studied the religion. But it's okay. You tried kiddo. You tried. haha. i think you have overlooked engros' point. perhaps you were too concerned about his age instead of the gist of what he's saying. hmm...i guess you're too mature to be open-minded? anyways, i think engros was trying to say that there are people who have high IQ but adhere, nevertheless, to some religion. take for instance rene descartes. if you think he's not that intelligent, then i believe you must have a high opinion of your own intelligence to actually look down on his. another thing, how does one measure intelligence? i highly doubt any IQ test would ask anything about one's faith...or any subjective questions for that matter. ---->this was taken from my previous post mmm...i have some things to add as well. just to clarify, faith is belief in inspiration, revelation, or authority while rationality is belief based on reason or evidence. rationalists point out that many people hold irrational beliefs, for many reasons. there may be evolutionary causes for irrational beliefs — irrational beliefs may increase our ability to survive and reproduce. or, according to pascal's wager, it may be to our advantage to have faith, because faith may promise infinite rewards, while the rewards of reason are necessarily finite. beliefs held "by faith" may be seen with the following relationship to rationality: >faith as addressing issues beyond the scope of rationality: in this view, faith is seen as covering issues that science and rationality are inherently incapable of addressing, but that are nevertheless entirely real. accordingly, faith is seen as complementing rationality, by providing answers to questions that would otherwise be unanswerable. wll,here are some intresting discussion,intelligence & religion,i think someone intelligent or not has nothing to do with his beliefs! Do you know that rligious people are healthier,have longer life esteem & more balenced,(Sciences et vie) So,Religion & science are not enemies,for me they are two faces for the same piece of money !!!(that's what i think) finally, a hungarian proverb says:""The believer is happy; the doubter is wise."^_^
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Narc_7 658 cr points Send Message: 18 / M / In your imaginati... Offline	Permalink Reply Quote Posted Dec 9 2008 Its not 'intelligent' to generalize and stereotype like that. The concept intelligence is not bound by religious beliefs or perceptions. Its simply one's natural ability to reason logically and rationally. In many religions rationality must be discarded to accommodate dogmatism but that does not essentially mean that one's intelligence is limited or has decreased; it all comes down how one was socialized.
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JJT2 3702 cr points Send Message: forgot where Offline	Permalink Reply Quote Posted Dec 9 2008, edited Dec 9 2008 Darkphoenix3450 wrote: http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=4EWyD34FxmI&feature=related Non-Religious people are more likely to be Intelligent than the religious. Rational minds have little need for Gods.? Do you think thats true? Why Or Why Not National Academy of Sciences Pull shows that 85% of the Top leading Scientist in there Field are atheist. (that was in 2006. That is a 8% higher than it was no more than 8 years ago. According to a major study there’s a very strong correlation between atheism and societal health. Here are the most non-religious countries in the world, according to the findings: 1. Sweden 2. Vietnam 3. Denmark 4. Norway 5. Japan 6. Czech Republic 7. Finland 8. France 9. South Korea 10. Estonia From the paper: High levels of organic atheism are strongly correlated with high levels of societal health, such as low homicide rates, low poverty rates, low infant mortality rates, and low illiteracy rates, as well as high levels of educational attainment, per capita income, and gender equality. Most nations characterized by high degrees of individual and societal security have the highest rates of organic atheism, and conversely, nations characterized by low degrees of individual and societal security have the lowest rates of organic atheism. In some societies, particularly Europe, atheism is growing. However, throughout much of the world – particularly nations with high birth rates – atheism is barely discernible. And so what is the connection between religion and intelligence? What do they have to do with each other? I can use similar statistics to debunk different races of people. What are you trying to prove?Statistics only show what is, but they dont tell why.99% of black people are in jail in places like the US.Are you really going to say they do crime because they are black?or is the why a little more complicated then that? intelligence is genetic and environmental, knowledge is taught, and wisdom is gained. peace over war Edit: ok, forgive me, i forgot to answer the why or why not part- no, because "intelligence is genetic and environmental, knowledge is taught, and wisdom is gained." peace over war
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