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Posted 11/30/08

Japanese, Russian Heads to Discuss Joint Doraemon Anime (Updated)

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2008-11-20/japanese-russian-heads-to-discuss-joint-doraemon-anime

Asō, Medvedev to talk of project with manga robot cat & Russian folklore creature

Not-So-Daily Link of the Day: The Jiji Press news source reports that Japanese Prime Minister Tarō Asō and Russian President Dmitry Medvedev will discuss a joint anime production starring the Japanese manga character Doraemon and the Russian folklore creature "Dorafei" on Saturday. The two leaders will be meeting in Peru this weekend with other world figures at the Asian-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) summit. Former Foreign Minister Masahiko Kōmura had already appointed Hiroshi Fujimoto and Motoo Abiko's Doraemon robotic cat as Japan's first "anime cultural ambassador" in March. Doraemon is popular in Russia, and Medvedev's wife Svetlana joined a Doraemon film showing at the Japanese Embassy in Moscow last Sunday.

Asō successfully sought the post of prime minister this past September after serving as foreign minister from 2005 to 2007. Asō is well-known for his voracious manga-reading habits ("about 10 to 20 [manga magazines] a week") and for overseeing the first International Manga Awards. When Asō was foreign minister, his ministry increasingly used manga to communicate its message, particularly through specially commissioned Detective Conan manga pamphlets and complimentary copies of the Barefoot Gen manga at a nuclear non-proliferation meeting. He also called upon former French presidential candidate Segolene Royal to "read a little bit more" manga after Royal criticized manga for a perceived high degree of tolerance for expressions of violence and pornography.

Update: The Reuters and AFP news services report that acclaimed Studio Ghibli co-founder and director Hayao Miyazaki (Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind, Spirited Away, Ponyo on the Cliff by the Sea) criticized Asō during a Thursday news conference for overemphasizing his manga reading. When asked about the conservative minister's manga habit, Miyazaki said, "It's an embarrassment. That's something that should be done in private." Miyazaki also downplayed the use of Japanese entertainment to promote the country — as Aso has been advocating — and to raise Japan's youth. The director warned of nationalism by noting, "We learned from the last war that the town we love or the country we love can always turn into something bad to the world. I believe we must not forget what we learned."

I have only one thing to quote on this "the truth is stranger than fiction."
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oo wow... president of russia..? there's gotta be something fishy.... when it comes to dealing with russia.. always got strings attach somewhere... damn that's just weird.......well as long as russia doesn't takes over japan i'm cool with it.... for now..
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As Shannon Hale said, "Hearing and reading strange stories can help you believe it when strange things happen." I'm a bookworm and a fun fact collector, and even I'm having a hard time believing that one. I mean, it's awesome, but the Russian president meating up with the Japanese prime minister to discuss DORAEMON?!

And I agree with Miyazaki. That prime minister's gotta stop trying to convince important politicians to read manga. As Nina put it....


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As Shannon Hale said, "Hearing and reading strange stories can help you believe it when strange things happen." I'm a bookworm and a fun fact collector, and even I'm having a hard time believing that one. I mean, it's awesome, but the Russian president meating up with the Japanese prime minister to discuss DORAEMON?!

And I agree with Miyazaki. That prime minister's gotta stop trying to convince important politicians to read manga. As Nina put it....




Agree, dumb down the population is a poor concept in politics, for we had the Chinese Cultural Revolution(http://library.thinkquest.org/26469/cultural-revolution/) to prove that. Anime subculture still need a lot of reforming and maturing in its social, industrial, economical, and spiritual aspects before it can be considered as a mainstream culture. And to do that, its intellectual value needs to be protected legally through legitimacy.
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oo wow... president of russia..? there's gotta be something fishy.... when it comes to dealing with russia.. always got strings attach somewhere... damn that's just weird.......well as long as russia doesn't takes over japan i'm cool with it.... for now..


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Yeah I had heard about this awhile ago ,funny,wish they had chosen Astroboy though.
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lkmjr wrote:

As Shannon Hale said, "Hearing and reading strange stories can help you believe it when strange things happen." I'm a bookworm and a fun fact collector, and even I'm having a hard time believing that one. I mean, it's awesome, but the Russian president meating up with the Japanese prime minister to discuss DORAEMON?!

And I agree with Miyazaki. That prime minister's gotta stop trying to convince important politicians to read manga. As Nina put it....




Agree, dumb down the population is a poor concept in politics, for we had the Chinese Cultural Revolution(http://library.thinkquest.org/26469/cultural-revolution/) to prove that. Anime subculture still need a lot of reforming and maturing in its social, industrial, economical, and spiritual aspects before it can be considered as a mainstream culture. And to do that, its intellectual value needs to be protected legally through legitimacy.


Good point. Another thing about anime, though, that makes it so popular world wide is that it's far less dumbed-down than many other forms of entertainment. I mean, there are some mindless animes and animes meant for little kids that have to be easily understood by the audience, but others you really have to think your way around. American TV nowadays isn't pretty. I see the stuff my brothers watch in passing, and Disney Channel is basically one romantic drama (minus a lot of the drama)/comedy after another, Cartoon Network has mostly shows that show almost nothing but stupid characters doing stupid things for stupid reasons in the most annoying way possible (and yet they categorize that as comedy?!), and most of the other channels seem equally unappetizing.

Anime, on the other hand, contains a lot of original, complex themes that carry the story along well. There's things like CLANNAD, which leaves little mysteries everywhere for the watcher to try and think through, or things like ef ~a tale of memories~ and ef ~a tale of melodies~, which are presented in such a way that it bores right into the center of the human mind, leading the watchers hanging as they wildly try to think through what's happening. It doesn't spoon-feed every complicated line to the watcher or avoid being confusing and enigmatic. Many of them are comparable to Dan Brown's books (The da Vinci Code, Angels and Demons) on the level that the loose ends don't get tied up until the very end, and when they do you still end up spending hours afterward turning the whole thing over in your mind.

Part of the problem with that, though, is that while those animes have a lot of fans, some of the mindless ones have legions more. When big-time anime companies in the US and other countries are looking for money, they turn to shows like that in order to appeal to as large an audience as possible. Yet some of the really well-thought, masterpeice-level animes are still on CR because those companies seem to be more concerned about gaining buyers than delivering the best material to the ones they already have. I mean, it makes sense from a purely (crud, I can't think of the word I'm looking for) point of view, but it still bothers me. Not that I'm not glad it's still here, but it bothers me when the really good titles aren't licensed because they won't make as much profit. It's like how shounen titles are being licensed left and right, but hardly any shoujos.
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zero-shinji wrote:

oo wow... president of russia..? there's gotta be something fishy.... when it comes to dealing with russia.. always got strings attach somewhere... damn that's just weird.......well as long as russia doesn't takes over japan i'm cool with it.... for now..


US got japans back


true but, gov' t tension between Japan wanting a army force to protect themselve is an issue, ever since WWII , Japan isn't allow to have an army nor air force for the matter. I don't think its a tension just cant find the exact words to put in. Probably an issue of some what. Politics is really not my strong suit, i'n just an amateur at it
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Yeah I had heard about this awhile ago ,funny,wish they had chosen Astroboy though.


The irony is that, in the latest Astro Boy manga adaptation Pluto, Astro Boy is the Goodwill Ambassador representing the U.N. during a post Middle East war era.

It could be worst, for all things considered, they might have gone with Hello Kitty.


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Good point. Another thing about anime, though, that makes it so popular world wide is that it's far less dumbed-down than many other forms of entertainment. I mean, there are some mindless animes and animes meant for little kids that have to be easily understood by the audience, but others you really have to think your way around. American TV nowadays isn't pretty. I see the stuff my brothers watch in passing, and Disney Channel is basically one romantic drama (minus a lot of the drama)/comedy after another, Cartoon Network has mostly shows that show almost nothing but stupid characters doing stupid things for stupid reasons in the most annoying way possible (and yet they categorize that as comedy?!), and most of the other channels seem equally unappetizing.

Anime, on the other hand, contains a lot of original, complex themes that carry the story along well. There's things like CLANNAD, which leaves little mysteries everywhere for the watcher to try and think through, or things like ef ~a tale of memories~ and ef ~a tale of melodies~, which are presented in such a way that it bores right into the center of the human mind, leading the watchers hanging as they wildly try to think through what's happening. It doesn't spoon-feed every complicated line to the watcher or avoid being confusing and enigmatic. Many of them are comparable to Dan Brown's books (The da Vinci Code, Angels and Demons) on the level that the loose ends don't get tied up until the very end, and when they do you still end up spending hours afterward turning the whole thing over in your mind.

Part of the problem with that, though, is that while those animes have a lot of fans, some of the mindless ones have legions more. When big-time anime companies in the US and other countries are looking for money, they turn to shows like that in order to appeal to as large an audience as possible. Yet some of the really well-thought, masterpeice-level animes are still on CR because those companies seem to be more concerned about gaining buyers than delivering the best material to the ones they already have. I mean, it makes sense from a purely (crud, I can't think of the word I'm looking for) point of view, but it still bothers me. Not that I'm not glad it's still here, but it bothers me when the really good titles aren't licensed because they won't make as much profit. It's like how shounen titles are being licensed left and right, but hardly any shoujos.


And what dignity was left in North American TV network, is torn apart by reality TV program like Jackass. What happened to good quality programs like the Junkyard War and Queer Eye For The Straight Guy(the hardcover book makes a good read), too much to ask for? I want to be inspired and challenged, not to be gratified by watching others doing worst than I am, while I ended up not gaining anything and the idiots of the world got their 5 seconds of fame on national TV programs.

However such is the reality of consumerism; you'll get the biggest payback by appealing toward the largest/lowest common denominator: insecurity, poverty, intellectually challenged, ignorance, immaturity, and shallowness.


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Rail_Man wrote:


zero-shinji wrote:

oo wow... president of russia..? there's gotta be something fishy.... when it comes to dealing with russia.. always got strings attach somewhere... damn that's just weird.......well as long as russia doesn't takes over japan i'm cool with it.... for now..


US got japans back


true but, gov' t tension between Japan wanting a army force to protect themselve is an issue, ever since WWII , Japan isn't allow to have an army nor air force for the matter. I don't think its a tension just cant find the exact words to put in. Probably an issue of some what. Politics is really not my strong suit, i'n just an amateur at it


The real issue here is how the Japanese government want to install a sense of nationalism among their people, the government is willing to revolt on item No.11 of the Proclamation Defining Terms for Japanese Surrender(http://www.ndl.go.jp/constitution/e/etc/c06.html):


Japan shall be permitted to maintain such industries as will sustain her economy and permit the exaction of just reparations in kind, but not those which would enable her to re-arm for war. To this end, access to, as distinguished from control of, raw materials shall be permitted. Eventual Japanese participation in world trade relations shall be permitted.


The Japanese Self-Defense Forces are funded by the Japanese government, and manned by the Japanese citizens. But the Self-Defense Forces only follow the U.N. order.
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superninjaboy wrote:

Yeah I had heard about this awhile ago ,funny,wish they had chosen Astroboy though.


The irony is that, in the latest Astro Boy manga adaptation Pluto, Astro Boy is the Goodwill Ambassador representing the U.N. during a post Middle East war era.

It could be worst, for all things considered, they might have gone with Hello Kitty.


lkmjr wrote:



Good point. Another thing about anime, though, that makes it so popular world wide is that it's far less dumbed-down than many other forms of entertainment. I mean, there are some mindless animes and animes meant for little kids that have to be easily understood by the audience, but others you really have to think your way around. American TV nowadays isn't pretty. I see the stuff my brothers watch in passing, and Disney Channel is basically one romantic drama (minus a lot of the drama)/comedy after another, Cartoon Network has mostly shows that show almost nothing but stupid characters doing stupid things for stupid reasons in the most annoying way possible (and yet they categorize that as comedy?!), and most of the other channels seem equally unappetizing.

Anime, on the other hand, contains a lot of original, complex themes that carry the story along well. There's things like CLANNAD, which leaves little mysteries everywhere for the watcher to try and think through, or things like ef ~a tale of memories~ and ef ~a tale of melodies~, which are presented in such a way that it bores right into the center of the human mind, leading the watchers hanging as they wildly try to think through what's happening. It doesn't spoon-feed every complicated line to the watcher or avoid being confusing and enigmatic. Many of them are comparable to Dan Brown's books (The da Vinci Code, Angels and Demons) on the level that the loose ends don't get tied up until the very end, and when they do you still end up spending hours afterward turning the whole thing over in your mind.

Part of the problem with that, though, is that while those animes have a lot of fans, some of the mindless ones have legions more. When big-time anime companies in the US and other countries are looking for money, they turn to shows like that in order to appeal to as large an audience as possible. Yet some of the really well-thought, masterpeice-level animes are still on CR because those companies seem to be more concerned about gaining buyers than delivering the best material to the ones they already have. I mean, it makes sense from a purely (crud, I can't think of the word I'm looking for) point of view, but it still bothers me. Not that I'm not glad it's still here, but it bothers me when the really good titles aren't licensed because they won't make as much profit. It's like how shounen titles are being licensed left and right, but hardly any shoujos.


And what dignity was left in North American TV network, is torn apart by reality TV program like Jackass. What happened to good quality programs like the Junkyard War and Queer Eye For The Straight Guy(the hardcover book makes a good read), too much to ask for? I want to be inspired and challenged, not to be gratified by watching others doing worst than I am, while I ended up not gaining anything and the idiots of the world got their 5 seconds of fame on national TV programs.

However such is the reality of consumerism; you'll get the biggest payback by appealing toward the largest/lowest common denominator: insecurity, poverty, intellectually challenged, ignorance, immaturity, and shallowness.


zero-shinji wrote:


Rail_Man wrote:


zero-shinji wrote:

oo wow... president of russia..? there's gotta be something fishy.... when it comes to dealing with russia.. always got strings attach somewhere... damn that's just weird.......well as long as russia doesn't takes over japan i'm cool with it.... for now..


US got japans back


true but, gov' t tension between Japan wanting a army force to protect themselve is an issue, ever since WWII , Japan isn't allow to have an army nor air force for the matter. I don't think its a tension just cant find the exact words to put in. Probably an issue of some what. Politics is really not my strong suit, i'n just an amateur at it


The real issue here is how the Japanese government want to install a sense of nationalism among their people, the government is willing to revolt on item No.11 of the Proclamation Defining Terms for Japanese Surrender(http://www.ndl.go.jp/constitution/e/etc/c06.html):


Japan shall be permitted to maintain such industries as will sustain her economy and permit the exaction of just reparations in kind, but not those which would enable her to re-arm for war. To this end, access to, as distinguished from control of, raw materials shall be permitted. Eventual Japanese participation in world trade relations shall be permitted.


The Japanese Self-Defense Forces are funded by the Japanese government, and manned by the Japanese citizens. But the Self-Defense Forces only follow the U.N. order.


True and they can only fire back if a U.N official/officer says to do so. There are only a few station each platoons, as I heard(not sure if it's true). Also revolt against No. 11 PROC.? Just to gain citizens trust in their nation? They should reconsider if an issue that involves the Japanese Self-Defense Forces firing in combat even on orders of a U.N officer, might cause uneasiness with the U.S since it states Japan must demilitarize after WWII. you can see why its causes weariness that Japan as a armed force now but only for defense and under U.N orders..Japan got a lot of issues to carefully deal with....
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True and they can only fire back if a U.N official/officer says to do so. There are only a few station each platoons, as I heard(not sure if it's true). Also revolt against No. 11 PROC.? Just to gain citizens trust in their nation? They should reconsider if an issue that involves the Japanese Self-Defense Forces firing in combat even on orders of a U.N officer, might cause uneasiness with the U.S since it states Japan must demilitarize after WWII. you can see why its causes weariness that Japan as a armed force now but only for defense and under U.N orders..Japan got a lot of issues to carefully deal with....


I'm afraid the problem runs deeper than that. For you see, as a first world nation, Japan is utterly defenseless with its Self-Defense Force throughout history. Without the UN order, The Japanese Self-Defense Force(JSDF) cannot even conduct humanitarian mission during a time of crisis. The most recent example would be the 1995 Hyogo Ken Nanbu (Kobe) Earthquake(http://www.asianews.it/view.php/len/feed/rss/it/files/img/index.php?l=en&art=1818):


On the day of the Kobe quake, the first JSDF chopper took off an hour and 28 minutes after the first shock. When the Niigata quake struck, it took the JSDF seven minutes to have their first reconnaissance chopper fly over the affect area. In rapid succession, 2,700 soldiers in 1,000 army vehicles and 80 aircrafts and helicopters were on the ground engaged in rescue operations.


That delay was mainly due to the waiting time for an official UN order to arrive at the air force base, but since then the JSDF were given automatic authority to respond to earthquakes over a certain magnitude, which proved to be vital during the 2004 Niigata Earthquake.

But even so, the JSDF were useless for the North Korean abductions of Japanese victims and their families during the Cold War era(http://nettv.gov-online.go.jp/eng/prg/prg1786.html).
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DomFortress wrote:


zero-shinji wrote:



True and they can only fire back if a U.N official/officer says to do so. There are only a few station each platoons, as I heard(not sure if it's true). Also revolt against No. 11 PROC.? Just to gain citizens trust in their nation? They should reconsider if an issue that involves the Japanese Self-Defense Forces firing in combat even on orders of a U.N officer, might cause uneasiness with the U.S since it states Japan must demilitarize after WWII. you can see why its causes weariness that Japan as a armed force now but only for defense and under U.N orders..Japan got a lot of issues to carefully deal with....


I'm afraid the problem runs deeper than that. For you see, as a first world nation, Japan is utterly defenseless with its Self-Defense Force throughout history. Without the UN order, The Japanese Self-Defense Force(JSDF) cannot even conduct humanitarian mission during a time of crisis. The most recent example would be the 1995 Hyogo Ken Nanbu (Kobe) Earthquake(http://www.asianews.it/view.php/len/feed/rss/it/files/img/index.php?l=en&art=1818):


On the day of the Kobe quake, the first JSDF chopper took off an hour and 28 minutes after the first shock. When the Niigata quake struck, it took the JSDF seven minutes to have their first reconnaissance chopper fly over the affect area. In rapid succession, 2,700 soldiers in 1,000 army vehicles and 80 aircrafts and helicopters were on the ground engaged in rescue operations.


That delay was mainly due to the waiting time for an official UN order to arrive at the air force base, but since then the JSDF were given automatic authority to respond to earthquakes over a certain magnitude, which proved to be vital during the 2004 Niigata Earthquake.

But even so, the JSDF were useless for the North Korean abductions of Japanese victims and their families during the Cold War era(http://nettv.gov-online.go.jp/eng/prg/prg1786.html).


Ooo I heard that during one of my study - halls... I accidentally went into the wrong study hall. it was west wing not east.. but U.S should be more lenient, Plus the U.N should help the Japanese's JSDF in emergency procedure.. Basically the U.s allowed the Japan have their own defense force but do nothing upon helping them organize themselves upon a disaster. At least help Japan train their defense forces.. U.N can only do so much of as to order them around. Basically it leaves the JSDF in a bad position. Like with FEMA during the Katrina incident in the U.S. they didn't respond quick enough and most ignored the warnings. Also they provided trailers that had toxic chemicals that made people sicks.. It's the "particularly" same situation but different approach in my opinion, if you really looked at it closely. Usually ties with gov't s not getting involved but just letting the fishing swim with a broken fin... SO what you saying is after the Kobe quake U.N allowed JSDF to take full authority over rescue operations.... Common sense to actually let a defense force to be dispatch in a crisis. It all leads back to the government's political leaders who are too slow to come up with a common yet suffice decision in time... That's why I hate politics.... They are either bias, have no common sense, or the political people who serve that gov't are corrupt. I end my nonsense statement there.
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lkmjr wrote:


DomFortress wrote:


lkmjr wrote:

As Shannon Hale said, "Hearing and reading strange stories can help you believe it when strange things happen." I'm a bookworm and a fun fact collector, and even I'm having a hard time believing that one. I mean, it's awesome, but the Russian president meating up with the Japanese prime minister to discuss DORAEMON?!

And I agree with Miyazaki. That prime minister's gotta stop trying to convince important politicians to read manga. As Nina put it....




Agree, dumb down the population is a poor concept in politics, for we had the Chinese Cultural Revolution(http://library.thinkquest.org/26469/cultural-revolution/) to prove that. Anime subculture still need a lot of reforming and maturing in its social, industrial, economical, and spiritual aspects before it can be considered as a mainstream culture. And to do that, its intellectual value needs to be protected legally through legitimacy.


Good point. Another thing about anime, though, that makes it so popular world wide is that it's far less dumbed-down than many other forms of entertainment. I mean, there are some mindless animes and animes meant for little kids that have to be easily understood by the audience, but others you really have to think your way around. American TV nowadays isn't pretty. I see the stuff my brothers watch in passing, and Disney Channel is basically one romantic drama (minus a lot of the drama)/comedy after another, Cartoon Network has mostly shows that show almost nothing but stupid characters doing stupid things for stupid reasons in the most annoying way possible (and yet they categorize that as comedy?!), and most of the other channels seem equally unappetizing.

Anime, on the other hand, contains a lot of original, complex themes that carry the story along well. There's things like CLANNAD, which leaves little mysteries everywhere for the watcher to try and think through, or things like ef ~a tale of memories~ and ef ~a tale of melodies~, which are presented in such a way that it bores right into the center of the human mind, leading the watchers hanging as they wildly try to think through what's happening. It doesn't spoon-feed every complicated line to the watcher or avoid being confusing and enigmatic. Many of them are comparable to Dan Brown's books (The da Vinci Code, Angels and Demons) on the level that the loose ends don't get tied up until the very end, and when they do you still end up spending hours afterward turning the whole thing over in your mind.

Part of the problem with that, though, is that while those animes have a lot of fans, some of the mindless ones have legions more. When big-time anime companies in the US and other countries are looking for money, they turn to shows like that in order to appeal to as large an audience as possible. Yet some of the really well-thought, masterpeice-level animes are still on CR because those companies seem to be more concerned about gaining buyers than delivering the best material to the ones they already have. I mean, it makes sense from a purely (crud, I can't think of the word I'm looking for) point of view, but it still bothers me. Not that I'm not glad it's still here, but it bothers me when the really good titles aren't licensed because they won't make as much profit. It's like how shounen titles are being licensed left and right, but hardly any shoujos.




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