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[REAL] Jack the Ripper... (episode 4, 5,6. )
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halibel wrote:

Mary Jane Kelly was also in the anime right?


yes... in kuroshitsuji the last victim of madam red - and is also the last victim of Jack the Ripper - well reported to be the last victim...
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choco_tanny wrote:

this gave me the creeps!
geez!
goosebumps...
i read all that's written up there...and it made my heart beat faster!


thanks so much - and also let's thanks the person who started the post. ^^ hehehe... have u seen mary jane kelly's report? when i read that the first time i couldn't eat and think of the poor woman...

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its really interesting, but i really wanna noe who is jack the ripper and y he kill all those prostitutes . My sister says who ever he is , that "guy" must be crazy. After i watched Kursohitsuji episode 5 & 6 , theres this show called Is it real? shows about Jack the Ripper. i was really shocked because i didnt noe that kind of thing actually exist.
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LenaIeeXAllen wrote:

its really interesting, but i really wanna noe who is jack the ripper and y he kill all those prostitutes . My sister says who ever he is , that "guy" must be crazy. After i watched Kursohitsuji episode 5 & 6 , theres this show called Is it real? shows about Jack the Ripper. i was really shocked because i didnt noe that kind of thing actually exist.


he did exist... and actually i believe his not crazy - more like he have this deep knowledge in medicine - and he experiments on those ladies... why? hmm... prostitutes are the faster way to gain a body - and then - they wont be missed or the murder be put on trial because no families will claim... i think - jack the ripper was not a SINGLE person rather A SOCIETY of the CULT/ SCIENCE, MEDICINE Professionals... the history did says that the early doctors used dead people to study - but is it really? that time... i think those women are the guinea pigs.... T___T sad yes....

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Jack the RIPPER SUSPECTS (from wikipedia)

Many suspects have been proposed as the unidentified serial killer or killers given the alias Jack the Ripper, responsible for a series of murders that took place in London, England, during 1888 (and perhaps other years). Many theories have been advanced, but none have been found to be widely persuasive by experts, and some can hardly be taken seriously at all.

Montague John Druitt (15 August 1857–1 December 1888)
Druitt was born in Wimborne Minster, Dorset, England, the son of a prominent local physician. He was educated at Winchester College and New College Oxford. He graduated from Oxford in 1880 and two years later was admitted to the Inner Temple and called to the bar in 1885. He practised as a barrister and a special pleader until his death. He was also employed as an assistant schoolmaster at George Valentine's boarding school, 9 Eliot Place, Blackheath from 1881 until he was dismissed shortly before his death in 1888.

His body was found floating in the River Thames off Thorneycroft's torpedo works near Chiswick on 31 December 1888. Medical examination suggested that his body was kept at the bottom of the river for several weeks by stones placed in his pockets. The coroner's jury concluded that he committed suicide by drowning "whilst of unsound mind." His mother suffered from depression and died in an asylum in 1890.

His disappearance and death shortly after the fifth and last canonical murder (which took place on 9 November 1888) and alleged "private information" led some investigators to predict correctly that there would be no more of these murders. More recently some have expressed doubts whether he committed suicide or was murdered. Recent research shows that between the Kelly murder and his death, he had been involved as legal representation in a court case. In Melville Macnaghten's famous memorandum, from which modern suspicion about Druitt originated, the barrister is incorrectly described as a doctor and his age is incorrectly given as 41 (he was 31 at the time of his death). Furthermore, Inspector Frederick Abberline dismissed Druitt as a serious suspect. However, the writer Daniel Farson, author of the book "Jack the Ripper" (1972), regarded Druit as the most probable of the suspects.

Recent research has established that Druitt, despite the interest he had shown in debating at Winchester, was blackballed by the Oxford Union, the most famous debating society in the world, when he entered Oxford in the autumn of 1876, which is a strong indication that Druitt was already displaying signs of the "sexual insanity" ascribed to him by Melville Macnaghten in his memorandum. This would suggest that Druitt's decision to take up a teaching post at a boys' boarding school on leaving Oxford was a manifestation of that "sexual insanity" and that it was this matter which led to his dismissal from the school in late 1888. Such an interpretation explains why Macnaghten, in describing Druitt's occupation, used the vague expression "said to be a doctor". Macnaghten simply would not have wanted to record, even in a confidential police file, that a man like Druitt, whom he also suspected of being Jack the Ripper, had been a teacher of young boys.

George Chapman-Seweryn Kłosowski
Seweryn Antonowicz Kłosowski (alias George Chapman – no relation to victim Annie Chapman) (14 December 1865-7 April 1903)

He was born Seweryn Kłosowski in Poland, but came to the United Kingdom sometime between 1887 and 1888, later (c. 1893/94) assuming the name of Chapman. Without question a duplicitous and cold character who undertook several aliases, he was guilty of successively poisoning three of his wives, crimes for which he was hanged in 1903. He lived in Whitechapel, London, at the time of the killings where he had been working as a barber since arriving in England. He was at one time Abberline's favoured suspect and is considered by a number of commentators to be a likely suspect. Chapman is supposed by some to have had the medical skills necessary to commit the mutilations (although the level of skill evidenced by the Ripper is a matter of debate, and divided medical opinions at the time). However, the main argument against him is the fact that he murdered his three wives with poison, and it is uncommon (though not unheard of) for a serial killer to make such a drastic change in modus operandi.

Aaron Kosminski (1865-1919)
A member of London's Polish Jewish population, Aaron Kosminski was a hairdresser, born in Kłodawa. He was certified insane and admitted to Colney Hatch Lunatic Asylum in February 1891. He was named as a suspect in Chief Constable Melville Macnaghten's memoranda, which stated that there were strong reasons for suspecting him, that he "had a great hatred of women, with strong homicidal tendencies", and that he strongly resembled "the man seen by a City PC" near Mitre Square. This is the only mention of any such sighting, and it has been suggested by some authors that Macnaghten really meant the City Police witness Joseph Lawende, though others suggest alternative explanations.

Written comments by former Assistant Commissioner Sir Robert Anderson and former Chief Inspector Donald Swanson claimed that the Ripper had been identified by the "only person who had a good view of the murderer", though some authors express skepticism that this identification ever happened, for a variety of reasons. Anderson and Swanson further stated that no prosecution was possible because the witness was not willing to offer testimony against a fellow Jew. In marginalia in his copy of Anderson's memoirs, Swanson said that this man was "Kosminski", adding that he had been watched at his brother's home in Whitechapel by the City police, that he was taken to the asylum with his hands tied behind his back, and that he died shortly after. This last detail is quite untrue of Aaron Kosminski, who lived until 1919. His insanity took the form of auditory hallucinations, a paranoid fear of being fed by other people, and a refusal to wash or bathe.

Aaron Kosminski meets some of the criteria in the general profile of serial killers as outlined by Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) criminal profiler John Douglas and Robert Ressler. He also lived close to the sites of the murders. Each victim was murdered within a mile from each other, and Kosminski lived a mile from each victim[citation needed] (though other suspects meet this criterion as well). He was described as harmless in the asylum, although he had once brandished a chair at asylum attendants. He was previously reputed to have threatened his sister with a knife. These two incidents are the only known indications of violent behaviour. The copy of Anderson's The Lighter Side Of My Official Life containing the handwritten notes by Swanson was donated to Scotland Yard's Crime Museum in 2006.

Michael Ostrog (1833-1904?)
Michael Ostrog was a Russian-born, professional con man. He used numerous aliases and disguises. He was mentioned as a suspect by Macnaghten, who joined the case in 1889, the year after the "canonical five" victims were killed. Researchers have failed to find evidence that he committed crimes any more serious than fraud and theft. Research by author Philip Sugden discovered prison records showing that Ostrog was jailed for petty offences in France during the Ripper murders. Ostrog is last mentioned alive in 1904, though his date of death is unknown.

John Pizer (1850-1897)
Pizer was a Polish Jew who worked as a bootmaker in Whitechapel. After the first two Ripper murders, Police Sergeant William Thick brought Pizer in for questioning. Thick apparently believed that Pizer was a man known as "Leather Apron", a local man who was notorious for committing minor assaults on prostitutes. In the early days of the Whitechapel murders many locals suspected that "Leather Apron" was the killer. He was cleared of any suspicion when it turned out that at the time of one of the murders he had been talking with a police officer as they watched a spectacular fire on the London Docks. Pizer claimed that Thick had known him for years, and implied that his arrest was based on animosity and not evidence.

"Dr" Francis Tumblety (c. 1830-1903)
Seemingly uneducated or self-educated Irish-American raised from an infant in Rochester, New York, where he ostensibly trained as a homeopathic physician at Hahneman Hospital (now Highland Hospital). He earned a small fortune posing as a quack "Indian Herb" doctor throughout the United States and Canada and occasionally travelling across Europe as well. He was commonly perceived as a misogynist and was connected to the deaths of some of his patients and charged by the authorities in Canada but skipped the country. It is uncertain if these deaths were deliberate or not. He was also charged with supplying herbs to procure an illegal abortion. At times he used the alias "J.H. Blackburn". He gained a reputation for his eccentric, ostentatious clothes, which were frequently of a military nature. In 1864 he was operative in Brooklyn, New York, where his assistant was David E. Herold, later hanged as an accomplice in the assassination of Abraham Lincoln. Tumblety was arrested on 6 May 1865 in St. Louis, Missouri, and incarcerated in the Old Capitol Prison, Washington, for complicity in the Lincoln assassination, but released upon the plea of mistaken identity.

Tumblety was in England in 1888 and had visited the country on other occasions; during one such earlier trip he became closely acquainted with Victorian writer Thomas Henry Hall Caine, with whom it was suggested he had an affair and from whom he tried to borrow money as his finances had become precarious. He claimed to have treated many famous English patients, including Charles Dickens, for a variety of illnesses. He was arrested on 7 November 1888, on charges of "gross indecency", apparently for engaging in homosexuality. Awaiting trial, he instead fled the country for France on 24 November 1888, and thence to the United States. It has been suggested that he was released on police bail before the final canonical murder of Mary Jane Kelly (on 9 November). Notorious in the United States for his scams, including selling forged Union military discharge papers during the American Civil War and impersonating an army officer, news of his arrest led some to suggest he was the Ripper.

After the initial interest in Tumblety in 1888, he was mentioned as having been a Ripper suspect by former Detective Chief Inspector John George Littlechild of the Metropolitan Police in a letter to journalist and author, George R. Sims dated 23 September 1913. Claims that Scotland Yard sent an officer to the United States in 1888 to try to bring Tumblety back in connection with the crimes have been disputed by recent research, although there are anecdotal American newspaper reports to suggest that this was the case. One objection to Tumblety's viability as a suspect lies with his alleged homosexuality, since in general male homosexual serial killers kill other men.

He died in a St Louis hospital in 1903, possibly of syphilis, and is buried in Rochester, New York.
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Other contemporary opinions

Various other people were named at the time as potentially being guilty of the Whitechapel murders by journalists and others. Some of the most notable are:

William Henry Bury (25 May 1859-24 April 1889)
Having recently relocated to Scotland from London, he strangled his wife Ellen Elliot, a former prostitute, on 5 February 1889, inflicted deep wounds to her abdomen after she was dead and "packed" her into a wooden box, which he subsequently used as a table to play dominoes on. She remained in the box and Bury went about his normal life for almost a week before reporting the murder to the local police on 10 February. Some people believe the wounds were similar to ones inflicted upon Martha Tabram and Mary Ann Nichols. In fact, Bury claimed the reason he inflicted these wounds and packed her in the wooden box was because he was frightened that people would think he was Jack the Ripper. Bury was hanged soon afterwards in Dundee, having by then made a full confession to his wife's murder.

Dr Thomas Neill Cream (May 1850-15 November 1892)
Cream, a doctor secretly specialising in abortions. Born in Scotland, educated in London, active in Canada and later in Chicago, Illinois. In 1881 he was found to be responsible for fatally poisoning several of his patients of both sexes. Originally there was no suspicion of murder in these cases, but Cream himself demanded an examination of the bodies, apparently an attempt to draw attention to himself. Imprisoned in the Illinois State Penitentiary in Joliet, Illinois, he was released on 31 July 1891, on good behaviour. Moving to London, he resumed killing and was soon arrested. He was hanged on 15 November 1892. According to some sources, his last words were reported as being "I am Jack...", interpreted to mean Jack the Ripper, but the words were muffled by a hood. Experts note that this whole incident may be nothing more than a story invented at a later date, as police officials who attended the execution made no mention of this alleged interrupted confession. He was still imprisoned at the time of the Ripper murders, but some authors have suggested that he could have bribed officials and left the prison before his official release, or that he left a look-alike to serve the prison term in his place. Neither notion is seen as very likely by most authorities.

Frederick Bailey Deeming (30 July 1842-23 May 1892)
Deeming was a sailor living at the time in Sydney, Australia, with his wife and four children. A British subject, Deeming was brought to court in England on 15 December 1887, on charges of bankruptcy. Sentenced to fourteen days' imprisonment, he was apparently released on 29 December 1887, and promptly fled with his family to Cape Town, South Africa to escape debt collectors. Soon after arrival he was brought to the attention of the local police on charges of fraud. He sent his family to England and headed to recently founded Johannesburg, disappearing for a time from historical record. There is no reliable account of his activities or his whereabouts between March 1888 and October 1889 (covering the period of the murders). He resurfaced in Kingston upon Hull back in England, where he was known by the name of Harry Lawson, one of his many aliases. Well into a career as a professional con man, he apparently attempted to reconcile with his estranged wife. They moved together with their children to a rented house in Rainhill in July 1891. The reconciliation ended on 11 August 1891, when he cut his wife and children's throats as they slept. Having introduced himself to the locals as a bachelor and his family as his visiting sister and nephews, it proved easy to explain their absence. He wooed Emily Mathers, his landlord's daughter, and they married on 22 September 1891. The newlyweds left by ship from Southampton, on 2 November 1891, and arrived in Victoria (Australia) on 15 December 1891. He murdered Emily nine days later, buried her under their rented house, and left. Her body was soon found, resulting in a local investigation and the discovery of the other bodies in England. This led to his arrest on 11 March 1892, and his trial and subsequent execution by hanging. The Australian public was convinced he was the Ripper. He is said to have been an acquaintance of victim Catherine Eddowes and to have maintained correspondence with her, but this allegation remains unproven.

Carl Feigenbaum
Carl Feigenbaum was arrested in 1894 in New York for cutting a woman's throat. After his execution his lawyer claimed that Feigenbaum had admitted to having a hatred of women and a desire to kill and mutilate them. The lawyer further stated that he believed Feigenbaum was Jack the Ripper. This theory gained some press coverage at the time but was disputed by the lawyer's partner, and the idea was not pursued for more than a century. Author Trevor Marriott, a former British police murder squad detective, argues in the second edition of his book, Jack The Ripper - The 21st Century Investigation, that Feigenbaum was in Whitechapel at the time of the Ripper murders and also that he was responsible for other murders in the United States and Germany between 1891 and 1894.

Robert Donston Stephenson (aka Roslyn D'Onston) (20 April 1841-9 October 1916)
A journalist and writer known to be interested in the occult and black magic. He arrived as a patient at the London Hospital in Whitechapel shortly before the murders started, and left shortly after they ceased. He is the author of a newspaper article and letter to the police concerning the case. His strange manner and interest in the crimes resulted in an amateur detective reporting him to Scotland Yard. Two days later he visited them himself to report his own suspect, a Dr Morgan Davies. Subsequently he fell under the suspicion of newspaper editor William Thomas Stead, the writer Mabel Collins and her friend Baroness Vittoria Cremers. Author and historian Melvin Harris argued in his two most recent books that Donston was a leading suspect.

Researcher Howard Brown argues that Stephenson is not a viable Ripper suspect because Stephenson had been staying within the Currie Ward within the London Hospital from 26 July 1888 to at least 16 October of the same year. Four of the so-called Macnaghten Five victims were killed prior to 16 October 1888.

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Opinions by later authors

Joseph Barnett (1858-1926)
A one-time fish porter, he was victim Mary Jane Kelly's lover from 8 April 1887, to 30 October 1888, when they quarreled and separated. He visited her daily afterwards, reportedly trying to reconcile. There are suspicions that he was denied. He was proposed as a suspect for her murder as a scorned lover, although some people attribute the other murders to him as well. His accounts about what Kelly is said to have told him about her life constitute most of what is known of her. The validity of both her statements and his reports have been questioned.

Lewis Carroll (pen name of Charles Lutwidge Dodgson) (27 January 1832-14 January 1898)
Carroll, author of Alice's Adventures in Wonderland and Through the Looking-Glass, was named as a suspect based upon anagrams author Richard Wallace devised for his book Jack the Ripper, Light-Hearted Friend, which is not generally taken seriously by other scholars.

David Cohen (1865-1889)
A Polish Jew whose incarceration at Colney Hatch asylum roughly coincided with the end of the murders. Described as violently antisocial, the poor East End local has been suggested as a suspect by author and Ripperologist Martin Fido in his book The Crimes, Detection and Death of Jack the Ripper (1987). Fido claims that the name 'David Cohen' was used at the time to refer to immigrant Jews who either could not be positively identified or whose names were too difficult for police to spell, in the same fashion that 'John Doe' is used in the United States today. This has been disputed by other authors. Fido speculated that Cohen's true identity was Nathan Kaminsky, a bootmaker living in Whitechapel who had been treated at one time for syphilis and who allegedly vanished at the same time that Cohen was admitted. Fido and others believe that police officials confused the name Kaminsky with Kosminski, resulting in the wrong man coming under suspicion (see Aaron Kosminski above). Cohen exhibited violent, destructive tendencies while at the asylum, and had to be restrained. He died at the asylum in October 1889. In his book The Cases That Haunt Us, former FBI criminal profiler John Douglas, has asserted that behavioural clues gathered from the murders as well as linguistic hints from the "From Hell" letter (the only one he considers to be authentic) all point to Cohen, "or someone very much like him."

Thomas Hayne Cutbush (1864-1903)
In November 2008, a newspaper reported that files released from Broadmoor high security hospital indicate that Thomas Hayne Cutbush may have been responsible for the murders, which ceased from the time of his detention. Cutbush was identified at the time as a leading suspect; however he was sent to Lambeth Infirmary in 1891 suffering delusions thought to have been caused by syphilis. After stabbing one woman and attempting to stab a second he was pronounced insane and committed to Broadmoor that same year, where he remained until his death in 1903. The paper also reports that Cutbush was the nephew of a Scotland Yard superintendent, and speculates that this may have led to a cover-up of the killer's identity.

Sir William Withey Gull (31 December 1816-29 January 1890)
Gull was physician-in-ordinary to Queen Victoria. He was named as the Ripper as part of the evolution of the widely discredited masonic/royal conspiracy theory. Thanks to the popularity of this theory among fiction writers and for its dramatic nature, Gull shows up as the Ripper in a number of books and films (including a 1988 TV film Jack the Ripper starring Michael Caine and the graphic novel From Hell written by Alan Moore).

George Hutchinson
George Hutchinson, labourer. On 12 November 1888, he went to the London police to make a statement claiming that he spent a long amount of time on 9 November 1888, watching the room that Mary Jane Kelly lived in after he saw her with a man of conspicuous appearance. He gave a very detailed description of a suspect despite the darkness of that night. The accuracy of Hutchinson's statement was later disputed among the senior police of the time. Inspector Frederick Abberline, after interviewing Hutchinson, believed that Hutchinson's account was truthful. However, another police official later claimed that the only witness who got a good look at the killer was Jewish. Hutchinson was not a Jew, and thus not that witness. Some modern scholars have suggested that Hutchinson was the Ripper himself, trying to confuse the police with a false description.

James Kelly (no known relation to the Ripper victim Mary Kelly) (20 April 1860-17 September 1929)
Having murdered his wife in 1883 by stabbing her in the neck, he was convicted of the crime. Considered insane, he was transferred to a mental asylum, from which he escaped in early 1888. The police searched for him unsuccessfully during the period of the murders, but he had apparently disappeared with no trace. He unexpectedly turned himself back in to officials in 1927, and died two years later, presumably of natural causes. His whereabouts and activities at the time of the murders remain unknown.

James Maybrick (24 October 1838-11 May 1889)
Maybrick was a Liverpool cotton merchant. His wife Florence was a much younger American related to a wealthy Alabama banking family. She was convicted of poisoning him with arsenic in a trial that was in its time sensational, primarily because of the extreme bias of the judge's summation and the omission of important evidence. A diary purportedly by James Maybrick, published in the 1990s, contains a confession to the Ripper murders. This proved to be an instant best-seller. However, the diary is widely considered a hoax and has been discredited by many historians who have also pointed to factual errors in relation to some of the crimes. Document expert Kenneth Rendell also pronounced the diary a fake. In his analysis, he was struck that the handwriting style seemed more twentieth century than Victorian. He also noted factual contradictions and handwriting inconsistencies. No evidence to connect Maybrick as a suspect besides the "diary" exists. Additionally, its discovery in 1991 was the first time anyone had ever seen it. In 1995 the apparent 'finder' of the diary, Michael Barrett, confessed to actually being the author on two separate occasions. However, in spite of this fact, some still claim that nobody has yet been able to fully prove that it is a forgery.

Alexander Pedachenko (alleged dates 1857-1908)
In his 1923 memoirs, Things I Know about Kings, Celebrities and Crooks, William Le Queux claimed to have seen a manuscript in French written by Rasputin stating that Jack the Ripper was an insane Russian doctor named Alexander Pedachenko, an agent of the Okhrana (the Secret Police of Imperial Russia), whose aim in committing the murders was to confuse Scotland Yard. However, there is no confirmed evidence that Pedachenko ever existed, and many parts of his claims fall apart when examined closely.

Walter Richard Sickert (31 May 1860-22 January 1942)
Sickert, a German-born artist of Dutch and Danish ancestry, was first mentioned as a possible Ripper suspect as part of one of the many conspiracy theories and then named as the sole Ripper by author Jean Overton Fuller. The crime novelist Patricia Cornwell later also claimed in her book Portrait of a Killer that Sickert was the Ripper, based largely on what she sees as misogyny in his art and her belief that the taunting letters claiming to be from the killer were written by him. Sickert is not considered a serious suspect by most who study the case, and strong evidence shows he was in France at the time of most of the Ripper murders.

Joseph Silver
In 2007 South African historian Charles van Onselen claimed, in the book The Fox and The Flies: The World of Joseph Silver, Racketeer and Psychopath, that Joseph Silver, also known as Joseph Lis, a Polish Jew, was Jack the Ripper.[15]Critics note, among other things, that van Onselen provides no evidence that Silver was ever in London during the time of the murders, and that the accusation is based entirely upon speculation. Van Onselen has responded by saying that the number of circumstances involved should make Silver a suspect.

James Kenneth Stephen (25 February 1859-3 February 1892)
Stephen was a poet and tutor to Prince Albert Victor, Duke of Clarence and Avondale with whom it is suggested he had a close relationship and was devastated at his death in 1892. Perceived as a misogynist, he suffered from serious physical and mental problems after an accident during the winter of 1886-1887. His poems are seen as having a sense of morbidity in them. As an example: -

...I do not want to see that girl again:
I did not like her: and I should not mind
If she were done away with, killed, or ploughed.
She did not seem to serve a useful end:
And certainly she was not beautiful.


Stephen was brought forward as a suspect by Michael Harrison, mainly because of his connection to Prince Albert Victor, The Duke of Clarence and Avondale.

Francis Thompson
Francis Thompson (18 December 1859-13 November 1907) Perceived as devoted to Catholicism, he was a member of the Aesthetic movement and influenced the young J.R.R. Tolkien, who purchased the Works of Francis Thompson in 1913-14. In 1889 Thompson wrote the short story "Finis Coronat Opus" (Latin: "The End Crowns the Work"). It features a young poet sacrificing women to pagan gods, seeking hell's inspiration for his poetry in order to gain the fame he desires. Thompson is alternatively seen as a religious fanatic or a madman committing the actions described in his story. In 1877 Thompson failed the priesthood and in the Autumn 1878 he entered his name on the Manchester Royal Infirmary register. The infirmary, in which he studied for the next six years as a surgeon, required that its students have a strong physique for the gruelling workload. The study of anatomy, with dissection classes, was a major part of study from the first term. Between 1885 and 1888 Thompson spent the majority of his time homeless, living in the Docks area south of Whitechapel. Thompson tried a number of occupations. As well as a surgeon and a priest, Thompson tried being a soldier, but was dismissed for failing in drill. He also worked in a medical factory. This may have been where, apart from his years as a surgeon, Thompson procured the dissecting scalpel which he claimed to have possessed when he wrote to the editor of the ‘Merry England’ in January 1889 of his need to swap to a razor for shaving.

Prince Albert Victor
Prince Albert Victor, Duke of Clarence and Avondale (1864-14 January 1892) As a result of his involvement in several scandals, and questions about his sanity, the Duke of Clarence has been named in a number of books as either the killer, or the person whom others killed for, as part of a cover up for his alleged misdeeds. These theories are discounted by many historians and by most Ripperologists.

Sir John Williams
Sir John Williams, a friend of Queen Victoria and obstetrician to her daughter Princess Beatrice, was accused of the Ripper crimes in a 2005 book, Uncle Jack, written by one of the surgeon's descendants, Tony Williams, and co-authored by Humphrey Price. The authors claim that the victims knew the doctor personally and that they were killed and mutilated in an attempt to research the causes of infertility. The book also claims that a badly blunted surgical knife, which belonged to Sir John Williams, was the murder weapon. Jennifer Pegg demonstrated in two articles that the version of the notebook entry used in Uncle Jack to show that Sir John Williams had met Ripper victim Mary Ann Nichols had been altered for print and did not match the original document. She further demonstrated that much of the other research in the book arguing for a link between Sir John Williams and the Ripper crimes was flawed.
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Further theories about the Ripper

Sir Arthur Conan Doyle and William Stewart advanced theories involving a female murderer dubbed "Jill the Ripper." Supporters of this theory believe that the murderer worked, or posed, as a midwife. She could be seen with bloody clothes without attracting unwanted attention and suspicion and would be more easily trusted by the victims than a man.
A suspect suggested as fitting this profile is Mary Pearcey, who in October 1890, killed her lover's wife and child, though there is no indication she was ever a midwife. E. J. Wagner, in The Science of Sherlock Holmes, offers in passing another possible suspect, Constance Kent, who had served 20 years for the murder of her younger brother at the age of sixteen.

It is also possible the Ripper was an unknown Whitechapel resident. Serial killers, like Kansas' BTK killer, Ted Bundy, the Green River Killer, etc., are typically deft at "hiding in plain sight", appearing normal and blending into the background. The Ripper's apparent ability to stalk, kill, and then immediately disappear suggests an intimate knowledge of the Whitechapel neighborhood. This knowledge likely included backalleys, hiding places, and police patrol schedules.

Whitechapel possessed several small slaughterhouses and numerous butcher shops. In an age before reliable refrigeration, meatcutters and butchers had little time to slaughter animals and cut meat before spoilage occurred. Also, poorly cut steaks or roasts were harder to sell at top rates. As a result, meatcutters had to work quickly and precisely. This may explain the "surgical" appearance of Jack the Ripper's disembowelments. Local butchers and meatcutters would intimately know Whitechapel's streets and back alleys, to deliver product to customers before spoilage occurred.

There are also several theories suggesting that "Jack the Ripper" was actually more than one killer. Some authors (for example Stephen Knight) argue that this is the explanation for why police could not pinpoint a single suspect and how the murders on 30 September could happen so closely timed together.
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The Whitechapel murders (1888-91)

The Whitechapel murders (1888-91) were a series of eleven unsolved brutal murders of women committed in Whitechapel, in the East End of London between 3 April 1888 and 13 February 1891. At various points all of them have been ascribed to the notorious, but elusive, individual known as Jack the Ripper. Most, if not all, of the victims were prostitutes. Their names were Emma Elizabeth Smith, Martha Tabram, Mary Ann Nichols, Annie Chapman, Elizabeth Stride, Catherine Eddowes, Mary Jane Kelly, Rose Mylett, Alice McKenzie, and Frances Coles. There was also an unidentified woman. The investigations were conducted by the Metropolitan Police, joined after 30 September by the City Police. Private organisations, such as the Whitechapel Vigilance Committee, were also involved in the search for the killer.

Whitechapel 1888-91
At this period Whitechapel was reckoned as the most notorious criminal rookery in London. Assistant Commissioner of the CID Sir Robert Anderson, in an interview with an American journalist of 4 November 1889 recommended it (plus the Black Museum) as London's prime criminal "show place" 'for those who take an interest in the dangerous classes'. Robbery and violence were commonplace in a district characterised by extreme poverty, sub-standard housing, homelessness, drunkenness and endemic prostitution. These factors were focused in the institution of the common lodging-house, which provided cheap communal lodgings for the desperate and the destitute, amongst whom the Whitechapel murder victims were numbered. All the identified victims resided at the heart of the rookery in Spitalfields, including three in George Street, two in Dorset Street and two in Flower and Dean Street.

THE VICTIMS...

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LETTERS.......

Dear Boss letter

The "Dear Boss" letter was a message allegedly written by the notorious Victorian serial killer known as Jack the Ripper. It was postmarked and received on 27 September 1888, by the Central News Agency of London. It was forwarded to Scotland Yard on 29 September.

The message, like most alleged Ripper letters that followed, contains a number of spelling and punctuation errors. It reads:

Dear Boss,

I keep on hearing the police have caught me but they wont fix me just yet. I have laughed when they look so clever and talk about being on the right track. That joke about Leather Apron gave me real fits. I am down on whores and I shant quit ripping them till I do get buckled. Grand work the last job was. I gave the lady no time to squeal. How can they catch me now. I love my work and want to start again. You will soon hear of me with my funny little games. I saved some of the proper red stuff in a ginger beer bottle over the last job to write with but it went thick like glue and I cant use it. Red ink is fit enough I hope ha. ha. The next job I do I shall clip the ladys ears off and send to the police officers just for jolly wouldn't you. Keep this letter back till I do a bit more work, then give it out straight. My knife's so nice and sharp I want to get to work right away if I get a chance. Good Luck. Yours truly
Jack the Ripper

Dont mind me giving the trade name

PS Wasnt good enough to post this before I got all the red ink off my hands curse it No luck yet. They say I'm a doctor now. ha ha


Initially this letter was considered to be just one of many hoaxes, but when the body of Catherine Eddowes was found with one earlobe severed on 30 September, the writer's promise to "clip the ladys ears off" attracted attention. The Metropolitan Police published handbills with facsimiles of it and the Saucy Jack postcard (which had referred to the earlier message and was received before the first became public knowledge) hoping someone would recognise the handwriting, but nothing came of this effort. Many newspapers also reprinted the text in whole or in part. These two messages gained worldwide notoriety after their publication. It was the first time the "Jack the Ripper" name had been used to refer to the killer, and the term captured the imagination of the public. Soon hundreds of other letters claiming to be from "Jack the Ripper" were received, most copying key phrases from these letters.







After the murders, police officials stated that they believed this letter and the postcard were hoaxes by a local journalist. These suspicions were not well publicized, and the idea that the killer had sent messages taunting the police became one of the enduring legends of the Ripper case. Modern scholars are divided on which, if any, of the letters should be considered genuine, but the "Dear Boss" letter is one of three named most frequently as potentially having been written by the killer. A number of authors try to advance their theories by comparing handwriting samples of their suspects to the writing found in this letter.

Like many items related to the Ripper case, the "Dear Boss" letter disappeared from the police files not long after the investigation ended. Most people believe it was kept as a souvenir by one of the investigating officers. It was returned anonymously to the Metropolitan Police in 1988, presumably by family members of the officer who had originally taken it.

Saucy Jacky postcard

The "Saucy Jacky" postcard is the name of a message received in 1888, which claims to have been written by the serial killer now known as Jack the Ripper. Because so many hoax letters were received by Scotland Yard, the press and others, it is not known definitively if this was an authentic letter written by the Whitechapel killer. It did contain information that was compelling enough to lead investigators to publish a facsimile of the communication in hopes that someone might recognize the handwriting.

The text of the postcard reads:

“ I was not codding [sic] dear old Boss when I gave you the tip, you'll hear about Saucy Jacky's work tomorrow double event this time number one squealed a bit couldn't finish straight off. Had not got time to get ears off for police thanks for keeping last letter back till I got to work again.

Jack the Ripper”






Postmarked and received on 1 October 1888, the postcard mentions that two victims were killed very close to one another: "double event this time". Elizabeth Stride and Catherine Eddowes were both killed in the early morning of 30 September, and part of Eddowes' ear was found detached at the crime scene as a result of facial mutilations that the killer performed. Some authors have argued that the letter was mailed before the murders were publicised, making it unlikely that a hoaxer would have such knowledge of the crime; however, the letter was postmarked more than 24 hours after the killings took place, long after many details were known by journalists and residents of the area. Police officials later claimed to have identified a specific journalist as the author of this message and the earlier "Dear Boss" letter.

Sometime during the years after the Ripper murders, the Saucy Jacky postcard disappeared from the police files. It is generally believed that, like many other items related to the case, someone removed it to keep as a souvenir of this famous series of crimes. Only a facsimile version remains in the files. Although the "Dear Boss" letter was recovered in 1988, the "Saucy Jacky" postcard is still missing.

From Hell letter

The "From Hell" letter (or the "Lusk letter") is the name given to a letter mailed in 1888 by a man who claimed to be the killer known as Jack the Ripper.

Though many letters claiming to be from the killer were mailed in the time of the Ripper murders, the "From Hell" letter is widely considered by many Ripper researchers as one of the few possibly authentic writings received from the serial killer. It is perhaps noteworthy that its author chose not to sign it with the pseudonym, "Jack the Ripper", distinguishing it from the earlier Dear Boss letter, the Saucy Jack postcard, and their imitators. The "From Hell" letter is also written at a much lower literacy level than the other two.

Postmarked on 15 October 1888, the letter was received by George Lusk, then head of the Whitechapel Vigilance Committee, the following day.

The reason this letter stands out more than any other is that it was delivered with a small box containing half of what doctors later determined was a human kidney, preserved in ethanol. One of Catherine Eddowes' kidneys had been removed by the killer. Medical opinion at the time was that the organ could have been acquired by medical students and sent with the letter as part of a hoax.

The text of the letter reads:

" From hell.

Mr Lusk,
Sor
I send you half the Kidne I took from one women prasarved it for you tother piece I fried and ate it was very nise. I may send you the bloody knif that took it out if you only wate a whil longer

signed
Catch me when you can Mishter Lusk"




The original letter, as well as the kidney that accompanied it, have subsequently been lost along with other items that were originally contained within the Ripper police files. It is possible that one or both was kept by an official as a souvenir of the case. The image shown here is from a photograph taken before the loss of the letter.
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Cross-7 wrote:

i guess no one is interested in it. becos its too long?

damn... T_T


No it was very interesting actually XD it's so cool how the story in the manga actually have some relevance to real life LOL
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WOW so many suspects = = I guess for a big case like this that's not surprise >.< y do ppl think it's done by one person?? can one person really do all that O.o I guess that's a stupid question = = but what did jack the ripper achieve by doing all this??? O.o
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The First Lady

When Charles Cross walked through Whitechapel's Buck's Row just before four in the morning Friday, August 31, 1888, it was dark and seemingly deserted. It was chilly and damp, not unusual for London even in the summer, especially before dawn. He saw something that looked like a tarpaulin lying on the ground before the entrance to a stable yard.

As he walked closer, he saw it was a woman lying on her back, her skirts lifted almost to her waist. He saw another man walking the same way. "Come and look over here," he asked the man, assuming that the woman was either drunk or the victim of an assault. As they tried to help her in the darkened street, neither of the two men saw the awful wounds that had nearly decapitated her. They fixed her skirt for modesty's sake and went to look for a policeman.


Constable finds the body

A few minutes later, Police Constable John Neil happened by the body while he was walking his beat. From the light of his lantern, he could see that blood was oozing from her throat, which had been slashed from ear to ear. Her eyes were wide open and staring. Even though her hands and wrists were cold, Neil felt warmth in her arms. He called to another policeman, who summoned a doctor and an ambulance.


PC John Neil

Neil awakened some of the residences in the respectable neighborhood to find out if they had heard anything suspicious, but to no avail. Soon, Dr. Rees Llewellyn arrived on the scene and examined the woman. The wounds to her throat had been fatal, he told them. Since parts of her body were still warm, the doctor felt that she had been dead no longer than a half-hour, dying perhaps minutes after Neil had completed his earlier walk around that area.

Her neck had been slashed twice, the cuts severing her windpipe and esophagus. She had been killed where she was found, even though there was very little blood on the ground. Most of the lost blood had soaked into her clothing. The body was taken to the mortuary on Old Montague Street, which was part of the workhouse there. While the body was being stripped, Inspector Spratling discovered that her abdomen had been wounded and mutilated. He called Dr. Llewellyn back for a more detailed examination.

The doctor determined that the woman had been bruised on the lower left jaw. The abdomen exhibited a long, deep jagged knife wound, along with several other cuts from the same instruments, running downward. The doctor guessed that a left-handed person could have inflicted these wounds very quickly with a long-bladed knife. Later, the doctor was not so sure about the killer being left-handed.
There have been several theories about how the wounds were inflicted. Philip Sugden makes a persuasive case:


Dr Llewellyn

If (the victim's) throat were cut while she was erect and alive, a strong jet of blood would have spurted from the wound and probably deluged the front of her clothing. But in fact there was no blood at all on her breast or the corresponding part of her clothes. Some of the flow from the throat formed a small pool on the pavement beneath (her) neck and the rest was absorbed by the backs of the dress bodice and ulster. The blood from the abdominal wound largely collected in the loose tissues. Such a pattern proves that (her) injuries were inflicted when she was lying on her back and suggests that she may have already been dead.

Identification would not be easy. All she had on her was a comb, a broken mirror and a handkerchief. The Lambeth Workhouse mark was on her petticoats. There were no identifying marks on her other inexpensive and well-worn clothes. She had a black straw hat with black velvet trim.

The woman was approximately five feet two inches tall with brown graying hair, brown eyes and several missing front teeth.


"Polly" Nichols

But later, as news of the murder spread around Whitechapel, the police learned of a woman named "Polly," who lived in a lodging house at 18 Thrawl Street. Eventually, a woman from the Lambeth Workhouse identified the victim as Mary Ann Nichols, age 42. The next day her father and her husband identified her body.

Polly had been the daughter of a locksmith and had married William Nichols, a printer's machinist. They had five children. Her drinking had caused their marriage to break up. For the most part, Polly had been living off her meager earnings as a prostitute. She still had a very serious drinking problem. Every once in awhile, she would try to get her life back together, but it never worked out. She was a sad, destitute woman, but one that most people liked and pitied.


Martha Tabram

The inspector in charge of the investigation was a police veteran named Frederick George Abberline, who had been on the force 25 years, most of which had been spent in the Whitechapel area.

The murderer of Polly Nichols left nothing behind in the way of witnesses, weapon or any other type of clue. None of the residents nearby heard any kind of disturbance, nor did any of the workmen in the area notice anything unusual. Even though Polly had been found very shortly after her death, no vehicle or person was seen escaping the scene of the crime. At one point, suspicion focused upon three horse slaughterers who worked nearby, but it was proven that they were working while the murder occurred.

At the time of Polly Nichols' death, the inhabitants of London's Whitechapel area had already heard about a number of attacks on women in that neighborhood. Whether or not one or more of these attacks was perpetrated by the man who later became known as Jack the Ripper is controversial. However, in the minds of the people of Whitechapel, most of these crimes were linked indisputably.

On Monday, August 6, 1888, several weeks before Polly Nichols' murder, Martha Tabram, a 39-year-old prostitute, was found murdered in George Yard. The time of death was estimated to be 2:30 a.m. She had been stabbed 39 times on "body, neck and private parts with a knife or dagger," according to Dr. Timothy Killeen's post-mortem examination report. There was no indication that the throat had been slashed or the abdomen extensively mutilated. With the exception of one wound that had been delivered with a strong knife with a long blade, such as a dagger or bayonet, many other wounds had been inflicted with a penknife.

According to another prostitute, Mary Ann Connelly, known as Pearly Poll, she and Martha had been together in the company of two soldiers until a few hours before Martha was killed. The police took Poll to check out the soldiers at the Tower garrison, but the soldiers she identified were cleared of the crime. A constable who had been on duty in the vicinity of George Yard also saw a soldier in that area around the time of Martha's death, but this soldier was never properly identified.

Some months earlier, Emma Smith, a 45-year-old prostitute, was attacked on April 2, 1888, at seven o'clock in the evening, within 100 yards of where Martha Tabram was found. Her head and face were badly injured and a blunt instrument had been rammed into her vagina. She told the woman at her lodging house that several men robbed and assaulted her.


George Yard buildings


St. Mary's Church in Whitechapel,
near where Emma Smith was assaulted

While these incidences of violence so close together in Whitechapel were linked so firmly in the minds of their neighbors, the crimes themselves were very different. Tabram was probably murdered by one individual, while several men assaulted Smith. Robbery was clearly the motive of the Smith assault, but not the murder of Tabram. The nature of the wounds inflicted was quite different. Thus, it is not likely that the same assailant was responsible for both crimes. Only the Tabram murder bears any similarity to the work of the man eventually known as Jack the Ripper.
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HeHe, thanks for adding more info.

i've like read the whole thing for 1/2 hour lols.
gd gd thxs xD


( and whats a "tarpaulin"???)
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They even made an episode on 'Is It Real' about Jack the Ripper. He's kinda infamous in a disgusting way. He might be 'from hell' but i suppose now he is having fun in the fires of hell.
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