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The Stupidity of Christmas
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Posted 12/9/08

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I thought the presents were because the 3 wise men who visited Jesus gave him gifts.


We give each other prezzies because a giant, omnipotent and completely imaginary sock puppet in the sky gave us this marvellous baby thing so it follows that we give each other presents...in socks on the fire place.

I only know that because of scripture.

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dont suppose it matters where the origins of christmas and all its traditions come from because the key reason for celebrating christmas is to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ everything else is just to make the season and the day more special in particular for those who do not believe in God/Jesus


Then why don't you celebrate Christmas when christ was actually fucking born??

Dumb ass.
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maggie_draco wrote:


sorenku wrote:


maggie_draco wrote:

The Stupidity of Christians: VERY FUCKING HIGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the bastards killed the pagans and stole their holidays, but at least they got their comeuppance briefly when they were being thrown to the lions in Rome a while ago.

Oh, and christ was born in september.




A 13 year old bashing Christians? lol. I'm sure there are plenty of stupid atheists out there. Does that mean I can say that atheists are stupid? No. By the way, nobody knows when Christ was born. I don't think it's all that important when He was born anyways.

As for the topic, I personally don't label Christmas as a Christian holiday. It's just like any other holiday for fun and more family time.



All Christians (and other objects of whatever god worshipping religions) are stupid the same way all retards are stupid; irrevocably, a bit like how not labelling CHRISTmas a Christian holiday is like looking at a mango, thinking "Looks like mango...smells like a mango," yelling "NO!! IT CAN'T BE"and running off into the hills, sobbing like an emo who just heard they actually have something to be depressed about.

I'm not an Atheist.
I'm a satanist.


Haha, you're a funny one. I didn't even call you an atheist, but okay. Now you're bashing religion and declaring that you are a satanist? Satanism is a religion as far as I'm concerned.

If you are joking, please continue. If not, I suggest you stop.
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Posted 12/9/08

maggie_draco wrote:


Mazza_anifan wrote:

dont suppose it matters where the origins of christmas and all its traditions come from because the key reason for celebrating christmas is to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ everything else is just to make the season and the day more special in particular for those who do not believe in God/Jesus


Then why don't you celebrate Christmas when christ was actually fucking born??

Dumb ass.


You twisted, lil' person, you're confusing traditional perceptions of Christmas with its religious significance. Christianity has always aimed to segregate itself from society and all of societies warped secular perceptions. The principle is still applicable with the holiday. There is of course the secular perception but that does not or rather, should not detract from its religious symbolism. The origin of the holiday is a triviality, what is significant, is its current perception by people a individual basis.
Posted 12/9/08

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Christianity is based off of the worship of the sun,which means Christ himself is a pagan figure.


Christianity was based off of Jewdism and Jesus.How is Christs a pagan figure? peace over war


I had watched a doc called The Pagan Christ,but after some research I have heard there are flaws in it so I guess it should be taken with a grain of salt.
If anyone is interested in the doc it can be found here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coSNIIE4JxA
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I don't actually have anything against Christmas, except that people without families are committing suicide on that day. I guess they could commit suicide anytime, but things like Christmas give them the "You have no family!" message and rub it in. That's just my opinion though.
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Posted 12/9/08

superninjaboy wrote:


JJT2 wrote:


superninjaboy wrote:

Christianity is based off of the worship of the sun,which means Christ himself is a pagan figure.


Christianity was based off of Jewdism and Jesus.How is Christs a pagan figure? peace over war


I had watched a doc called The Pagan Christ,but after some research I have heard there are flaws in it so I guess it should be taken with a grain of salt.
If anyone is interested in the doc it can be found here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coSNIIE4JxA


I take it one step further. http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=ljRKhZ81aqY
Posted 12/9/08
Forgot about Zeitgeist decent movie.
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Who really gives a fuck, just let people have their holiday and enjoy it. What's wrong with people just being happy and having a nice holiday?
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Posted 12/9/08

sorenku wrote:


maggie_draco wrote:


sorenku wrote:


maggie_draco wrote:

The Stupidity of Christians: VERY FUCKING HIGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the bastards killed the pagans and stole their holidays, but at least they got their comeuppance briefly when they were being thrown to the lions in Rome a while ago.

Oh, and christ was born in september.




A 13 year old bashing Christians? lol. I'm sure there are plenty of stupid atheists out there. Does that mean I can say that atheists are stupid? No. By the way, nobody knows when Christ was born. I don't think it's all that important when He was born anyways.

As for the topic, I personally don't label Christmas as a Christian holiday. It's just like any other holiday for fun and more family time.



All Christians (and other objects of whatever god worshipping religions) are stupid the same way all retards are stupid; irrevocably, a bit like how not labelling CHRISTmas a Christian holiday is like looking at a mango, thinking "Looks like mango...smells like a mango," yelling "NO!! IT CAN'T BE"and running off into the hills, sobbing like an emo who just heard they actually have something to be depressed about.

I'm not an Atheist.
I'm a satanist.


Haha, you're a funny one. I didn't even call you an atheist, but okay. Now you're bashing religion and declaring that you are a satanist? Satanism is a religion as far as I'm concerned.

If you are joking, please continue. If not, I suggest you stop.


I was bashing god worshipping religions. LaVeyan Satanism is not one of those.

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Who really gives a fuck, just let people have their holiday and enjoy it. What's wrong with people just being happy and having a nice holiday?



Agreed.
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maggie_draco wrote:


Mazza_anifan wrote:

dont suppose it matters where the origins of christmas and all its traditions come from because the key reason for celebrating christmas is to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ everything else is just to make the season and the day more special in particular for those who do not believe in God/Jesus


Then why don't you celebrate Christmas when christ was actually fucking born??

Dumb ass.


You twisted, lil' person, you're confusing traditional perceptions of Christmas with its religious significance. Christianity has always aimed to segregate itself from society and all of societies warped secular perceptions. The principle is still applicable with the holiday. There is of course the secular perception but that does not or rather, should not detract from its religious symbolism. The origin of the holiday is a triviality, what is significant, is its current perception by people a individual basis.


Christianity has always aimed to scare society into conforming to their insane laws that are straight out of the strange magic book written by the giant, omnipotent sock puppet in the sky, and have succeeded. Back in the day laws were based purely on reasonless discrimination and those laws were of course based on "the Bible".

If the principle was still applicable with the holiday then non - Christians wouldn't celebrate it.
As for the "trivial" origin, I'm sure that's what the Christians though at the time.

Someone asked the Pope if they should keep the pagans involved in their winter solstice, I mean CHRISTMAS, and he said "Fuck it."
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I just feel forced into Christmas every year......with the music blaring over the speakers at retail stores and the radio......so much Christmas imagery is forced on the American people and other holidays are just non-exsistant!
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I do have the same misgivings as everyone of Christmas, at how commercialize and package Christmas seems to have become and how other holidays seems to pale in comparison to it. To be honest i do not know what to make about the pagan characteristics Christmas shares which everyone here talks about so i won't dwell on it.

In a way, it is during Christmas when people spend money (launch dates of Movies, games, electronic devices tend to launch during Christmas period), governments encourage such commercialization as consumer spending significantly helps the countries economy. Despite all that it is also during Christmas that people are more giving and charitable and charities tend to gather better donations during such period.

Also not to be too chiding or a know-it-all, but the current threads are getting a little too heated and spiteful especially in some videos so please try to tone it down a little please. Still i wish everyone, especially you raja613 Happy Holidays. I wish you good health and good fortune forever and ever more.
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