What has the U.S.A come to these past years?
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The United States of America was once a very respected country, but now we have lost that all from most of the countries from around the world. And, this has probably been used before, the war on the Middle East is a main point. Everyone thinks it's bush, but he did not have the brains for that. It was an idea grown many years before he was handed presidency. After 9/11, the U.S. sent supposed 'Smart bombs' over to bomb Afghanistan, said to hit only our enemies. A few weeks after, the punk-band known as Anti-Flag led a delegation to Afghanistan made up of people who lost love ones in 9/11.

It turned out these 'smart bombs' weren't as smart as they were made out to be. It killed innocent people, and the ones responsible didn't bother to send any help for fixing buildings and houses, heal the wounded, or even count the dead. The U.S. military calls this "collateral damage".

My ending comment is something I find incredibly stupid. Bill Clinton was impeached for doing some pretty dumb things, but bush lived out his two terms in office while the bush administration started a war and killed many innocent people.
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Posted 12/9/08
Blame the White House current administration for the crisis, war and everything that happens here in this world
Posted 12/9/08
Yeah Bush blew up a country and Bill Clinton blew a load onto a dress, one got impeached the other has had a full presidency where he was the most popular and now the least popular president in history. I think the military industrial complex or the war lobby has its feet planted firmly in the white house no matter who the president is shit will still blow up,Democrats just don't go all out, they do it reluctantly. The United States popularity has taken a dip for things such as lack of Diplomacy and a shift to so called "Cowboy Diplomacy", too much nationalistic pride, a little xenophobia, a large voting block of far right religious nuts, to corporate, and the world as it stands right now seems less safe than it did back in the 90s when Clinton was president. Not saying the U.S. is the worst country,it is just going through some difficult times right now and I hope to see the America that was a shining example for the world some time soon.
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USA is now a debtor country. Just imagine the nation which once was beautiful is the number 1 nation of debt. The bald eagle has landed and cannot fly. And which each election we keep plucking the birds feathers because we constitently elect politicians who are never right and corrupt.
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superninjaboy wrote:

Yeah Bush blew up a country and Bill Clinton blew a load onto a dress, one got impeached the other has had a full presidency where he was the most popular and now the least popular president in history. I think the military industrial complex or the war lobby has its feet planted firmly in the white house no matter who the president is shit will still blow up,Democrats just don't go all out, they do it reluctantly. The United States popularity has taken a dip for things such as lack of Diplomacy and a shift to so called "Cowboy Diplomacy", too much nationalistic pride, a little xenophobia, a large voting block of far right religious nuts, to corporate, and the world as it stands right now seems less safe than it did back in the 90s when Clinton was president. Not saying the U.S. is the worst country,it is just going through some difficult times right now and I hope to see the America that was a shining example for the world some time soon.


Yeah, I agree with you saying that the U.S. is not the worst country, but it is one of the worst. I'm glad that we're getting the conservative degenerates out of office. Let's see if the liberals can start to fix this problem called the U.S. and get us out of this stupid war for the wrong reasons, and into it for the right reasons.
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Posted 12/9/08
I find it completely sad how we're supposed to be the best country.
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Posted 12/10/08
watch "Zeitgeist: Addendum"
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hmmm, maybe all these foreigners will stay in their own fucking country and stop coming here ?
Posted 12/10/08

asamiueto wrote:

hmmm, maybe all these foreigners will stay in their own fucking country and stop coming here ?


I do not think that is why America is doing bad, if anything having a multicultural country is better than putting up xenophobic walls around yourself.
Posted 12/10/08

superninjaboy wrote:


asamiueto wrote:

hmmm, maybe all these foreigners will stay in their own fucking country and stop coming here ?


I do not think that is why America is doing bad, if anything having a multicultural country is better than putting up xenophobic walls around yourself.


true.
i'm more concerned about traffic lines. less population = less lines
Posted 12/10/08

asamiueto wrote:


superninjaboy wrote:


asamiueto wrote:

hmmm, maybe all these foreigners will stay in their own fucking country and stop coming here ?


I do not think that is why America is doing bad, if anything having a multicultural country is better than putting up xenophobic walls around yourself.


true.
i'm more concerned about traffic lines. less population = less lines


I see, has to do with convince.
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Akisame-sama wrote:

The United States of America was once a very respected country, but now we have lost that all from most of the countries from around the world. And, this has probably been used before, the war on the Middle East is a main point. Everyone thinks it's bush, but he did not have the brains for that. It was an idea grown many years before he was handed presidency. After 9/11, the U.S. sent supposed 'Smart bombs' over to bomb Afghanistan, said to hit only our enemies. A few weeks after, the punk-band known as Anti-Flag led a delegation to Afghanistan made up of people who lost love ones in 9/11.

It turned out these 'smart bombs' weren't as smart as they were made out to be. It killed innocent people, and the ones responsible didn't bother to send any help for fixing buildings and houses, heal the wounded, or even count the dead. The U.S. military calls this "collateral damage".

My ending comment is something I find incredibly stupid. Bill Clinton was impeached for doing some pretty dumb things, but bush lived out his two terms in office while the bush administration started a war and killed many innocent people.


You sound surprised about us killing innocent people with our reckless use of explosives. It's sad to see how many people are ignorant to how long this has been going on within our military campaign. It's happened in previous wars, such as Vietnam with napalm, and it's going to continue to happen. It's quite easy to cover up most of these things though. Set up some media or campaign to raise the spirits of America for war (AKA, post 9/11 Rallying of the Flag) and call anyone who refuses to look at the situation in the ignorant way a communist or anti-American.

Of course I'm not implying that other warring factions have never killed innocent lives through warfare, but USA, by far, does the best job of "covering it up" and labeling as "For the cause of the country". God forbid another nation does it, we'll give them hell about it and call them immoral. We aren't the best country in the world, but damn it, we're the #1 hypocrites. They can never take that away from us.

You're also incorrect in the assumption that America was a "very respected country". Our history books do a great job of covering up our dirty-side of our palms and showing only the clean side.

Keep in mind that the definition of "collateral damage" changes and is easily malleable - just like anything that the government/military defines.



Akisame-sama wrote:
Yeah, I agree with you saying that the U.S. is not the worst country, but it is one of the worst. I'm glad that we're getting the conservative degenerates out of office. Let's see if the liberals can start to fix this problem called the U.S. and get us out of this stupid war for the wrong reasons, and into it for the right reasons.


The issue of conservative or liberal is a foolish and idiotic thing to debate about and ultimately you are just as bad as the "conservatives who label and decide upon it" (as you see it). Both conservative and liberal are capable of doing stupid and inhumane things - in fact the whole "I'm a liberal/conservative" accounts to nothing more than getting the votes - absolutely nothing to do with bad decision making.


superninjaboy wrote:
Not saying the U.S. is the worst country,it is just going through some difficult times right now and I hope to see the America that was a shining example for the world some time soon.


Keep hoping cowboy because it's not going to be happening anytime soon (or at all for that matter).
EDIT: "USA is just going through difficult times"
Man that's been thrown around so much that it's lost all meaning.
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Posted 12/11/08
We've never been the shining example of anything. The rest of the world is just wising up to it.
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Posted 12/11/08
We're slowly gaining equals in power, and we can't handle that we're not the center of the world, as if we once were. It probably doesn't help that an abundance of people have lost their self-sufficiency, and expect the government to do everything for them...
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