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is squarenix keeping up with other game companies?
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in my opinion i think that square is starting to lose its edge within the gaming industry.
with all the latest games such as Call of Duty 4 and Halo 3 and other great looking games
coming out i believe they are falling behind, although they it seems they still are top in
making rpg genre games. i think that if Final Fantasy 13 or Versus 13 doesn't go well
then square will start to lose its popularity in the gaming industry who in the end only has the product of the name final fantasy for sell. as i am a big rpg fan i hope that the up coming games will be awesome and if it is than square is still in the game with the other companies. well what do you guys think?

Posted 12/10/07

kurotomo wrote:

in my opinion i think that square is starting to lose its edge within the gaming industry.
with all the latest games such as Call of Duty 4 and Halo 3 and other great looking games
coming out i believe they are falling behind, although they it seems they still are top in
making rpg genre games. i think that if Final Fantasy 13 or Versus 13 doesn't go well
then square will start to lose its popularity in the gaming industry who in the end only has the product of the name final fantasy for sell. as i am a big rpg fan i hope that the up coming games will be awesome and if it is than square is still in the game with the other companies. well what do you guys think?



You're comparing an RPG franchise company to FPS games...besides Halo 3 didn't even look that good you're out of your mind,

I don't think they have quite lost their touch FF12 was a rather good game.
Exactly what other RPG's have came out since FF12 that have been so superior in your opinion?

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Square-enix doesn't have to keep up with anyone. Everyone else has been chasing them for years.

You're right though, if ffxiii doesn't go down well it'd be catastrophic, they've banked everything on its success. That seems unlikely though, considering the teams that they've managed to put together. Besides, the demos for the ffxiii series look great.
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in my opinion another good rpg game was persona 3. it was published by atlus and was nominated for VGA RPG of the year. it had an original storyline and other things such as social links etc.
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in my opinion another good rpg game was persona 3. it was published by atlus and was nominated for VGA RPG of the year. it had an original storyline and other things such as social links etc.


I really didn't even like Persona 3 or any of the series.
The battle system was pretty awful you don't even have control of your other characters. You basically have to fight with one person most of the game because the other characters do basically diddley to help you win any fights.

I don't think visually it was all that appealing either..to many dark places and it just didn't look that "pretty" to me.

The music i thought felt really out of place as well.

I will say this though. The game has tons of replay value and they try pretty damn hard to make a deep story

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kurotomo wrote:

in my opinion i think that square is starting to lose its edge within the gaming industry.
with all the latest games such as Call of Duty 4 and Halo 3 and other great looking games
coming out i believe they are falling behind, although they it seems they still are top in
making rpg genre games. i think that if Final Fantasy 13 or Versus 13 doesn't go well
then square will start to lose its popularity in the gaming industry who in the end only has the product of the name final fantasy for sell. as i am a big rpg fan i hope that the up coming games will be awesome and if it is than square is still in the game with the other companies. well what do you guys think?



Well you were kinda comparing apple with orange (RPG vs FPS) and imho you can't really compare those 2 genres because each has its own market. AFAIK, Square Enix(SQE) only makes rpg so far.
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kurotomo wrote:

in my opinion another good rpg game was persona 3. it was published by atlus and was nominated for VGA RPG of the year. it had an original storyline and other things such as social links etc.


I really didn't even like Persona 3 or any of the series.
The battle system was pretty awful you don't even have control of your other characters. You basically have to fight with one person most of the game because the other characters do basically diddley to help you win any fights.

I don't think visually it was all that appealing either..to many dark places and it just didn't look that "pretty" to me.

The music i thought felt really out of place as well.

I will say this though. The game has tons of replay value and they try pretty damn hard to make a deep story

Trevor (OP)


Persona 3 is not for everyone and I personally don't like the whole 'Dark' them, although, the battle system is pretty interesting. It's a mix of rpg + dating simulation game.
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Enough with Persona 3. I know it's a good game and all but lets get back to the topic ok?
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firstly they will always be on top of the rpg genre there isnt a game that has done so well like the final fantasy series in rpg genre. and halo 3 visuals will probably not look that good compared to final fantasy XIII graphics. also rpgs and fps games are totally two different genres and fps games are always easier to make or are easier to get a sale, cause who doesnt like fast paced gun games where you can kill your oppenets over and over again, so the depth of the story doesnt need to be as great as a rpg game. lastly they have created other popular franchises that still arent completely done , like kingdom hearts and dragon quest so there is still lots of potential for them to continue
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Yes I agree square hasnt made a good game after FF X they are def losing their touch. I dont see them as sticking out anymore after FFX-2 was released followed by FF11 & 12(FF 12 wasnt that bad it was just kind of "meh" and could have been A LOT BETTER) and those bullshit FF 7 spin offs that was all medicore. They going to have to pull a miracle with FF 13 or they just average with the other rpg companies. If mistwalker lost oddesy owns FF 13 square is officailly dead imo. Well not dead but defiantly lost their touch. You cant just give a company good ratings if they start to slack ass. But you heard the saying you cant stay number 1 forever someone going to take your spot.
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yeah they are like different genres but didn't square's shooter(FF7 dirge of cerebus) game play felt kind of lacking, although the story was interesting. but what im trying to say is not that square is bad its just how are they going to overcome these great FPS with their RPG genre. true squares graphics are good but it seems as though more and more companies are getting better. im afraid that one day square might just meet its maker.
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kurotomo wrote:

in my opinion i think that square is starting to lose its edge within the gaming industry.
with all the latest games such as Call of Duty 4 and Halo 3 and other great looking games
coming out i believe they are falling behind, although they it seems they still are top in
making rpg genre games. i think that if Final Fantasy 13 or Versus 13 doesn't go well
then square will start to lose its popularity in the gaming industry who in the end only has the product of the name final fantasy for sell. as i am a big rpg fan i hope that the up coming games will be awesome and if it is than square is still in the game with the other companies. well what do you guys think?



I agree with the final fantasy 13 and versus part but lol you cant compare rpg genre with fps. But I see where your getting and I think like this as well.
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Yes I agree square hasnt made a good game after FF X they are def losing their touch. I dont see them as sticking out anymore after FFX-2 was released followed by FF11 & 12 and those bullshit FF 7 spin offs that was all medicore. They going to have to pull a miracle with FF 13 or they just average with the other rpg companies. If mistwalker lost oddesy owns FF 13 square is officailly dead imo.


this is also a fact, lost odessy sucks and if 13 is worse than this( although it doesn't look like it) i don't know what to say. and their idea of FF7 spin offs seemed kind of not there. i just wanna know what happen to there great rpgs such as legend of dragoon and chrono cross. these were awesome for the ps system. i don't see these kind of original kind of rpg anymore from square.
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I think SE is going to do great with FF13. It's smart of them to put all they have behind it because even if it sucks they WILL sell millions regardless.
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kurotomo wrote:

in my opinion another good rpg game was persona 3. it was published by atlus and was nominated for VGA RPG of the year. it had an original storyline and other things such as social links etc.


I really didn't even like Persona 3 or any of the series.
The battle system was pretty awful you don't even have control of your other characters. You basically have to fight with one person most of the game because the other characters do basically diddley to help you win any fights.

I don't think visually it was all that appealing either..to many dark places and it just didn't look that "pretty" to me.

The music i thought felt really out of place as well.

I will say this though. The game has tons of replay value and they try pretty damn hard to make a deep story

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I have to agree with you on the music on persona 3 lol it was fucking weird shit. Almost as if they tried to hard to keep this dark rock and roll typish theme. That music CD that came with it is in the trash.

But yeah to be back on topic I miss playing final fantasies to where all I have to do is go in to town and buy my gear without any type of items to create it. I miss the auto leveling up where square already has your character skills made for them as you level up. I miss where you can have 4-5 members on your party fight. I miss those big ass bosses that shows up out the blue and is like, "Fuck you, you aint go no where boyz." And the intense battle music that follows it. I miss the challenging difficulties because it serioulsy seems FFX and up is easier then the past ones. They making all these new ways to level up and learn skills which some are good but some are over the top. I like the saying, "if it aint broke dont fix it." We just want that epic feeling that went away after FFX.
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