Rotaries do not suck. They may be torque less wonders but who dont like the sound of 12K Turbocharged RPM's.

Ill take Torque over sound any day of the week. i like engines that dont have to turn 8+k rpm's just to make decent power.

fact, these motors rev high, but have a high output in horsepower as they creep up to the redline, hence when matched with a long gear ratio transmission, it can have an extremely high top speed, another fact, the time it takes to get to 12k rpm in a tuned rx7 is just as fast as it takes for v8 that has to rev to 6.7k rpm to get max hp in the powerband......btw, these motors mated with a good turbo setup will amount to a lot of torque.
oh yea, did i mention that these motors are insanely light? the 3rd gen rx7 had nearly 50 50 weight distribution due to the fact that the motor was so light, it made the car out-preform many others in the circuit racing world. learn a little more about these motors until you decide say they suck.

i do know a decent ammount about them but still think they suck. IMO there fine for plane / prop engines i just dont care for them as car engines.

also im not sayin they cant make HP but they cant make TQ like a piston can.

ok ok, you think rotaries suck and others dont, i have thing i like, u have yours, woohoo everyones happy.
this forum has now become stupid, pointless, and has come off topic, lets get back to helping people with their car problems like the post says, and not go saying things suck when it is out of place and has nothing to do with the topic.... . this off topic ENDS HERE.
now who need help with car troubles?

^Sorry I just had to say this:



I don't see any reason to think that. I own an FC and have owned an FB. They are Just as reliable and just as powerful as comparable piston engines.



Because Mazda is the only company that's smart enough to turn a profit on them. When rotary's hit the scene piston engines already had a monopoly on the market. Think of Apple and Microsoft. Microsoft owns the market and that's what most people use. But OS X fill's a niche market. Other company's have experimented with rotary's like Chevy, Rolls Royce, Norton, and plenty of aircraft manufactures but they were never smart enough to make it profitable.



This is all wrong, lets compare the RX8 to the 350Z
Gas millage:
RX8 = 25mpg
350Z = 25mpg

HP per liter
RX8 = 183
350Z = 82

Torque per liter
RX8 = 122.3
350Z =78.2

I have been working on my rx7's for years and they are a joy. Take a good look at the 350Z's engine bay and the RX7 or 8's and it's easy to see you have far more room to work in the RX7/8's bay.

And what the hell makes you think an engine with only THREE MOVING PARTS is harder to work on then a piston engine with hundreds of moving parts? I think you are clueless to rotary's and your just pissing in the wind hoping to try and make your views sound 'better'. Do some research rather than spout BS all over the board.

ok so if you get any pits or grooves in the cylinder walls can you hone them out? bore them over? nope gotta replace em.
true there is only a few moving parts but then agian when your main combuston seals only last 80 to 100k miles thats a good thing cuz you will be repalcing them almost 3 times as frequently over piston engines.

and ok the 350z gets 25mpg but then agian its a 3.5L engine
the RX8 is a 1.3L engine and only gets 25mpg? efficent much? no

1.3l RX8 238 hp @ 8,500 rpm and 159 ft lb @ 5,500

3.5L 350z 306 hp @ 6,800 and 268 ft lb @ 4,800

I will admit that my HP / TQ Per L figures were off i dident do the research on those specs.

but still my opion remains i dun like em but obviously you guys do so we agree to diagree like the guy in the other post said.

I compared the RX8 and 350Z because they are both in the same class. It would have been unfair to compare it to something like a 1.3L Honda. Both cars have similar track times and similar cost. The 350Z's extra HP and torque still does not make it faster around a track. If you ask me that makes the 350Z less efficient and shows that while Mazda was smart with their car design, Nissan just took a big engine and threw it into a chassis.

My FC has 140k miles on the original engine right now. My FB had 170k on it's original engine and both were dynoed recently. Both of them are putting out around 10hp less than stock. Show me a piston engine with 170k on the clock that can hold it's hp over time like that. I have buddy's that have gone well into the 200k's with RX7's and when they rebuild the engine all they need to do is take it apart and replace seals. Most of the time the metals are fine.

I will not lie though, rotary's drink gas, especially when you add turbos. But Mazda is smart enough to only put rotary's in certain classes where they will get the same MPG of other similar sports cars.

im sorry to say this Shabbernigdo but you just got OWNED haha
i tried to stop this argument but i just couldnt help say that after what killar said.
i still respect your opinions though.

lol mod vs reg cr member now haha. i wanan c who wins

i might MIGHT get one of these cars. What do you guys think is the better deal from the information shown?

http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/1029749171.html

http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/1049249232.html

both are hondas and similar horse power. Can you guys tell me which is the better car and reasons why? thanks

dont plan on getting that integra unless your gonna use it to race off road, its has a b20 vtec with turbo, no way that will pass smog, and definitely not visual inspection, its nice tho.

same thing with that civic, you get pulled over and your done.
cops will harass you, alot and will give you tickets for illegal modification and make u convert it back to stock, or street legal parts.
btw, never buy a car with a savage title, its not worth it.

over all that teg will kill that civic, thats that.

lol they have illegal street racing parts? hmm i kinda thought so xD can't i just take that part off, sell it on ebay and get a cheaper legal one?

Neither of them should pass smog unless it's tuned for low boost.

If you're going to buy a Honda, buy a Honda that's non-turbo. That might save you from future troubles.

just do what revolutionofone said,



buy a non turbo honda, if you get a civic or a teg, greddy makes legal turbo kits for them if you want power and legality.
there alot of legal parts for honda's, aem, dc sports, skunk2, greddy, etc..those are some of the companies that make carb legal parts, neither of those two cars you posted will be legal what-so-ever.