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Posted 12/16/08

tuybw wrote:

When I first came to this site in 2007, this was a haven of free anime so that i could indulge in my favorite guilty pleasure:P. I loved the dramas, animes, music, and forums. At some point in time, crunchyroll began to create payed memberships, instead of just asking for donations, and finally they make really high rates for us to pay if we want to see the anime earlier. Fansubs release what they're advertising for free, and its pretty fast, and on that note, crunchyroll is not accepting fansubs anymore. Do you guys think that crunchyroll changed alot, or is it just me.

This is because you're narrow minded, short sighted, and just asking questions without trying to understand the implications of everything.

First of all, there's no such thing as free anime. Anime are copyrighted & licensed intellectual properties with values, illegitimate fansubs are copyright & licensing infringed amateur garbage with no values. It takes money for anime industry to make anime, while the internet fansub groups steal anime from anime industry to make illegitimate fansubs. One help the anime subculture to become mainstream entertainment business that will make more anime, while the other one won't. Guess which one is which.

And as for why the change for crunchyroll, look here:

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/convention/2008/anime-expo/keynote-address-vu-nguyen-crunchyroll

Keynote Address: Vu Nguyen, Crunchyroll

Over the last year, Crunchyroll, the San Francisco-based video-sharing website has been one of the most controversial companies in the North American anime industry - especially when it was announced that it had secured an initial round of funding from venture capitalists. It was no surprise, then, that the Saturday morning keynote address presented by co-founder Vu Nguyen was awaited eagerly.

Over the next half-hour, the crisply-dressed Nguyen went through a set of Powerpoint slides that explained to attendees his company's basic philosophy and specific plans. Overall, Crunchyroll's goal is to push anime in America forward to reach as large an audience as possible. It did start out as a site without any sort of business infrastructure underneath, but is now working actively to transition to a proper revenue-sharing model. This goal, though, will take time, and to succeed, Crunchyroll will need the help of the anime industry both in Japan and in the U.S.

In the two years that it has been in operation, Crunchyroll has seen a rapid growth of its user base, while spending nothing on advertising and promotion. As of April, it has some 4.5 million members, and 65% of the site's visitors arrive at the site by directly typing in its Internet address. The most figures are that visitors spend an average of 15.5 minutes on the site and conduct 5 to 6 "user activities" (such as posting in the forums) per video watched. The more broad goal of Crunchyroll is to be an interactive experience built around content, not merely a venue for anime or other videos.

To promote itself to entertainment companies, the company has produced extensive statistics on its users. They are split fairly equally by gender (54% male, 46% female). The average age is 22, and 99% of all users are in the 13-34 age range. Seventy percent are in the 18-34 demographic, which advertisers and broadcasters have traditionally emphasized pursuing.

Thus, an average Crunchyroll user is a high school or college student who is tech-savvy, influenced by the interests of his or her peers and friends, with an average annual income of around $16,000 - and with more time on their hands, than money.

For a customer like that, the standard methods of getting access to anime in the U.S. by purchasing a DVD from a physical store may be awkward and even unintuitive. Japanese animation is still not easily available in stores, but both plentiful and easy to find on the Internet. Especially for a generation that has now been found to spend more time online than watching television, the Internet may be the first place to turn to in the search for any entertainment.

The current or potential Crunchyroll user is disappointed by the long period between when an anime series is announced for U.S. release and when it is actually available in the U.S. What is most interesting to them is what is popular right now, and the "cool factor" of many anime series does have a relatively short shelf life. At the same time, in the U.S. anime generally lacks any kind of "try before you buy" functionality that is offered by Japanese television.

To take advantage of these factors and expectations, Crunchyroll is planning a full-spectrum strategy for bringing anime and other media to customers. The first of these is digital distribution of anime without being tied down by having to create DVDs and ship them to stores. This removes the distribution and retailer middleman and is the easiest way to reach a highly fragmented market in which only a relatively small number of people, compared to the overall population of any given area, may actually be interested in purchasing anime in stores. In addition, Crunchyroll has noticed that only about 36% of its users are from the U.S., while the Philippines, Singapore and Malaysia combine for 37%.

Placing first episodes of anime online at the same time as they air in Japan obviously resolves the issue of excessive wait times between licensing and release. Interestingly, as Crunchyroll legally premiered episodes of the anime series Blassreiter and Tower of Druaga on their website, the number of users downloading these series illegally dropped by a significant percentage.

As Crunchyroll develops further, it will strive to find a balance between the desires of its audience and advertisers' requirements. Generally, these extend to a combination of high-quality content, an engaged audience, and better ways to track them. Crunchyroll has identified at least three business models for digital distribution, and plans to participate in all three. The first is on-demand streaming of low-quality content, funded by ads. The second is subscription-based high-quality video-on-demand. The third and final features excellent-quality video content, no digital rights management limitations, and individual per-episode pricing. Of these, the ad-supported model should prove the most popular, but all three will be viable to some extent. In any case, radical as they may sound, the three models are also not particularly different from traditional ways of distributing media on broadcast television, subscription cable, and DVD.

Other features that Crunchyroll is working on include a dedicated anti-piracy tool to remove unauthorized content from the website, a way for fansub groups to participate in the site by creating subtitle tracks for its shows in languages other than English, and informing potential advertisers about the kinds of products that Crunchyroll's users are most interested in - especially as some 80% of all revenue in the anime/manga market is actually derived from toys and secondary items, rather than actual content.




einsteinette1017 wrote:

Sure it changed. Just like you grow taller, flowers bloom, babies walk, and people die from STDs-things are progressive.

Protesting that change is not within your power... Well, protesting is, but actually getting something done won't happen. :\

Things change. Make best with what you've got. CR hasn't stopped ALL anime anyway, so relax.

Protesting is a part of the process that will start a change, just like how legal anime industry protested to the authority for legitimacy and protect their business from illegitimate fansubs that's killing their business:

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2007-10-23/japan-asks-america-to-stop-illegal-net-releases-of-anime

Japan Asks America to Stop Illegal Net Releases of Anime

Video-sharing sites, peer-to-peer file networks spotlighted

The Japanese government issued a formal statement of requests to the government of the United States on regulatory reform and market competition policy on October 18, and included a request for the United States to help stop the unauthorized reproduction and distribution of Japanese animation online. Specifically, the formal statement mentions the spread of Japanese animation and other materials on video-sharing sites and peer-to-peer file-sharing networks.

According to Japan's Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the distribution of copyrighted materials in the United States has increasingly damaged the creative industries of Japan. Despite frequent requests to remove unauthorized material from sites with user-submitted videos, the ministry says the fundamental problem remains unresolved for the foreseeable future. The ministry also says that the high legal costs and complex procedures of copyright infringement cases against peer-to-peer file-sharing are issues.

Japanese copyright holders have been sending increasing numbers of requests to remove unauthorized material from video-sharing sites such as Google's YouTube, and anime is its own category in several sites — inside and outside the United States — that link to file-sharing networks such as BitTorrent. The issues in the statement of requests were discussed in the fourth Japan-U.S. Trade Forum meeting which was held on October 18 in Tokyo.


http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2002-12-06/production-i.g-calls-for-moderation-in-fan-subbing

Production I.G. Calls for Moderation in Fan Subbing

A short post on the Production I.G forum, by Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex scriptwriter Yoshiki Sakurai, calls for American fans to buy their anime instead of downloading it. The writer cites the struggling anime market in Japan, and the problems they face with bootleggers around the world.


http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2007-09-28/gonzo-halts-romeo-juliet-fansub-with-funimation%27s-help
Gonzo Halts Romeo×Juliet Fansub with FUNimation's Help

FUNimation confirms it has not licensed R×J, but will act for Gonzo on new titles

The unofficial anime subtitling group Shinsen-Subs reported that it had received a letter Thursday which requested that Shinsen-Subs cease and desist its subtitling of Romeo × Juliet, an anime series by the Japanese studio Gonzo. The distribution company FUNimation Entertainment sent the letter on behalf of Gonzo. Shinsen-Subs stated it has "already complied to the requests in the letter, and this project is hereby dropped."

FUNimation has confirmed that it did send the letter on behalf of Gonzo and that the series has not yet been licensed to a distributor in North America. In a statement to ANN, FUNimation said, "…t is important to note that the rights owned by Japanese producers are still applicable, and enforceable, worldwide even before the anime is licensed for local distribution."

In a situation similar to Gonzo's, the Japanese anime distributor Media Factory's law firm requested that several websites and subtitling groups stop the unauthorized distribution of Media Factory's titles in December of 2004. The titles included ones which did not have a local distributor in North America at the time. Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex scriptwriter Yoshiki Sakurai asked American fans to buy anime, instead of downloading without authorization, in a December 2002 post on the Production I.G forum. At the time, the Stand Alone Complex series was still running in Japan, and had been effectively licensed but not yet released by Bandai Entertainment and Manga Entertainment in North America.

FUNimation's statement added, "FUNimation Entertainment, along with others in the industry both in Japan and North America, have long understood that unauthorized distribution of anime, especially prior to localization, is very harmful to Japanese producers because it lowers the value of the anime on the worldwide market. For this reason, Japanese producers are highly motivated to stop unauthorized distribution. We believe there will be a strong trend toward these types of anti-infringement actions being taken more regularly and systematically."

In regards to a possible license of the Romeo × Juliet anime re-imagining of William Shakespeare's romantic play, FUNimation said, "…[O]f course it is a fine show, and we would very much like to distribute it" in the United States.

FUNimation concluded, "As part of the longstanding relationship between FUNimation and Gonzo, we have been asked to monitor and take action against unauthorized distribution of all Gonzo's current new titles. Because we believe that this will benefit FUNimation, and the industry in general, we have agreed to do so."


http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2004-12-09/media-factory-makes-request-to-stop-fansubbing

Media Factory makes request to stop fansubbing

Legal Request Sent to Fansub Site
Media Factory, a Japanese anime distributor, has requested that all links to fansubs of shows it owns be removed from sites like Anime Suki.

According to Anime Suki, a law firm representing Media Works contacted Anime Suki in writing, requesting that the website, "uploading "works" (anime series) of MFI to our website and/or stop "inducing" our visitors to websites where their "works" can be downloaded." The full statement from Anime Suki can be read here.

Owning the rights to titles such as Genshiken, Gankutsuou, Kimi ga Nozomu Eien, and School Rumble, Media Factory is among the first of Japanese distributors to ask that unauthorized distribution of their anime titles (regardless of whether or not there is an international licensor) cease. Anime News Network is not aware of any other Japanese company that has made a similar request for all its titles, although several companies have requested that certain works not be fansubbed (ie: Production I.G's request regarding Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex, which was already "licensed" at the time).

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everything in our world willl change even if you like it or not :C sad but true


but at least cr became more legal unlike some sites.....
Posted 12/16/08
well yeah it changed... but I guess everything does....
Posted 12/16/08

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tuybw wrote:

When I first came to this site in 2007, this was a haven of free anime so that i could indulge in my favorite guilty pleasure:P. I loved the dramas, animes, music, and forums. At some point in time, crunchyroll began to create payed memberships, instead of just asking for donations, and finally they make really high rates for us to pay if we want to see the anime earlier. Fansubs release what they're advertising for free, and its pretty fast, and on that note, crunchyroll is not accepting fansubs anymore. Do you guys think that crunchyroll changed alot, or is it just me.


I have been a crunchyroll member for like 3 years, and i agree that crunchyroll did changed a lot, however i think most of it is in a good way. Some examples were Higher quality videos made available for everyone instead of just supporters, also the videos loads faster now than before. As for the membership fee, it didnt changed actually since before it has always been $5.00, which i think is a reasonable amount, the only time it is lower than $5.00 is during this previous summer, or when they stop the membership for a while.



wolfsaiga wrote:

um i have a question about the new crunchy roll to the earlier releases to the anime will there be subs or not i wonder. i doubt subs since the don't allow fansubs nemore crunchyroll will only have raw videos.


They will be subbed, but instead of fansubs, it will be staffed subbed, which will probably group of crunchyroll that makes the subs. Also since crunchyroll will be doing its own subs, it will arrive faster, 1 hour or so after the released date if you have an anime membership account. Otherwise you'll have to wait 1 week after the release, which isnt that long since most fansubs arrives 3-4 days after its released, waiting anothr 3-4 days shouldnt be that long.

Correction, the English subtitles will be done by the Japanese anime industry themselves. CR users from none-English speaking countries can then subtitle the crunchyroll licensed anime series with their own languages. This is a part of the standard services provided in the basic membership. In a sense, fansubbing will still be allowed on crunchyroll for legitimate crunchyroll licensed anime, but not illegitimate fansubs made by internet fansub groups and their supporters with their copyright infringing actions.



wolfsaiga wrote:


sherwin07 wrote:


tuybw wrote:

When I first came to this site in 2007, this was a haven of free anime so that i could indulge in my favorite guilty pleasure:P. I loved the dramas, animes, music, and forums. At some point in time, crunchyroll began to create payed memberships, instead of just asking for donations, and finally they make really high rates for us to pay if we want to see the anime earlier. Fansubs release what they're advertising for free, and its pretty fast, and on that note, crunchyroll is not accepting fansubs anymore. Do you guys think that crunchyroll changed alot, or is it just me.


I have been a crunchyroll member for like 3 years, and i agree that crunchyroll did changed a lot, however i think most of it is in a good way. Some examples were Higher quality videos made available for everyone instead of just supporters, also the videos loads faster now than before. As for the membership fee, it didnt changed actually since before it has always been $5.00, which i think is a reasonable amount, the only time it is lower than $5.00 is during this previous summer, or when they stop the membership for a while.



wolfsaiga wrote:

um i have a question about the new crunchy roll to the earlier releases to the anime will there be subs or not i wonder. i doubt subs since the don't allow fansubs nemore crunchyroll will only have raw videos.


They will be subbed, but instead of fansubs, it will be staffed subbed, which will probably group of crunchyroll that makes the subs. Also since crunchyroll will be doing its own subs, it will arrive faster, 1 hour or so after the released date if you have an anime membership account. Otherwise you'll have to wait 1 week after the release, which isnt that long since most fansubs arrives 3-4 days after its released, waiting anothr 3-4 days shouldnt be that long.


o cool but i have a feeling there will be people who is ganna hack cr to get the anime 1 our later after the sub, guess i will have to decide if i want 1 hour ahead for 5 bucks a month or wait a week. hmmm... well ty.

They will risk further internet piracy just for greedy instant self-gratification, come on, nobody is that bored. And besides, crunchyroll also got their own anti-piracy measures made by the staffers from their head office.



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yah in my opinion the CR changed ..it became worse ….now no fan subbing & I guess they will delete their storage of the anime that already has been uploaded ..but most of good animes are licensed anyway… but you know
anyway but my biggest problem is that CR decided to sub some certain animes & cuz of that the fan subbing teams consider them licensed now so no more subbing & that means no more anime download & no more archiving for me all what I could say now is goodbye Skip beat


Don't you know that Skip Beat! is one of the anime series that will be licensed by crunchyroll with this new change:

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2008-11-20/crunchyroll-to-stream-shugo-chara-skip-beat-anime

Crunchyroll to Stream Shugo Chara, Skip Beat Anime

Two TV Tokyo shōjo titles to join Naruto Shippūden on online service

The Crunchyroll website has announced on Wednesday that it will stream Shugo Chara!, Skip Beat!, and "many other" anime series from the Japanese broadcaster TV Tokyo. TV Tokyo and Crunchyroll had already announced that they will begin providing the latest episodes of the Naruto Shippūden anime series on January 8 within an hour of their Japanese broadcast. The Japanese news source BB Watch reported that Gintama is also one of the five anime titles that TV Tokyo will distribute overseas with English subtitles. TV Tokyo and Crunchyroll said that the website will move away from the user-uploaded content that have been its mainstay, and focus on "professionally-produced content […] approved by licensors."

The Shugo Chara! anime has been adapting Peach-Pit's popular magical girl manga of the same name since October 2007. Kenji Yasuda and Satelight's Shugo Chara!! Doki— sequel series began last month. Del Rey will publish the fifth of seven current volumes of the original manga in North America next month.

Director Kiyoko Sayama and the Hal Film Maker studio also premiered their television version of Yoshiki Nakamura's Skip Beat! shōjo manga in Japan last month. The story centers on a teenager named Kyōko who followed her childhood friend Shō to Tokyo as he pursues his show business dreams. Despite playing housekeeper for Shō, Kyōko overhears Shō dismissing her as a boring nobody. Furious, Kyōko vows to also become an actress and "defeat" Shō. Viz Media published the 15th of the 20 current volumes of the original manga in North America this month.




bubblegum-samurai wrote:

Nothing in this world is free.

Anyway, we can still watch anime in Veoh or Youtube and come back here to chat with our buddies. Come on, anime isn't the only thing on CR.

You obviously overestimate the behavior pattern of leeches, for there's nothing surprising to see them die out when there's nothing for them to leech onto. Such is the case of the internet fansub groups and their supporters, when crunchyroll become the exclusive internet anime licensing company, and thereby have all authority to cease and desist all copyright infringing actions on anime through legal means: http://wiki.crunchyroll.com/Licensing#Licensing_Rights
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I Dont know about before cuz it been at least 4 month's
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Yeah! I Agreed!!!
When I still have my 1st account it's so diff.
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my answer to your question is "duh"


yep
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does no fansubs mean no more kuroshitsuji? if so im outta here
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DomFortress wrote:

made by the staffers from their head office.



unicorna wrote:




yah in my opinion the CR changed ..it became worse ….now no fan subbing & I guess they will delete their storage of the anime that already has been uploaded ..but most of good animes are licensed anyway… but you know
anyway but my biggest problem is that CR decided to sub some certain animes & cuz of that the fan subbing teams consider them licensed now so no more subbing & that means no more anime download & no more archiving for me all what I could say now is goodbye Skip beat


Don't you know that Skip Beat! is one of the anime series that will be licensed by crunchyroll with this new change:




yah I know about that…. that’s exactly what's bothering me now skip beat is licensed by CR the fan sub group will stop subbing therefor there is no download any more so (goodbye archiving) & now I can only stream on the CR there is no downed & if they establish 1 I'm afraid that we have to pay to download for every single ep
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Yeah it changed, but the community has also changed too from when I first came to the site. It wasn't about the anime that made me love this site, it was the people. You could actually have debates going on in the forums, and you could actually make friends with people on it. Now most threads are one word responses, are stupid, and filled with people with no brains whatsoever. Not to say there weren't any brainless people back then, but there weren't such an overwhelming amount.

Users back then would usually take it upon themselves to correct other users breaking the rules, or sometimes just being a total dumb ass or ass hat. Crappy conversations go on in Crunchyroll's current threads, and it's just not an overall good community back then when it was small. There used be a nice form of Mini-Mod police, now some of them are just bitchy and bratty, and they just seem like total kiss ups who seek attention from Mods (they still don't get any.)

Anyways back the real point, yes it's going legal *shock*... This site became too big for it to just stay the way it is right now, it's been begging for lawsuits for a long time. Download your pretty little fansubs if you want, go to other websites, and good riddance.
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miserykitsune wrote:

does no fansubs mean no more kuroshitsuji? if so im outta here


Sorry but that’s right
Posted 12/16/08

st4b wrote:

anime is the only thing of real value on CR :/


-AzKaL- wrote:

lol....i dont care...if CR aint free?///theres a lot of sites out there...who will pay jst to watch here anyway if u can watch it for free in other sites...


nicknatts wrote:

lol yes it has changed alot...nd about the subs ...off to veoh everybody!!!!


digi0009 wrote:

that's how things are, they change ,don't worry there r plenty of sites that 'll provide free anime,but try supporting the anime companies for a change.......


blazerthunder wrote:

nothing is permanent in this world friend. internet is huge maybe another would be crunchyroll is in the making
(hopefully)

You obviously overestimate the behavior pattern of leeches, for there's nothing surprising to see them die out when there's nothing for them to leech onto. Such is the case of the internet fansub groups and their supporters, when crunchyroll become the exclusive internet anime licensing company, and thereby have all authority to cease and desist all copyright infringing actions on anime through legal means: http://wiki.crunchyroll.com/Licensing#Licensing_Rights



anzadesu wrote:

Though I haven't been here long I at least understand that such a site takes a LOT of the admin's money to run. Im sure he's asking for donations and creating said memberships so the site can still run. The only difference is that people who pay get some better quality and some nice perks while everyone else can still watch for free. It's not like Shinji wants to pay everything out of pocket by himself! What's wrong for asking for some help? At first just donations. And when you got nothing in return it was no biggie but now since he gives people who donate a perk, it's bad? Hmm... sounds like a little bit of flawed logic.

As for them getting rid of subs... I don't think it will really happen. And if it does it won't be as soon as tomarrow (or so I hope.) I think the logistics behind pairing up with some licensed anime is a good one. The site probably gets help for the company lisenceing the anime since CR is hosting it. I rather watch it on here than clutter my small living space with more overpriced DVDs I'll only watch once. I rather donate to CR what little they ask when I can watch so much as opposed to buying a DVD for $25 for only 4 or 5 episodes, if I'm lucky.

CR has changed in what time I've been here. I mostly come for the dramas I'll never get to see here in America. But I believe that Shinji is doing what's best to keep CR alive. So instead of saying things are so bad maybe we should be thanking him for keeping this site alive for so long?

Though I will admit I'm impatient about waiting a week for a new episode D: lol

crunchyroll are doing this more than just keeping themselves alive, for they became a 4 million dollars venture capital company funded by Venrock(http://www.venrock.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=search.form&criteria=crunchyroll&tier2_search.x=0&tier2_search.y=0&tier2_search=Submit). This is also to help Japanese anime industry to get paid for their works through licensing legit anime over the internet.
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As much as i dont like the change that much either, it cant be helped. Nothing stays the same forever. We just have to get used to it.
Posted 12/16/08

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st4b wrote:

anime is the only thing of real value on CR :/


-AzKaL- wrote:

lol....i dont care...if CR aint free?///theres a lot of sites out there...who will pay jst to watch here anyway if u can watch it for free in other sites...


nicknatts wrote:

lol yes it has changed alot...nd about the subs ...off to veoh everybody!!!!


digi0009 wrote:

that's how things are, they change ,don't worry there r plenty of sites that 'll provide free anime,but try supporting the anime companies for a change.......


blazerthunder wrote:

nothing is permanent in this world friend. internet is huge maybe another would be crunchyroll is in the making
(hopefully)

You obviously overestimate the behavior pattern of leeches, for there's nothing surprising to see them die out when there's nothing for them to leech onto. Such is the case of the internet fansub groups and their supporters, when crunchyroll become the exclusive internet anime licensing company, and thereby have all authority to cease and desist all copyright infringing actions on anime through legal means: http://wiki.crunchyroll.com/Licensing#Licensing_Rights



anzadesu wrote:

Though I haven't been here long I at least understand that such a site takes a LOT of the admin's money to run. Im sure he's asking for donations and creating said memberships so the site can still run. The only difference is that people who pay get some better quality and some nice perks while everyone else can still watch for free. It's not like Shinji wants to pay everything out of pocket by himself! What's wrong for asking for some help? At first just donations. And when you got nothing in return it was no biggie but now since he gives people who donate a perk, it's bad? Hmm... sounds like a little bit of flawed logic.

As for them getting rid of subs... I don't think it will really happen. And if it does it won't be as soon as tomarrow (or so I hope.) I think the logistics behind pairing up with some licensed anime is a good one. The site probably gets help for the company lisenceing the anime since CR is hosting it. I rather watch it on here than clutter my small living space with more overpriced DVDs I'll only watch once. I rather donate to CR what little they ask when I can watch so much as opposed to buying a DVD for $25 for only 4 or 5 episodes, if I'm lucky.

CR has changed in what time I've been here. I mostly come for the dramas I'll never get to see here in America. But I believe that Shinji is doing what's best to keep CR alive. So instead of saying things are so bad maybe we should be thanking him for keeping this site alive for so long?

Though I will admit I'm impatient about waiting a week for a new episode D: lol

crunchyroll are doing this more than just keeping themselves alive, for they became a 4 million dollars venture capital company funded by Venrock(http://www.venrock.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=search.form&criteria=crunchyroll&tier2_search.x=0&tier2_search.y=0&tier2_search=Submit). This is also to help Japanese anime industry to get paid for their works through licensing legit anime over the internet.


don't tell me,it's gonna get other sites licensed too
Posted 12/16/08 , edited 12/16/08

unicorna wrote:


DomFortress wrote:

made by the staffers from their head office.



unicorna wrote:




yah in my opinion the CR changed ..it became worse ….now no fan subbing & I guess they will delete their storage of the anime that already has been uploaded ..but most of good animes are licensed anyway… but you know
anyway but my biggest problem is that CR decided to sub some certain animes & cuz of that the fan subbing teams consider them licensed now so no more subbing & that means no more anime download & no more archiving for me all what I could say now is goodbye Skip beat


Don't you know that Skip Beat! is one of the anime series that will be licensed by crunchyroll with this new change:




yah I know about that…. that’s exactly what's bothering me now skip beat is licensed by CR the fan sub group will stop subbing therefor there is no download any more so (goodbye archiving) & now I can only stream on the CR there is no downed & if they establish 1 I'm afraid that we have to pay to download for every single ep

Do you know that by downloading illegitimate fansubs, you are possessing illegal properties stolen form the anime studios by the internet fansub groups and their supporters. And can get you in trouble with the law:

5 Anime Studios Sue 4 'Heavy Downloaders' in Singapore

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2008-11-17/5-anime-studios-sue-4-heavy-downloaders-in-singapore

Writs of summons filed this month for alleged infringement of studios' copyrights

The Strait Times newspaper reported last Wednesday that five Japanese anime studios are suing four allegedly unauthorized "heavy downloaders" of the studios' copyrighted material in Singapore. The local law firm Rajah & Tann filed the writs of summons on behalf of Japan's Showgate, Geneon Entertainment, TV Tokyo, GDH, and Sunrise at the beginning of this month. According to the newspaper, the four indviduals had rejected a previous offer to settle out of court.

Earlier this year, Rajah & Tann sent warning letters to alleged anime file-sharers on behalf of Showgate. Those earlier letters said that these individuals had been using the BitTorrent file-sharing system to download anime and infringe on Showgate's copyrights. Last year, the local anime distributor Odex had sent legal warnings to several Singaporeans for allegedly unauthorized downloading.

However, District Judge Ernest Lau had also ruled last year that the original copyright holders themselves — and not Odex by itself — must take direct legal action, and Singapore's High Court upheld that ruling in January. Showgate, TV Tokyo Medianet, GDH, Sunrise, Kadokawa Pictures, and Yomiuri TV had announced their support for Odex after Judge Lau's ruling last year, but Odex director Stephen Sing told The Electric New Paper in August that Odex was not involved with Raja & Tann's more recent warning letters.




HokiePokie wrote:

Yeah it changed, but the community has also changed too from when I first came to the site. It wasn't about the anime that made me love this site, it was the people. You could actually have debates going on in the forums, and you could actually make friends with people on it. Now most threads are one word responses, are stupid, and filled with people with no brains whatsoever. Not to say there weren't any brainless people back then, but there weren't such an overwhelming amount.

Users back then would usually take it upon themselves to correct other users breaking the rules, or sometimes just being a total dumb ass or ass hat. Crappy conversations go on in Crunchyroll's current threads, and it's just not an overall good community back then when it was small. There used be a nice form of Mini-Mod police, now some of them are just bitchy and bratty, and they just seem like total kiss ups who seek attention from Mods (they still don't get any.)

Anyways back the real point, yes it's going legal *shock*... This site became too big for it to just stay the way it is right now, it's been begging for lawsuits for a long time. Download your pretty little fansubs if you want, go to other websites, and good riddance.

Well that's what you get from youngsters mistaking illegal stolen properties, aka illegitimate fansubs as anime. But we of the older generation are also at fault; for we didn't educate them properly, and allowing those with evil intents lied to them about the morality of illegitimate fansubs. They are acting this way because we didn't set ourselves a good enough example for them to begin with, we got careless.
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