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The Science side they have TOUMA!!! He ability is negated any not physical


Touma can only negate what he can touch... The magic side had the lady with the sword who could have choped him up into a 100 thousand pieces in a matter of a seconds or prolonged it and played around with him some more... his negate ability is amazing but its incredibly limited, but if he can't match speeds with the attack its useless... cut off his arm and he's useless, like alchemy guy did.. he was unlucky that Touma found out the trick


I have to disagree, His fighting skill covers up that weakness, Touma might appear weak in the anime but he packs a punch in the manga, to the point that magic users have amplify their Physical abilities just to beat him.


I haven't read past cp 6-8 in the manga but it looks like most of the magic user's in the series stick to, close to mid-range fighting and don't use any guardians when fighting (a quick example negima and his pactio handlers), mages first off aren't front line material so it gives him a advantage from the beginning (styx or what was his name was rather cocky which is why he was beaten and I've yet to see a rematch) even with alchemy guy he had to be told a hint to win.. he needs hints to win most of his battles... I dont know about later bosses but against well experienced fighters like(sword girl) he'll die without much effort.. He as he is now in the anime is weak, (if the ppl he fought up to now hadn't "all" held back he would have died awhile ago).

On a further note is styx(please correct if wrong TT_TT) had used his summon guardian and attacked from one side continuously while getting to the opposite side and attacked with another spell (a pincer attack) touma would have lost. He can only stop what he can block but its limited to only his right hand, he cant handle multiple simultaneous attacks.


Apparently, He can spot his opponent's weakness before they really deal a critical damage against him, The only persons he's having a hard time against are the "Saints"(Equivalent to the Science side's "Awakened" ones) which gain a huge boost on their Physical ability, This highlights his weakness since he may have a great mind that can analyze he's opponent's weakness directly, but he can't go against those who are truly powered physically.
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Erehe wrote:


yubisaki wrote:


Erehe wrote:


yubisaki wrote:


nightbaneundead wrote:

The Science side they have TOUMA!!! He ability is negated any not physical


Touma can only negate what he can touch... The magic side had the lady with the sword who could have choped him up into a 100 thousand pieces in a matter of a seconds or prolonged it and played around with him some more... his negate ability is amazing but its incredibly limited, but if he can't match speeds with the attack its useless... cut off his arm and he's useless, like alchemy guy did.. he was unlucky that Touma found out the trick


I have to disagree, His fighting skill covers up that weakness, Touma might appear weak in the anime but he packs a punch in the manga, to the point that magic users have amplify their Physical abilities just to beat him.


I haven't read past cp 6-8 in the manga but it looks like most of the magic user's in the series stick to, close to mid-range fighting and don't use any guardians when fighting (a quick example negima and his pactio handlers), mages first off aren't front line material so it gives him a advantage from the beginning (styx or what was his name was rather cocky which is why he was beaten and I've yet to see a rematch) even with alchemy guy he had to be told a hint to win.. he needs hints to win most of his battles... I dont know about later bosses but against well experienced fighters like(sword girl) he'll die without much effort.. He as he is now in the anime is weak, (if the ppl he fought up to now hadn't "all" held back he would have died awhile ago).

On a further note is styx(please correct if wrong TT_TT) had used his summon guardian and attacked from one side continuously while getting to the opposite side and attacked with another spell (a pincer attack) touma would have lost. He can only stop what he can block but its limited to only his right hand, he cant handle multiple simultaneous attacks.


Apparently, He can spot his opponent's weakness before they really deal a critical damage against him, The only persons he's having a hard time against are the "Saints"(Equivalent to the Science side's "Awakened" ones) which gain a huge boost on their Physical ability, This highlights his weakness since he may have a great mind that can analyze he's opponent's weakness directly, but he can't go against those who are truly powered physically.


His biggest weakness is that he can only block one attack at a time and he's immobilized during that time... There's also the fact he can't handle a melee experienced combatant... And without the enemies weakness he's unable to go on the offensive.
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right now im in the science side but i really havent seen much of the magic yet sooo... it can change. Well one reason is cuz Accelerators power is pretty cool.
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yubisaki wrote:


Erehe wrote:


yubisaki wrote:


Erehe wrote:


yubisaki wrote:


nightbaneundead wrote:

The Science side they have TOUMA!!! He ability is negated any not physical


Touma can only negate what he can touch... The magic side had the lady with the sword who could have choped him up into a 100 thousand pieces in a matter of a seconds or prolonged it and played around with him some more... his negate ability is amazing but its incredibly limited, but if he can't match speeds with the attack its useless... cut off his arm and he's useless, like alchemy guy did.. he was unlucky that Touma found out the trick


I have to disagree, His fighting skill covers up that weakness, Touma might appear weak in the anime but he packs a punch in the manga, to the point that magic users have amplify their Physical abilities just to beat him.


I haven't read past cp 6-8 in the manga but it looks like most of the magic user's in the series stick to, close to mid-range fighting and don't use any guardians when fighting (a quick example negima and his pactio handlers), mages first off aren't front line material so it gives him a advantage from the beginning (styx or what was his name was rather cocky which is why he was beaten and I've yet to see a rematch) even with alchemy guy he had to be told a hint to win.. he needs hints to win most of his battles... I dont know about later bosses but against well experienced fighters like(sword girl) he'll die without much effort.. He as he is now in the anime is weak, (if the ppl he fought up to now hadn't "all" held back he would have died awhile ago).

On a further note is styx(please correct if wrong TT_TT) had used his summon guardian and attacked from one side continuously while getting to the opposite side and attacked with another spell (a pincer attack) touma would have lost. He can only stop what he can block but its limited to only his right hand, he cant handle multiple simultaneous attacks.


Apparently, He can spot his opponent's weakness before they really deal a critical damage against him, The only persons he's having a hard time against are the "Saints"(Equivalent to the Science side's "Awakened" ones) which gain a huge boost on their Physical ability, This highlights his weakness since he may have a great mind that can analyze he's opponent's weakness directly, but he can't go against those who are truly powered physically.


His biggest weakness is that he can only block one attack at a time and he's immobilized during that time... There's also the fact he can't handle a melee experienced combatant... And without the enemies weakness he's unable to go on the offensive.


That is true but what happen to touma when his hand got chop off and what is the thing appear in place of his hand.
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nightbaneundead wrote:


yubisaki wrote:


Erehe wrote:


yubisaki wrote:


Erehe wrote:


yubisaki wrote:


nightbaneundead wrote:

The Science side they have TOUMA!!! He ability is negated any not physical


Touma can only negate what he can touch... The magic side had the lady with the sword who could have choped him up into a 100 thousand pieces in a matter of a seconds or prolonged it and played around with him some more... his negate ability is amazing but its incredibly limited, but if he can't match speeds with the attack its useless... cut off his arm and he's useless, like alchemy guy did.. he was unlucky that Touma found out the trick


I have to disagree, His fighting skill covers up that weakness, Touma might appear weak in the anime but he packs a punch in the manga, to the point that magic users have amplify their Physical abilities just to beat him.


I haven't read past cp 6-8 in the manga but it looks like most of the magic user's in the series stick to, close to mid-range fighting and don't use any guardians when fighting (a quick example negima and his pactio handlers), mages first off aren't front line material so it gives him a advantage from the beginning (styx or what was his name was rather cocky which is why he was beaten and I've yet to see a rematch) even with alchemy guy he had to be told a hint to win.. he needs hints to win most of his battles... I dont know about later bosses but against well experienced fighters like(sword girl) he'll die without much effort.. He as he is now in the anime is weak, (if the ppl he fought up to now hadn't "all" held back he would have died awhile ago).

On a further note is styx(please correct if wrong TT_TT) had used his summon guardian and attacked from one side continuously while getting to the opposite side and attacked with another spell (a pincer attack) touma would have lost. He can only stop what he can block but its limited to only his right hand, he cant handle multiple simultaneous attacks.


Apparently, He can spot his opponent's weakness before they really deal a critical damage against him, The only persons he's having a hard time against are the "Saints"(Equivalent to the Science side's "Awakened" ones) which gain a huge boost on their Physical ability, This highlights his weakness since he may have a great mind that can analyze he's opponent's weakness directly, but he can't go against those who are truly powered physically.


His biggest weakness is that he can only block one attack at a time and he's immobilized during that time... There's also the fact he can't handle a melee experienced combatant... And without the enemies weakness he's unable to go on the offensive.


That is true but what happen to touma when his hand got chop off and what is the thing appear in place of his hand.


That wasn't Touma's power that was Alchemy guy XD... Touma messed with his head.. Alchemy guy power is to turn his imagination into reality.. Out of fear he imagined a monster(dragon) which was that, and touma used it to beat Alchemy guy. *fixed
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yubisaki wrote:


nightbaneundead wrote:


yubisaki wrote:


Erehe wrote:


yubisaki wrote:


Erehe wrote:


yubisaki wrote:


nightbaneundead wrote:

The Science side they have TOUMA!!! He ability is negated any not physical


Touma can only negate what he can touch... The magic side had the lady with the sword who could have choped him up into a 100 thousand pieces in a matter of a seconds or prolonged it and played around with him some more... his negate ability is amazing but its incredibly limited, but if he can't match speeds with the attack its useless... cut off his arm and he's useless, like alchemy guy did.. he was unlucky that Touma found out the trick


I have to disagree, His fighting skill covers up that weakness, Touma might appear weak in the anime but he packs a punch in the manga, to the point that magic users have amplify their Physical abilities just to beat him.


I haven't read past cp 6-8 in the manga but it looks like most of the magic user's in the series stick to, close to mid-range fighting and don't use any guardians when fighting (a quick example negima and his pactio handlers), mages first off aren't front line material so it gives him a advantage from the beginning (styx or what was his name was rather cocky which is why he was beaten and I've yet to see a rematch) even with alchemy guy he had to be told a hint to win.. he needs hints to win most of his battles... I dont know about later bosses but against well experienced fighters like(sword girl) he'll die without much effort.. He as he is now in the anime is weak, (if the ppl he fought up to now hadn't "all" held back he would have died awhile ago).

On a further note is styx(please correct if wrong TT_TT) had used his summon guardian and attacked from one side continuously while getting to the opposite side and attacked with another spell (a pincer attack) touma would have lost. He can only stop what he can block but its limited to only his right hand, he cant handle multiple simultaneous attacks.


Apparently, He can spot his opponent's weakness before they really deal a critical damage against him, The only persons he's having a hard time against are the "Saints"(Equivalent to the Science side's "Awakened" ones) which gain a huge boost on their Physical ability, This highlights his weakness since he may have a great mind that can analyze he's opponent's weakness directly, but he can't go against those who are truly powered physically.


His biggest weakness is that he can only block one attack at a time and he's immobilized during that time... There's also the fact he can't handle a melee experienced combatant... And without the enemies weakness he's unable to go on the offensive.


That is true but what happen to touma when his hand got chop off and what is the thing appear in place of his hand.


That wasn't Touma's power that was Accelerator's... Touma messed with his head.. Accelerator's power is to turn his imagination into reality.. Out of fear he imagined a monster(dragon) which was that, and touma used it to beat Accelerator.


I though that is the alchemy guy's power. Not Accelerator's. Isn't Accelerator's power is to reverse anything.
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nightbaneundead wrote:


yubisaki wrote:


nightbaneundead wrote:


yubisaki wrote:


Erehe wrote:


yubisaki wrote:


Erehe wrote:


yubisaki wrote:


nightbaneundead wrote:

The Science side they have TOUMA!!! He ability is negated any not physical


Touma can only negate what he can touch... The magic side had the lady with the sword who could have choped him up into a 100 thousand pieces in a matter of a seconds or prolonged it and played around with him some more... his negate ability is amazing but its incredibly limited, but if he can't match speeds with the attack its useless... cut off his arm and he's useless, like alchemy guy did.. he was unlucky that Touma found out the trick


I have to disagree, His fighting skill covers up that weakness, Touma might appear weak in the anime but he packs a punch in the manga, to the point that magic users have amplify their Physical abilities just to beat him.


I haven't read past cp 6-8 in the manga but it looks like most of the magic user's in the series stick to, close to mid-range fighting and don't use any guardians when fighting (a quick example negima and his pactio handlers), mages first off aren't front line material so it gives him a advantage from the beginning (styx or what was his name was rather cocky which is why he was beaten and I've yet to see a rematch) even with alchemy guy he had to be told a hint to win.. he needs hints to win most of his battles... I dont know about later bosses but against well experienced fighters like(sword girl) he'll die without much effort.. He as he is now in the anime is weak, (if the ppl he fought up to now hadn't "all" held back he would have died awhile ago).

On a further note is styx(please correct if wrong TT_TT) had used his summon guardian and attacked from one side continuously while getting to the opposite side and attacked with another spell (a pincer attack) touma would have lost. He can only stop what he can block but its limited to only his right hand, he cant handle multiple simultaneous attacks.


Apparently, He can spot his opponent's weakness before they really deal a critical damage against him, The only persons he's having a hard time against are the "Saints"(Equivalent to the Science side's "Awakened" ones) which gain a huge boost on their Physical ability, This highlights his weakness since he may have a great mind that can analyze he's opponent's weakness directly, but he can't go against those who are truly powered physically.


His biggest weakness is that he can only block one attack at a time and he's immobilized during that time... There's also the fact he can't handle a melee experienced combatant... And without the enemies weakness he's unable to go on the offensive.


That is true but what happen to touma when his hand got chop off and what is the thing appear in place of his hand.


That wasn't Touma's power that was Accelerator's... Touma messed with his head.. Accelerator's power is to turn his imagination into reality.. Out of fear he imagined a monster(dragon) which was that, and touma used it to beat Accelerator.


I though that is the alchemy guy's power. Not Accelerator's. Isn't Accelerator's power is to reverse anything.


Soo sorry i got the names mixed up >_< the only ppl's names i remember are Index(her name is index enough of a reason) and Touma(the same name as a character from a game, I played a hile back, that i liked) ill fix it
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That is ok. I also forget the alchemy guy's name.
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If i had to choose 1,MagiC!
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That is ok. I also forget the alchemy guy's name.


It's Aureolus Izzard.

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lol so many explantions! Touma is on the debating list ><! I wonder if whats his future is going to be lol xD!! Well I wish he had more experience in hand to hand combat so he can at least stand his ground against melee fighters without relying on his power to much =X.... that would be great! =D
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Science im with the science
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Every science on high unough level is magic.

I go for science
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i'd go for science btw Toma Kamijyo isn't Science nor Magic do to the fact if he did have magic or science hes delete the power b4 get gets it
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i'd go for science btw Toma Kamijyo isn't Science nor Magic do to the fact if he did have magic or science hes delete the power b4 get gets it


In any case, lets all put Touma Neutral for now.
Since he is fighting aganist both sides.
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