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Police Officer suspended for doing his Job
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Forgive me for starting two threads back to back like this, but the topics came to me at roughly the same time. Also, yes, it's contriverisal. So please, be mature. If you don't want to hear peoples opinions, or plan to come on here cussing at people like a child, then just don't bother to read or post in this thread! Please be mature. Or at least attempt to be...

Okay, basically I was watching the late night news and they played this video of a woman driving at more than twice the speed limit. She sped wildly into a hospital parking lot where there were emergency vehicles, injured and sick pedestrians, and medical equipment that could have easily been damaged as a result of her recklessness. Naturally she was pulled over by a police officer. She stopped the car and began to frantically scream that her father had a heart-attack and she needed to see him. The police officer told her she would have to do so lawfully, and that he had to give her a ticket. As a person I don’t know that I would have acted like that. It would have been against my personal morals. However, police are paid and trained to enforce the law, not their personal idea of justice. Besides that, if the woman had smashed through my sick dad trying to get to her sick dad I would have sued a few people! The police for failing to protect the public!

Anyway, the police officer walks over to his car or something to get his ticket book. As he does the woman tries to speed off but is forced to a halt. The officer tells her to step out of the car. She refuses shouting that she had an emergency and had to see her father. That he had a heart-attack. She repeats these things time and again, yells at the officer. Frustrated the officer says, “Well you broke the law, so you get to go to jail instead of see your father. That’s what happens when you break the law.” She shouts at him and starts to try and drive off again. Quick on his feet the man grabs her and forcibly drags her out of the vehicle. She doesn’t give -too- much struggle, and he quickly cuffs her. He’s not exactly brutal, but she’s squirming so he does use his strength.

So what happened to him? He was suspended for five days for “excessive force.” This isn’t a big punishment, but I mean come on! He was doing his job! That idiotic woman let her own emotional rashness cloud her judgments! She endangered countless people who were also on their way to the hospital; moreover, she broke the law twice and attempted to do it a third time!

Some lady e-mailed the station saying, “The jerk got off easy! He should have been fired! His badge gave him an oversized ego! He’s supposed to be protecting us, not battering us around!” She continued to insult him vehemently on a personal level. At first I was disgusted, but figured she was as welcome to her opinion as I was to mine. Especially sense I myself am on an extreme side of the matter.

What’s your opinion? Maybe we can get some good debate on the matter…?
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The cop was being a dick.

Look at the facts. The lady was in the hospital parking lot yelling to the cop that her dad had a heart attack. How hard would it have been for the cop to figure out if it was the truth?

Also I think it's perfectly fine to completely break the law in that way when it's a true emergency. I heard that lady on the radio saying that she was worried that would be the last time she saw her dad alive. I've been in a car during a real emergency (pregnant woman who's water just broke) and I fucking FLEW down the freeway to the hospital. Two cops were chasing me the whole way and they were cool when they found out the situation. But this guy was just being a prick.

He lost his cool and in my opinion he should be let go. Cops CANT loose their cool to the point where they don't realize the situation.
Posted 5/4/07
I'm with Killar. The cop was being a prick. He could have handled it a lot better. I'm not saying he was totally wrong, I'm just saying he was being a dick about it all.
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The lady totally over-reacted. There's no emergency, as her father was already in hospital care right? She needs to calm the fuck down and take some chill pills.

EDIT: More evidence to support my belief that chicks shouldn't be allowed to drive.
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It would have been better if the police had listened to her story, given her some time to calm down. If he so desperately wanted to reprimand her, he should have waited till after she had seen her father. =/
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Officers are instructed to stop people who are speeding. There is no room to get personally involved. As much as I love the policemen who will see me speeding, and then let me slide by with a warning because I eloquently talk in admiration of them, they’re failing to do their job.

The law itself should be enforced, not an individual officers view of justice. I think the officer was an asshole for talking to her like that, taunting her and thus exacerbating things, but none the less he was only doing his job. You say a police officer can’t loose his cool? Well, I counter that a driver cannot loose his/her cool. When you get behind a wheel you take my life, the life of my baby sister, and my mother in your own hand.

Anyway, it’s true. Once the woman got there she wouldn’t have been able to see her father anyway. He was in the ER and she would have been denied access to see him. Besides, what the hell could she have done to prevent his dying?

Also, how the hell should the officer know if she’s lying or not. I once got in a fist fight and got my ass kicked. My buddy loaded my up in his car and proceeded to speed, because he’s got road rage, back to his house. I was bloodied up, but it was one of those things where you look bad but are in fine condition. He got pulled over. We used the excuse that I had been in an accident and needed to get to the hospital. Of course we were lying, and now that I’ve matured a bit I see the error of my actions, but none the less we got out of a ticket. People use those excused all the time.

Okay, I’m still rushing but, Ngox, he tried to give her time to calm down as he walked back to his patrol car. She sped off. When he caught her she tried to speed off again. It makes me mad that any radio station would view her side of the story but not his. I feel bad for the woman, but the officer was just doing what he was ordered to do.

Honestly, I think the solution to this problem is police escorts. I don’t know about the rest of the world but here when there was an emergency of this nature (or of a pregnant woman in a car) police would drive in front and behind you with sirens blazing. Now, you’re on your own. I hate that they’ve taken that away because under certain circumstances people are cornered and feel they have little choice. I myself would have acted similarly to her. (Like I said, on a personal level, if I were the cop I would have let her go. But I would have been wrong because police are social servants.) Alright g2g, more later.
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Wow. Amazing story, each side was wrong and right in ways but im not even sure there either of them was 100% right or 100% wrong, the police officer was doing his job and the lady had a serious emergency, she shouldnt have tried to speed off again like she did, but there was no need for the amount of force the officer used, i think the woman probably shouldve gotten off with a warning at most and so shouldve the officer. But i just can't decide who is right and who is wrong.
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A find that the officer was just doing his job, and that the woman's reaction was rather extreme. Even if her father is in the hospital, her recklessness could have indanger not only her life, but the lives of others.

I wonder if they train policemen in psychology, that would help. He probably would have been able to or at least tried to calm the woman down.

Opinion: Women can get so emotional at times.
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Police officer was being gay .. there is a time when laws have to be broken, laws aren't universal and the police officer should have taken the woman's feelings into account. The best thing he could have done in this situation was to driver her to the hospital himself and given her a ticket too for driving like a retard.
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I find the officer did the right thing.
I mean come on, if he lets her drive like nuts, then how many people will get hurt? Okay, so her dad had a heart attack and she's speeding off like a maniac, won't she get into an accident and hurt more people? If she does get away with speeding without getting into an accident, will it cause her dad's health back? Remember people, her father had a heart attack meaning he's probably UNconscious.
Posted 5/5/07
I think that they were both wrong in ways. I can understand the woman's point of view, but her father was probably in no condition to see her anyway, and even if he was, she was hysterical, and wouldn't help the situation at all. The cop could've handled the situation better and tried to calm her down more, but he did the right thing in stopping a dangerous driver in the area around a hospital especially.
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I think the cop was in the right, She did break the law it doesnt matter why, its not like her dad was in the car with her then I could sympathize with her

and her aruging with him was further delaying her going to see her father she shouldve just shut up took the ticket and been done with it

thats shady that he got even got five days

if she wouldve continued driving like a beast and hit someone then he would have been repremanded for not stopping her then ppl would be bitching about him not doing his job...

and her acting like a tard has nothing to do with her being a woman, women arent more emotional then men we just express different emotions then men in different ways...


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well, i would like to see the situation first and say my opinion back ...
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The woman was obviously hysterical. I'm not complementing her for it, but the cop could have been a little more "human" about. Yeah, 5 days to think about what a dick you are.
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