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Do you feel that religion is dangerous? What about atheism? There are many people who would condemn either one of these ideologies, but what’s your opinion? Personally, I don’t think either one is particularly dangerous by itself. However, I think that any form of mass scale and organized ideology can become a threat.

Perhaps a perfect example of this comes in the French Revolution. In pursuit of “Lady Reason,” the rebels not only obliterated a corrupt monarchy (executing King Louis, murdering his wife and kids, and literally mutilating his court) they also massacred countless myriads of innocent people.

Even after capturing their nation and gaining power they were not happy. In pursuit of “Lady Reason,” they attacked Christianity. They raided churches and slaughtered worshipers. Priests were drowned in lakes. Anybody who tried to defend the church was labeled a traitor to the cause and executed. 12,000 were executed without a trial. 17,000 more were executed with a trail. An even greater number of ‘traitors,’ were imprisoned and died in the dungeons.

A still greater number were slaughtered in the streets. The deaths caused by this war were not limited to killings. The war also caused the spread of disease. Hundreds of thousands of Europeans perished from small pox during the French Revolution.

Seeing the nation in peril Prussia, Austria, and Briton also attacked France causing more deaths. All of this was caused not by religion but anti-religious sentiments and politics.

What're your opinions?
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Religion and atheism by themselves aren't threats, if they were then every single person who fell under those categories (i.e the whole world) would be killing each other. The only thing that is dangerous are the ignorant people who use their beliefs to justify violent actions, or who blame all of the problems on other people's beliefs rather than the people themselves, like in the scenario you described.
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is atheism not believing in anything? what about agnostic?
my religious views are pretty much undefined...
i do believe there is a higher power, but not sure exactly who what when how.....so im going to stick with that. =]
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What exactly constitutes as danger? If we were to define danger as a perishing of individuals, then all things different can be understood as danger. Be it religion/atheism, obesity/anorexia, or even coke/pepsi. Differences cause hostility, and hostility leads to destruction.

But if we were then to deviate from that definition and instead call danger a cease of progression, the very sameness that leads to peace becomes the most dangerous thing imaginable.

In our minds, we would like to consider ourselves or our race an infinite continuation, then a third danger can be defined as a loss of equilibrium which allows for that continuation. If such is the case, then moderation becomes the clear choice of actions to preserve that delicate balance.

In your examples, history has demonstrated the perishing of large groups of individuals due to different ideas, but that is a natural occurrence. The strong survive while the weak perish. Not to mention is it an excellent form of population control if we look at it from the perspective of a continued equilibrium and consider our overpopulation.

Atheism and religion, just like any other differences people have will undoubtedly be a cause for something, but it cannot be considered universally dangerous, nothing can.
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i hate politics....
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Christianity puts people in such fear of many things today in the world. Some extremists will treat other humans beings as less than them simply because they are doing something that is "against God's word". I'm not just speaking for people of a different sexual orientation, I'm also speaking for those who listen to rock and different genres of it (or better known to most Christians as The Devil's Music). And whatever happened to separation of church and state? Slowly more Religious beliefs are rules are being taken to heart and even people who don't believe in Christianity or are of another faith have to abide by these rules. This could potentially turn into something dangerous depending on how many more people continue to shove Christianity down other people's throats.
Posted 12/31/08
Atheism is the belief in nothing and denial of everything. Religion is the belief in something and denial of everything else. There both stupid, and both present their own dangers.

Religion gives you persecution, genocide, segregation, and helps make idiots bend to your will.

Atheism's can bring about anarchy.
Posted 1/21/09
What's wrong with Anarchy? At least it'd be entertaining XD

I'm agnostic. You can prove/disprove supernatural being. Logic for the win.
Posted 1/21/09
Religion is dangerous indeed.

Religion is/was fine as being a set of rules on how to create a society with some kinda order and mutual respect for eachother. Back then religion was also guide on everyday life. For instance, eating pork is banned in Islam, probably as pork may contain certain diseases and parasites. Stuff like that served a purpose.

However, some places religions today religion is used as a way of controlling and holding people down, as well as brainwashing people.
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It seems to me that either one becomes really dangerous when a leader tries to convince others to do bad things related to the ideology. Theres nothing wrong if I worship God, but if some crazy leader convinces me to kill people who think otherwise so I can have virgins in heaven it becomes another story.
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dmitsuki wrote:

Atheism is the belief in nothing and denial of everything. Religion is the belief in something and denial of everything else. There both stupid, and both present their own dangers.

Religion gives you persecution, genocide, segregation, and helps make idiots bend to your will.

Atheism's can bring about anarchy.


First of all, atheists do not deny everything. A religion is not everything.
Second, religion brought false sense of security that is ideal for having self confidence to people who are not as good in coping as you. Maybe just the same but believed what their mothers told them,
Third, your statement about religion is ignorant.
Fourth, atheism does not bring anarchy, it is the people, whether religious or not, who brings chaos. Defining people by their belief is just bigotry.
Fifth, religion does not necessarily make idiots. religious people are at least able to be themselves and believe to what they want, unlike people who just go about and rant about other people's belief. No wonder some of them believe that people with religion and people without religion causes anarchy. Stupid ignorance.
Sixth, there is no doubt that people killed other people because of faith, does that make atheists anarchist? No, it does not explain anything about Atheists being chaos-bringers.
Seventh, your post is highly stupid. And stupidity can cause wars. Now, that is not a religion, is it? Nor is it atheism.
Eighth, Idiots are called idiots for a reason, do not blame religion on that matter.
Ninth, it appears that you do not realize that atheists and religious people are one of the binary categories of people. They are either religious/ half-assedly religious/a bit religious(pretty much anyone with faith) or no religion at all. But that does not make them not believe at anything. Atheists believe that God is not real; that, alone, is a belief.
Tenth, describing atheism as denial of everything makes you appear like an ignorantly stupid moron. Accusing people of denying everything is just plain bigotry.
Eleventh, Atheism does not present its own danger. Again, it is the people who does, not the belief.
Twelfth, I just want to call you a bigot. Bigot.
Posted 1/21/09

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dmitsuki wrote:

Atheism is the belief in nothing and denial of everything. Religion is the belief in something and denial of everything else. There both stupid, and both present their own dangers.

Religion gives you persecution, genocide, segregation, and helps make idiots bend to your will.

Atheism's can bring about anarchy.


First of all, atheists do not deny everything. A religion is not everything.
Second, religion brought false sense of security that is ideal for having self confidence to people who are not as good in coping as you. Maybe just the same but believed what their mothers told them,
Third, your statement about religion is ignorant.
Fourth, atheism does not bring anarchy, it is the people, whether religious or not, who brings chaos. Defining people by their belief is just bigotry.
Fifth, religion does not necessarily make idiots. religious people are at least able to be themselves and believe to what they want, unlike people who just go about and rant about other people's belief. No wonder some of them believe that people with religion and people without religion causes anarchy. Stupid ignorance.
Sixth, there is no doubt that people killed other people because of faith, does that make atheists anarchist? No, it does not explain anything about Atheists being chaos-bringers.
Seventh, your post is highly stupid. And stupidity can cause wars. Now, that is not a religion, is it? Nor is it atheism.
Eighth, Idiots are called idiots for a reason, do not blame religion on that matter.
Ninth, it appears that you do not realize that atheists and religious people are one of the binary categories of people. They are either religious/ half-assedly religious/a bit religious(pretty much anyone with faith) or no religion at all. But that does not make them not believe at anything. Atheists believe that God is not real; that, alone, is a belief.
Tenth, describing atheism as denial of everything makes you appear like an ignorantly stupid moron. Accusing people of denying everything is just plain bigotry.
Eleventh, Atheism does not present its own danger. Again, it is the people who does, not the belief.
Twelfth, I just want to call you a bigot. Bigot.

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Posted 1/23/09
religion is dangerous. cause it speaks of peace (stuff like that) but it ends up causing war.
you should not fuck with religion, it'll just kill you.

atheism is against christianity right? and agnostic is believing in nothing.


right?
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chelseabel wrote:

atheism is against christianity right? and agnostic is believing in nothing.


right?


Atheism isn't against any religion, that's anti-theism. Atheism is the lack of belief in a deity, agnosticism is the belief that we can never truly know if there is or isn't a higher power.
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2 Peter 3:3 - 7 "First of all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come scoffing and following their own evil desires. They will say, Where is this 'coming' he promised? Ever since our fathers died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation. But they deliberately forget that long ago by God's word the heavens existed and the earth was formed out of water and by water. By the same waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed. By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men."
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