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Posted 1/2/09
Screw that....Its a god damn JOB these people are doing, so perfect results are expected no matter the circumstances..I dont care if they're subbing a full season in one night, just make sure the subs are understandable and with the right timing..These same assholes are trying to kill off fansubbing, the same fan subs we have been feeding off of for years..Try to be the least bit appreciative.
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Yea i agree!
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DomFortress wrote:


st4b wrote:


DomFortress wrote:


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rinyuzu wrote:

please lock if this is a dup

I have no right to complain I now that this new thing is going to help crunchyroll and have more anime as soon as there is more anime on but I just tried to watch some anime and well the subs just sucked like it was of timeing and some were left blank I hate to say this but the fansubber do alot better than people who sit at a an office and get paid to subs this


There's something called deadline and people constantly monitoring/pressuring you when your actually working in the Anime industry compare to fansubbers who have an infinite amount of time to do their fansubbing.

Just wait as time passes the quality of their subtitles might improve.


your point would be relevant if it had to do with animes that were just coming out, but these are with titles that were already available to the US public :/

like chrno crusade and such.

And just how are the official English subtitles of Chrono Crusade being bad, care for a demonstration?


it may not entirely be the fault of the subbers. but the soft subtitles itself.

i've did a bit of sampling with the new animes and it seems all the new uploads have the same problem.

lines are skipped and not subtitled at all and some of the time they don't line up at all.

So now the problem is with the encoding, well what can you expect, they are animators, not encoders.

Now if those internet fansub groups can stop stealing from the anime creators, and instead help them with the encoding, wouldn't that be a much better way to support the anime industry, as oppose to competing with them using illegitimate fansubs made of stolen properties.

Seems DomFortress, as usual, is so eager to impress people with his crusade, he'll come up with lame reasons and then say others can't keep up with his arguments.

How do you think the animators (the production company) managed to bring the products to the public? Yes, they have to encode the animations. They have to be very knowledgeable in the timings as well or the voices will not be in sync. If there's any problems with the subtitles, they're obviously not giving them the care they deserved. So bad subtitling is still bad subtitling no matter how you look at it.

Get off your pedestal since I doubt many if anyone, except for yourself, are impressed with what you have to say.
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Posted 1/2/09
pfft... as the internet is, there will ALWAYS be another site, no exceptions, i watch my fan subbed, illegal, awesome anime elsewhere now... its unfortunate that cr had to become this, but as for my self sufficient entertainment, id rather free illegal greatness, than expensive legal crap
Posted 1/2/09
Sadly I'm disappointed with the subs... who knows maybe it will improve or not... but for the meantime Crunchy is just another site I visit just because of the forums... MOTs Rule!
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Posted 1/2/09

andydono wrote:


rinyuzu wrote:

please lock if this is a dup

I have no right to complain I now that this new thing is going to help crunchyroll and have more anime as soon as there is more anime on but I just tried to watch some anime and well the subs just sucked like it was of timeing and some were left blank I hate to say this but the fansubber do alot better than people who sit at a an office and get paid to subs this


There's something called deadline and people constantly monitoring/pressuring you when your actually working in the Anime industry compare to fansubbers who have an infinite amount of time to do their fansubbing.

Just wait as time passes the quality of their subtitles might improve.


Deadlines aren't a good excuse for shoddy work though, for example if i was swamped with school work and i turn in a poorly written report i can't just say my report sucks because i was on a deadline so give me an A anyways.
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Posted 1/2/09
Congraulation! you engrish get! this is what happens when japanese anime companies subtitle their products for us. Those companies are better at drawing, not translating or timing phrases. Thats why products are liscensed. they take care of that so we get and awesome anime. we will have to get used to these things, Also us as fans we have become too overdemanding!
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Posted 1/2/09
I must admit, the subtitles are not good...lucky there are other means of getting it. Like getting the DVDs and re-encoding the subtitles or redoing them altogether...
Luckily there is time to waste, internet apps to use and such...stop complaining...
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Yes I've noticed the timing on some of the new subs are off as well, and sometimes a chara speaks and there is no sub for what they said. Or the subs do not stay up long enough to be read. I noticed this in all of the Zaion eps, and the first 2 episodes of Chrono Crusade. Those where the ones I saw so far. I tried disabling the soft subs then restarting them but no luck.
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Yes I've noticed the timing on some of the new subs are off as well, and sometimes a chara speaks and there is no sub for what they said. Or the subs do not stay up long enough to be read. I noticed this in all of the Zaion eps, and the first 2 episodes of Chrono Crusade. Those where the ones I saw so far. I tried disabling the soft subs then restarting them but no luck.
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Posted 1/2/09
ugh...sorry for the double post.
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Posted 1/2/09

jamesbont wrote:


Deadlines aren't a good excuse for shoddy work though, for example if i was swamped with school work and i turn in a poorly written report i can't just say my report sucks because i was on a deadline so give me an A anyways.


All I can say is give them time, once things get clear up, hopefully they'll do a better job. If it doesn't, I really can't do anything, I'm only human.
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1) DomFortress is dumb.
2) Zaion has timing issue and the subbing is somewhat incomplete and not covering all the conversation.
3) Fansubbing rulz.
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Don't make any generalizations. To my knowledge, it's the Gonzo's subs on some of their anime that sucked. The same subbers can't be subbing everyone elses anime to, so don't make it sound like all the subs suck. That's not cool, at all.

Thanks for naming the series, eventually. All gonzo series....


I watched Naruto Shippuuden and the subs were fine, actually they were better than the crappy subs over at Viz xDD
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Posted 1/2/09

antipole wrote:

1) DomFortress is dumb.
2) Zaion has timing issue and the subbing is somewhat incomplete and not covering all the conversation.
3) Fansubbing rulz.



Points 1 and 3 are a matter of opinion and take all seriousness away from point 2 nullifying you argument.
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