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Do you mostly blame parents for teenagers who become suicidal?
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^What about the Comlumbine kids Killar? What had more effect on their desisions to be assfucks? Childhoods or the others around them that supposedly pushed them over the side? They decided to be assfucks on their own, even with the added suroundings. My understanding was that they had decent houses and decent folks. They still decided to run around and be little shits. What about emos? Who kill themselves for no reason, despite a decent and modest homelife? What about people with depression who do it? Full-grown adults? People do these things on their own ultimately but it's never someone else's fault, even if they contributed. In the end, it's the decision that places the fault on the asshole.


i think of those as popular exceptions.

columbine? very popular exception. stuff like that does not happen everyday so it can't be a part of this. its more like an isolated case

even though emos are popular i truly think it's nothing more than a trend that will pass. go to any mostly black or hispanic school and count the number of emo/gothic kids. even in great neighborhoods there will be few to none. this is a product of upbringing, so i think emos are also not really a part of this. if anything they are a small exception.

depression? isn't that a psychiatric disorder? i thought we are talking about the majority not the minority. plenty of people go through depression (like my mom a few years back) and they don't kill anyone. maybe they didn't because they were taught better before it happened.

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skygod333 wrote:

^What about the Comlumbine kids Killar? What had more effect on their desisions to be assfucks? Childhoods or the others around them that supposedly pushed them over the side? They decided to be assfucks on their own, even with the added suroundings. My understanding was that they had decent houses and decent folks. They still decided to run around and be little shits. What about emos? Who kill themselves for no reason, despite a decent and modest homelife? What about people with depression who do it? Full-grown adults? People do these things on their own ultimately but it's never someone else's fault, even if they contributed. In the end, it's the decision that places the fault on the asshole.


Man just shut the fuck up.
Remember the Virginia Tech shit? Society and people surrounding him made him do that shit, not the other way around. If he was with better people, i doubt he would kill those people


Who made the decision? Society or him?
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i think the modern world has become too fast paced and complex and some people cant handle it
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You cant blame the parents for teenage suicides, thats just taking the easy rode to an explanation. There are countless examples of good parents who tryed to rase there kid right and talked to them ets who still found their kid dead, even sisters and brothers who thought they were close say they never saw it comming.

At the teenage level of development you still know better and are not a child and chose knowing full well what the consequenses would be. Talking to the kid is all well and good only if they want to talk in the first place about something bothering them and thats if they ( the parents ) feel like their kid is in a weird mood. If the kid seems fine and is acting like they allways have been then commit sucide what do you do, I mean you find out there was a problem/he or she wanted to do it too late to do anything. The kid kept it a secret so no matter how good a parent is they cant pry open the kids mind to know all thats going on.

Can parents do something yes, but only if they know whats going on and why. Besides were theres a will theres a way and if the teens determind to die by suicide they will.
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its the environment that they grew up in...and the people around it...

u can't really blame parents...even if they didn't try their best to stop them from hurting themselves and/or other ppl.

the ppl who harm ppl or themselves prob just can't take sth...they in a way hav to blame themselves for not accepting sth... but yea.. parents should care and love their children... =]
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cant blame parents not knowing theyre kids is depressed and planning to kill him/herself when theyre not looking and kid always says "IM OK" (EMO) lol
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Society has a lot to do with it. I don't think parents are a main factor, but one of many factors. School, an environment where if you're not like this you aren't worth anything or you're picked on because you don't fit a standard role, you're different. I also blame the media. For everything.
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no!!.. parents are not to be blame..
i blame the kids environment, who he/she hangs out with, and not thinking what will be the outcomwe of his/her actions... if he/she don't open up how can parents know that their sons or daughters is planning to kill themselves...
if they really want to die they should blame themselves.. they're the one who is controlling their own mind and actions not their parents...

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I had a friend who was depressed due to a chemical imbalance. One day his gf broke up with him and he shot himself in the garage.

Now, I could give all the logic in the world about his enviornment (ie the breakup) or his condition (depression) but either way, the parents do not come into the equation. Try being more broad and saying that enviornment has something to do with it as opposed to specifics like the parents, you might get a better feedback.

I think this all goes into a nature vs nurture type arguement.


skygod333 wrote:


Ichigo_O wrote:


skygod333 wrote:

^What about the Comlumbine kids Killar? What had more effect on their desisions to be assfucks? Childhoods or the others around them that supposedly pushed them over the side? They decided to be assfucks on their own, even with the added suroundings. My understanding was that they had decent houses and decent folks. They still decided to run around and be little shits. What about emos? Who kill themselves for no reason, despite a decent and modest homelife? What about people with depression who do it? Full-grown adults? People do these things on their own ultimately but it's never someone else's fault, even if they contributed. In the end, it's the decision that places the fault on the asshole.


Man just shut the fuck up.
Remember the Virginia Tech shit? Society and people surrounding him made him do that shit, not the other way around. If he was with better people, i doubt he would kill those people


Who made the decision? Society or him?


I think you guys are argueing over different things. There is a difference between who is actually responsible and what their motivation was.
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It's usually not the parents fault. I think it is more of the persons friends fault. Teens hide their problems from their parents and most parents don't even have a clue. But friends usually know, especially best friends, but the problem comes when they don't do something about it and try to help and well you know what happens after that.
Posted 12/13/07
no.i blame myself for being born.
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Posted 12/13/07
I don't think parents are the main cause
theres bullying, depression, fights with friends, stress, etc.

also, some people can hide what they feel very well so the parents won't have a clue
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Posted 12/13/07
its the teenagers fault they're defective
isn't there like 10 other threads just like this though lol
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Posted 12/13/07
Depends o the cause and details of death,simple.
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i blame parents and the environment around them. but to be honest, teenagers have to know how not to be affected by them and try to overcome it. but then (again).... how to not be affected?!?!
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