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An In-Depth Explanation & Solution On Regional Limitation
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Posted 1/6/09

darkoff wrote:


DomFortress wrote:


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DomFortress wrote:

Trust me, the solution to that problem is so simple, you'll be facepalming for the rest of the day after I told you.

Every CR streamed anime have this little feature on their sites, which will grant every CR users, on both the anime or the basic membership, the license to legally sub the anime episode: http://www.crunchyroll.com/subtitle_tos?next=createsubtitle%3Fmedia_id%3D516250%26src%3Dsm


I'll be direct;
Fansubbers do Karaoke effect on the Opening/Ending
The subtitle aren't just plain white or yellow
Fansubbers add notes for reference
Etc...

Even if we sub the video, I don't think much of us can translate it.

I actually find that a bit of an annoyance, but that's just to each of their owns.

So what if the CR users were also fansubbers. *points to self*





AnimeKami wrote:

I am a going to point this out fansubbing: subs made by a FAN.

and cr gives you the option of the USER making their subtitles and use them on the videos

isn't that FANsubbing -_-

I wouldn't call that professional subbing now would I? -_-


First at DomFortress: don't you think that is good? Ex Fansubbers subbing anime's here at CR, i wouldn't mind at all because the Fansubbers subs are damn good in my opinion.

At AnimeKami: Ofcourse it's FANsubbing, but what they fansubbers are doing is illegal (yes i have to admit i dl fansubs but on the other hand i buy the dvd's when they are out)
And the subs here at CR is not illegal

(If i'm double posting i have to beg your pardon)


no do you see the irony?
fansubs are made by fans that is 100% true

I'm saying the subs on cr are made by fans the white ones softsubs with the cr java program

The whole argument is wrong if cr is getting rid of all fansubbing then the program itself provides a plain yet fansubbed anime not a pro one made from the company
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Posted 1/6/09

holy_may wrote:


darkoff wrote:

It'd be cool if the subbing program here at CR could do Karaoke Effects on the Opening/Ending, and maybe colour them? (haven't checked the subbing "program" in a while) and add what you said, add TL notes (Translation Notes).

And for crying out loud the timing >.<

If i ever were to understand japanese Fluently (like i will in a few years/months, depending on my will power) i'd get my ass to the CR's subbing "program" and sub as much as possible, since i really can't live with the subs that is here atm,

The timing sucks
They skip lines
Etc
*Cough Chrono Crusade*

The only good thing is imo, the OP's/ED's timing -_-' (pointing at Gintama)

This is atleast what i think about this.


I personally don't watch stream, nor do I buy DVD. I can afford torrents because I got memory space. So far, i'm going to reach 2.7 To lol


Rofl, i actually spent most of my time here Streaming Anime's before i "discovered" that i could dl torrents but now im mostly dling since almost no animes are available here at CR. (Atm)
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Posted 1/6/09

AnimeKami wrote:

no do you see the irony?
fansubs are made by fans that is 100% true

I'm saying the subs on cr are made by fans the white ones softsubs with the cr java program

The whole argument is wrong if cr is getting rid of all fansubbing then the program itself provides a plain yet fansubbed anime not a pro one made from the company


That's the problem, Professional are working on series that they got no intention of watching. That's why subtitle are shit!
Posted 1/6/09

zealtron wrote:

@DomFortress:

Hmm, first time I've seen that, thank you for providing the info. -facepalm-

Hmm, so that's what my friend meant o.O. A friend of mine is trying to fix up the bad quality fansubs by the companies, or something. Though the number of members on CR that know Japanese, and are willing to spend time to sub tens or maybe hundreds of anime episodes........aren't that many I'd say

But there are those internet fansub groups, so here's a chance for them to show their stuffs legally. I would do this myself, but my focus has shifted from just fansubbing anime, to appreciating, advocating, and understanding the anime subculture.
Posted 1/6/09 , edited 1/6/09
@holy_may:

Personally I have no choice but to watch stream XD, my computer has, what 74 gigs of space total? Therefore I cant really torrent a ton of anime, as well as the fact that my patience wont last long enough for me to download them, for I am a very lazy person.

also, wth? 2.7 terabytes??


DomFortress wrote:


zealtron wrote:

@DomFortress:

Hmm, first time I've seen that, thank you for providing the info. -facepalm-

Hmm, so that's what my friend meant o.O. A friend of mine is trying to fix up the bad quality fansubs by the companies, or something. Though the number of members on CR that know Japanese, and are willing to spend time to sub tens or maybe hundreds of anime episodes........aren't that many I'd say

But there are those internet fansub groups, so here's a chance for them to show their stuffs legally. I would do this myself, but my focus has shifted from just fansubbing anime, to appreciating, advocating, and understanding the anime subculture.


well if you actually had read my post further below you'll see I basically said the same thing you just did, but in my own simple way.
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Posted 1/6/09

holy_may wrote:


darkoff wrote:


holy_may wrote:

So far, only intelligent people responded in this thread lol...

Truth to be told, I believe we can sums up all this explanation in a few sentences...


Well yeah that is true, but atleast i, when it comes to explanation i really fail at that, atleast that is what i think.


Best to keep things simple than complicated... I too ain't a big fan of long paragraph but again, some could even write of a book if they want lol


i think he is trying to compensate for the fact that he recycles the shit he say. its the same thing every time, and he really got no valid points. he was a former fansubber but hates fansubs while still watching anime thru free raws... and he never counters any1's points on anything, he jsut gives u paragraphs after paragraphs of the same thing
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Posted 1/6/09

zealtron wrote:

@holy_may:

Personally I have no choice but to watch stream XD, my computer has, what 74 gigs of space total? Therefore I cant really torrent a ton of anime, as well as the fact that my patience wont last long enough for me to download them, for I am a very lazy person.

also, wth? 2.7 terabytes??


Yep, got 2 externals 500 Gb, 1 external 1Tb, 1 external 400Gb, computer 250Gb, mp4 player 60Gb

Total 2710 GB
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Posted 1/6/09

holy_may wrote:


AnimeKami wrote:

no do you see the irony?
fansubs are made by fans that is 100% true

I'm saying the subs on cr are made by fans the white ones softsubs with the cr java program

The whole argument is wrong if cr is getting rid of all fansubbing then the program itself provides a plain yet fansubbed anime not a pro one made from the company


That's the problem, Professional are working on series that they got no intention of watching. That's why subtitle are shit!


I find the whole argument ironic: if that program doesn't go down on 1/8/09 then cr has contradicted itself the entire time.

It isn't like a pro subber can't use fansubbing programs to make better subs.

It takes 1 minute to style a whole episode maybe it doesn't look super nice but it is better than white stuff -_-
Posted 1/6/09

holy_may wrote:


zealtron wrote:

@holy_may:

Personally I have no choice but to watch stream XD, my computer has, what 74 gigs of space total? Therefore I cant really torrent a ton of anime, as well as the fact that my patience wont last long enough for me to download them, for I am a very lazy person.

also, wth? 2.7 terabytes??


Yep, got 2 externals 500 Gb, 1 external 1Tb, 1 external 400Gb, computer 250Gb, mp4 player 60Gb

Total 2710 GB


wow, all I have is

Computer 74Gb and and external 320Gb......o.O......thats a lotttttt rofl
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Posted 1/6/09

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zealtron wrote:

@DomFortress:

Hmm, first time I've seen that, thank you for providing the info. -facepalm-

Hmm, so that's what my friend meant o.O. A friend of mine is trying to fix up the bad quality fansubs by the companies, or something. Though the number of members on CR that know Japanese, and are willing to spend time to sub tens or maybe hundreds of anime episodes........aren't that many I'd say

But there are those internet fansub groups, so here's a chance for them to show their stuffs legally. I would do this myself, but my focus has shifted from just fansubbing anime, to appreciating, advocating, and understanding the anime subculture.


I can't agree more with you on this one, this atleast for just an example "Dattebayo?" (who knows they are a bunch of ignorant fucks) they will surely not do this since they are.. yeah what i just said, but i'm using it as an example, since what in my opinion is that their subs are pretty amazing so they could come here and "showoff" their fansubbing skills or even try to get hired by a Anime Company?. *Points at Gonzo*
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Posted 1/6/09

zealtron wrote:


holy_may wrote:


zealtron wrote:

@holy_may:

Personally I have no choice but to watch stream XD, my computer has, what 74 gigs of space total? Therefore I cant really torrent a ton of anime, as well as the fact that my patience wont last long enough for me to download them, for I am a very lazy person.

also, wth? 2.7 terabytes??


Yep, got 2 externals 500 Gb, 1 external 1Tb, 1 external 400Gb, computer 250Gb, mp4 player 60Gb

Total 2710 GB


wow, all I have is

Computer 74Gb and and external 320Gb......o.O......thats a lotttttt rofl :P


dvds dvds dvds *chant*

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Posted 1/6/09

holy_may wrote:


s31r31 wrote:

^ give it more time, I'm sure CR will find effecient translators soon.


The translators are supposedly Professional...

indeed they are professional but translating, not professionals in graphic design or typography.

it sucks a lot

Posted 1/6/09

AnimeKami wrote:


zealtron wrote:


holy_may wrote:


zealtron wrote:

@holy_may:

Personally I have no choice but to watch stream XD, my computer has, what 74 gigs of space total? Therefore I cant really torrent a ton of anime, as well as the fact that my patience wont last long enough for me to download them, for I am a very lazy person.

also, wth? 2.7 terabytes??


Yep, got 2 externals 500 Gb, 1 external 1Tb, 1 external 400Gb, computer 250Gb, mp4 player 60Gb

Total 2710 GB


wow, all I have is

Computer 74Gb and and external 320Gb......o.O......thats a lotttttt rofl :P


dvds dvds dvds *chant*



yeah xD, but as I said,

I am very lazy v.v, rofl, too lazy to dl torrents or even direct files and then burn them

(off-topic-ness rofl)
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Posted 1/6/09

maboroshine wrote:


holy_may wrote:


s31r31 wrote:

^ give it more time, I'm sure CR will find effecient translators soon.


The translators are supposedly Professional...

indeed they are professional but translating, not professionals in graphic design or typography.

it sucks a lot



The way they translate are usually americanized
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Posted 1/6/09

darkoff wrote:


DomFortress wrote:


zealtron wrote:

@DomFortress:

Hmm, first time I've seen that, thank you for providing the info. -facepalm-

Hmm, so that's what my friend meant o.O. A friend of mine is trying to fix up the bad quality fansubs by the companies, or something. Though the number of members on CR that know Japanese, and are willing to spend time to sub tens or maybe hundreds of anime episodes........aren't that many I'd say

But there are those internet fansub groups, so here's a chance for them to show their stuffs legally. I would do this myself, but my focus has shifted from just fansubbing anime, to appreciating, advocating, and understanding the anime subculture.


I can't agree more with you on this one, this atleast for just an example "Dattebayo?" (who knows they are a bunch of ignorant fucks) they will surely not do this since they are.. yeah what i just said, but i'm using it as an example, since what in my opinion is that their subs are pretty amazing so they could come here and "showoff" their fansubbing skills or even try to get hired by a Anime Company?. *Points at Gonzo*


DB posted a forum saying they do it on purpose for their enjoyment and said if you picked up on it give a pat to your parents for giving you a brain.
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