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why is there so many anti-fan of snsd???
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because they look innocent yet there evil 0_o
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morningcalm wrote:

One word, jealousy. Most SNSD antis are girls, ugly girls, with no talent, and no life. They gather in their hovels distorting pictures to hide their own ugliness. Little do they know though, that maligning SNSD isn't going to raise their self-esteem and stop the fat jokes.

Long live SNSD.


That was quite mean of you to say that... Everyone is beautiful in their own way... Ugliness DOESN'T exist

And most anti-fans only hate SNSD through their fans because some and certain SNSD fans are idiots...
Posted 6/21/09

morningcalm wrote:


marumo-kun wrote:


morningcalm wrote:

One word, jealousy. Most SNSD antis are girls, ugly girls, with no talent, and no life. They gather in their hovels distorting pictures to hide their own ugliness. Little do they know though, that maligning SNSD isn't going to raise their self-esteem and stop the fat jokes.

Long live SNSD.


Someone's obsessed



Truth hurts. Live with it.

The funny thing is, I'm not even that big of an SNSD fan. I only like SNSD because of two of their songs. Kissing You and GEE. I don't even know all of their names or how many albums they have out. But I saw them in some Korean variety show and they all seem down to earth and funny.

Seriously, you should either love a group or be indifferent to it. You can't hate it. That's just stupid. You have no reason to hate a group you've never met. If people are honestly devoting a portion of their life to malign a group they've never met and never will, they need to get their priorities straight. Talk about just plain pathetic.

The sad thing is, most antis hate SNSD because of one or two members. So with their dumbass logic, they feel they should attack the entire group because they don't approve of a specific member. It's like, "Duh... I'm going to like so hate SNSD because I'm not pretty like Tiffany and uhmm, like, I'm a douchebag. But so I won't seem shallow, I'm just going to pretend like I have a legit reason to hate on SNSD."


I see. Well then i apologize for my post.
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well this is some reasons why snsd have so many anti fans

Behind the Scenes at the 2008 Dream Concert!


The most significant issue on the Dream Concert 2008, which has already been reported in the forum, was the “Silent Treatment” of all the present fan clubs towards SNSD members and fans! For the first time ever in the history of KPOP (as far as we know) all the present fanclubs in the concert boycotted a single group: Girls Generation (SNSD)!

During the SNSD performance, other fanclubs remained silent and turned off their light sticks .. this only left the SNSD fanclub cheering for their group, making SNSD’s official color pink as the only visible color in the stands!


Before SNSD performance


During & After SNSD performance


Fans Boycotting SNSD at Dream Concert 2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLxu37c1Tmk

The reason?
Was it this girl Tiffany’s fault?

The one who is hated the most in the group?
The one who doesn’t stand a chance to NOT disrespect her seniors in the name of being raised in the U.S. and unfamiliar with the Korean culture? The one who puts down her own group by messing up the dance moves intentionally to grab attention to herself or make fun of respectful singers only to embarrasses the whole entire group in public?


because this is the girl who couldn’t even stop seeking for attention even on the red carpet before the concert that day! appearing in the shortest skirt and making a ridiculous pose, trying to stand out, making you speechless in return!

But NO! It’s not! That is not the ONLY reason!
We are doing a thorough researched based post on the reason’s behind the event shortly! But for now we would like to share insights of noonoo_shoo the person who wrote the lst post’s article on the event. Some like noonoo_shoo believe some of the reasons might lie in the unfair marketing plans of SNSD by SM and such. This is not the only reason but prepares you for what we are going to present you later!
——————————————————————————————–
The dream concert happenings fell into a cycle of things in such a short time, it started off as sheer amusement of the boycotting and silencing of fans, I couldn’t help but laugh ….

Then I saw what SNSD fans did to the Super Junior banner!
During the SuperJunior performance (Before SNSD performance) some number of SNSD fanboys ran toward the Super Junior Banners and ripped them apart, right in front of the ELF and SuperJunior on stage!

Evidence?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ds9sB_K4VY


9
Jun
Behind the Scenes at the 2008 Dream Concert!
posted by tealfirestar07 Artist Under: K-Entertainment, Sonyeo Shidae

The most significant issue on the Dream Concert 2008, which has already been reported in the forum, was the “Silent Treatment” of all the present fan clubs towards SNSD members and fans! For the first time ever in the history of KPOP (as far as we know) all the present fanclubs in the concert boycotted a single group: Girls Generation (SNSD)!

During the SNSD performance, other fanclubs remained silent and turned off their light sticks .. this only left the SNSD fanclub cheering for their group, making SNSD’s official color pink as the only visible color in the stands!

Before SNSD performance

During & After SNSD performance

Fans Boycotting SNSD at Dream Concert 2008

The reason?
Was it this girl Tiffany’s fault?

The one who is hated the most in the group?
The one who doesn’t stand a chance to NOT disrespect her seniors in the name of being raised in the U.S. and unfamiliar with the Korean culture? The one who puts down her own group by messing up the dance moves intentionally to grab attention to herself or make fun of respectful singers only to embarrasses the whole entire group in public?

because this is the girl who couldn’t even stop seeking for attention even on the red carpet before the concert that day! appearing in the shortest skirt and making a ridiculous pose, trying to stand out, making you speechless in return!

But NO! It’s not! That is not the ONLY reason!
We are doing a thorough researched based post on the reason’s behind the event shortly! But for now we would like to share insights of noonoo_shoo the person who wrote the lst post’s article on the event. Some like noonoo_shoo believe some of the reasons might lie in the unfair marketing plans of SNSD by SM and such. This is not the only reason but prepares you for what we are going to present you later!
——————————————————————————————–
The dream concert happenings fell into a cycle of things in such a short time, it started off as sheer amusement of the boycotting and silencing of fans, I couldn’t help but laugh ….

Then I saw what SNSD fans did to the Super Junior banner!
During the SuperJunior performance (Before SNSD performance) some number of SNSD fanboys ran toward the Super Junior Banners and ripped them apart, right in front of the ELF and SuperJunior on stage!

Evidence?

I guess the fans retaliated because they didn’t want to take things lying down, since their mostly boys it sorta makes sense, although i must add that real men know when to admit defeat and take things on the chin. Yes, they admittedly dampened the celebrations, cos I do really love suju for their passion, for their personalities, dudes entertain me and i like em.

That wasn’t enough I had to go and read the comments on the soompi thread (sometimes i hate soompi for the idiots there) and got bloody pissed off.

This was done because of SNSD, why? Because these girls ARE rookies, they have NO respect for their sunbaes (seniors) they just jump around like their the popular girls in high school. And seriously, does the movie “mean Girls” not pop up when you think of a reality show in their dorms?

There are plenty of reasons WHY fans are so pissed off, because believe it or not idiot soshi fans your so called STARS are riding on their seniors coat-tails of success, where some have worked hard, they have gained without effort. Where some have spent endless hours perfecting routines, perfecting songs, they get number 1 by kissing lollipops. Anything SNSD have “gained” is because of who paved the way ahead of them, and its not like their walking their path, no, their traipsing around all bouncy showing their panties to the world. How are we supposed to respect them, want them to succeed, how can self-respecting fans clap and cheer for them knowing that they’ve been born in to the world of showbiz with silver spoons and bought awards??? its sickening.

Cassiopeias are pissed off for more reasons but they’re mostly pissed due to the fact that most of the attention they are getting is by them associating themselves with the boys, by saying they trained with them, they’re friends, by appearing in Commercials with them, by making them look close and happy. Are they really that close?? my money is on no, actually I take that back, my money is on HELL NO. The Dbsg boys trained immensely hard for years to get where they are, they’re overworked, sleep deprived and are still passionate about what they do. They were taken at the height of their fame and thrown in japan where they became nobodies. They gained so much humility, respect for themselves and fans, experience and wisdom some stars get after decades of work. They built themselves up again even through such hardships and extreme homesickness. Its not difficult to respect them. They’re personalities alone are enough to get them far, but their hard work, passion, talent and perseverance can only make them go farther. Yet, SNSD with no said talent, not much passion, no personality get popular just by being under the same label, training and being put in scandals with them. Piss take, dontchathink?

ELF are angry because of almost the same thing. They have suffered for a long time because of the sub group business, SM doesn’t take them seriously and SNSD instead of getting their own gigs, feed off of their oppas. SUJU took a while to catch on and be seen as such good MCs, DJs and guests, they had to be recognized and accepted in the industry to be where they are. But what happens with SNSD, they just put them in the boiling pot with them, I swear when SNSD came out, i was like what the hell is going on, is SM putting in a buy one group get one free offer on Suju and SNSD??? FAVORITISM IS ONE OF THE LARGEST ISSUES.

also, boybands like SS501 feel the pain of cassi and elf, SS501 had gone through so much only to stay in the industry, a place that you can only make it if you are from SM, JYP or YG~ ok, they can argue but as i said in another post, die hard fans feel for each other, because they know how hard it is to break in to the business for their stars, the difficulty they had to face, the criticism from the public and th harsher criticism from themselves. SO when Tiffany claimed she liked the leader of ss501 before debut, it was almost like, ITS NOT BAD ENOUGH YOUR MOOCHING OFF THE SM BOYS NOW YOU WANT DSP.

Is it so hard to work your ass off to be recognized for your talent, unless of course you don’t have one, then you have to milk other artists on your label and others. they take advantage of other peoples popularity or popular news, Yoona saying Andy was her ideal man when all eyes were on Solbi and Andy as a couple??

Good god realize this, this isn’t just a punch in the face to your noonas you crazy fanthugs, its a personal insult to the artists and the fans that they got everything from doing and having nothing. I will never respect SNSD unless they spend years working hard in the industry proving their talented, their professional and well-intentioned. And i can rest assured it wont happen, because fame is their only driving power and they will never stop being those stereotyped high school giggly girls that you want to avoid.

Also, SM needs to take note that talent is something a group needs to gain popularity, not just a pair of unseemly legs.
——————————————————————————————-

There are many behind the scene issues of happened at the night of the concert that never got the light of the day through the media coverage! In this post we are trying to bring out points to make you familiar with the reason behind the act as much as possible also a short recap of what went on at the event!

The Dream Concert held on June 7 was delayed for 20 minutes because there were too many fans trying to get in at once.

On this day, there were no security guards and concert organizers to be seen in the stands to ensure the safety and cooperation of fans. There was only supposed to be a crowd of 35,000 concert goers, but 50,000 fans showed up trying to get in. Many were buying expensive tickets that went for $500 or more. This so called ‘Dream Concert’ was set for disaster.



Problems arose when a stadium that only fits 35,000 people tried to accommodate 50,000 instead and fans started fighting for good seats. This was particularly the case when SUJU fans and SNSD fans started pushing and shoving, using violence to get seats - turning the ‘dream’ concert into a nightmare. You can obviously see in the pictures that fans are being pushed off the railings to fall.

However, the very first reports we read on the actual fight between the fanclubs is actually from days before the concert! where SNSD fans been fighting with other fanclubs on the concert message boards! It’s reports that SNSD fans were very rude to the other Fanclubs online and even went as far as telling them to boycott SNSD beforehand because they said SNSD doesn’t need anyone’s support. This may explain the fact when they even initiated the fight during the SuperJunior performance (Before SNSD performance) and some SNSD fanboys ran toward the SuperJunior Banners are ripped off the SUJU banners right in front of the ELF!


and what SNSD fans think about it? Here is one …

[email protected] June 8, 2008 at 10:40 am when I saw that video of ELF crying like some animals about to be slaughtered I don’t feel a sh*t for them (I laughed actually). you know why?? because those are the same FC that harassed and in the end caused a girl to commit suicide because of a trivial matter! that should make them cry, not their freaking banners being torn!! Cassiopean are the same! these 2 FC bring bad name to Korean music fans!

Even thought the “Silence Treatment” was planned a few days ahead …

we even heard the rumors about it! But SNSD fans kept on adding oil to the fire!

There is also news coming that after the “Silence Treatment” SNSD fans left the stadium when SUJU and DBSK were performing (this was confirmed by many fan accounts … it not a rumour!) only to disturb the other fanclub members. There are many reports of SNSD fanboys threats and physical attacks, stabbing by knife and even rape by to female members of other fanclub!

Fan account: I went with a friend but we sat separately. I’m a Triple but she’s a Cassie. Suddenly I get a call from my friend who was crying and telling me that she was scared. While she was going to the restroom, she saw a Cassie who was being beaten up by boys holding pink balloons…and she told me it was on the level of gang violence. Among the Triples there was also news of being beaten by Soshi fans!

The situation was so frightening that Security asked everyone to walk in pairs!
According to fan accounts, other fan lclub members were beaten up by SNSD fanboys - some had their hair ripped out, raped, stabbed with a knife and had broken legs, and were taken to the hospital.
The news that is being reported now is very minor on these events and they are purposely leaving out these isolated incidents.

Evidence?
http://www.nakorean.com/news/articleView.html?idxno=7898


Here is a pic of a SNSD fan who had a knife with him. It was one of those swiss knives
The deal was that this person was waving around the knife but he took it out of his pocket and was constantly sharpening his knife in front of alarmed Cassie fans he also threatened them to treat them while on the way home!

One girl broke her leg and went to the hospital and told her that she needs crutches for 4 weeks! just because someone pushed her . But luckily, a fellow ELF helped her get out of the stadium as she was limping!

Evidence?


Translation to the picture of the girl with a broken leg:
“I wasn’t going to post this picture up.
But the Soshi boy-fans…hahahaha… said there was no evidence
I’m wearing crutches..hahahaha…how about this
If you say that I’m still lying, I might as well put up my medical examination
You guys should really keep you integrity…hahahahaha
If I had the heart, I’d like to post my phone number and talk with you via video?
But my cell phone is currently messed up”

After the concert the one decent fan wrote to SNSD fans:
“I’m a guy just as you, bastards”
I’m a guy just as you bastards –
I’m a guy just as you bastards –
I’m a Soshi fan also; however you bastards…
How can you hit, kick, rape and stab girls with a knife –
You guys are totally Soshi Pshychos


9
Jun
Behind the Scenes at the 2008 Dream Concert!
posted by tealfirestar07 Artist Under: K-Entertainment, Sonyeo Shidae

The most significant issue on the Dream Concert 2008, which has already been reported in the forum, was the “Silent Treatment” of all the present fan clubs towards SNSD members and fans! For the first time ever in the history of KPOP (as far as we know) all the present fanclubs in the concert boycotted a single group: Girls Generation (SNSD)!

During the SNSD performance, other fanclubs remained silent and turned off their light sticks .. this only left the SNSD fanclub cheering for their group, making SNSD’s official color pink as the only visible color in the stands!

Before SNSD performance

During & After SNSD performance

Fans Boycotting SNSD at Dream Concert 2008

The reason?
Was it this girl Tiffany’s fault?

The one who is hated the most in the group?
The one who doesn’t stand a chance to NOT disrespect her seniors in the name of being raised in the U.S. and unfamiliar with the Korean culture? The one who puts down her own group by messing up the dance moves intentionally to grab attention to herself or make fun of respectful singers only to embarrasses the whole entire group in public?

because this is the girl who couldn’t even stop seeking for attention even on the red carpet before the concert that day! appearing in the shortest skirt and making a ridiculous pose, trying to stand out, making you speechless in return!

But NO! It’s not! That is not the ONLY reason!
We are doing a thorough researched based post on the reason’s behind the event shortly! But for now we would like to share insights of noonoo_shoo the person who wrote the lst post’s article on the event. Some like noonoo_shoo believe some of the reasons might lie in the unfair marketing plans of SNSD by SM and such. This is not the only reason but prepares you for what we are going to present you later!
——————————————————————————————–
The dream concert happenings fell into a cycle of things in such a short time, it started off as sheer amusement of the boycotting and silencing of fans, I couldn’t help but laugh ….

Then I saw what SNSD fans did to the Super Junior banner!
During the SuperJunior performance (Before SNSD performance) some number of SNSD fanboys ran toward the Super Junior Banners and ripped them apart, right in front of the ELF and SuperJunior on stage!

Evidence?

I guess the fans retaliated because they didn’t want to take things lying down, since their mostly boys it sorta makes sense, although i must add that real men know when to admit defeat and take things on the chin. Yes, they admittedly dampened the celebrations, cos I do really love suju for their passion, for their personalities, dudes entertain me and i like em.

That wasn’t enough I had to go and read the comments on the soompi thread (sometimes i hate soompi for the idiots there) and got bloody pissed off.

This was done because of SNSD, why? Because these girls ARE rookies, they have NO respect for their sunbaes (seniors) they just jump around like their the popular girls in high school. And seriously, does the movie “mean Girls” not pop up when you think of a reality show in their dorms?

There are plenty of reasons WHY fans are so pissed off, because believe it or not idiot soshi fans your so called STARS are riding on their seniors coat-tails of success, where some have worked hard, they have gained without effort. Where some have spent endless hours perfecting routines, perfecting songs, they get number 1 by kissing lollipops. Anything SNSD have “gained” is because of who paved the way ahead of them, and its not like their walking their path, no, their traipsing around all bouncy showing their panties to the world. How are we supposed to respect them, want them to succeed, how can self-respecting fans clap and cheer for them knowing that they’ve been born in to the world of showbiz with silver spoons and bought awards??? its sickening.

Cassiopeias are pissed off for more reasons but they’re mostly pissed due to the fact that most of the attention they are getting is by them associating themselves with the boys, by saying they trained with them, they’re friends, by appearing in Commercials with them, by making them look close and happy. Are they really that close?? my money is on no, actually I take that back, my money is on HELL NO. The Dbsg boys trained immensely hard for years to get where they are, they’re overworked, sleep deprived and are still passionate about what they do. They were taken at the height of their fame and thrown in japan where they became nobodies. They gained so much humility, respect for themselves and fans, experience and wisdom some stars get after decades of work. They built themselves up again even through such hardships and extreme homesickness. Its not difficult to respect them. They’re personalities alone are enough to get them far, but their hard work, passion, talent and perseverance can only make them go farther. Yet, SNSD with no said talent, not much passion, no personality get popular just by being under the same label, training and being put in scandals with them. Piss take, dontchathink?

ELF are angry because of almost the same thing. They have suffered for a long time because of the sub group business, SM doesn’t take them seriously and SNSD instead of getting their own gigs, feed off of their oppas. SUJU took a while to catch on and be seen as such good MCs, DJs and guests, they had to be recognized and accepted in the industry to be where they are. But what happens with SNSD, they just put them in the boiling pot with them, I swear when SNSD came out, i was like what the hell is going on, is SM putting in a buy one group get one free offer on Suju and SNSD??? FAVORITISM IS ONE OF THE LARGEST ISSUES.

also, boybands like SS501 feel the pain of cassi and elf, SS501 had gone through so much only to stay in the industry, a place that you can only make it if you are from SM, JYP or YG~ ok, they can argue but as i said in another post, die hard fans feel for each other, because they know how hard it is to break in to the business for their stars, the difficulty they had to face, the criticism from the public and th harsher criticism from themselves. SO when Tiffany claimed she liked the leader of ss501 before debut, it was almost like, ITS NOT BAD ENOUGH YOUR MOOCHING OFF THE SM BOYS NOW YOU WANT DSP.

Is it so hard to work your ass off to be recognized for your talent, unless of course you don’t have one, then you have to milk other artists on your label and others. they take advantage of other peoples popularity or popular news, Yoona saying Andy was her ideal man when all eyes were on Solbi and Andy as a couple??

Good god realize this, this isn’t just a punch in the face to your noonas you crazy fanthugs, its a personal insult to the artists and the fans that they got everything from doing and having nothing. I will never respect SNSD unless they spend years working hard in the industry proving their talented, their professional and well-intentioned. And i can rest assured it wont happen, because fame is their only driving power and they will never stop being those stereotyped high school giggly girls that you want to avoid.

Also, SM needs to take note that talent is something a group needs to gain popularity, not just a pair of unseemly legs.
——————————————————————————————-

There are many behind the scene issues of happened at the night of the concert that never got the light of the day through the media coverage! In this post we are trying to bring out points to make you familiar with the reason behind the act as much as possible also a short recap of what went on at the event!

The Dream Concert held on June 7 was delayed for 20 minutes because there were too many fans trying to get in at once.

On this day, there were no security guards and concert organizers to be seen in the stands to ensure the safety and cooperation of fans. There was only supposed to be a crowd of 35,000 concert goers, but 50,000 fans showed up trying to get in. Many were buying expensive tickets that went for $500 or more. This so called ‘Dream Concert’ was set for disaster.

Problems arose when a stadium that only fits 35,000 people tried to accommodate 50,000 instead and fans started fighting for good seats. This was particularly the case when SUJU fans and SNSD fans started pushing and shoving, using violence to get seats - turning the ‘dream’ concert into a nightmare. You can obviously see in the pictures that fans are being pushed off the railings to fall.

However, the very first reports we read on the actual fight between the fanclubs is actually from days before the concert! where SNSD fans been fighting with other fanclubs on the concert message boards! It’s reports that SNSD fans were very rude to the other Fanclubs online and even went as far as telling them to boycott SNSD beforehand because they said SNSD doesn’t need anyone’s support. This may explain the fact when they even initiated the fight during the SuperJunior performance (Before SNSD performance) and some SNSD fanboys ran toward the SuperJunior Banners are ripped off the SUJU banners right in front of the ELF!

and what SNSD fans think about it? Here is one …

[email protected]
June 8, 2008 at 10:40 am
when I saw that video of ELF crying like some animals about to be slaughtered I don’t feel a sh*t for them (I laughed actually). you know why?? because those are the same FC that harassed and in the end caused a girl to commit suicide because of a trivial matter! that should make them cry, not their freaking banners being torn!! Cassiopean are the same! these 2 FC bring bad name to Korean music fans!

Even thought the “Silence Treatment” was planned a few days ahead …
Evidence?

we even heard the rumors about it! But SNSD fans kept on adding oil to the fire!

There is also news coming that after the “Silence Treatment” SNSD fans left the stadium when SUJU and DBSK were performing (this was confirmed by many fan accounts … it not a rumour!) only to disturb the other fanclub members. There are many reports of SNSD fanboys threats and physical attacks, stabbing by knife and even rape by to female members of other fanclub!

Fan account: I went with a friend but we sat separately. I’m a Triple but she’s a Cassie. Suddenly I get a call from my friend who was crying and telling me that she was scared. While she was going to the restroom, she saw a Cassie who was being beaten up by boys holding pink balloons…and she told me it was on the level of gang violence. Among the Triples there was also news of being beaten by Soshi fans!

The situation was so frightening that Security asked everyone to walk in pairs!
According to fan accounts, other fan lclub members were beaten up by SNSD fanboys - some had their hair ripped out, raped, stabbed with a knife and had broken legs, and were taken to the hospital.
The news that is being reported now is very minor on these events and they are purposely leaving out these isolated incidents.
Evidence?
http://www.nakorean.com/news/articleView.html?idxno=7898

Here is a pic of a SNSD fan who had a knife with him. It was one of those swiss knives
The deal was that this person was waving around the knife but he took it out of his pocket and was constantly sharpening his knife in front of alarmed Cassie fans he also threatened them to treat them while on the way home!

One girl broke her leg and went to the hospital and told her that she needs crutches for 4 weeks! just because someone pushed her . But luckily, a fellow ELF helped her get out of the stadium as she was limping!
Evidence?

Translation to the picture of the girl with a broken leg:
“I wasn’t going to post this picture up.
But the Soshi boy-fans…hahahaha… said there was no evidence
I’m wearing crutches..hahahaha…how about this
If you say that I’m still lying, I might as well put up my medical examination
You guys should really keep you integrity…hahahahaha
If I had the heart, I’d like to post my phone number and talk with you via video?
But my cell phone is currently messed up”

After the concert the one decent fan wrote to SNSD fans:
“I’m a guy just as you, bastards”
I’m a guy just as you bastards –
I’m a guy just as you bastards –
I’m a Soshi fan also; however you bastards…
How can you hit, kick, rape and stab girls with a knife –
You guys are totally Soshi Pshychos

Not only the fans but the artists weren’t safe from SNSD fansboys! There are many reports that SNSD fanboys threatened ELF to rape Kang In and Sung Min from Super Junior! And this is when you have Sung Min writing to the ELF after the concert asking them to support SNSD from now on!


SUNGMIN’s MESSAGE TO E.L.F. translation by ak6c @ soshified
o the most lovable angels in the world that made SuJu shine at the Dream Concert…

Did you go back home safely?

I’m not so sure exactly what time it ended because I was too tired…

I hope you didn’t have to spend the night at a jjimjil room (steam room) or some place that’s not your home because it ended too late…

Yesterday, all I saw was our blue river everywhere~ did you know? hehehe

The top right… middle left… back of the stage… even at the side where you can’t see the stage…

It’s sad that not all the ELF fans could see the stage together
I hope we can get seats with a better view next time.. hehe

How’s ‘Cook King’? Do you like it?
I like it.. keke the dance is fun too

………………….
………………….
………………….

Ah… you know our SNSD girls…
I heard you didn’t cheer for them? ^^;; I see our ELF is mad?
We’re one!!! kekeke I wanted to yell that out too~

But we showed to you yesterday that we were one! ke
Super Junior KRY+T+M+HAPPY = 1

I think the SNSD girls understand now too~
that they have to listen to their SuJu sunbae’s well!
Weren’t they punished enough till yesterday~?
So please cheer for our SNSD girls from now a lot~

Because we’re SMTOWN!
SNSD is also a part of our SM Family like E__~
It’s okay to dispute for a little…
but if you goes on without any resolvement, the family itself can be destroyed T_T
So cheer them on from now on ^^

I think it’s for SuJu as well!
If I think of it further ahead, I’d like to ask you to cheer on for all the singers…
Actually because our E__ is very very nice, I saw our E__ cheering the other artists a lot as well.
Sometimes even louder than us!! kekeke
Just joking. But cheer them on to a point where SuJu can feel a little jealous and want to work harder! ^^ ke
Let’s show them that we’re the best!! Making us feel thoughts like this as we go on the stage.. ^^

But if it goes on for too long I’ll quit!!

I wonder if I’ll get scolded? ^^;;
But still… even when I was feeling sick yesterday… it was our SNSD girls that took care of me and worried for me^^

If SNSD fans rip off the banners of SUJU in front of ELF and SUJU eyes
if they stab fans to death right in front of their eyes and send them to hospital!
They sure can rape suju members as well! Just saying!

and while SuperJunior members are going out of their way messaging their fans to support SNSD. The mighty members of SNSD didn’t even care about the way their fans were acting!


The message from SooYoung says:

The cheers from the fans was fabulous! You guys are the best <3

The way they have disrespected their seniors in the past, no wonder they also cheer up on all the stuff their fans did to the other fanclubs!

What Korean Media did instead?

Well SBS edited the whole performance .. made it sound like nothing really went wrong!
They shamelessly added ELF cheering parts to the SNSD performance video to make it sound as if nothing was out of the ordinary!


SNSD members were said that cried after they performed. There are reports that Lee Teuk (SuperJunior’s leader) also cried after the Suju performance because some SNSD fans ripped the fan-made Super Junior banner while they were singing, right in front of their eyes!

Yet, it is true that SNSD were booed off the stage!

It is also true that many fanclubs cheered for Wonder Girls when SNSD was performing, which moved a lot of WonderFuls (WonderGirls fanclub)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qcPDy1ShI8

But SBS (If you also look at the WonderGirls performance) edited the audience part as if the whole stadium was dark during their performance as well! It’s true that DBSK fans kept their red lights on only when DBSK performed .. but the exaggeration of the edited versions are beyond one’s comprehension!



Dream Concert Part 2: Wrong doings of SNSD fan club

1. Walking around with a knife, threatening Cassies and ELFs
Why in the world would anyone bring a knife to a concert if he/she didn’t have the purpose to stab someone with it? SNSD fans are a bunch of low-life thugs.

2. After SNSD’s performance, SNSD fans left the stadium in a group
SNSD was rude enough to leave the stadium after the performance of SNSD, deliberately missing out in the performances of DBSK and SUJU. There are many fan accounts that prove unlike what they claim they never cheered for other artists either!

3. ELF (SUJU fan club) attack/battery
The girl in the wheelchair with a broken leg is just one example of SNSD boy fans beating up ELFs. There are currently reports of 3 ELFs who had to be taken to the emergency room.

4. ELF sexual molestation
Actual fan account:
“A friend of mine was taking a long time to comeback from the restroom, so I called her. She picked up the phone and told me that she was in a certain row, naked and crying. She was going to the restroom when a couple guys came up from behind and ripped her clothes and touched her body and took pictures and then left. They looked like high school boys…she says she doesn’t remember anything but that the boys were holding pink balloons.”

Source: http://kin.naver.com/detail/detail.php?d1id=3&dir_id=30401&eid=BYbu1pEWQJZiLpaZVzqI4c8hQglMdqBs&av=point&page=1

5. Cassieopeia (DBSK fan club) attack/battery:
Cassie fan account, personally from the victim:
“I was constantly kicked in the head and was hit by balloons by SNSD fans. I got fed up and told them off “Stop it you bastards”. From that point on they started hitting my head with their fists. I remember exactly, there wasn’t just one person, but 5 or 10 that came to my seat and started beating me. SNSD fan girls were just looking at the scene and giggling….while some fans were so alarmed that they were talking of calling the police. I couldn’t defend myself and just patiently hoped that they would stop. When they left, I went over to the SUJU side to ask my friend for help. She took me to the hospital. When I awoke the next day at 2 in the afternoon, I found myself in a hospital bed with my mother humped over my bed, holding my hand tightly. I have bandages around my head…it seems like my head was ripped open.”

6. Tearing down SUJU and DBSK’s banner
Fans saw SNSD fans ripping the banners for SUJU and DBSK, enraging many fans. And making many more cry!

7. SNSD fans used words that a human should not say to incite other fans
[Warning: This is disturbing!]
SNSD fans were cussing out other groups and saying the following:
“We can kick their stomachs so that they can’t have babies”
“We can just rape the girls”
“Those crazy bastards, if they’re going to do it, they should do it right”
“They’re screaming like crazy bitches”

8. SNSD fans cussed out other singers while they were performing
SNSD fans shouted “bastard”, “bitches”, and “Shut up” when other artists came onto stage. This doesn’t compare to the 10 minute “silent treatment” that SNSD received.

9. Attack/Battery of ELF/ Cassie/ and Triple fan clubs
So far, ELF has reported 3 members who were taken to the hospital; Cassies have 2; while Triples have many injured members.

We will continue to update readers of any incidents that are reported …
But here’s Soyboy’s opinion:

SNSD fans WAKE UP! All of you and SNSD don’t deserve to be in Korea’s music industry. What the hell is this? How could this happen between fanclubs of the same company? You’re finally bringing everyone down. SNSD and their fans are a pretentious bunch of garbage that don’t belong in the spotlight. Even in sports, if a team is playing ugly, against the rules, or just plain being rude, they’re going to get kicked off the field. SNSD and their fans are displaying bad sportsmanship in a competitive arena. It doesn’t matter how talented they are… if they are a bad sport, they need to leave quickly. The Dream concert was supposed to give hope and dreams for young kids just as its name suggests; but instead, it has caused more hurt and pain for many young kids. SNSD and their fans need to APOLOGIZE and BEG FOR THEIR FORGIVENESS!

But in return this is what they (SNSD FANS) will respond you!
QUOTE ((YoonA)TaengSica @ Jun 8 2008, 11:24 AM)
This motherufcking cocksucking peice of shiitfuuckingdickface I dont give motherfuuckingshiit if i get banned on soompi but that just cut it coockfuucking patheticass little piece ofshiit you should go fuucking die. Burn in motehrfuucking hell dickfuuck cocksucking piece of shiitfuuck dont say fuucking shiit if your not even fuucking sure about what you say worhtless fuucking shiitface koreans dont hate snsd assfuuckin dumbass, you dont knwo fuuckingshiit about love do you pinkberry cuz your PROBABLY fat and ugly and retarded. they dont deserve that shiit you fuucking cockface they tried their best on stage and its their first fuucking time in DC. who said you had to love snsd if you dont like them fuucking shiit face, its just respectful to atleat fuucking clap but booing? wat the fuuck? fuucking inhuman cumfuucking shiit heads like you otta go fuucking get killed. they dont need to love every artist, we never said they needed to fuuckface now get the fuuck out and dont ever fuuckign come back u fuucking dipshiit loser, and divine justice? waat the fuuck? are you fuucking 8? fuucking make no fuucking sense

(Source: http://www.soompi.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=223527&st=420&start=420)
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Congratulation SNSD Tiffany. You are the most hated members in SNSD

I AM SO SHOCK WITH SNSD TIFFANY!! I am not their fans.. I just love SOME of their songs.

I was reading another blog today, and im sure soime of you might’ve went to this blog before. I’ll just copy paste the whole article..

IT IS TAKEN FROM shenyue


Let me tell you what happens when bunch of talent challenged (SNSD) who sell worthless music, labeled under “virgin” and cute unmarried girls image, contradicting it by wearing super short skirts and not hesitating the chance to reveal their panties to the world …

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFhmb0QaGkg

^ in case you wonder why Tiffany’s skirt is uneven ..
is because she pulls the damn thing up herself!
Check out the bellow picture for confirmation!



In case you ever wondered if anyone caught what’s under those skirts!


^This is their YoonA by the way!
There are pictures of all the SNSD members’ panties available around the net!

Then you wonder why some of their fans make videos like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH49z2h1Bv4

^No wonder the male members of their fanclub is raising up!

…. get awards either for the sake of the name of their label company or by cash!
This is what these bunch do when they feel they are popular!

Tiffany of SNSD who is the most hated number even among the SNSD die-hards
and even the SNSD members have a hard time with her around …
(There are truly rumors of SNSD members not getting along with her!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBDttU9e9ew

as if it is not enough to be on the porn sites ..

http://www.april-snow.co.kr/13678

she has recently made many titles of news and controversial rumors!

- There are rumors that during the SNSD stay in LA, for the Hollywood bowl 2008, one of the workers of the hotel revealed Tiffany spent the night in the DBSK members’ room with boys *shrug* I know, this is too much to believe .. but it’s the rumor and out there being discussed by KPOP fans, so SYP readers has a right to know about it as well!

Anyways, another controversial news about Tiffany that made quite a stir on the Korean side of the internet happened on her show “Champagne”

Translation of the news by soyboy:
The news is talking about the incident on “Champagne” where one of the MC’s took away Tiffany’s blanket, which she was using to cover her legs because she was wearing very short pants. So she got embarrassed. Then they go on to show her other incident of where she wore a really short skirt that showed her underwear (oh my!). So one of the MC’s on the show gave her the advice of wearing something appropriate if she doesn’t want to get embarrassed and went on to criticize stars that wear low-cut shirts that show their breasts, which they have to cover when they bow in greeting.

Tiffany in this new show called “Champagne” seems to be causing quite a stir!
Recently in the episode that aired on May 17th stopped actor Kim Ji Suk’s in the middle of his singing and corrected his English on air! Kim Ji Suk who is Tiffany’s senior and a respectful actor felt so insulted by Tiffany’s behavior all through the rest of the program.It turned out unlike Tiffany who doesn’t even have her High School diploma from an English speaking country has English teaching certificate and has lived in both US and England for years. Here is the news and the translation!



Actor Kim Ji Suk, who studied abroad in England, was criticized for his “incorrect” English pronunciation by American-native Tiffany.

During the KBS 2TV “Champagne” that aired May 17, MC Shin Bong Sun requested a personal serenade from actor Kim Ji Suk, who was a guest on the show. He sang for her a popular pop song “Can’t Take my Eyes Off You.”

But the instant he finished singing, SNSD Tiffany criticized his English pronunciation, saying, “Your pronunciation of the entire song is wrong.” Kim Ji Suk was taken aback and felt so embarrassed that he could not hold his head up for the rest of the show. Making the situation worse, Tiffany allowed herself to sing the song with the “correct” English pronunciation, not noticing that Kim Ji Suk’s face was getting redder.

In reality, Kim Ji Suk immigrated to England to study abroad during middle school. He returned to Korea after his 3rd year in high school to finish his education, eventually studying German at Hankuk University of Foreign Studies. He also received English and German teaching credentials. As an actor he gained a lot of popularity in the 2008 hit sitcom “I Hate You, But It’s FIne”, starring along side Han Ji Hye. He also received a lot of praise during the sitcom for his amazing English skills. This sitcom received over 40% ratings and is ranked as the #1 broadcasted drama of the year.

Netizens who saw this episode commented, “I agree that Kim Ji Suk’s English is not perfect, but Tiffany went overboard,” “Kim Ji Suk studied abroad in England and he is fluent in English; Tiffany was very inconsiderate and ignorant of her surrounding.” Tifanny’s obvious lack of discretion has caused uproar among netizens.
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Source of the news: Sportsseoul
Translation for Shenyupop.com: soyboy

SM right away ordered to remove all the videos for the damage control perhaps.
Not so many people caught the show on air as of now despite all the effort there seems no way to find the footage! Maybe SM is super worried about this .. since a little while ago a news of SNSD specially Tiffany’s insulted attacks to the legendary group Shinhwa members was released in the media!

We spent hours and hours researching on Tiffany’s mess with Shinhwa in English and Korean forum/sites and it was revealed that SM apparently forced to delay the news to be released in the media untill the Tiffany’s formal apology actually happened!




ere is the story in short .. apparently Tiffany has made fun of Jun jin’s dance in his new song “wa” on a radio show that aired May 14 and seems like LSM’s niece “sunny” was there as well and she gave a big laugh at the imitation Tiffany was doing!

Please Note:
This is when Tiffany is a person who always …
messes up her group mates’ dance performances herself!



^Picture is made by Korean Netizens!

I can’t stop wondering if she is that good in imitating people’s dance moves …
why not working on her own dance steps to stop embarrassing herself in public!

On another TV program Tiffany also commented with laugh that Hyesung’s voice is like a goat when singing. As if she sounds better than a goat herself!?

Apparently Shinhwa fans who watched the show were so angry that left so many angry comments on the message boards that made the Shinhwa management company to demand a formal apology from Tiffany through SM. and just like always, she came up with a lame excuse that it was all on the scripts! If she didn’t get any job from now on .. just know why! poor script writer! The whole story was held off reporting by SM till after they were forced to make the formal apology! Here is the translation of the news.

SNSD are “Sorry” for parodying Shinhwa’s Jun Jin

SNSD was forced to apologize in person to Shinhwa’s Jun Jin, who is busy promoting his first solo album.

On Melon’s DMB radio that aired May 14, SNSD disrespectfully labeled Jun Jin has ‘Justin Jinberlake’ (they probably thought they were so clever) and did a ridiculous imitation of Jun Jin’s power-punch dance to his title song “Wa”.

Afterward, the Shinhwa fans who watched this radio broadcast were furious, leaving remarks on message boards of Melon radio and SM Entertainment, saying “Isn’t it disrespectful to make fun of a senior singer?”

On May 22, SNSD made a formal, sincere apology in person to Jun Jin, who was waiting in his dressing room before his performance on Mnet M! Countdown.

Jun Jin’s management company, Open World Entertainment, revealed this incident on their homepage on May 22, asking for the fans’ understanding. (Wow, the power of SM – at least they delayed this news from reaching fans until SNSD got a chance to apologize).

According to Open World Entertainment, after reading the comments left by fans, a representative from Open World contacted SNSD’s manager at SM Entertainment, expressing his displeasure and requesting an apology. SM Entertainment’s representative explained that SNSD was only following the radio script and did not deliberately humiliate their senior singer, Jun Jin. Open World confirmed that SNSD met Jun Jin in his dressing room and made a formal apology.

SNSD left a message on Shinhwa’s site, saying that they were very apologetic and that they can’t ask for Shinhwa fans to love them, but to at least forgive them. In return, one fan replied, “ I hope you watch your mouth in the future. You [SNSD] still didn’t apologize for saying that Shin Hye Sung’s voice was like that of a goat. I hope this doesn’t occur again. Because SNSD apologized, I think I’ll be able to close my eyes just this once.” (By the way, Hye Sung’s much acclaimed vocals are amazingly sweet).

Soyboy: SNSD are a bunch of idiots. They are very lucky that this news didn’t spread very far and that only a few of Shinhwa’s fans new about this. They are a bunch of conceited, disrespectful garbage that don’t belong in the music industry. They probably don’t even know who they just made fun of. Shinhwa is a legendary idol group in the history of Korea. Their recent 9th anniversary album reached sales of over 96,000 copies in one month without any promotional activities. SNSD’s album sales don’t even come close to that. How dare they humiliate their seniors in the music industry.
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Source of the news: My Daily, Daum
Translation for shenyuepop.com: soyboy

I wonder if SM sent Media and TV to film the apology to create some sympathy for this pathetic, disrespectful, conceited, rude girl to be shown later on all TV channels!
As you can see … so many people are being hurt by this plastic girl’s manners



or i must say “lack” of manners!
Here is the translation of some of the messages Netizens wrote on the message boards:
Translation is all done by our girl “soyboy”. Many thanks to her ^^..

- “Is that all if you say that it was on the script after you made such rash comments,”
- “How inconsiderate could the script writer have been to write that?”
- “Even if it’s on the script, did they have to follow it…Even if it is the script, what kind of people (SNSD) are they to follow it?”
- ” Garbage Soshi – they think they’re all that for gaining a little popularity; The more they become popular, the more pompous they get”
- “Why are you (SNSD) always blaming the script?^^…Whenever you curse on air, it’s the script; when you talk disrespectfully to a senior, it’s the script. Why not kill someone and say it’s the script?”

They further added, “I think Lee Soo Man is an idiot for taking a bunch of garbage-like girls and trying to turn them into singer”
- “I can just imagine how shocked Jun Jin was when 9 homeless people filed in to greet him…it must have hurt his eyes.”

But I whole heartedly have to agree with one netizen who said, “(Soshi) Anti-fans are the best! You guys are truly great!”

and as shocking as it might sound …


apparently Tiffany is or was at some pointJessica Ho’s friend!
we came across Jessica’s myspace note to someone named “Stephanie”
who was supposed to debut in “Super Girl”



As it’s a common knowledge:
1. Tiffany’s real English name is Stephanie
Perhaps she changed her stage name to Tiffany for stopping the confusion with
her senior Stephanie of THE GRACE, CSJH from the same company

2.“Super Girl” was the name of SNSD pre-debut!

So all this time these notes were sent to:
Stella Kim (Siwon’s rumored GF) and Stephanie Hwang (SNSD Tiffany)



As for Jessica Ho, she is a Korean-American singer who apparently…
has a history of insulting known and famous stars in the Korean industry!
Some of her documented insults were to BOA



and Daniel Henney


Hanging out with such a character .. who even asks her to not be phony!
No wonder such a talentless conceited person dares to humilate respectful artists in the Korean entertainment! We decided telling you all that .. just so you’d be aware and careful of turning into a genuine fan of any smily person next time .. there are stories hidden beneath their smiles!
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im definitely not an anti...i'm a fan lol ^^
but everyone keeps saying their fake, talentless, plastic, threatened to rape DBSK and Super Junior (targetting two of the biggest boy bands in the korea, not exactly the best move), then theres Tiffany with her disrespect for elders (Shinhwa and other artists), her funky nose job, then you've got hardcore fans of other boybands (Cassios, ELFS and recently VIP's with SNSD doing a mini drama together), the Haptic commercials, the SNSD fans ripping the ELF banner (making Leeteuk cry), SNSD getting the silent treatment, Taeyeon calling Kangin a retard, I think there was one time SNSD laughed at a Chinese's town's name that sounded like a swear word in Korean. the list goes on, but a lot of it is rumours

Now I like SNSD, but even i dont get why theres so many anti-fans, ok big deal theres a few hiccups, but dont take it out on them, they're still humans, they dont deserve such harsh treatment
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Well, you could do a whole bunch of research but it'll still amount to rumors and misunderstandings. Most bad things come from anti-snsd sites, which always get posted to back up whatever an anti may say.

But how i see it is open-minded people who aren't opinionated wouldn't hate on them. It's the ones who are opinionated and quite protective of their own favorite group that do.
so to all the anti's who still rage about
'showing their panties'
blame their stylist and FYI, they ARE wearing shorts!
'They are rude and disrespectful'
They are Girl's Generation. Since the day they debuted they are like any normal girl, grew up, made mistakes, fell and came back strong. They are truly Girls generation because you get to grow up with them. Some things were uncalled for [mainly Tiffany's comments] but life goes on so drop the history.
'They used SuJu and DBSK to advance'
Grow up, their SM family, same company means they must mingle. Unless there's a family out there who won't talk, touch, or interact with their brother,sister, mother, father out there o_0
'They're plastic'
Well welcome to the 21st century! if you have money to make yourself beautiful most people will do it. So stop criticizing other people's decision. No one jumped off the bridge when other people did surgery so using this as a reason to hate on SNSD just makes me laugh.
'They have no talent'
Well then, you're either extremely ignorant or deaf because they can all sing LIVE while dancing. Something other groups can't even do. The ones that don't sing to well has other talents to back them up. Shocking, but not everyone is awesome at dancing, singing, and whatever else you can do.
'Because they are bitches'
Define what a bitch is to you; then again no one who doesn't know them personally has the right to call them that.
'no respect for seniors in their business'
So they made a couple mistakes that they have already Apologized for. It's not like disrespect them on a daily basis. what do anti's do? follow them on a daily basis in order to have a reason to criticize them?
'they're music is so generic, they act all cutsey'
Well most music is these days, but it's their first album... i can understand this only if they did multiple albums and still had the same style but they've grown as well.
'they're suing DBSK for sexual harrasment'
That was all rumor and never happend, if you believe that then what rock have you been hiding under... or maybe just something an anti needs to stay anti
'media labeled them girl version of super junior, they aren't half as talented'
bleh, and 2NE1 was labeled girl big bang, don't see anyone instantly jumping on anti 2NE1 bandwagon....
'they're all plastic'
then you must be blind because as we age we look a bit different. Girls having surgery hasn't been proven yet anyways... all speculation so why worry about what if's? just stick with the facts
'they have lots of anti-fans'
'so what? so does every other group! Isn't it an irony that they also have the largest official fan club for girl group?
'their fans ripped Suju's poster'
All they can do is ask that their fans not do it, they cannot physically stop their fans from doing what they want to do! true for all other fans as well so there's no need to bash them for their fans doing.
' they don't work as hard as dbsk, suju, wg, etc...'
How do you know if you weren't there? everyone goes through years of training, and if you watched their show you'd know that they all work hard. Especially Tiffany since she's the weakest at dancing.
'well Cassiopeia and ELF and VIP....blah blah blah agree and hate SNSD'
Please keep your opinion labeled as yourself. This is like telephone. The original message never goes fully through. Using the name of a major fan club to back you up is low because you grouped them on your side whether they agreed to whatever you're saying or not.
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O.O i must say that i am a neutral fan...
first of all i listen to and love their songs... second.. i hate the way they project themselves into the public...as their usual selves not the ones where they get to perform and act cute the entire time. It's soo unnatural for artists not to have discipline on themselves...

i just listened to genie.. they pwned 4minute in terms of comeback/debut... XD
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I'm with ANTI FAN! HATE SNSD SO MUCH LIKE 1000000000000... to infinity% SO MUCH! They are so flirty when it comes to SJ and TVXQ! And SNSD needs to get a life and please teach your fanboys how to respect fangirls! Not destroying other banners' Hate them so much....'
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WHY DO THEY HAVE SO MANY ANTI FANS?
simple, everyone has haters

BUT WHY SO MANY?
their are many reasons, but as a civil anti fan, i refrain from violence

i dislike them because:
Taeyeon's bad leadership
- I know tiffany & taeyeon sometimes accidently say something bad, but i know its normal for people to make mistakes.
But the fact that Taeyeon always pushes the blame to someone else, making them apologize instead, even though it was her wrong doing is just pathetic and when tiffany bad mouths, she as a leader should apologise on behalf of snsd even if tiffany didnt.
- The fact that she disses her own members by stating "I think celebrities who goto school, do it just for the image". She infact knew that a few of her members were applying to go university, but ignores the fact they are.

Disgrace to the female race - (Personality)
By owning the name Girls' Generation, it makes them represent the female race. The fact that they own the name "Girls' Generation" makes it seem like that all females act like 5 year olds even though they're nearly at their 20's and have similar personalities to the girls.

This is just my point of view as a civil anti fan.
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Some people just have a lot of hate welled up inside themselves. To dislike a group, no problem with that, just don't listen to their music/pay attention to them then. However, to hate them due to reasons such as their conduct or appearance is ridiculous. Sure, there might be an occasional incident where a member makes a slip of tongue, but to pick it to pieces shows how immature and sad these people are. They may be rolemodels, but they're also human as well, and humans aren't perfect no matter what you might think about your own favorite group. If one so desired, one could pick apart any celebrity/group and highlight all their flaws. Nevertheless, arguing with people so firmly entrenched in their opinion is a fruitless endeavour, see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJJA1vvMc4I.
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eh in my eyes, snsd is a half-their-age wannabee mini-skirt-wearing girl group who attract a large sum of south korea's old pervy men. they might be talented, but they're over their heads, especially tiffany, who showed a huge disrespect to Shinhwa during a variety show. lol its not a big deal here, but in south korea, the seniority and crap is a large deal. plus the fact that they have a bunch of pro-snsd fans means that there is probably an even bigger anti-snsd. thats how the world works.
Posted 7/10/09
i thik they still look so so only even after plastic surgery
Posted 7/11/09
yah..i really wonder why..
Posted 7/11/09
i like snsd and i think that tiffany was to be blamed for having many anti-snsd. though she looked cute and pretty, she have bad manners. i read some news about her disrespecting elders (probably, from the kpop music). so that's it. but i'm not sure though.
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