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I just finished Shiki's true ending and felt an uncontrollable urge to open this topic. I still have Nano's ending left, but I'm too depressed right now to even try playing it again (I cried like a little girl, last time that happened was while I was reading 1984, which makes me even sadder).

As far as I know, with the patch there are 3 Keisuke's endings, 2 Executer's endings (Gunji and Kiriwar), 3 Shiki's ending's, and Rin's, Motomi's, Arbituro's and Nano's ending. That makes 12 possibilities. If there are any other - let me know

I have some problems getting to Nano's ending, I even used a capture guide but still, I can't get some options (which happened too while I was capturing Rin, but it didn't affect the ending), probably a bug or sth, and I'd appreciate some help (PM me or sth).

So, the first question is: which is your fav/ worse/ cutest/ coolest/ saddest/ boring ending?
And for those who were playing with translator tools (like me, my Japanese is good enough just to understand 50% of the game) did you understand the whole story? Because, as far as I can see, people didn't get the story behind Shiki's true ending, the wheelchair thing, to be exact. I read somewhere that it's a bit better explained on the drama cd (which is downloading now). As far as I understood playing, which was poor because of my teary eyes, bad translation and my lousy Japanese, it has something to do with defeating Nano, my presumption is they were somehow connected through Nano's blood (because in the other two endings he drinks Nano's blood and they are compatible in a way). For those who did understand - give us an epiphany (love that word).

What is found out at the end: Shiki is the king, Rin is his brother (like so much drama), Gwen and Emma knew everything and were just using Akira, Nano is the source of the line, and Akira's blood is it his antagonist. Hope I didn't forget anything.

My endings:
Fav - military ending. Love their uniforms and attitude :)
Worse - Shiki's first ending, where Akira's his bitch (though the last CG is too cute when Akira huggs him)
Cutest - Rin's ending. He is so damn cute when he grow's up. And gives Akira Shiki's katana.
Coolest - Keisuke's bad ending when he kills Akira, pulls out his intestines and says he loves him. Too damn brutal and cool.
Saddest - Shiki's true ending. I still feel like crying. What a lousy way to end for a sadistic, narcisstic, overconfident person like Shiki.
Boring - Keisuke's good ending. It's just, dunno, bleh. Happily ever after working in a factory? Common.




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I just finished Shiki's true ending and felt an uncontrollable urge to open this topic. I still have Nano's ending left, but I'm too depressed right now to even try playing it again (I cried like a little girl, last time that happened was while I was reading 1984, which makes me even sadder).

As far as I know, with the patch there are 3 Keisuke's endings, 2 Executer's endings (Gunji and Kiriwar), 3 Shiki's ending's, and Rin's, Motomi's, Arbituro's and Nano's ending. That makes 12 possibilities. If there are any other - let me know

I have some problems getting to Nano's ending, I even used a capture guide but still, I can't get some options (which happened too while I was capturing Rin, but it didn't affect the ending), probably a bug or sth, and I'd appreciate some help (PM me or sth).

So, the first question is: which is your fav/ worse/ cutest/ coolest/ saddest/ boring ending?
And for those who were playing with translator tools (like me, my Japanese is good enough just to understand 50% of the game) did you understand the whole story? Because, as far as I can see, people didn't get the story behind Shiki's true ending, the wheelchair thing, to be exact. I read somewhere that it's a bit better explained on the drama cd (which is downloading now). As far as I understood playing, which was poor because of my teary eyes, bad translation and my lousy Japanese, it has something to do with defeating Nano, my presumption is they were somehow connected through Nano's blood (because in the other two endings he drinks Nano's blood and they are compatible in a way). For those who did understand - give us an epiphany (love that word).

What is found out at the end: Shiki is the king, Rin is his brother (like so much drama), Gwen and Emma knew everything and were just using Akira, Nano is the source of the line, and Akira's blood is it his antagonist. Hope I didn't forget anything.

My endings:
Fav - military ending. Love their uniforms and attitude :)
Worse - Shiki's first ending, where Akira's his bitch (though the last CG is too cute when Akira huggs him)
Cutest - Rin's ending. He is so damn cute when he grow's up. And gives Akira Shiki's katana.
Coolest - Keisuke's bad ending when he kills Akira, pulls out his intestines and says he loves him. Too damn brutal and cool.
Saddest - Shiki's true ending. I still feel like crying. What a lousy way to end for a sadistic, narcisstic, overconfident person like Shiki.
Boring - Keisuke's good ending. It's just, dunno, bleh. Happily ever after working in a factory? Common.






oo wow~~ i actually learnt a lot from this post xD. i have the game at home but i cant read kanji lol.

I've downloaded the CGs though and they were sweeeet~~ but i was crushed to se Shiki in a wheel chair (which then made me think "does he have some illness"??)
i still dont know what was up with that :(

so far the only ending i got was the one with motomi, but im not a motomi fan so i found that one boring~~

hmmm maybe i should get the translation patch :O
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oo wow~~ i actually learnt a lot from this post xD. i have the game at home but i cant read kanji lol.

I've downloaded the CGs though and they were sweeeet~~ but i was crushed to se Shiki in a wheel chair (which then made me think "does he have some illness"??)
i still dont know what was up with that :(

so far the only ending i got was the one with motomi, but im not a motomi fan so i found that one boring~~

hmmm maybe i should get the translation patch :O


Well the group Yaoiforever didn't finish the translation yet, but you can play the game with AGHT text hooker and atlas translation tool. It's all explained here, it you're playing the PC version, (I love this site) http://www.deathsvertigo.com/trueblood/install.php
It works the same with all PC Japanese visual novels. There are even some dictionary patches for yaoi/yuri/hentai games, you just have to google it.

Yeah, I didn't like Motomi either, he's not that interesting. I even like Gunji who is such a minor character :)

And about the wheelchair thingy, I did some homework, so what people say is that he lost his will to live when he killed Nano (well I did presume that, but I can't help but think and hope, there's more to it). There's a really good togainu no chi doujinshi on this subject called "Ragdoll". Well, for a yaoi doujinshi it's kind of deep. I loved it. But it made me cry all over again . So, tissue warning ;)

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KuroiYuki wrote:
oo wow~~ i actually learnt a lot from this post xD. i have the game at home but i cant read kanji lol.

I've downloaded the CGs though and they were sweeeet~~ but i was crushed to se Shiki in a wheel chair (which then made me think "does he have some illness"??)
i still dont know what was up with that :(

so far the only ending i got was the one with motomi, but im not a motomi fan so i found that one boring~~

hmmm maybe i should get the translation patch :O


Well the group Yaoiforever didn't finish the translation yet, but you can play the game with AGHT text hooker and atlas translation tool. It's all explained here, it you're playing the PC version, (I love this site) http://www.deathsvertigo.com/trueblood/install.php
It works the same with all PC Japanese visual novels. There are even some dictionary patches for yaoi/yuri/hentai games, you just have to google it.

Yeah, I didn't like Motomi either, he's not that interesting. I even like Gunji who is such a minor character :)

And about the wheelchair thingy, I did some homework, so what people say is that he lost his will to live when he killed Nano (well I did presume that, but I can't help but think and hope, there's more to it). There's a really good togainu no chi doujinshi on this subject called "Ragdoll". Well, for a yaoi doujinshi it's kind of deep. I loved it. But it made me cry all over again . So, tissue warning ;)



omg i read that doujinshi before, and i was epically sad. I've never read a doujinshi that deep before--it had so much meaning and it got me teary (lol)~~ most yaoi doujinshi are just smut and "zOmg butt secks" so "ragdoll" is my favourite togainu no chi doujinshi :D

and D: shiki lost his will to live because he killed nano??? WOW massive spoilers xDD but i really doubt shiki would lose his will to live because he killed someone...unless nano has a close connection with Shiki....does he?

and Gunji is COOL even though he's a side character xDD~~i will never get tired of that gangster accent
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and D: shiki lost his will to live because he killed nano??? WOW massive spoilers xDD but i really doubt shiki would lose his will to live because he killed someone...unless nano has a close connection with Shiki....does he?



Yeah, that's what I'm thinking, how could he loose his will to live just with killing Nano? But on the other hand, I read somewhere that he compensated killing Nano (but he drank his blood, meaning he even became stronger) with other thinghs (depending on the other two endings), like world domination or being a drug lord But in the wheelchair ending, he stays true to himself, defeats Nano with his skills only. This is where it gets confusing for me; Nano, in the moment he dies, says to Shiki: "Your defeat.".
Why do they know everything, and we poor fangirls get only scraps? :)


and Gunji is COOL even though he's a side character xDD~~i will never get tired of that gangster accent


The tatoo, the unbuttoned (red or pink? my color discrimination sucks) shirt, chuckle claws and no brains. The Sexual asphyxiation doujinshi - "explains" why he's almost braindead Oh, and I liked the one Tokimeki natsuinu graffiti doujinshi, it was totally hilarious. I have to try smashing watermelons at the beach next time.
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KuroiYuki wrote:


and D: shiki lost his will to live because he killed nano??? WOW massive spoilers xDD but i really doubt shiki would lose his will to live because he killed someone...unless nano has a close connection with Shiki....does he?



Yeah, that's what I'm thinking, how could he loose his will to live just with killing Nano? But on the other hand, I read somewhere that he compensated killing Nano (but he drank his blood, meaning he even became stronger) with other thinghs (depending on the other two endings), like world domination or being a drug lord But in the wheelchair ending, he stays true to himself, defeats Nano with his skills only. This is where it gets confusing for me; Nano, in the moment he dies, says to Shiki: "Your defeat.".
Why do they know everything, and we poor fangirls get only scraps? :)


and Gunji is COOL even though he's a side character xDD~~i will never get tired of that gangster accent


The tatoo, the unbuttoned (red or pink? my color discrimination sucks) shirt, chuckle claws and no brains. The Sexual asphyxiation doujinshi - "explains" why he's almost braindead Oh, and I liked the one Tokimeki natsuinu graffiti doujinshi, it was totally hilarious. I have to try smashing watermelons at the beach next time.


O_o wow, so the story is actually really REALLY complex :D~~ i only wish i could understand more japanese (wahh T_T)
the wheelchiar ending really made me fall out of my chair. i mean, i didn't understand why SHIKI (out of all people) would be sitting in a wheelchair all helpless He was Il-re and the strongest for heavens sake xD
So it was Nano that made him like that eh?

and yeah the grafitti douji was xDDD~~ especially the ending (i dont think ill ever get another chance to see Akira in bikinis xDD)

Honey Star douji was good i liked how it had both TnC and Lamento characters in it xD~~it was like my cup of tea ^^
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O_o wow, so the story is actually really REALLY complex :D~~ i only wish i could understand more japanese (wahh T_T)
the wheelchiar ending really made me fall out of my chair. i mean, i didn't understand why SHIKI (out of all people) would be sitting in a wheelchair all helpless He was Il-re and the strongest for heavens sake xD
So it was Nano that made him like that eh?



Haha, yeah, Honey star was so cute:) I installed Lamento but, didn't play it yet... Have to finish togainu first. It's interesting how many picture spoiler's I've seen so far, but without context they don't mean anything to me. Before I played Togainu I knew almost all the endings, seen the pictures, but it's not the same when you actually play it. Contextualization is a nice thing :)

Well Nano didn't exactly make him like that physically but perhaps mentally? I found this on a lj Togainu no chi community game discussion:

Also worth noting: ED1 (the wheelchair ending) is the good end (or rather, the true end for Shiki's route). It's the only ending where he stays true to himself as a character by refusing Nano's blood, albeit at the ultimate cost of his will to live.

People tend to emphasize how much Akira changes in the other two endings, but IMO Shiki breaks down just as much, if not more so.... it's just not as immediately obvious.

In ED2 (the military ending), Shiki is all raring to go for world domination, but before he drank Nano's blood, he would have considered such ambitions ridiculous and pretentious and very much beneath him.

In ED3, he takes over the Vischio mansion and basically reigns over Toshima--becoming a literal tyrant, though as the Il Re of Igura, he had been a king only in name. The PS2 game helps show how little interest Shiki has in that kind of power--he actually offers to let Akira succeed him as Il Re. But in ED3, he clings to his dominance over the city.

Basically, the differences in Shiki's endings hinge on how he confronts Nano and later deals with his loss. In ED1, he loses Nano and knows he has absolutely nothing to replace Nano with, so over time he becomes a shell of his former self. In ED2, he tries (consciously or otherwise) to fill the gap left by Nano by challenging bigger and bigger institutions--the army, the government, entire nations. In ED3, he fills the gap by becoming the worst of everything in humanity he once represented to Nano: reveling in pointless bloodshed, living by arrogance and tyranny alone.


So, I think that basically explains everything.

Yesterday, I installed the game on my friend's computer... I wonder how'll she perceive the game... Yesterday she was struggling between choosing the sexiest character, even gave her a headache

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I just finished Nano's ending, two days ago, and felt so frustrated by not knowing his true name. I really liked the ending, though it is kind of a sad one (Nano's face before he tells his name to Akira - the only bastard who knows the name, grrr).
And he looks so much like Shiki in the last CG (when I first saw that CG, I thought it was Shiki).


Any ideas about his true name?
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i love this game so much i read the doujin before but now that i downloaded the game it works but the language shows as a weird simples i dont have my pc on japanese and i dont have my windows CD so i couldnt do anything , except i played it without getting it really in the first two times i got gunji's ending .... i know i talk alot but i need to know if some one has the full translation of this game even as a text ?? that would be so helpful , and thanx
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I've been searching around Crunchyroll for over an hour and I can't find anything on translators for games. I know there are two BL games that have been translated into English but I can't figure out what I can do if I get a game that hasn't been translated. Is there a program I can use to do automatic translation or some way I can get English walk through guides?

I'm dying to play Lamento and Togainu No Chi!
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Togainu no Chi is being translated by Yaoiforever for a while now...
http://community.livejournal.com/blforever/1170.html#cutid2

if you want to play it within a year you'd better use AGTH and ATLAS because the translation and edit process is very slow... (I'm waiting uhh.. 2 years now for that release?...)


I totally agree with the things said above, about Shiki's true ending...
it's so sad ;_;
Rin's ending is the one I like the most(uhh.. but I still have to play Nano's ending) because Rin is so cute ^^ and can be so scary, he's so awesome!! <3 ( I guess I'm in love with him...)
and Motomi's ending was also cute because Akira looked really happy there(only it's a bit scary to imagine a relation with a 'father type' of guy)

I also like Gunji's ending... his tattoo is cool and I love the way he calls Akira(and other -cute- participants) kitty's xD but he's a bit too cruel (... as if Shiki isn't '¬¬ )


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I can't get a hold of just about any of this so can someone tell me why gunji is so...I guess messed up?
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My thoughts on each of the endings:

Gunji & Kiriwar's Ending - It was just too short. I had fun seeing the whole rape scene and it made me happy at-least but I do wish it was one of those long routes like Motomi, Arbitro, and Rin's. I actually really wanted to play Gunji's route but when I got to this part I was very disappointed because it wasn't possible.



Arbitro's Ending - It was okay. I think this was one of the most boring and worse endings ever. They could've at least insert in a hot and steamy scene in there for the fanservice but sadly, there was none. AND I was actually looking forward to seeing Arbitro taking off his white mask revealing his handsome face BUT! That did not happen. And his weird...art interests really got me freaked out so I wasn't too interested in this ending.



Keisuke's 3 Endings - For the two bad endings, it was crazy. the Yandere side of Keisuke shocked me. Of course it was nice to see the sexy scenes but I don't really like the mean and forceful side of Keisuke. So the 2 bad endings didn't make it to my "Good Endings List". I really like the good ending, they had a cute sex scene after realizing they like each other, they both escaped, and now they both are living happily with each other. Cute and simple enough.



Motomi's Ending
- I've seen a lot of people complaining about Motomi but I in fact, actually really like his Route and Ending. Why? Maybe it's because I have a thing for older men but it was cute. There weren't any of those forceful rape scenes instead it was nice to see Motomi mess around and hold back his true feelings for Akira. Like I said, it's very sweet and gentle. Again, the ending was simple and cute. They both lived happily ever after. Period.



Rin's Ending
- I don't really have a thing for cutesy, young looking boys. So I was a bit bored of Rin's Route. And of course in this route, we all learn that he is in fact Shiki's younger brother. And that shocked me! And then I compared them and clearly saw the similarities between the siblings. But I did like the ending though. Rin comes back to Akira all grown up. Now that scene was sexy and got me squealing like an idiot. I would've appreciate his story a bit more if I knew he was going to become a sexy man!



Shiki's 3 Endings - I didn't like the ending where Akira had become a whore like person. And yet, it was still nice to see Shiki stay loyal and have eyes only on Akira. And then the other bad ending was the Nazi like regime ending. Although it wasn't the good ending, it was definitely one of my favorite endings. Why? Because they looked really sexy in those uniforms and I've always dreamed of World Domination. So that ending made me really happy. As for the good ending for Shiki, it was a very very sad one. Seeing Shiki in a wheelchair broke my heart. And so I was really really sad. I hope that one day, Shiki will be able to become normal again.


Nano's Ending - Nano's Route gives us the True Ending. And I really love Nano. which makes this Ending my favorite out of all the endings out there. I really like Nano's character and fell in love with him instantly after playing his story. It was a very sad and melancholic story line. But what made this ending the best ending is the freaking picture at the end. Yes that's right!! The picture where Nano smiles for the first time! I fell in love all over again and I was so happy for the both of them. I'm so glad they're still safe in the epilogue right after the credits. So...so glad.



Also there is a completed English Patch already. I forgot where to download it (since I was basically just googling everything) but the best place for you to find out about this is from Aarinfantasy. Best of lucks~
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