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Christians, How do you know that you are saved?
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azn099 wrote:


Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


azn099 wrote:


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azn099 wrote:

what i define a christian is someone who believes that there is only one true god, and that his only son, jesus christ, sacrificed his life to repent our sins.

as for the church thing, you do not have to go to church to be christian. you can build a relationship with god and jesus christ without going to church.


So you do fallow the teaching of this fake character known as Jesus. (thats nice most people don't know that you do not need to go to church to be in church.)
Did he not say Church is anywhere where a few people gather to talk about god.. 'YOu can be in church at your dinner table.

'I just love how a all knowing god new this was going to happen , felt the need to let it happen then kill a few billion people. Mostly little kids and babies. Then Go about saying he will fix "ARE SINS"! Something does not sit well with me wen it comes to your Dark overlord of a god."

Hell the Vikings had more just and friendly gods than your god. Scary to think How meny people warship a evil dictator.

In other words A all knowing god mest up and had to flood the world.
A all loving god had to kill the first born kids and babies to make a point.
A wise god sent a she bear out to kill kids for laughing at a guy for having no Hair.

'A god that can't stand people who don't warship at his feat so he wan't them dead, and he wants them to burn forever and ever for it.'

Why respect your ideal of a god. Does not seem to be a great all knowing all loving god to me.


it makes me lol how people can not read the title.
stop trolling this thread
this thread is not about whether you believe in the teachings of christianity or not.

I have read it. But in the end I was not replying to the thread, but to your post.



the only thing your post shows me is how intolerant you are of christians. do you really believe you have any right to tell me what to believe? and even if you think you do, do you think you'll be able to change my mind especially over the internet?

it's what i believe. i don't get why you would come out of nowhere and suddenly start flinging all this mud at me.

i'll tell you what i think of atheists. i think they can believe what they want to believe. i don't care. it has no effect on me whether they believe in god or not. why does it matter so much to you that i believe in god?


No not at all, My best friend is a Christian... And A Scientest.

I am just placing my opinion on the group I do find I have a little hate for. The major religious that will say the bible is 100% fact, And that without religion we have no morals, and cant even use there own heads to find out how the world works around them. Because its all tricks played by the devil. People like that piss me off and get me heated. Being that I see two just like that at work every day, Yes I am ready for a fight everytime I get home. Angry atheist don't make anything he said wrong.

I did point out a few facts, you might wanna look into.
1. Other than the bible there is no evidence in history of Jesus being a real person.
2. Evolution is a fact.
3. Gravity is a fact.
4. All animals have there own form of Marality, even humans.
5. People worship magical Dragons long before the Ideal of a single god. Does that make Magical dragons real?

If the 5 points I made, is Hurtful to you than your not being open minded about it.
If there not bothing you, than You not the type of CHristian I am angry at. (so just keep an open mind and relax.)
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Darkphoenix3450 wrote:

No not at all, My best friend is a Christian... And A Scientest.

I am just placing my opinion on the group I do find I have a little hate for. The major religious that will say the bible is 100% fact, And that without religion we have no morals, and cant even use there own heads to find out how the world works around them. Because its all tricks played by the devil. People like that piss me off and get me heated. Being that I see two just like that at work every day, Yes I am ready for a fight everytime I get home. Angry atheist don't make anything he said wrong.

I did point out a few facts, you might wanna look into.
1. Other than the bible there is no evidence in history of Jesus being a real person.
2. Evolution is a fact.
3. Gravity is a fact.
4. All animals have there own form of Marality, even humans.
5. People worship magical Dragons long before the Ideal of a single god. Does that make Magical dragons real?


i really hate religious arguments/debates. they never lead to anywhere except back to square one.

if you want evidence that jesus existed then go here http://www.gotquestions.org/did-Jesus-exist.html i already know evolution and gravity are facts. the bible is not supposed to be taken literally. anybody that believes that adam and eve or the story of noah's ark is a historical account is out of his/her mind.
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please stop spamming these threads! :S
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Both of you end your discussion here or take it to PM



Any off topic posts will be deleted it so don't waste your time.
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Both my Parents are Christian. My mother couldn't give birth but she didn't give up, she trusted God and kept on praying just like the mother of Samuel and so she even asked her family in the Philippines, her friends to pray for her. The doctors even told her that the chances for her to have a child are so slim. But one day God answered her prayer and she became pregnant. Since my mother was already old, 38 years old, the doctors asked her to have an amniocentesis but she said "No, if God will give me a gift, I'm sure he'll give me a perfect gift." so the doctors backed off and my mother gave birth. The child soon grew up loving and worshiping God, through the high and lows, he never gave up serving God and his desire to become a pastor was his strong desire. That child is me. After hearing this story from both my parents, I prayed to God and cried for having such loving parents.

I know that I am saved because of the true repentance that I said in my prayer. I told God that "I know I am a sinner and I believe that the only way to Heaven is through You. And I thank you God for suffering and Dying for us, so that we may have a chance to be with you in Heaven." That one simple-heartfelt prayer was your ticket from eternal Hell to a kingdom called Heaven. During my life, I also experience God, through my prayers that He answers, the miracles He is constantly showing, the Prophesies that are fulfilling and through the many Blessings He is pouring to me. One day I almost died but because God knew that it wasn't my time, He continued to give me life. Even through the sins of Sexual Immorality, God still loved me and was still with me. I felt the Holy Spirit working in me while singing or even through temptations and trials I am put into.

This is my personal Story.

This is my favourite Memory verse. Proverbs 3:5-6 "Trust in the Lord with all your heart
and lean not on your own understanding; in all thy ways acknowledge him, and he will direct your paths" KJV

This verse has always stayed with me and has always guided me as I grew and as I continue to grow.

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But what I don't understand is why Atheists are trying to disprove something that THEY BELIEVE doesn't exist.

I respect everyone's choice. But when you reach your last breath, your thought of Heaven and Hell will appear but then it will be too late. Many people I know, before they die, they say "God, God please save me"

Matthew 22:14 "Many are called but few are chosen"
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What Azn099 posted is truth.

It's knowing Jesus died for our sins; and because of this we are saved.

What does John 3:16 say; and why is it one of the most famous verses; because it's truth.
John 3:16 (New International Version)

16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,[a] that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

I'm not trying to preach. But this is what you are taught when you are Christian. Whether not this is real truth is something only the individual can decide. But this is what a true Christian believes.
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IsakuRain wrote:

But what I don't understand is why Atheists are trying to disprove something that THEY BELIEVE doesn't exist.

I respect everyone's choice. But when you reach your last breath, your thought of Heaven and Hell will appear but then it will be too late. Many people I know, before they die, they say "God, God please save me"

Matthew 22:14 "Many are called but few are chosen"


What can be asserted without proof, can be dismissed without proof.
Also, we Atheists only believe in one less god than you do.

There are many gods, from a variety of religions. Christianity believes in one god, that means that you are saying that these other gods do not exist (Zeus, Odin, etc.) because your deity is the one and only all-powerful god. And how do you prove this notion? Because of a book that has no credibility in it, what so ever, out of mere faith. So, you could say that Christians are trying to disprove other religions and deities, because they don't believe they exist. Atheists, or any logical one for that matter, believes in creditable science and things we can either touch, see, smell, or taste and can be proven to have some sort of substance.

I know, when it's time for me, that my last dying breath will be, "Thank goodness, I am saved from the world's idiocy."
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQLD59fK_Iw&feature=related

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Also, this video is interesting regarding Christianity, whether you are a believer or not.
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Is anyone else getting tired of these annoying religion topics, their getting so annoying that I'm missing the xbox 360 vs ps3 topics.
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Hmm, it's like any other topic than can be a cause for argument, really.
Discussing your views sure isn't going to change anyone's opinion, that's not the point of it, just having the discussion is interesting in itself.
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I think we know we are saved when we have repented before Jesus Christ and know that we have been forgiven of sin. The devil tries to tell us that we have to earn God's Love and Forgiveness to make us fear hell, but the chains of hell have been broken by Christ. Christians can know that they are saved because we have the Holy Spirit to guide and encourage us. It is God's Grace that saves, and that Grace is the free gift of forgiveness from sins that bind us to hell and death. Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Rom 8:1 Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, Rom 8:2 because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life set me free from the law of sin and death.
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IsakuRain wrote:

But what I don't understand is why Atheists are trying to disprove something that THEY BELIEVE doesn't exist.


You're referring to anti-theists. Anti-theism=rejection and dislike/hatred of theism. People like that affirm their beliefs by projecting them on to everyone else. They can't be satisfied with simply believing that they are right, they have to try and make everyone know and believe that they are right. They don't have any faith in their own beliefs, so they try to destroy other people's faith in order to bring them down to their level.

Just know that not all atheists are like that. There's people like that in every religion and non-religion, but of course not everyone in every religion/non-religion is like that.

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Cuddlebuns wrote:


IsakuRain wrote:

But what I don't understand is why Atheists are trying to disprove something that THEY BELIEVE doesn't exist.


You're referring to anti-theists. Anti-theism=rejection and dislike/hatred of theism. People like that affirm their beliefs by projecting them on to everyone else. They can't be satisfied with simply believing that they are right, they have to try and make everyone know and believe that they are right. They don't have any faith in their own beliefs, so they try to destroy other people's faith in order to bring them down to their level.

Just know that not all atheists are like that. There's people like that in every religion and non-religion, but of course not everyone in every religion/non-religion is like that.



Thank you for the explanation.
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to be honest I don't know =_= and even if your are saved you can not keep going out and commenting the same sin over and over agian and hope to get forgiveness for it, because it does not work that way.
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