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Origin of modern human
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I just had an interesting read that says that...

The anatomically modern humans had existed since 500.000 years ago. But it's not until 50.000 years ago that we develop things that made us what we are today like.. Languages, religion, art, tools, etc.

The curious thing is that prior to the 50.000 years benchmark, humans stayed dumb like it's cousin the neanderthals. But during this benchmark era, the Upper Paleolithic revolution happened.

Suddenly humans started to use a more complex tools than they've been using for the past 450k years ago or so. We started to use languages. Etc etc.

Now this bit of fact right here has been disputed amongst archeologist/scientist/historian etc. Some say that it's not true and our modernity behaviour happened gradually instead of very sudden like I just wrote above. People from both side of the arguments still look for more evidence to support their theories.

But if it's true... What do you guys think happened during this era that caused us to radically be more advanced all the sudden?

Lots of people are gonna think i'm nuts for this but.. If this bit of fact right here is true. Maybe some technologically advanced alien race intervene in our course of evolution and give us our wisdom?

Or like.. a meteor crashed and it contains lots of radiation that genetically mutated our ancestors smarter?
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Or like, natural selection favored the organisms who were better at using tools and communicating with the other organisms through the developing language(s) and behaviors?
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supermalv wrote:

I just had an interesting read that says that...

The anatomically modern humans had existed since 500.000 years ago. But it's not until 50.000 years ago that we develop things that made us what we are today like.. Languages, religion, art, tools, etc.

The curious thing is that prior to the 50.000 years benchmark, humans stayed dumb like it's cousin the neanderthals. But during this benchmark era, the Upper Paleolithic revolution happened.

Suddenly humans started to use a more complex tools than they've been using for the past 450k years ago or so. We started to use languages. Etc etc.

Now this bit of fact right here has been disputed amongst archeologist/scientist/historian etc. Some say that it's not true and our modernity behaviour happened gradually instead of very sudden like I just wrote above. People from both side of the arguments still look for more evidence to support their theories.

But if it's true... What do you guys think happened during this era that caused us to radically be more advanced all the sudden?

Lots of people are gonna think i'm nuts for this but.. If this bit of fact right here is true. Maybe some technologically advanced alien race intervene in our course of evolution and give us our wisdom?

Or like.. a meteor crashed and it contains lots of radiation that genetically mutated our ancestors smarter?


I would recommend anyone interested in this subject to read Guns, Germs, and Steel.

It basically talks all about the origins of man and civilization, and its extremely well written.
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Nayru wrote:

I would recommend anyone interested in this subject to read Guns, Germs, and Steel.

It basically talks all about the origins of man and civilization, and its extremely well written.


ya i just read the synopsis on wiki. definetely sounds like a book i'd love to read. thx for the recomendation
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I would say it is based on adaptation. Neanderthals and Cro'magnons were thought to live in tribes or something like that. They could have discovered fire and taught it for generations to come.
Evolution also might have played a role. Humans have missing genomes that supports the growth of the muscle masseter. That muscle is what raises your jaws by the way. Our Masseters are smaller than other mammals. Us only go up to the temporal part of the skull, unlike in other mammals, it covers the parietal part of the cranium. This lead to the enlargement of the brain's casing and its growth. This might have allowed the pre-modern humans to be able to learn quicker and rationalize better than the other animals. Besides, out brains are more developed than other mammals when it comes to thinking. The adaptation comes in here.
But this is just based on my limited knowledge ( can even be ill-informations from biased teachers/books/articles/journals/etc).
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_human_evolution
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supermalv wrote:

I just had an interesting read that says that...

The anatomically modern humans had existed since 500.000 years ago. But it's not until 50.000 years ago that we develop things that made us what we are today like.. Languages, religion, art, tools, etc.

The curious thing is that prior to the 50.000 years benchmark, humans stayed dumb like it's cousin the neanderthals. But during this benchmark era, the Upper Paleolithic revolution happened.

Suddenly humans started to use a more complex tools than they've been using for the past 450k years ago or so. We started to use languages. Etc etc.

Now this bit of fact right here has been disputed amongst archeologist/scientist/historian etc. Some say that it's not true and our modernity behaviour happened gradually instead of very sudden like I just wrote above. People from both side of the arguments still look for more evidence to support their theories.

But if it's true... What do you guys think happened during this era that caused us to radically be more advanced all the sudden?

Lots of people are gonna think i'm nuts for this but.. If this bit of fact right here is true. Maybe some technologically advanced alien race intervene in our course of evolution and give us our wisdom?

Or like.. a meteor crashed and it contains lots of radiation that genetically mutated our ancestors smarter?


I be honest and say that this topic is way over my head, and beyond me but it does look interesting. If you have any articles links which I can read besides wiki, it will be much appreciated.
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There was a article recently in the news that put the common use of fire back to about 800,000 BC. There already are studies of how fish eaters gained more intelligence, but foods without balance do not allow them to live long enough to develop or ascend to the next level. The planet has been covered by humanoids for a long time but they never had meeting places until about 17,000 years ago according to just the ages of the ruins being dug up now.

I would say the Ice Age that happened about 12,000 BC resulted in a snap evolution on brain usage. A lot more people probably survived in pockets all around the world than is listed but they all focused on what can we eat here and here alone. Thats the place they decided to stop roaming and made their homes because it was so bad weather all around it curtailed the normal hunter gather like behavior. Thats my best guess for free.

There is also a photo of the Evolution of Man someone made which has a full line of them up to a really fat guy in a recliner with a muscle shirt on and a remote control. Now that one was realistic.
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I never like how the neanderthals are portrayed as dumb. I believe they probably where actually smarter then humans. The question all scientist want to know is, did both species at one point cross paths and combine genes. Human beings where pretty simple minded creatures until around the 50,000 year time period. I'd like to think it was hybrid vigor that was the cause of our intelligence. But even so, our we as intelligent as we think we our? A majority of people still cannot let go of past relics for very feeble reasons.
Posted 1/14/09

Teresa_Yuuki wrote:



lol that fella infront of the computer has the same pose as I do 50% of my awake time :p

On topic.
If this is indeed the case, it's probably a mix of natural selection and perhaps that various groups of "tribes" has exchanged ideas/experiences.

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Okazu606 wrote:


Teresa_Yuuki wrote:



lol that fella infront of the computer has the same pose as I do 50% of my awake time :p

On topic.
If this is indeed the case, it's probably a mix of natural selection and perhaps that various groups of "tribes" has exchanged ideas/experiences.



dats sad, yo
Posted 1/14/09

Teresa_Yuuki wrote:


Okazu606 wrote:


Teresa_Yuuki wrote:



lol that fella infront of the computer has the same pose as I do 50% of my awake time :p

On topic.
If this is indeed the case, it's probably a mix of natural selection and perhaps that various groups of "tribes" has exchanged ideas/experiences.



dats sad, yo


Why?

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Perhaps it could be due to the arrival of an threat that could have threatened humanity if it didn't 'develop' a more social life style, ie language, settled societies instead of nomadic tribes, the idea of family and all these things that are considered 'modern'.

Just a guess
Posted 1/20/09
this is interesting.

there are many theories formulating.. lol.

what about the pyramids? i dont think mere human strength can lift lrage, heavy blocks like that.
alien help maybe?

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