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Question... What in the world do these arguments about crime rate and copyright infringement have to do with the original topic of Lolicons?

Here's one way of looking at it... This isn't just something for the guys. I think girls enjoy the mystique of the loli's... also... there isn't a stereotype for the lolicons...

Without getting overly psychological about this... There are anime titles where the young girl is actively persuing an older male. In our society you can sit there and say, well if she was 18 and he was 40 that would be acceptable... but the truth is that girls have fantasies about older men at far younger ages than that. This situation is relatable - just as teenage males put up posters of models - girls place posters of their ideal older men.

Of course you want to approach it from both sides of the coin. I am older now... when I see something "loli", I'm more amused with it. I'm amused with the prospect of these events. I'm amused at seeing how it's almost always a taboo, shunned and horrifying... That's society for you. Who's to say you can't have stories about taboo topics? That is most of the reason why they still exist!

I'm not saying that us older guys should be out hunting down young girls... I personally don't find that appealing... as most males... I grew up with posters of well-developed, bikini-clad, women on my walls... I guess that's still my preference. However, the stories themselves pose an interesting angle, that doesn't happen often... this adds all kinds of variables that change the influences in your attachment to the story... this makes the story different.

Sure, in real life, these things would be illegal... but so is murder. You think people are going to stop writing stories about murder because it's illegal? I don't think so... these stories keep people guessing... they put your mind into situations that are uncommon and sometimes uncomfortable. I think stories that give you a little nudge to ponder your thoughts on a topic are good from time to time... if we just leave these topics in the closet... I think we'd lose alot of those stories that make people think.

Think about it... how many animes do you see where Guy A (Age 12 to 15) likes Girl B (Also 12 to 15)? I'm not 12 to 15 anymore... but I remember being 12 to 15. Does that mean now that I'm in my 30's I can't enjoy those stories because I'm too old for them? They're good stories... now if we change it to Girl A (12 to 15) likes Man B (Age 24 to 30) - that story changes for me... It's a whole new angle on that story.... sometimes it's funny...sometimes scary... sometimes it's just unbelieveable.

But when I see the stories where the 30 year old guy stalks the 12 year old girl... I have a different response... like "Oh my God..." I get horrified... but I also get horrified when I think of murder... that emotional response is what makes the story and plot interesting to me...

Maybe I'm just hopping up on the soap box here... but hey... a story is a story. Caligula performed incest with his sisters and prostituted them... Jerry Lee Lewis married his Second cousin when he was 23 and she was 13... Samurai had homosexual relations with boys as young as 13 called wakashu-do (Shudo for short) which means "Way of the young man..."

The difference with those examples is... they are real.... the stories still exist... are we going to make those stories illegal too?

Not all Lolicon (or Shotacon) stories are just about the sexual relations... on the contrary... most have very intricate and emotional stories of how these relationships affect the lives and futures of these characters... many times with tragic consequences. I'm not saying go out and search for lolicon films because they are great... I'm just saying there is a place for the stories that take a different approach, use taboos, and make people uncomfortable.... I honestly think it breaks up some of the monotony of teenage love stories.

That's my 2 cents... take it for what it's worth. (At least I tried to keep it on topic.)

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DomFortress wrote:

Once again, I ask you to pay attention on how the practical wisdom of supply and demand works; if you don't have a demand for the supply yet, then make it look like there is with media whitewashing, aka advertisement. Seriously, do you know the sales figures of all those lolicon related merchandises, thereby you know for a fact that a majority of people in Japan are actually buying those products and considering lolicon to be popular in Japan?


So you are saying that nobody wants lolicon in Japan, they just made it seem like it with advertising?

how naive can you be. Lolicon is sold in stores, internet and a lot of other places all around Japan. It´s not something that is small, lolicon is actually big in Japan.


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When the majority of people cannot tolerate a social taboo in real life, then they can't even fantasize it to gain pleasure from it, period. Otherwise, their law would've legalize such social behavior, thereby not making it a taboo. That's the practical wisdom of a law obeying society, as oppose to your own double-standard just for yourself to enjoy lolicon, which it's just hypocrisy.


Lolicon is legal in Japan, they even sell loli mangas in some bookstores too.......

What i meant is that most of the japanese people don´t think you will go and rape children just because you are reading a loli manga. They are more openminded and they understand the difference between drawings and real.

Something the Western people seem to have a hard time to understand.......


DomFortress wrote:

Yes, unregulated. Otherwise how did you saw KnJ without you purchasing the authentic R2 Japanese anime DVD? By watching unregulated release and distribution of illegitimate fansubs, made from illegal raw files of copyrighted & licensed KnJ DVD rips. And those were from your statement.


So, it have to be a authentic Region 2 DVD for me to not brake the rules.......

Then i will always brake the law since Anime never come in region 2, only region 1. And KnJ have never been released outside Japan so it´s impossible for me to actually get my hands on it.


DomFortress wrote:

And apparently, you personally liked lolicon so much, that you would commit copyright infringement just to obtain it. If you did obtain KnJ anime DVD legally, then I wouldn't have a problem with you and your legal privacy. But you committed a crime first and foremost by viewing and possessing of illegal virtual child pornography, in the form of illegitimate KnJ fansubs.


1) As already stated, no American company have bought the license for the KnJ DVD and since it´s not available outside Japan fansubs is the only way to get it. They don´t lose money when people do download fansubs since they have never made any money on it outside Japan at all.

So no. I haven´t committed copyright infringement at all.

2) And where is lolicon illegal? Not in my country at least, so i haven´t committed any crime at all.

And please, this thread is about lolicon Dom, take your stupid crusade somewhere else.


sidnarged wrote:

Question... What in the world do these arguments about crime rate and copyright infringement have to do with the original topic of Lolicons?


Nothing at all.

But Dom is on a holy crusade to get all the people in the world to understand that fansubs are "evil" and the devils work an that we have to pay bloodprices to the "gods" (read Anime companies) so they can make more Anime and and only allow specially selected people to see them because of their outdated policies.

Just ignore him when he starts with that, he is so brainwashed that it´s impossible to get him to understand that fansubs also have a positive effect on the Anime sales....
Posted 1/20/09

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how naive can you be. Lolicon is sold in stores, internet and a lot of other places all around Japan. It´s not something that is small, lolicon is actually big in Japan.

And just how many people that you know who actually bought those lolicon related merchandises? Well not yourself of course. Because you would rather just steal copyrighted & licensed lolicon anime from the lolicon anime makers for your pedophilia fantasy, by watching and possessing illegitimate fansubs of KnJ.


What i meant is that most of the japanese people don´t think you will go and rape children just because you are reading a loli manga

So what makes it OK for you to commit crime by stealing copyrighted & licensed lolicon anime from the lolicon anime makers for your pedophilia fantasy, as in watching and possessing illegitimate fansubs of KnJ? Just what kind of double standard are you setting for your right of possessing illegal virtual child pornography, in the form of copyright infringed illegitimate lolicon?


Anime never come in region 2, only region 1. And KnJ have never been released outside Japan so it´s impossible for me to actually get my hands on it.

Earth to Anyien; authentic Japanese anime DVD always comes in Region 2 format for European compatibility. And it's available for international online purchasing and worldwide shipping.


I haven´t committed copyright infringement at all.

Then just what do you call watching illegitimate fansubs made of stolen copyrighted & licensed intellectual properties known as anime?


fansubs also have a positive effect on the Anime sales....

You're the living example of self-contradiction. Here you claimed that illegitimate fansubs have a positive effect on anime sales, but you OTOH had only been watching illegitimate fansubs, because you don't buy authentic anime DVD when they're clearly available for international online purchasing and worldwide shipping.

And the worst part is, as long as you don't support legitimacy & authenticity on lolicon anime, you are hereby committed of child crime by illegally stealing, watching, and possessing virtual child pornographic materials with illegitimate fansubs.
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DomFortress wrote:

And just how many people that you know who actually bought those lolicon related merchandises?



Those who live in Japan buy it, some of those who live outside Japan have friends/families that live there and get them to buy and send it. But since most of them don´t have any way to buy it they probably download the Doujins/games.


DomFortress wrote:

Well not yourself of course. Because you would rather just steal copyrighted & licensed lolicon anime from the lolicon anime makers for your pedophilia fantasy, by watching and possessing illegitimate fansubs of KnJ.



You know that you just sound more and more stupid with that crap of yours right?

And if i lived in Japan, had friends or families there or went to a trip there i would buy my lolicon merchandises. I would love to have all those doujins and games i have in paper/DVD format.

But, since i don´t live there, don´t have family/friends that lives there or have the money to go on a trip there i just have to download my games and Doujins.


DomFortress wrote:

So what makes it OK for you to commit crime by stealing copyrighted & licensed lolicon anime from the lolicon anime makers for your pedophilia fantasy, as in watching and possessing illegitimate fansubs of KnJ? Just what kind of double standard are you setting for your right of possessing illegal virtual child pornography, in the form of copyright infringed illegitimate lolicon?


And what have that to do with what i said?

This is a thread about lolicon Anime, not a places where you can spew out more of your "fansubs is evil" crap...

And i don´t have any pedophilic fantasies. I only like drawings so don´t put me in the same boat as you who can´t even understand the difference between fantasy and reality.


DomFortress wrote:

Earth to Anyien; authentic Japanese anime DVD always comes in Region 2 format for European compatibility. And it's available for international online purchasing and worldwide shipping.


Then i would love for you too give me a link to a site that does that, and with english subs of course. Because all the sites i´m using to buy my Anime, and the stores here only have Region 1.

I still haven´t found a single R2 Anime on those sites.


DomFortress wrote:

Then just what do you call watching illegitimate fansubs made of stolen copyrighted & licensed intellectual properties known as anime?


Stolen?

Tell me, how do you know that it is stolen? Many fansubbers and translators actually BUY what they work with. So it is actually a big possibility that one of the people in the subgroup bought the DVD.

True, to sub it and upload it to a torrent site may be illegal, but it doesn't mean that they have stolen it.


DomFortress wrote:


You're the living example of self-contradiction. Here you claimed that illegitimate fansubs have a positive effect on anime sales, but you OTOH had only been watching illegitimate fansubs, because you don't buy authentic anime DVD when they're clearly available for international online purchasing and worldwide shipping.


Please do yourself a favor and and try to train your brain a little bit so you can remember at least a week in the past.....

In all the threads we have argued i have told you that i use fansubs as a preview to see if i like a serie/movie/OVA before i buy it. If i like it i buy it, if i don´t like it i don´t buy it.

And as i said, none of the sites i use have KnJ for sale, and i really doubt that it will ever be licensed and sold outside Japan because it takes up taboos that the Western world is too afraid to acknowledge exist.


DomFortress wrote:

And the worst part is, as long as you don't support legitimacy & authenticity on lolicon anime, you are hereby committed of child crime by illegally stealing, watching, and possessing virtual child pornographic materials with illegitimate fansubs.


Well, that is the funny thing. You see, i have to follow the laws of MY COUNTRY not Japan or the US. And since Anime never get´s licensed here, i don´t break any laws.

Oh, and stealing would mean that i have a copy of it, since i don´t have it burned on a DVD nor on my HD that claim is void.

And since lolicon is legal here it doesn't go under virtual child porn so i don´t do anything wrong there either.
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i thought lolicons are people who are sexually attracted to girls with a "child-like" appearance?
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i thought lolicons are people who are sexually attracted to girls with a "child-like" appearance?





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serpentura wrote:

i thought lolicons are people who are sexually attracted to girls with a "child-like" appearance?







kodomo no jikan again? LOL
anyway i was talking about if lolicons are the guys who are attracted with child or girls with child like appearance.

and a counter on your mot LOL

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lolicon is just another word for pediphile, a type of Paraphilia
Paraphilias: a sexual disorder in which the person's preferred method of sexual arousal and fulfillment is through sexual behavior that is unusual or socially unacceptable
Paraphilias called PEDOPHILIA: deriving sexual arousal and pleasure from touching or having sexual relations with prepubescent (non-sexually mature) children or fantasizing about such contact
Pedophile: A person who has recurring sexual thoughts fantasies, or engages in sexual actions toward prepubescent children

you learn this type of stuff in psyc


You've got it right. And Anime will continue to look REAL BAD if this sex lolicon stuff is considerred OK.
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serpentura wrote:

i thought lolicons are people who are sexually attracted to girls with a "child-like" appearance?







The caption under this kodomo no jikan picture is incorrect. That anime does not correctly portray the REAL WORLD. In the REAL WORLD, grammar school kids do not talk about fellatio, ask their teacher to have sex with them, or hold up signs saying " I hope you ejaculate inside me". Not unless they've been sexually abused, or been exposed to porn or some other kind of sexual show/movie... ... like kodomo no jikan. And this is the danger of this child porn anime. And in REAL LIFE, at least in the USA, if a grammar school kid was talking/acting in such sexual ways, child protective services would be called in to find out who the pedophile was or who was exposing the kids to sexual material.

Posted 1/20/09

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True, to sub it and upload it to a torrent site may be illegal, but it doesn't mean that they have stolen it.

That's not a "may be", that's copyright infringement via illegal duplication & modification right there! Every authentic anime DVD come with this authorized and limited license disclaimer in their own local language with no exception:

This licence is subject to the following conditions:

(a) You are not permitted to modify the Content.
(b) You are not permitted to make use of the Content for commercial gain.
(c) You must keep intact all copyright notices for the Content and provide, reasonable to the medium or means you are utilizing, the name of the Copyright holder and the title of the Content if supplied. Such credit may be provided in any reasonable manner; provided, however, that in the case of a collective work, at a minimum such credit will appear where any other comparable authorship credit appears and in a manner at least as prominent as such other comparable authorship.

And since you watched the whole anime series in HD via illegitimate fansubs, made by copyright infringing illegal duplication & modification, and without you buying the authentic anime DVD, just what kind of double standard you're making for yourself by calling it "a preview"?

Also, here's what the Criminal Code of the Kingdom of Norway has to say about child pornography:

Source: http://www.legislationline.org/documents/section/criminal-codes(under Criminal Code of the Kingdom of Norway)

§ 211. Any person shall be liable to fines or imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years or to both who

a) gives a public lecture or arranges a public performance or exhibition of an indecent or pornographic nature,

b) publishes, offers for sale or hire or in any other way attempts to disseminate, or with intent to so disseminate imports indecent or pornographic writings, pictures, films, videograms or the like,

c) delivers indecent or pornographic writings, pictures, films, videograms or the like to persons under 18 years of age,

d) possesses or imports pictures, films, videograms, or the like in which any person who is, must be considered to be or is presented as being under 16 years of age is shown in an indecent or pornographic manner.

In this section indecent or pornographic depictions mean sexual depictions that seem offensive or in any other way are likely to have a humanly degrading or corrupting effect, including sexual depictions showing children, animals, violence, duress, and sadism.

An accomplice shall be liable to the same penalty.

Any person who negligently commits any such act as is referred to in this section shall be liable to fines or imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months or both.

Any proprietor or superior who wilfully or negligently omits to prevent the commission in his business of any such act as is referred to in this section shall be liable to the same penalty.

In passing sentence the fact that the indecent or pornographic depictions include the use of children, animals, violence, duress, and sadism shall be treated as an aggravating circumstance.

This section shall not apply to any film or videogram that the National Board of Film Censors has by prior control approved for commercial exhibition or sale.

So you violated section 211 of the Criminal Code of the Kingdom of Norway, by disseminating yourself with illegitimate fansubs of KnJ(not approved for commercial exhibition or sale by the National Board of Film Censors), which contains sexual depictions showing children with offensive, humanly degrading, and corrupting effect.

Furthermore:

§ 395. Any person who unlawfully puts himself or another person in possession of real property, or who is accessory thereto, shall be liable to fines or imprisonment for a term not exceeding three months.

You also violated section 395 of the Criminal Code of the Kingdom of Norway, when you unlawfully gained possession on real copyrighted & licensed intellectual property, when you saw and knew the entire KnJ contents by watching illegitimate fansubs of KnJ.
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The caption under this kodomo no jikan picture is incorrect. That anime does not correctly portray the REAL WORLD. In the REAL WORLD, grammar school kids do not talk about fellatio, ask their teacher to have sex with them, or hold up signs saying " I hope you ejaculate inside me". Not unless they've been sexually abused, or been exposed to porn or some other kind of sexual show/movie... ... like kodomo no jikan. And this is the danger of this child porn anime. And in REAL LIFE, at least in the USA, if a grammar school kid was talking/acting in such sexual ways, child protective services would be called in to find out who the pedophile was or who was exposing the kids to sexual material.



*yawns*

Well since I'm the one who originally made that mot I guess I'm the one who has to play with you now.

I never said it correctly portrayed the REAL WORLD, I merely implied that it presented the consequences and reactions that one would expect others to perform and have if they ever bore witness to situation like that. It being an anime allows it to take and distort aspects of reality and if you would have read the series then you would have known that child services were called in at one point. Rin being perverted is actually normal for her age (albeit exaggerated) since I've had to take care of small children for a while now I know they learn things from one another at school that adults would view as inappropriate for their age.

Believe it or not there are children out there with more sexual knowledge than some adults these days.
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mrsentimental wrote:
The caption under this kodomo no jikan picture is incorrect. That anime does not correctly portray the REAL WORLD. In the REAL WORLD, grammar school kids do not talk about fellatio, ask their teacher to have sex with them, or hold up signs saying " I hope you ejaculate inside me". Not unless they've been sexually abused, or been exposed to porn or some other kind of sexual show/movie... ... like kodomo no jikan. And this is the danger of this child porn anime. And in REAL LIFE, at least in the USA, if a grammar school kid was talking/acting in such sexual ways, child protective services would be called in to find out who the pedophile was or who was exposing the kids to sexual material.


I had a similar thought (i.e., if this had been real, the teacher would have been remiss for not reporting her as a possible victim of sexual abuse).

That said, you might be surprised how young kids pick can pick up inappropriate language and behavior from other kids.


DomFortress:

I suspect you've never actually seen KnJ, or certainly not the entire series. Unless there was something in the censored parts in later episodes (the early ones I saw were uncensored), there is no explicit material in it. I have yet to see any reasonable person consider anything as pornographic that lacked both explicit nudity and sexual acts. I don't even recall that series having an age restriction here (unlike Steel Angel Kurumi, for example), so apparently CR considered it PG-13.


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DomFortress:

I suspect you've never actually seen KnJ, or certainly not the entire series. Unless there was something in the censored parts in later episodes (the early ones I saw were uncensored), there is no explicit material in it. I have yet to see any reasonable person consider anything as pornographic that lacked both explicit nudity and sexual acts. I don't even recall that series having an age restriction here (unlike Steel Angel Kurumi, for example), so apparently CR considered it PG-13.

However, the the domestic anime DVD version of KnJ is filled with sexual depictions showing children with offensive, humanly degrading, and corrupting effect like this:
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mrsentimental wrote:

The caption under this kodomo no jikan picture is incorrect. That anime does not correctly portray the REAL WORLD. In the REAL WORLD, grammar school kids do not talk about fellatio, ask their teacher to have sex with them, or hold up signs saying " I hope you ejaculate inside me". Not unless they've been sexually abused, or been exposed to porn or some other kind of sexual show/movie... ... like kodomo no jikan. And this is the danger of this child porn anime. And in REAL LIFE, at least in the USA, if a grammar school kid was talking/acting in such sexual ways, child protective services would be called in to find out who the pedophile was or who was exposing the kids to sexual material.


Oh? Enlighten me, how do you know that? Have you talked to every grammar school kid in the world, and read their mind to know that?

Open up your eyes to the real world and don´t live in your own fantasy world any longer sentimental. Even if they don´t show it kids is sexual beings, they have even found out that babies do feel good when they touch themself, they can even get orgasms.

The only reason why parents and other adults see children doing something sexual is because the children only does it when no adults is present.

I did things like that when i was in kindergarten, even when i was in school we did things like that, and we didn't even knew what porn was back then.

I can bet that even you played those games when you where a kid.

You need to open your eyes and understand that all children isn't the angels you want them to be, they have desires too, just like adults. And they can even be more cruel than adults, it´just that people don´t want to see it since they have the fantasy that children don´t have anything evil in them.


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True, to sub it and upload it to a torrent site may be illegal, but it doesn't mean that they have stolen it.

That's not a "may be", that's copyright infringement via illegal duplication & modification right there! Every authentic anime DVD come with this authorized and limited license disclaimer in their own local language with no exception


That was my bad. To say "may be" is wrong. what that person did is illegal.


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And since you watched the whole anime series in HD via illegitimate fansubs, made by copyright infringing illegal duplication & modification, and without you buying the authentic anime DVD, just what kind of double standard you're making for yourself by calling it "a preview"?


"Double standard"?

I don´t see how it is a "double standard", i watch the fansubs and if i like the serie/movie/OVA i buy it when it comes out, if i don´t like it i don´t buy it. The companies actually earn money on me because of fansubs. If i couldn´t see if i liked the serie first i would never have bought in the first place.

So, at least in my case, they only win since i would never have bought anything if i couldn´t see how it was first.

And as i said, none of the sites i use sell the KnJ DVD, so it´s impossible for me to actually get a hold of it. You said yourself that there is sites that sells it in R2 and sends in international, i asked you if you actually had a link to those sites since i am interested in them.

But, instead of actually give me the links, or even the sites name, you just continue to blabber about how i the license law.

To me it seems more like you don´t want to help because then you can´t continue pestering me about how i breaks the laws......


DomFortress wrote:

Also, here's what the Criminal Code of the Kingdom of Norway has to say about child pornography:



So you violated section 211 of the Criminal Code of the Kingdom of Norway, by disseminating yourself with illegitimate fansubs of KnJ(not approved for commercial exhibition or sale by the National Board of Film Censors), which contains sexual depictions showing children with offensive, humanly degrading, and corrupting effect.


Wow, i applaud you. You managed to find all that on Wiki............

Only one problem then. All of that is only valid if it is real images i drawings where you have a hard time telling if it is a drawing or a photo (example: Drawm portraits). Since it´s obvious that lolicon images isn't drawn with a child model it won´t go under that law.

Sorry, good try but a failure. As long as the image/movie doesn't have hurt any real children it isn't touched by that law.


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Furthermore:

§ 395. Any person who unlawfully puts himself or another person in possession of real property, or who is accessory thereto, shall be liable to fines or imprisonment for a term not exceeding three months.

You also violated section 395 of the Criminal Code of the Kingdom of Norway, when you unlawfully gained possession on real copyrighted & licensed intellectual property, when you saw and knew the entire KnJ contents by watching illegitimate fansubs of KnJ.


And yet again you shoot yourself in the foot.

Read it more closely. It says in possession of real property, meaning that to break that law i need to have it physically on my harddrive. But since i saw it online i´m not touched by that law either.

Not to mention that that law are talking about movies and shows that are licensed in Norway. Since Anime never get licensed here i will never break that law even if i just download it.

One proof of on that is that i sent in a Harddrive that i had trouble to read with some Anime shows on and i got it back in working order with a note on what they had done with it. I never heard from the police or anyone else on the matter with those shows even when the folder was in plain sight and was named Anime.
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mrsentimental wrote:



The caption under this kodomo no jikan picture is incorrect. That anime does not correctly portray the REAL WORLD. In the REAL WORLD, grammar school kids do not talk about fellatio, ask their teacher to have sex with them, or hold up signs saying " I hope you ejaculate inside me". Not unless they've been sexually abused, or been exposed to porn or some other kind of sexual show/movie... ... like kodomo no jikan. And this is the danger of this child porn anime. And in REAL LIFE, at least in the USA, if a grammar school kid was talking/acting in such sexual ways, child protective services would be called in to find out who the pedophile was or who was exposing the kids to sexual material.



*yawns*

Well since I'm the one who originally made that mot I guess I'm the one who has to play with you now.

I never said it correctly portrayed the REAL WORLD, I merely implied that it presented the consequences and reactions that one would expect others to perform and have if they ever bore witness to situation like that. It being an anime allows it to take and distort aspects of reality and if you would have read the series then you would have known that child services were called in at one point. Rin being perverted is actually normal for her age (albeit exaggerated) since I've had to take care of small children for a while now I know they learn things from one another at school that adults would view as inappropriate for their age.

Believe it or not there are children out there with more sexual knowledge than some adults these days.


Well that's important work, your helping out with the small children. If you're doing this on a regular basis, you've got to know your stuff. Little kids can have some sexual sensations in their bodies, but puberty is when the interest and stronger sexual urges typically get going. If the grammar school kids are talking /acting in sexual ways, they've learned it from someone else. If they get stuff from other kids, it's because those other kids learned it from seomeone else. Pedophiles want to believe (and want to convince us) that kids want to have sex with them. That's the pedophile way. Kids need to play, and learn academics, and eat the right stuff to grow healthy, and be kept safe by us adults/ parent types. They don't need sex. They aren't anywhere close to beng able to take care of any child they make themselves by having sex.

Hopefully the kids you're watching don't get exposed to this sex stuff. You might tell the adults/parents you know about being a fan of kodomo no jikan and see what they think, but I don't expect you'll get a favorable response.

So, one adult to another, how do you handle it if one of your kids were to start acting/talking in sexual ways?
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