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Naruto Shippuden 92 is up!
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Posted 1/15/09

hyperaj wrote:

people complaining about fillers need to understand that if the anime didnt have fillers it would catch up to the manga story line to fast so there would be a longer wait between episodes.


I agree

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Here's the problem I have, I signed up for CR mainly for Naruto, but found other Anime's that I liked once I had joined... The big thing that drew me into signing up was the quality of the 720p streams. It was crystal clear and played perfectly on my 32inch LCD...

Then eps 92 came out... After waiting for a few hours just to be able to stream the H264... It's currently paused halfway through the episode because it's taking about 5 mins just to buffer one minute of footage. 420p won't even get past the opening credits before it won't buffer anymore and the quality is, well... to put it frankly, sub-par.

720p, doesn't even load at all... So, to put it bluntly, who f***ed up here?

TV Tokyo when they streamed? Doubtful.
CR when they got the eps to Dub, not getting the right versions? Possible
CR's dubbers/encoders doing a piss-poor job of encoding once it had been subbed? Again, Possible.


Why don't CR just grab the RAW, which is vastly superior in quality, sub that... Get the sub right by using the correct translations (Frog's, not Toad's)... Read their translations so that they're not making sentences that make no/little sense and apologize..

Or, Shinji posts an apology to us, explain why/where/how the f***up occurred with the episode and why we shouldn't demand our money back for a lack of service rendered/product that isn't as advertised.

DB and other groups stopped subbing Naruto because CR and Viz got licenses to legally sub it, the least you could do is provide a better quality sub when people are paying for it, than people who did it for free, because they loved the show.


Otherwise, It just goes to show that CR doesn't care about the Anime, or who watches it... They just care about the $$ that they're making and that's it.
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Posted 1/15/09

Methor
Why don't CR just grab the RAW, which is vastly superior in quality, sub that.


It would take more than 1 hour past the broadcast to do that. What I don't get is why they don't get a copy of the broadcast transport stream (or better and uncompressed DigiBeta or whatever they use for masters) sometime well before it airs. I'll admit I don't know much about how broadcasters encode their video but they must have a master copy somewhere sometime before it airs.

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Mkay, a bit from me aswell.

I came here among hundreds of other former DB users for 1 reason: watching Shippuuden after DB stopped subbing it. I checked out streaming quality on 480p, it was quite impressive, no lags in streaming, so i was expecting a lot from 720p aswell. Also CR claimed that subbed version of new episode will be available here after a couple of hours after airing in Japan. All this was enough for me to make my mind and try premium account for 1 month.

What do i actually get here? Extremely laggy streaming, you have to leave it buffering for quite a while every now and then to actually watch for a couple of minutes. FPS is very disappointing aswell. Compared to that test sample http://www.crunchyroll.com/hd_demo?src=showmedia.hq which i got to see before getting a premium account, the quality of latest episode is... well... pathetic.

I strongly believe that it was caused by a huge number of new users, willing to see latest episode, and high popularity of Shippuuden overall, which caused CR servers to work extremely slow. But in any case, it's not the problem of premium users, it's a problem of CR, that needs to be solved. The whole point of getting a premium account is to actually be the"first to see new episodes", if i have to wait a day or something to stream it with appropriate speed, there is no reason to prolong my account, i can get it from torrents next day. So i really hope that the streaming speed problem will be solved ASAP.

Another point is subs... Again i compare it to DB, which i have been enjoying for past several years. Karaoke for opening and ending, or at least subs? Some nice fonts? More attention to quality? Pretty please?

So to sum up: either CR fix all those problems, and meet high expectations of Shippuuden fans, or...well...was nice to meet ya, cya, gl and hf, hello there, torrents.
Posted 1/15/09
92 was disappointing video loaded so slowly and quality could have been alot better
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Posted 1/15/09
Look all: I understand the frustration that there are problems with servers and restrictions on what too watch.
Do remember that this has just started. Give them at least till end of januari/ februari to sort everything out. I can imagine there are quite complicated problems.
They are working on it being fixed, but it is complicated...
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Posted 1/15/09
narutard... narutard... narutard... narutard... narutard... i'm a narutard

i'm a former DB user, switch for naruto and paid for a year, but i love all the other anime on cr, and its anime that i would never thought i would enjoy... 2009 cr is like a new mmo, with bugs and other problems and i am willing to ride it out till they get it right... just hurry up with the fixes shinji
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Posted 1/15/09
The speed is so slow it takes an hour to buffer and view one episode. Also, about the sub, if Dattebayo did a better job subbing then let them do it >.<

Inacceptable:
- Poor image quality
- Loading time beyond extreme with no real-time for a very fast DSL(twice the loading time buffering+viewing)
- Subtitles butchered and whole lines missing


Get your stuff right =p
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Posted 1/15/09
Naruto an Gintama what a great combo....
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Posted 1/15/09

DigitalDeviant wrote:


Methor
Why don't CR just grab the RAW, which is vastly superior in quality, sub that.


It would take more than 1 hour past the broadcast to do that. What I don't get is why they don't get a copy of the broadcast transport stream (or better and uncompressed DigiBeta or whatever they use for masters) sometime well before it airs. I'll admit I don't know much about how broadcasters encode their video but they must have a master copy somewhere sometime before it airs.



IMO, the speed just isn't the issue anymore... not for a lot of us.

Naruto Shippuuden airs I think at 5:00am or 5:30am Eastern Time (where I am in the US). While my schedule really is messed up enough where I am awake at this hour (still awake), my priority at 5:00am is not "OMG OMG OMG I HAVE TO CATCH NARUTO!!!!"

CR... I PAID FOR QUALITY. TIMING IS SECONDARY. I AM INFURIATED THAT THE QUALITY WAS A BAIT-AND-SWITCH. IF YOU NEED TO TAKE A LITTLE LONGER TO ENCODE BETTER STREAMS, PLEASE DO SO.


unnanah wrote:

What do i actually get here? Extremely laggy streaming, you have to leave it buffering for quite a while every now and then to actually watch for a couple of minutes. FPS is very disappointing as well. Compared to that test sample http://www.crunchyroll.com/hd_demo?src=showmedia.hq which i got to see before getting a premium account, the quality of latest episode is... well... pathetic.



Thanks for posting the link to the sample video. The difference is striking.

The sample video plays smoother than the RAW! Nice, sharp resolution, and look at the color:

RAW:


CR SAMPLE VIDEO:


Clearly, the sample video, used to lure us in, is WORTH THE MONEY... but what we get instead is...

EPISODE 92:


Shinji, this isn't funny anymore. We either get the quality we paid for in the sample, or we get a refund. There is no middle ground.
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Posted 1/15/09
Dakaran : Give them time to solve this. Not one week , but 4-8 weeks. If there is a new service with streaming you know there will be starting problems.
If Crunchyroll cannot fix these problems in 2 months, than yes it is not very good.

I personally give them a year to fix everything. Including regional problems and getting One Piece and Bleach
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Posted 1/15/09 , edited 1/15/09
4-8 weeks? Erm okay Moneyback and i'm off to torrents then, poke me when it'l be fixed, kktnx.

1-2 weeks sounds way more acceptable.
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Posted 1/15/09
Slow loading, and quality is lower then the last episode.
This is an all new system im sure there has to be a ton of new problems to deal with.
But keep up the good work shinji im sure it'll all work out in the end ^^
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Posted 1/15/09
Well I didn't have any issues and i must say that the subs are much better plus thanks alot guys for allowing the stream to load, before it wasn't preloading and it was a pain to watch thanks for all the hard work,

even if theres small issues it still feels good to have supported the main producers in some way
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Posted 1/15/09

Qoureno wrote:

91th was great. I can't wait for 92th...


read manga its 100+ episode ahead
so its like i know what gonna happen in naruto in the whole year episodes
so conclusion: I can stop watching naruto for this year and in the end of the year i can watch them all together
I would have more fun than watching 1 episode then wait
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